Leeds Rumours Archive August 03 2011

 

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03 Aug 2011 22:51:58
Calm down folks. We have NOT signed O'Dea yet. It'a due to be finalised tomorrow, and things can turn around at the drop of a hat. I'd wait until the official site announces it before you start celebrating and loaning out fringe players.

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I think you could not have signed a more aptly named player odea odea odear

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Celebrating are u serious. This must be a wind up post. Stop it right now

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03 Aug 2011 22:29:37
Wouldn't Mind John Carew Coming To Leeds. Looks Most Likely He Is Heading To West Ham.

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03 Aug 2011 22:28:19
Really Want Lewis McGugan To Come To Leeds Also Max Gradel Hopefully To Be Offered A New Contract, For Him To Sign. Need A Good Loan Striker And Also Some Decent, Goal Preventing Defenders

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Mcgugan you think we have enough money to buy one of our promotion rivals top performers? Hmmmm.......

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03 Aug 2011 22:22:06
Before the window closes i thing we need a striker on loan and a LB can o'dea play there we dont need a CM clayton can do it he's looked good pre-season .MOT

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Even if Clayton does start we still need another CM as cover as we play with 3 across midfield and only have 4 in the squad including Nunez who is often away on international duty

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03 Aug 2011 22:19:34
Just looked at sky sports page at 15 mins past ten and it says that we hope to sign Darren O'Dea tomorrow Thursday on loan so the deal has not been completed yet, nothing on the os either, it also states on news now web site that we are on the verge on signing Montgomery as Sheff Utd have dropped there price to be able to get him off the wage bill, if that is true both players, if fit, will be available to play against Southampton on Saturday.

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03 Aug 2011 22:18:35
Montgomery not coming in, O'Dea is very average to come in at LB... get out of your heads Carew deal and cant agree fee for Clinghan thats before we offer him 9k a week

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03 Aug 2011 21:25:27
We have signed someone a young talented defender something to be happy for well done grayson keep it up lad, get that carew in...Harry MOT

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03 Aug 2011 22:02:23
i reckon carew is off to west ham

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And thank god for that, he is only in it for the money and is injury proned

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03 Aug 2011 22:02:22
My guess is that Bruce or bromby will head to sheff united as part of Montgomery deal now we have signed O'Dea

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This is the most sensible rummour posted in the last month.

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03 Aug 2011 21:35:37
Can't believe the amount of crap people have been giving SG on here today and then we sign someone and the worlds all good again MOT

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03 Aug 2011 21:34:24
O'dea not bad, why no deal for Max though, C'mon Leeds sort it out, we don't want another Beckford on our hands, leaving on a free.

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If he gets us promoted like beckford wont matter if he leaves.

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Thats great, lets not bother giving our best players contracts when running out, just hope we get promoted, if by some miracle we don't get promoted, they will leave for free, and we'll go down not up.

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I read that contract negotians start in august once pre-season is over.show some patience

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03 Aug 2011 21:31:24
why is mendy not sign yet

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03 Aug 2011 20:50:17
Darren o'dea yeesss Leeds not a bad defender at all CB/LB MOT

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03 Aug 2011 20:49:04
the premier league left back leeds are trying to sign on loan is Armand Traore from Arsenal, could be done before Friday

Nick Montgomery and Eric Lichaj(loan) to complete Leeds transfer dealing this summer

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Traore would be quality signing. Where did you get the info from?

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Need a quality defender, premiership experience with a top team, would be a good signing. Whats happening with Mendy

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Mendy isn't fit yet which bodes well as he's looked good in preseason even without that fitness but we've already got a lot of wingers.

I'd need a change of pants if we managed to sign Traore

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Traore would be a very useful addition, wether on a 6 month loan or season loan. I cant see this rumour having any truth in it, however we have had a very good relationship with the gunners when it has come to loaning players in the past, so you never know.

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03 Aug 2011 20:40:52
just signed darren o'dea from celtic on 1 year loan on ssn now, also looking favourites to sign carew

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1 report says that he has signed & the other says that he's set to sign. Both SSN

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Carew? absolute result if that goes through. although is that admitting the seriousness of Luciano's injury

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If you read the Carew article it states west ham or Birmingham favourites to sign him we aren't even mentioned in the article Bit of brain matter to be used before posting guys.

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Where does it say we're favourites to sign Carew?

