Leeds Rumours Archive September 21 2012

21 Sep 2012 21:11:42
I posted on here on Monday, saying takeover to be done by Forrest game.

This still look likely and an announcement could be made at the game tomorrow.

Crowd of around 23k expected

-MS

You really are a p+$$ taker with a post like that less than 18 hrs before next match

How many times do we here this?

More like 17,000

Bet it doesn't happen today

Haha nice 1 -MS bates(that is you isn't it?)you nearly had us all there...Doh!
Andrew m

25k at the Notts Forest match ? Dreaming...... Scrape over 19k more likely. Pity but many have lost the enthusiasm to attend. BIG NEWS... son just text me.. ANNOUNCEMENT ON YORKSHIRE RADIO IN 2 MINS ABOUT INVESTMENT Time now 1259 SAT

21 Sep 2012 18:06:52
All this who owns what...ken master bates basically owns all of Leeds. Leeds city holdings is owned by ken master bates shaun Harvey and some random woman's name.As is correct LCR ltd 28% and FSF the rest. So unless the old scrotum is throwing it all into the pot,this 50% thing is all abit ...?? If you know what I mean...
Andrew m
ps and that gentlemen is what you call a fact!!:-D

Random woman is Yvonne Allen, one of our club directors

Crmd

Ok I looked it up at companies house when all this started m8. Couldn't remember her name so that's why I just said random. And I also made a spelling mistake writing LCR ltd it should of been LCH ltd. But the rest is right tho. Its gotta make ya laugh really(better than crying) how what I wrote in my post about who owns what. Its just so tangled and messed up its beyond belief really. Yes Bates Out! Time for a change completely but that's only my opinion.
Andrew m

Its what ive always believed. This notion that ER and TA is owned by an outside concern was always cobblers. Everything Bates does is shrouded in deceit with the sole purpose of ripping off both the tax-payer and lufc fans. He hates everything to do with leeds, always has, always will. If anyone needs a reminder consider the following quote;
"I shall not rest until Leeds United are kicked out of the football league. There fans are the of the Earth, absolute animals and a disgrace. I will do everything in my power to make this happen".
Says all it needs to.

Not a penny more bates until you have f**ked off you chelsea barsteward

LLHB MOT

Keep the pressure on.

21 Sep 2012 16:21:53
Neil warnock plz try and sign max gradel on loan he want
To return and he his better then diouf

We cannot afford anyone of any quality yet until the t.o is done.
bates will not give his own money to fund any more players, especially when he's meant to be getting investment from the consortium(s).

Completely different to diouf and about 7 years younger but 'better'...... im not so sure. i feel sorry for diouf because he is surrounded by no quality at all now ross mac is out, he needs better players to link up with,no one in our squad is on the same level as him.
Ltkk

Gradel will always be wlcome back but low shot about Diouf.He has been good in a so far difficult time

Different type of player to Dioff, would play well to together with Gradel and Bechford upfront. Should happen within 10days

We need as much quality as possible . both of them would be good ! Gradel is quicker but diouf has more skill and vision . he's actually better than I thought he was

Gradel and Diouf in the same team with Beckford and a new centre half with pace! Yes please Santa!

I can not believe someone said diouf is better than gradel? wtf lol what planet are you on? someone said diouf is on another level to the rest at leeds? omg get ya head tested. becchio, mccormack, austin, pearce, kenny are all on a higher level than diouf. diouf would then come next in the list.

Agree with everything about dioff
gradel is too greedy a type of player in my opp

Diouf has actually done a stellar job for us since he joined under the circumstances. Would i like gradel back? of course but different to diouf. diouf has the ability to play off of becchio somewhat plus i reckon gradel defo won't happen. go back in for tempelton as soon as deal done as well

We cant afford anyone at all so max gradel is well out of the picture. we probably can't even afford to bring back rogers from his loan spell we are that poor at the moment

Yeah not sure if you have been watching us mate but diouf has been decent so please stop stating things you really dont have a clue about. gradel chose a shi=y french team over us. what is wrong with some people

21 Sep 2012 12:40:40
I know these are hard times for us Leeds fans but has RMOTLIFE actually said one positive post on this forum ever? Too many people being way to negative even if positive news comes out they manage to put a doom and gloom spin on it. I hope i speak for many when i say fans like that aren't the fans i remember when i first fell in the love with Leeds. I remember ER used to be addictive, due to the brilliant atmospheres etc, nowadays though its like a f*cking funeral parlour if you want to boycott do it. If you want to go to games do it, but dont go just to whinge and sing bates out for 90 mins do it to get behind your team. I know many fans will give me abuse for this but i don't care i would just like a bit of positivity instead of 'adminstration and relegation' comments that are just ludicrous.

