Leeds Rumours Archive March 28 2013

 

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28 Mar 2013 21:00:32
Warnocks says some really good managers will be available in the summer, who and if they're so good why are they becoming available?

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Just because someone has been sacked doesn't mean therre not good, there previous club could have been better than leeds?

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Best thing to do is not listen to anything that comes out of NW mouth. The guy is simply protecting his own reputation. Sad really as I was very optimistic at the appointment 18 months ago. Still, you win some, you lose some. MOT.

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Its Warnock - he's talking about himself! bob_nohope

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Why is anyone actually listening to Warnock any way?

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Clubs are by definition more willing to agree to let ambitious managers -and players- depart in the close season, when there is the time to recruit adequate replacements. Poyet is the man! Chapel A

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29 Mar 2013 04:44:45
Why should we listen to Warnock? because he's been in the game over 40 years and knows more about football than you or me ever will that's why, He has been very successful and is well respected ( if not loved ) in the game. Ex players that have done well rave about him. He's not my cup of tea, never wanted him, but nobody can say he dosn't know the game inside out. He lost it here at Elland Road, but under very trying circumstances. My big gripe with him was the style of football we played and not being able to sign that little bit of extra class that all teams need to get out of this league, maybe that wasn't his fault we will never know.
But it must be better for the new board to take his advice than just ignoring it and blundering on and signing the wrong guy for our great club, as they are very inexperienced. I am old enough to remember the board not taking Don Revies advice of Jonny Giles / Big Jack and they brought in that disaster Clough who really did nearly ruin us.
Just my opinion of course but we need all the help and advice going at the moment.

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29 Mar 2013 05:22:37
There's all sorts of reasons a manager can suddenly become available like they asked for more money and didn't get any and get sacked for arguing.
There contract run out and decided they want a new challenge.
Got sacked because there club feels there's someone better.

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Oh so warnock is now mystic meg is he and can see fallouts or disagreements in advance; any good nanager whos contract was running down woud already have been linked, he also said yeaterday that we wouldn't pay some of the compensation figures being mentioned,. So give me some names, which quality managers?

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29 Mar 2013 11:50:23
Managers do talk to each other, they probably know much more than the papers and us, so its quite probable Warnock knows of what other managers are going to do before it becomes public.

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Because not all good managers have great seasons. Look at Arsene Wenger. Cleary a good manager but had a rubbish few seasons.

Warnock as well. His obviously a good manager. But again. Never got full backing from the board which resulted in a poor season.


Try using your head because random words just come out which both lack substance and meaning.

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Expect Warnock's recommendations will all, by sheer coincidence, have the same agent as him. One last backhander to add to the burgeoning retirement pot he's ripped from the faithful.

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So give some names of the good managers we won't cost a lot, will come to Leeds and haven't been mentioned or are not available now.

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There are always good managers available but the fact is we won't be paying top rate so don't get your expectations up. David Moyes at Everton will be available but I can't see him being attracted to Leeds or Leeds being able to finance his salary. let's be realistic in our expectations. Sturrocks available : (

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Personally I would like to keep warnock at club for 1 more season but moved upstairs with gary mac back as manager. the only players we have signed of note imo were gary mac signings eg becchio snodgrass. without these signingswe would probably be still in 3rd div. I feel if we had kept gary mac as manager instead of going down the road of panic sacking like so many clubs do we would be back in prem by now. i'm not saying becchio and snodgrass are prem players but mac was building a team around his signings to get there. i'm not sure if mac could work in harness with warnock but I believe with macs eye for talent and warnocks knowhow it could be the new clough and taylor. don't get me wrong I hated clough and taylor but if these two could get things moving i'm all for it. the other option i'd go for is joe jordan with gary mac. mot.

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So no one ha any names

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Martin oneill to be new leeds manager in summer

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Alan curbishley look no further

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28 mar 2013 07:53:44
gfh have sold a 10 per cent stake in the club to a foreign investor! announcement due later. kea

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A rumour that is actually true! things are looking up

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Unfortunately selling 10% of a business worth 50 million only gives you 5 million pounds. Not enough I'm affraid.

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Not enough? we got Gradel for 150,000 and Snodgrass for a similar sort of fee Beckford cost even less I believe, would you not take 3 players like that?

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Just because they only bought 10% doesn't mean they have no dosh.

GFH hold however much they hold, it is a their discretion what % they offload. Plus the dud buying 10% might not want anymore than 10% doesn't mean has no dosh

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Also, having numerous investors is rumoured to be a potential way around FFP rules.