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Carew... Really ? Result if it happens.. Uncle Kens favourite price too.

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03 Aug 2011 20:39:22
Sky reporting Leeds just signed O'Dea from Celtic on seasons loan. Is he any good?

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I think he will be ok.He played for Ipswich better than bruce and bromby

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Yes Im irish so ive seen him play for the republic
Hes good enough for the celtic 1st team
Dont know why they have let him go {Ed007's Note - I am the main Celtic editor and ST holder etc. O'Dea is a great player IMO, I would rather CFC had kept him and got rid of Majstorovic.}

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Not as good as paddy and andy about the same level as bruce and bromby if you rate them.

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Not as gud as paddy and andy? are you aving a laugh mate o dea is quality im a celtic supporter aswell as the leeds and watch them often and hes very good player and yes i no paddy good footballer but to but that other ejit in the sentence hes better than o dea not on ur nelly i rate bromby and bruce better and thats saying something.................

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03 Aug 2011 20:38:01
Celtic's Darren O'Sea signed on season-long loan - SSN {Ed007's Note - Has it went through? I heard a murmur about it but didn't want to face all your wrath if it didn't happen.}

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I've just heard this news from my Dad, loan looks complete...

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SSN breaking news, its according to sky sources

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Well its on the yellow ticker on SSN, currently advising as news from "Sky sources"...They are'nt often wrong

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Heard a lot from ipswich fans, he is pretty poor by the sounds of it, back up to paddy and OB i think.

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Wiki says current club leeds as well plus that doesnt mean alot really does it...Harry

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Yeah heard from Reading and Ipswich fans he isn't brilliant. He won't win us promotion but won't get us relegated. Fringe player...

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If your dad said it's gone through then it must have only joking. Will be good signing but who's going to be the two centre backs then? I thought from pre season we would be going with kisnorbo and OB as first choice?

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He can play left back, guessing if what I hear is true the back four will be, Lichaj o'brien kisnorbo o'dea

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03 Aug 2011 20:18:11
Come on leeds Kisnorbo is like a new signing, th e keeper we had made mistakes aswell as johnson and sundays performance was encouraging Brown, Clayton and howson looked good together. Need a left back tho then with injured players coming back we should do ok MOT

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Still feel we would be a bit short mate if we get any long term injurys

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03 Aug 2011 20:03:08
John carew talking to championship club but not saying who it is, hope its us and if so i said we needed someone like this few days ago....Harry mot

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Leeds wanted to sign Carew years ago, can't recall why it happened, but if true he is a strong forward & good target man

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If you read the Carew article it states west ham or Birmingham favourites to sign him we aren't even mentioned in the article Bit of brain matter to be used before posting guys.

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Read the article properly muppet West Ham or Birmingham

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03 Aug 2011 19:55:13
Having watched on Sunday i must say Leeds looked good enough to me. Much improved in midfield, shape and the passiing was spot on, look like we have the ability to play numerous formations.

Anyone know which entrance Snodgrass and McCormack used on Sunday? Wasn't the west.

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03 Aug 2011 19:58:13
Montgomery been mentioned quite heavily on most boards 4 around 500,000 deal done b4 Southampton
Keith LUFC

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03 Aug 2011 19:29:03
Does anybody no why Becchio didnt have the operation at the end of last season
Seems a rather strange

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They thought the best course of action was to let him see if it would heal itself, as it does sometimes. it did but went again after training so they decided to have the operation. MOT

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Presumably an operation costs money, hoping it will heal by itself doesn't.

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Yeah, i think reading between the lines, they sort of went for the easier option of resting him, and seeing if it started healing, rather than go straight in with an intrusive operation, which unfortunately is what they are going to have to do now. Its just our luck that he has to have an operation and somma gets injured aswell, if we didnt have bad luck, we wouldnt have any luck at all. Oh well, gives one or two other lads a chance to make a name for themselves.

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It's more about taking a risk to reduce down time. An operation has a longer recovery period assuming letting it heal by itself and through physiotherapy does the trick. Obviously the risk didn't pay off, and now he has to have surgery. I've heard 3 weeks until he'll be fit aagain.

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03 Aug 2011 19:20:04
I can't see us signing any one, due to bates tightness with money and if i were Grayson i would resign and as a protest i would ask all leeds fans to boycott ER.
Then bates might get the message and sell up.

