Leeds Rumours Archive August 26 2011

 

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26 Aug 2011 23:03:20
im actully starting to thinkthat cuddly kens got a master plan to take us up {Ed025's Note - really?

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Ken bates only has one ambition and that is to make as much money as he can without spending any. He is happy to buy players on the cheap or get them in on a freebie. If they start to show any quality and other clubs start to show an interest he starts seeing pound signs. He has no real ambition and whilst he remains in charge he will continue to look at corporate entertaining as this is a way to bring in revenue that will continue to line his pocket. He is not interested in investing in quality players to help the club drive on to achieve our ambition to be back up where we belong. WE are a premiership club with a division 2 chairman and whilst he remains to hold the purse strings we are not going to achieve the ambition that we all want and deserve. LUFC until I DIE. we love Leeds. {Ed025's Note - you talk a lot of sense...leeds are a massive club..but will find it difficult to achieve their potential, while bates is in charge..

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Would this be the Master Bates plan? There is no plan Emphasis is on ensuring no financial irresponsibility, going at his pace (back in Prem 2022) and buying many freebies along the way. Can you even remember the last million pound purchase?

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Why does everyone keep going on about us not spending millions... So what, its good that we dont... Everyone keeps saying Bates is tight, milking club etc, but forget that he let Blackwell spend, and were only just getting over his dross now.....

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The only master stroke m@ster bates ever pulled off was at bed time.

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Yes Ken Bates does want to make as much money as possible but the best way he can do that is by getting LUFC back into the PL and selling it for millions more than it has cost him to reach there. IMO he will only spend what is necessary to do that and he doesn't need to do what Leicester and Ipswich are doing to do that
Look at some players brought into the first team in recent years : Howson, Lees and White - academy players - free. Nunez - free. Becchio - free. Clayton - cheap. Gradel - cheap. Snodgrass - cheap. All quality cheap or free championship players.

He will work with SG to get us up and then sell us on. That's fine by me.

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When these new rules come into play you will be kissing bates arse he not stupid.

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Not being funny but it grips me when people say leeds need to be in the premiership were we belong, at the moment we belong in the championship and have no given right to be in the premier league, we took a gamble with ridsdale, lived the dream for afew years then went into oblivion, that was our own faults for putting him there, but no team has a divine right to be in the premiership, i'm not a fan of bates but atleast he's keeping the club afloat, ok wouldn't mind seeing a new face hear and there but we have a decent squad and have made progress over the last few years

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26 Aug 2011 20:15:16
Grayson says that Gradel should stay and fill his ambition to play in the prem with Leeds ,what with Bates in charge your joking he would have to give Grayson money and I dont think that will ever happen .

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Look at the job hes done so far with no money,not too shabby is it,couple more signings and we wont be far away this year,with a full team out were more than a match for anyone,sort the defence out and were on the up.

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Still needs 1 or 2 million spending not much for the cash you can get for going up,and for that matter coming back down ,win win all round really.

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26 Aug 2011 18:07:41
Mike Grella has gone to Brentford fact Gj

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Badly treated was Grella but extra cash to spend on the Fin who will be much better. Want to see us get an extra 2 players in so we have a really strong bench.

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Have already ranted about Grella. His attitude stinks, along with Alex Bruce's. Source - Academy Player who trained with them before anyone says the kids dont train with the first team

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26 Aug 2011 16:16:48
Good luck to Grella at Brentford they have signed a decent player..MOT

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26 Aug 2011 18:54:14
Looks like Santa Cruz is off to Real Betis in Spain, there is another transfer target to be ticked off the list.
Source : SSN

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We don't need him we'll have becchio back soon according to mr bates

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Official: Leeds Utd FC offered Mr Cruz favourable salary to join the club for one season, 3,000 per week and free entry to Mr Bates hotel and shopping empire once it is completed in 2035. The club stated that they would pay for a nights B&B at Sadie's Guest House near The Peacock Pub and the club car (Fiat Punto) was available for his own use. Leeds Utd feel rather upset that these excellent terms and conditions do not appear to have been what Mr Cruz was looking for. The good news is that this means the club save 3,000 per week to be invested (like all the other money) into the hotel and shops.

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He would of been a decent signing though, look at the standard of football between him and other Championship strikers. He would of been one of the best strikers in the league if he was on form like he was at Blackburn. He would also get a lot of goals.

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We were never in for Santa cruz he just used our club name to get himself noticed like all the other agents and players out there.