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28 Mar 2013 22:54:27
If a company buys 10% why would they invest in players that potentially invest more money? If you invest you expect a return not for it to cost you more than you put in!

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Just because they invest and buy 10% doesn't mean they will not invest more in players (they may not but we don't know)
It is in there long term interest to invest to make the team better, get promotion, increase revenue through ticket and shirt sales and ultimately make the business worth money, so they decide to sell, they make much better returns, but also money along the way.
It's simple business
Rob Harrogate White

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I wish GFH would clarify where the investment funds will be spent / invested. I think, like Ken use to do, the money has gone to GFH to recover the amount spent on acquiring LUFC. For sure it not wages, transfer funds / kitty. Plus, I don't think it will be to pay off debts. We didn't have any as we were surviving under our means. The reduction of ticket prices and now attendances means GFH have to recover some how. The clue is in the title of GFH! They make money by investments. At the initial press conference, Sami suggested their business model wasn't based on LUFC being in the premier league. Why is that? Because they can make sufficient returns as is with minimium more investment. Not looking good I'm afraid for us fans.

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Folk, sorry to have to point out but, 10% of Leeds holding company is revenue for GFH, not revenue for Leeds United.
This investment in Leeds Unted doesn't mean any of that money will be invested back by GFH in the club. Just means that we've got someone else on board that may be willing to put some money in for transfers.
That said; GFH sells 10% of Leeds and puts that money back in as an investment, immmediately shows on the balance sheet as cash, which increases the value of Leeds. Hence, a valuation of Leeds United at 7 million more than they paid for it last year. A few more 10% sales like that and our club is looking at a tidy pot to spend on development.
Plus we would have a few fairly deep-pocketed investment angels looking over GFH shoulder and sharing the risk. That gives GFH the opportunity to take a few expensive punts on perceived quality players. Really hoping that this is what's going on. Have had faith in GFH from the start and still think they're doing the right thing. I'm often right about these things.

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Who says 10% of Leeds Holdings is worth £5m? it would be basic business to sell it for more would it not?

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27 Mar 2013 23:18:57
Strong indication of takeover part 2 becoming a reality with Steve Parkin and an unnamed "very very wealthy" Saudi buying 51% share in LUFC. ( oh no not another so called very very rich Arab) This posted on NewsNow LUFC.

LUFC Always MOT

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Someone (a foreign investor) has bought 10% today.

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28 Mar 2013 08:54:57
Word is GFH to announce sale of 10% shares to their 1st strategic investor today. (Thanks Ken from Monaco!). with more similiar deals to follow in the coming weeks / months.

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What a load of tosh Pearson still denying any interestin LUFC and yet another mystery buyer I think I can smell bovine excrement!

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OS gfh have sold 10% to international investment bank based in bahrain with aabed al-zeera joining the board (comments welcome
please)

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Expect same pessimism from Leeds fans?

Could be good for us, need to believe

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I actually said to my colleague at work how some of our fans do my head in. My argument for this was now we have sold 10% I bet you get all the doom and gloom merchants saying its them selling back to Ken despite them saying they want investment from day one. Thank you Nolansonline, you proved my point for me.

I used to think we had the best fans in the world. how wrong I was all these conspiracy theories they named a bank as selling it in the official statement Ken doesn't own a bahrain based bank mate.

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Why would Ken want to buy 10% back?

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I just wish Bates would f**k off out of our club then we wouldn't get this crap.

He's had his pound of flesh.

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28 Mar 2013 00:06:46
I've said it before but Owen Coyle is the only manager willing to come to Leeds at the mo hope I'm wrong my choice would be poyet but without investment no half decent manager with any ambition will touch us

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I;ll take Coyle got promotion out off this league what's this with Poyet was quick enough to jump ship before and has spent a lot off brass at Brighton and done nothing

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Poyet was Assistant Manager of a League One club who was offered the chance to be Assistant Manager of a Premiership team knocking on the door of European football.
The fuss about him is that he is tactically astute, extremely good at motivating players and a genuine, honest guy.
He got a bunch of no-marks playing like winners and when he left the 'manager' whom he was supposed to be assisting was quickly exposed, results predictably tanked and we spent longer in League One.
Poyet would do well anywhere because he knows how to get the best out of players and create teams that complement the strengths of what he has available while covering the gaps left by what they lack. I would love to see him get the Leeds job but, sadly I think we would have to be Premier League already for that to happen.

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Oh come on! We're a stable championship club with a good history of bringing through youth players. We've got a decent (Though maybe not brilliant) squad.

Any half decent manager wants a challenge, not an easy ride. Otherwise, what's the point?

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