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If you were Simon Grayson Leeds would have an person for a manager.

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Why don't you start the boycott now? Please do I'm fed up of hearing the same idiotic Bates out chants from the usual dozen who haven't noticed how well Leeds are doing under Bates

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Yeah right, lets all not support our team eh, get a grip, theres plenty of time for signings yet, and as Graysons stated, he aint buying players just for the sake of it, I think Graysons signings will suprise us all, have a bit of faith AND patience, so stick your protest where the sun dont shine.

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Sell to who? The investors/buyers don't seem to be battering bates door down from the outside that's how it looks anyway.

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Bates said in an interview today that we should expect 2-3 more signings. Darren o dea on his way on a season long loan.stop being so negative and support your team

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Close the door on the way out. Can't do with idiots like you. Go support scum coz that is what you are

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Can you start off now by boycotting this site, we are sick and tired of you idiots who moan, moan, moan, moan.....

Bates put his money where his mouth is, and unless you have the money to buy him out I suggest you go do one?

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Sounds like you have boycotted ER for years since you don't know what you are on about

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I dont particularly have a fondness for our current owner, however if past owners had excercised some financial modesty perhaps we wouldnt have been in the situation we found ourselves in. I dont have a problem with the current regime being "tight" and i seriously doubt he will be buying expensive goldfish for his office To rebuild a club from the mess we where in takes time and the progress we have made under Grayson has been fantastic, to take the next step we need to exercise financial caution, not lavish spending on players that we dont need and dont fit in with the club. Would you still have wanted the club to spend money like it was going out of fashion to get us to a champions league semi final If you had known the abyss and years in the wilderness that where to follow?

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Ok, the above post has a point, but we supposedly got 1.2m for kasper.spent 150.000 on lonergan where has the 1m gone, not on transfers?
Where has the 6m we got for Delph gone not on transfers.
I don't know why chairman employ managers
When people like bates makes all the decisions and if you don't do what he says you are out he isn't the only chairman like this, i can name quite a few past and present.

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Can i ask you a question. Are you an actuall Leeds fan ?

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Yes, since the age of fifteen

but can't stand Bates

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03 Aug 2011 19:07:28
Just been listening to KB on LUTV he said Leeds are still in discussions with a number of players (yes I know he would). However he did say that Leeds had unearthed a young French trialist who apparantly looks an absolute gem. Anyone any ideas who he may be?

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Er haven't you been watching the last few friendlies? Big tall winger, good on the ball

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No he said a "young" french player, I think if this is anyone it is the rumoured trialst Rudy Saintini

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Shhhhhhush listen very carefully I shall say this only once ... his name Alex Mendy

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Mendy is 27 so in footballing terms isn't young. Plus he isn't a 'gem' he's just an okay footballer

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Mendy is 27 so in footballing terms isn't young. Plus he isn't a 'gem' he's just an okay footballer

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Saintini is 24 so it ties in well, however he is 5 foot 9 so confused as to what position he plays in midfield, creative?

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03 Aug 2011 18:43:02
My neice is best friends with Snoddy s girlfriend and the rumour coming from there is that Wigan have made an £8.000.000 offer for him. Now we all know that Ken Bates has said that he is not for sale unless somebody came in with a ridiculous offer, but I for one hope that this is just a rumour and Snoddy stays. For my money he is one of the best players in the team and will be hard to replace. Opinions please

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If someone was to bid 8m for Snodgrass, I would snap their hands off. Just think what Ken could do with the rest of the stadium with that. No player is irreplaceable. We could sign a free transfer or a 35yo has been from relegation fodder from PL

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Would, nt sell him at all no matter what the price is

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If 8 mil has been bid then we take it and move on. Snoddy is fantastic but at 8 mil it makes absolute sense to sell and bring someone else in for 3 or 4 mil and use the rest to renew contract of gradel etc..... respect to snoddy whatever he does. if he stays, fantastic. if not all the best and thanks for everything you've done for us.

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I would take £8m for snoddy Just think even if we only get £4m of the money to spend on players, we could sign some actual quality, we could sign Clingan and Lichaj permanent Besides IMO Sam is just as effective as Snoddy, Snoddy seems lazy to me at times

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My opinion is that your talking rubbish, hows that?

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LOLZ My neice said your neice was a liar, but then a mate who once installed new locks at Snoddy's mums house said she said that he said he wasn't going anywhere, so i dunno loser ;-)

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I cant see wigan spending 8mil on a player who has never played in the premiership, they arent exactly a club renowned for splashing the cash.