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He was NEVER a target It was only because has dad mentioned Leeds in an interview that he even got linked with Leeds

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Oh thats a shame,hell go there and not score any goals,his record is piss poor,hes no better than what weve already got.

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So there's Spanish La Liga clubs in for him, English Premier League clubs but he'd drop eveything top play for Leeds in the second division?

Some of you lot need your bumps feeling, the only people that made Santa Cruz a target were a few deluded Leeds fans who are now p*ssed off because he's gone somewhere else even though there was never going to be a chance of him signing for Leeds in any lifetime

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When did anyone at LUFC say he was a target??

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Why do we need him give mccormack a chance the lads full of goals.

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Ha ha, did anyone actually think that was gonna happen? Keogh looks impressive with a similar work rate to Becchio which is what we need & McCormack's gonna get a decent goal tally this season - Roque Santa Who? MOT

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Leeds have no ambition and are heading back to league one.

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26 Aug 2011 17:54:04
Mike Grella as joined Brentford, on emergency loan.His contract will be terminated within the next week.

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26 Aug 2011 17:52:51
LEEDS not getting Santa Cruize hes off to spain sorry lads Gj

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I said it was a publicity stunt to get him noticed.

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Who cares ... Not me ... I am happy what we have

Some of the players we got from PL have been cr4p anyway...

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26 Aug 2011 12:43:37
just seen sg's interview, nothng new, happy with squad but said he wants a couple more in before window shuts for competition, he is also happy that we have kept hold of our best players, no bids have come in for gradel apart from west ham so dont believe the forest fans who r posting on ere

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26 Aug 2011 12:23:08
where on official site or skysports does it say gradel is going anywhere??

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Go to the Leeds United page in the Football section...

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It says sochaux have bid and forest are keen but it doesnt say he is going at all. numerous teams have been interested all summer, still dont mean he is going.

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26 Aug 2011 11:18:45
SG has confirmed that Nunez is to start against Ipswich on Saturday.

I would imagine Gradel or Howson would be set to the bench - he has said that 'a player' will be dissapointed but his performances have merited a starting place.

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With Brown out injured I dont see why nunez cannot play just behind McCormack, with Howson and Clayton in the centre, Gradel and Snoddy onthe wings. so guessing he is referring to one of the centre backs, I'd say best line up R to L is
Lonergan, lees, Kisnorbo, O'Dea, White, Snoddy, Clayton, Howson, Gradel, Nunez, McCormack. guessing the player disappointed is O'Brien

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No keogh will miss out you tube. obrien did not even play against west ham.

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To above there are two problems though which are we need a captain to go out on the day and if I were sg I'd be scared to separate keogh and McCormack because they have done really well so far

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With the recent success of playing McCormack and Keough up front then why would he go back to one up front? My guess Gradel would be left out if Nunez is starting. This would probably then lead to speculation of Max being unhappy at being dropped etc. etc and he is off to West Ham. Who would want to be a manager

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Surely the disappointed player there would be keogh

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If this is true I'd expect McCormack to miss out, i.e. be sub. Keogh has shown he holds the ball up. Apart from being a useful quality generally, this will make a great foil for Nunez who will be even more lethal than normal. Not fair on McCormack as done nothing wrong but the only other 5 candidates are undroppable. SG loves Snods who is returning to a bit of form, you can't drop Gradel especially right now and try dropping the captain or Clayton right now. If you drop Keogh for Nunez you lose the essence of the 4-4-2 formation which is for one guy to win headers, hold ball up and earn free kicks. There'll be nothing left of Ramon after 90 minutes if SG asks him to do that and we already know that isn't McCormack's game. Personally, I'd still keep Nunez on the bench. He can't be very nice to play against with half an hour of the game to go.

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Keogh has been the catalyst to us finding some form, his partnership with McCormack looks like it's just starting to flourish, it would be madness to drop him, but like someone said who'd be a manager, personally I'd leave Gradel out and give Nunez a chance to shine.

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The disappointed player will be Nunez, and rightly so as he needs to offer more. Grayson has said nowhere that Nunez will start ahead of Gradel.

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Nunez wont start cnt see him dropping gradel one of the best wingers in the championship y would he go 1 up front if we play 2 up against west sham and its been workin 4 us

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It could be howson, a straight swap and in fairness he has shone the least so far this season. It's a big call but don't think sg would be afraid to drop the captain.