Good call. There are a number of so called Leeds fans who post regularly on this site that have never posted anything positive or constructive, just 'Bates Out' bla bla bla... YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE YA WHINGING PLEBS !!
Rob MOT

Agree - fed up with gloom merchants too! Get behind the team ffs!! jimbo

Nice post fella, as i don't condone or encourage bates out chants or boycotts i can see the reason why people do - however the addition of LUFC the taste the atmosphere the feeling of walking down ER saturday afternoon is too addictive for me to turn away

Woody LUFC

Well said mate, the way i see it is we have been in worse positions in the past, we need to get behind the team and get them fired up, not winge and whine all day, too much negative energy. MOT

The D man

True true!! thing is i wonder after when/if to gets sorted... will they be content? give it 6 months and theyll b moaning about sumtihng els no doubt - more then likely some of these people are the same ones whe deserted the club when we wer relegated and will come flooding back when we get promoted!
KD

Well, I applaud your loyalty. I have been following Leeds since 1966, and I can't think of a worse time. I'm writing this on Friday evening - before the Forest match; of course I'll be hoping against hope that Leeds win, but I don't think they will. Even if we draw, we shall be uncomfortably close to the relegation zone, with a demoralised team from whom all the early-season optimism has evaporated. One major problem we have is that for most other teams, survival in the Championship, having a few good wins, and loking forward to the next recruit who might bring success would be enough - but for us, if we don't get promoted, it's a disaster. I'm sorry to tell you, but the present level of funding will see us down in Division 1 before long.

Well said, damn right about so called Leeds fans spewing negative cr4p. The season has barely got going and WUMS and doom merchants are writing the season off, and shouting for the head of a very very good manager who is doing his best to make a silk purse out of a sows ear! Positive posts supporting the team and manager all the way.

LUFC always

To the last contributor - I agree, Warnock impresses me as he sets about trying to do an impossible job - as you say, "making a silk purse from a sow's ear" - but what you get, in the end, from a sow's ear, is just that - a sow's ear - and that's what we're going to get tomorrow against Forest. Have you all looked at the Championship table? We're not far off the relegation zone, and we have half the team missing! Thebest way to support Warnock is to try to exert pressure on Bates to go.

21 Sep 2012 12:34:49
I'm just going to put it out there. Somma. We need him back, NOW. I've torn my ACL playing footy and was out for 10 months. Somma's been out for 14. He must be close on making a return? {Ed020's Note - i think he's just putting the fitness work in now, should be back soon}

Warnock said he wont even be in full training until november and wont even play a game until december so its likely to be january before we see him

ACL injuries vary enormously in recuperation time from a few months to 18 months depending on numerous factors but unfortunately a striker is never the same after such a massive injury e.g. Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler so don't be too optimistic about his abilities when he does come back
Ali

Its a shame reely he looked a gd lad i just hope he can carry on where he left off... i was so excited when he would be sitting on the bench in a game knowing hed b coming on seen to bag it! :p
KD

Note you had a torn acl. I ruptured my acl and had to have my whole knee rebuilt. I didnt play for two years, but then we dont have the luxury of physios and good recoporation as i went back to work as soon as i could, which obviously wasnt helping the situation. A tear is a lot different to rupture is the point I'm making

Hes a professional footballer . he doesn't just rest all week and turn up for a match or 2 each week , theres so much physical work done in training so come back too early and he could be out another long spell and probably longer . somma will come back just has good as he was if he can get the injury off of his mind ,it usually the mental side of things that makes you play that bit worse as you just dont wand to get taken out and re injured

21 Sep 2012 07:46:35
This time next week. Bates will only own 50% of Leeds United!

-MS

Thats 50% to much .and he now owns 75% so not a great reduction . Bates out completely

I thought he owned 70% of Leeds, if he was to swell half now and half at a later date he will own 35% of Leeds united. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sussex White MOT

Or does he only own 36% along with consortium...and the the other 28% owned by someone else. Then the consortium could buy the other 28% and freeze bates out....more than one way to skin a cat maybe....

Fredh MOT

Well hopefully the new consortium will be able to make life very difficult for Mr Bates. Lets hope they flush him down the toilet with the rest of the terds.

50% of 100% or 50% of 72% which is his current ownership? Either way it needs a change of support towards NW so he can bring in the players he really wants. NW on radio this morning saying if he got the backing he wanted, he would be looking at a better class of player than he has been recently - CTLUFC

That is still 50% too much!

I think bates owns 72% and Leeds city holdings own 28%.
bates owns LCH though.

He own's 72% at mo, if he owned 74% he could do anything he wanted without the other 26% having a say so. Which brings the question, what and who the hell are the 28% doing or saying about all this???

Nobody will invest the sort of money Bates wants unless they take a controlling stake in the company now. Bates can have a "put" option that requires the investors to buy the remainder of his shares when he chooses but he won't have the option to sell to anyone else. Standard legal structure. Jimbo

What are you talking about, open your eyes . hes selling 100% of his share in the club and receiving half of the fee now and been given a job at leeds united and been paid until he leaves at which stage he will receive the other half which is basically the buyers way of saying if you want the full lot take it and fu*k off .