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KB and SG have said noone else is leaving this transfer window

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03 Aug 2011 17:57:07
The only reason that Grayson keeps a lid on any transfer dealings is so the fan don't hear about all the players the reject us and the low wages we're offering, he also says he's not worried if we don't sign anyone before the window closes cause it's clear that no player of any note is going to sign for us.

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Get to grips with yourself. Thank goodness it's not you making the choices.

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Its not its so the actual targets that Grayson goes for (not the paper talk rumours) don't get snapped up by other clubs. Nobody knows the truth of any signings apart from SG and the board so get behind the team if you are a true LUFC fan

MOT

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Its u that needs to get a grip this guys posting what most fans can see bates will screw this club over until the fan make it clear that we arnt putting up with his bull s**t any more ask urself why johnson and kilkennny left with no effort from club to keep them ill tell u for the reasons this guy as stated

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The orignal poster is bang on you can say get a grip and make up all sorts of reasons but we have missed out on bowyer, andrews, spector, stockdale and Michael Johnson that i can think of off hand. Most of these went to clubs with more money than us so fair enough. But it doesn't change the fact we missed out on them for various "reasons" and nothing ppl can say will change that

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For crying out loud, we don't need too many player changes How many of the top, successful teams go mad in the transfer window and completely overhaul their team? Stability, continuity, team spirit. THESE are what's important. Kisbo's like a new signing, as is Nunez. Clayton is developing nicely, and the trialists will be good solid additions. Teams like Leicester who seem to want to buy a whole new team are gonna struggle. Get a grip, keep the faith

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Get to grips again. Kilkenny and Johnson were legends in their own mind, especially Kilkenny, massive ego, good at whinging, quite a good sub.

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Yeah Kilkenny was so terrible. He was only selected in 39 games last year, despite being away with his national team for a month. Johnson was just as bad. He only played in a pathetic 49 games last year, and is now playing in the Premier League. Useless the pair of them.

Now we can look forward to Nunez and Clayton who were deemed to be so good that they were sent away on loan and not even kept as back up while those charlatans Kilkenny & Johnson were stealing a place in the first team.

If that wasn't great enough we've got Michael Brown who missed half the season and played for a mid table side last year. And at only 34 we know he'll just keep getting better and fitter.

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03 Aug 2011 16:25:24
Why do u think everybody is having a go it's because we don't like the policies that are working against us and a owner that should b replaced
Keith LUFC

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Well said mate, We pay our money we expect a little bit of truth in return.

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May I suggest that if you aren't happy, that you actually put up the money to buy Ken Bates out then?

Like that's going to happen?

Put up or shut up, and stop whinging on about the same old rubbish......

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Well said keith, bates out nothing but a conman dont give a s**t about lufc only the money hes taking from the club time 2 go bates

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I agree. if you don't like it then buy the club yourself

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Go away Keith, how come all you Bates haters (about 1% of Leeds fans) all come out in force at this time of night. Your drivel turns my stomach, please boycott the club

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03 Aug 2011 15:25:57
All the reports of us trying to get players and them rejecting us etc comes out in the media. I for one, other than looking on the OS, dont believe the media Press hates Leeds like everyone else, even the YEP cant help slating our beloved club at every opportunity and now press and media are causing unrest between us fans Get a grip everyone and just take a deep breath and support the club

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Nobody hates us anymore. They just laugh at us.

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As long as it's not the League trying to deduct even more points from us (I'm sure they will think of a way..lol) then I don't care who hates us, or who laughs at us?

He who laughs last, as they say....

... at least we aren't likely to go bankrupt, unlike some I could mention?

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No, they don't laugh at us. Everybody laughs at your kind of paranoia.

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No everyone laughs at deluded fools who think all is ok with the club.

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03 Aug 2011 15:24:43
Even if we do surprisingly sign a few players before Sat i dont think at this late stage that they would play against Southampton, Therefore i think we should all get behind Grayson and the team, i am sure at the end of 90mins on Sat Simon will have a good idea what is needed to strengthen the squad.

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I would hope sfter 6 friendlies he knows what's needed not after 90 mins sat

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You can hope as much as you like it won't change Saturday's team selection.