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26 Aug 2011 11:16:17
Forest have just bid 5 MILLION for gradel instead of going for nicky maynard, they look set to offer him 25k a week, i no forest leicester and west ham have a better chance of promotion but i would of thought he would wait for a prem team to come in end of the season, having said that, why would he want to go to a wigan or a swansea figning relegation, and socahux are a poor side. Why cant we just offer him big wages to stay, ?

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Forest dont have that money hence why billy davies clashed with the board on so many occasions last year they are trimming the wage bill of big players like earnshaw mcckenna and adebola because they cant afford them

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Billy didnt have the money mate because forest owner was selling his haulage company for 365 million now he sold it he brought steveie mac who has had 20 million available to him to date he has only spent 1.4mill on miller and 1.8 on derbyshire, greening was 800k. so yes we do have 5 million, add another 300 million to that forest can afford any player just wages are issues with the new FFP rule coming in next year. having said that paying ishmael miller 22k a week means forest have to get promoted they in same boat as leicester.

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Forest have as much money available to them as they want mate, it states that on bbc. im a leicester fan and appaently there owner sold one of his compnays giving there manager a big pot just wages are issues for them like all of us with the ffp rules coming in next year. all there players that left were players that wouldnt get a game for them

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Forest Leicester and west ham have money mate all super rich owners hence why they buy quliaty and get rid of there poor players e.g adebola leeds now a selling club hence why the big 3 after gradel

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Forest trimming nothing got rid of there poor players brought in prem quality - miller,derbyshire,reid,greening - still looking to bring in 3 more, and have 10 million left to spend from mr doughertys 300 million pot

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Laughale rumour. If true I'd drive him there myself. 5miilion yum yum.

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26 Aug 2011 11:13:54
West HAM. Forest and leicester all intrested in signing him so far west ham been turned down by gradel himself because of the poor wages been offered. Forest an Sochaux have both bid 5 MILLION but forest and leicester both prepeared to pay up to 25k a week. Whihc could turn his head as both look set to get promoted.

Townsend set to complete loan deal to forest and apparently we are now after ryan fredericks who i think looks a better player.

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Are you just saying this because you watched spurs last night??
That Carrole looked a good prospect though

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Ah yet another person who watched a young lad have 1 decent game(fredricks) and now decideds to completely make up a story linking him with leeds

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Federicks far to good for leeds he is staying with tottenham,

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How do Leicester and forest look set for promotion they have had shocking starts, Leicester have tried to buy the league and have had crap results and forest have had somat daft like 2 shots on target this season.

Stop posting s**t rumours.

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26 Aug 2011 10:09:01
Leeds playing against Ipswich this Saturday.Hope
fully Simon stick to 4-4-2. Nunez should start this
time.This guy on fine form.Just heard Leeds linkto
the African CB Magnus.Sign him on. He should
provide the height Leeds lacking in defence.Hear
he's good.Also Leeds might give a contract to
Forsell.Hopefully not.Prefer Santa Cruz.Much
better player and all round experienced striker
than Forsell.Knowing KB he might sign Forsell inso
Santa Cruz.Aidy White might be the answer to
Leeds LB problem.Has pace,only thing he needs
time to adjust to LB. Simon should organise his
defence like this:Magnus with Kisnorbo in CB,
Lees in RB and Lichaj as LB.Simon should sign
Matt Kilgallon for cover in our defensive dept.
Wes Hollahan brought in to beef up the midfield.
Leeds will be much stronger with this players if
Simon can bring them in. Chances of promotion
to PREMIER LEAGUE much better. Leeds fan.

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Oh and while he's at it what about Gary Cahill, Shaun Wright-Phillips and Scott Parker. Do you also believe in Father Christmas and the pixies at the bottom of the garden? Fool.

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Totally agree The original post is utter tosh, whoever put it up, are you 8 or just a bit mental? Whatever deals larry does will be done on the quiet and neither me you or some person down the Scarborough taps knows what's doing, and uncle ken won't spend so probably nothing doing

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26 Aug 2011 09:08:32
Do you know what ? I think Old Ken & Larry know what they are doing :o)
Whether you like KB or not, he has a billion years experience in his field

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You no what mate,i totally agree with you i bet you wasent expecting that reply was ya lol {Ed025's Note - nor was i...thanks ken..

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He likes hotels and yachts more than football but were does he think he can take his cash when he snuffs it ,a younger Ken would be worrying hope he hasnt got kids as tight as him

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