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Great post, perfect sense, too much
negativity on here,

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After pre-season training and at least 6 friendlies, he should know where we need to strengthen not after 90 minutes of our first league game
If you look at our results since January, we all kinow where we are weak, but we have not strenghtened in those areas at all, why not ??

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Agreed The fans know what is required now never mind till after Saturday.

Prediction: after the match Eddie Gray will say " You now, we started , you know, slowly you know, you know and never got a grip you know of midfield you know.

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"Great post, perfect sense, too much
negativity on here, "

Well said, ain't it funny how they all know best.

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03 Aug 2011 15:22:49
Given leeds current lack of ambition you would have to think gradel would be mad to sign a new contract regardless of the terms. Come on Ken show some ambition ffs. You dont have to spend millions to strengthen the needed area's. Don't our club have any decent scouts?

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Our club obviously DO have decent scouts, which is why we discovered the likes of Beckford, Bechio, Nunez, Somma, etc,

More of the same old crap isn't it?

If you don't want to support Leeds, we don't need or want you, go do one....

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Becchio nunez and somma all came on trail mate nothing to do with scouts they were free so we were in for them. Beckford was scoring and unreal amount of goals in non league football it wouldn't take much to spot him. F**k you there are many unhappy supporters if you dont like it do one.

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I dont know about anyone else but im s**t scared of having Ben parker as left back

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03 Aug 2011 14:15:56
Leeds will sign Mendy and Bodor today after their trials. Osbourne will be given the rest of the week to prove fitness.

Other trialist Rudy Saintini will sign

Nick Montgomery will sign for £400k

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Rite I'm gonna disagree hopefully bates will see it an decide if the fan dont want it he'll do it

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Mendy will sign but I doubt bodor will. As for the other trialist rudy? Didn't know he was on trial. Any info on him?

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Rudy saninti? Do you mean jlloyd Samuel? What's happening With him? Tom MOT

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Samuel is now on trial with west ham.played for them last Saturday

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03 Aug 2011 14:05:45
Well Well Well... Max Gradel hasn't signed a new contract because he wasn't offered one. Were have we heard that before recently?. Oh thats right kasper said he wasn't offered one, ppl didn't believe him cos the club said he was offered one. Kasper said he was 100% committed to getting leeds utd into the prem. The club backtracked and said he is being sold because he wasn't good enough. Fans started posting rubbish about nobody at the club liking him etc. Max has also said he loves leeds and wants to get them in the prem. When will the bates lovers learn bates is destroying our club(I dont know why thats just whats happening). Why are our best players not having their contracts extended. Why is anyone with ambition at the club being sold or allowed to leave? All is not right at our club a blindman can see that but fans with rose coloured specks can't.

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We should not forget that if we sell Max we will probably be able to get even bigger flatscreens in the new executive boxes..

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Im not a Bates lover but FACT is he saved the club and as far as im concerned i will always respect the bloke for it.

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To the guy saying he saved our club here is a piece of a statement from QPR fans. Its not about leeds but I think its apt.

"Finally to the owners that saved our club. I saved a cat once, I don t walk around kicking it, ****ing on it and blowing in it s ears before reminding it that it wouldn t be alive if it weren t for me. I leave the cat alone with owners who care about it"

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To the bates lover above google "Ken Bates, Chairman Leeds United Football Club" and click on the link and read his history, the bloke is dodgy as f**k and our club would be better off without him.

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Spot on about the QPR reference.

Also, Bates 'saving' us involved our going into administration FFS. How is that saving us?

The repercussions of which could still be terminal to the club's ambitions (if our Chairman had any) or even future.

Way to go Ken.

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I have come to the conclusion most leeds fans on here dont have a clue

ignoring the fact our first team is stronger than last season, and that the transfer window isnt closed yet...

the only worrying thing is lack of depth but that is always going to be a problem with us as we have little to no money to spend as we never got parachute payments.

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I agree, for once some good honest truth about KB - the man is a fraud, just ask inland revenue FFS the reason he wont sell LUFC is because the benifactors will not include any tax relief - so KB walks away with very little.. However next year when the CVA is wiped and the taxman bows his head - KB walks away with a smile and a big cheque - LUFC is an enterprise not a football club anymore

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If you want the club to be a plaything rather than a business then it is simple. BUY IT. Otherwise let the manager manage and supporters support.

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Your right mate alot of leeds supporters don't have a clue but they are in the minority and you are one of them.

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You bates haters are what's wrong with the club and here are two facts for you 1) Leeds are doing brilliantly under Bates even with your negativity and 2) You are in an insignificant minority so please start your own boycott and go away

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I read an interview with bates a couple of months ago that stated contracts to be sorted in August once pre season is out of the way. Show a bit of faith and support your team

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To read this stuff you wouldn't think we finished 7th in ist season back in champsionship after automatic promotion the year before...LEEDS fans get real...we nearly went out of business a few years back...and OF COURSE Bates wants to make money out of Leeds....football clubs have always been businesses...wake up

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03 Aug 2011 13:59:30
Alot of mixed messages coming out of ELLAND ROAD
Bates states 4 new players are coming in ? where are they then

Lormier states Simon has to get us promoted

Grayson states LEEDS fans expect to much about getting promoted

Grayson happy with the squad, happy for another leaky season in defence, no new defenders in Simon ??

Everybody other than Grayson realizes we need better defenders in

The truth is LEEDS have gone in for alot of new players and they have all turned us down

I suggest in future the manager and the board have a good chat before going public

You are sending out mixed mesages to the supporters

Personally all we need is a central defender, left back and a loan striker

And i think we will be in the play offs at the end of the season

MOT

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"Everybody other than Grayson realizes we need better defenders in"

Not everyone there is fans on here who think we are going to get automatic promotion with the team as it stands lol

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So Kisnorbo and Lees arent new in our defence this year? YES THEY ARE.

When does the transfer window close? End of the month.

Do you know what is going on at Leeds personally?

Are you Bates?

Are you Grayson?

Are you any of our players?

NO So stop negative speculation about the club and bloody well support them

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Got to agree i mean you tell us four players are signin and then tell us your happy with the sqaud. few lies be fired around.

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Tom Lees was at the club last year its just that the manger felt he wasn't good enough to even be part of the squad whilst we slid out of the play offs. Same can be said of White, Clayton and Nunez: 3 months ago the manager saw no value in even having them as possible back up yet now they are touted as first team regulars. Nobody hates us any more. They just laugh at us.

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That was probably the best and most true post I have seen on here. I agree 100%

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Lees, Clayton and Nunez were loaned out to get first team football. The same way Somma did and Beckford did and look how them 2 turned out stop being so negative and get behing the team

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I seem to remember several years ago payers such as Beckham, Scholes going on loan to lower league clubs to gain experience and it didn't do them any harm. Beckford spent over a season on loan and he came back a lot better than he went so just belt up and give them a chance to prove themselves

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"...were loaned out to get first team football."

Great.

Why were they loaned out?

Because 3 months ago the manager didn't see any chance of their getting first team football at Leeds. He saw the likes of Kilkenny & Johnson as being far better players and signed others on loan to replace the players we sent out.

Three months on and all of a sudden they're seen as first teamers?

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03 Aug 2011 13:43:09
Dont think anyone will sign now beforesaterday..

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Never know. How many times have we had players sprung on us before games eg Vokes, Christie and Gradel...watch this space

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03 Aug 2011 13:17:42
Knew it wouldn't take long for someone on here to link us with Luis boa morte. Why would we want him? If he isn't good enough for west ham then he isn't good enough for us.

On the flip side what's attractive about coming to Leeds? It's become apparent that a large fan base, big stature and excellent facilities count for nothing

Money, money, money

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Money counts and always has done. Sure, some players will tell the fans what they want to hear when they sign 'Once Leeds were interested I knew I'd come here' etc but unless they're raving idiots they sign for who will pay them best and who will further their career.

At the moment we pay very badly and get rejected by anyone half decent on that basis. When contracts are up for renewal our players also find they can get far better money from far 'smaller' clubs.

Any half decent player who might join a Championship team will look to join one that they could get promoted with. Does anyone really think we look like that to prospective players?

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Well it must be love of the fans thats keeping max and robert with us coz it aint the money is it

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03 Aug 2011 13:14:54
Any truth in James McFadden coming to Elland road? He'd be an exiting addition. And the type of player we need to further the clubs progress

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Course there is a chance , Leicester or Ipswich could offer him a contract which would mean barring cup competitions he could be at Elland Road at least once this season.

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03 Aug 2011 13:07:35
so as we all thought would happen has happened?... we have been linked with every freebie in the uk, gone for 5 or 6 been rejected cos of wages and now sg has come out saying he is happy with the squad....effing great..... at least season ticjkets will be cheaper in league1

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Do you really think Master Bates would reduce the price of season tickets even if we were relegated. He'd probably increase them to cover his loses...

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If you silly people have that much hatred for bates and no faith in the team to even stay up then I suggest you go support another team We don't want let alone need your kind of support

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Obviously you don't know much about Leeds pal. Ticket prices wil go up regardless of the league

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03 Aug 2011 12:33:09
Luis Boa Morte to be leeds next signing, his contract at west ham has been cancelled by mutual consent. SG is looking to add experience to the ranks. and this guy can play mid or as a forward could this be the man who KB was talking about?

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Doubt he will come to Leeds, as he has said he is sad to be leaving West Ham and also english football.

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Luis Boa Morte, gave SSN's a statement that he has left with mutual consent to take up an option abroad.

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This wont happen, he said himself he is moving away from england for a new challenge.

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I don't know but west ham fans on their fan website constantly slag him off and have been dying to get rid of for a long time so hopefully not

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SSN reporting that he is going to a Greek club.

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"SSN reporting that he is going to a Greek club" - Thats a relief

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03 Aug 2011 12:10:17
our Press office is not doing a good job at all Larry graysons latest' relaxed ' interview today in the paper and Sky totally saying hes happy and we dont need players totally contradicts what he said three days ago about NOT being happy with the squad ?

1; he was playing mind games with the players to get a 150% peformance against Nwcstle ( it worked )

2. He now doesnt want to appear desperate to agents and other clubs who know that we actually are in need

3. Bates has told him to toe the line

but it looks daft - and a total contradiction of the reality SORT IT

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No he said he was not happy with the performance of some of the players in Norway. That's a totally different thing and there is no contradiction. He will add two further players to the squad as he has said all along. Loans may arrive after that to cover injuries.

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2 and 3 I'll go along with, but mind games before a friendly?
Rubbish

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No he did to the guy who responded to the Original Post. In his post match interview after the Newcastle game he said he wasnt happy with squad and that he wanted to add a few players. reffering to a phrase of bringing players in, in the next 24 - 36 hours. Which means we must be moving closer as he didnt use the 48 hours phrase that has become linked with Grayson in this transfer window

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Its always the same. Initially SG will say he needs to make signings...KB will pretend there is money available...we'll get rejected by the freebies we go after...then SG will say he's happy with the current squad after all.

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Would it really be a good idea for a manager to come out a week before the season starts and say "we need more players, we are not strong enough". That would ruin team spirit. Managers are ALWAYS looking to strengthen their squads, they just say they are happy in public to maintain morale.

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First poster spot on Fella 1, 2, and 3 - and it is condescending to fans - its excuses and mixed messages and making Larry look like a muppet / Puppet - three daus ago he says hes not happy with depth and he needs to strengthen and will be in 48 hours rubbish and then comes out and says that he is happy with what hes got ?? what rubbish - get some truthful transparency out to fans good news or bad ? and then you dont have to keep telling porkys after porky

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03 Aug 2011 11:55:41
Ken Bates is clever he is not over spending and we are making a profit, probably the only club in the country without a debt. Butthat comes st a price, strict legislation attached to our CVA company voluntary arrangement mean if get promoted with in five years we have pay back Ridsdales debt. End by the way end of this season.

So does that mean we won't be trying to get promoted?

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Its 10 years ny the way. We will definately try to get promoted. We would owe £5million if we went up. Not that much compared to the £50million+ u get for being in the prem

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At last someone who has a grasp of the reality surrounding ken, and must said simons ambitions, I thought it was looking shady during the half dozen games, most of which we shoul easily have got enough points for the play off¬ s. In a perfect world risdale should stump up the debt he created it through reckless financing, Odd how in instances like these it¬ s always the loyal fans who suffer. so come leeds players get promotion in spite of the gerrymandering to do otherwise. LEEDS UNITED FOREVER.

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That ended last year we are free to get promotion now.

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Pretty sure its been longer than 5 years since we rocked the premiership.

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Am I wrong here or didn't Bates extend the offer at the last minute to make it 10 years to the creditors, to ensure he got the deal?

Anyway it was 30p in the pound and therefore I doubt is significant enough compared to the financial rewards of the EPL.

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I'm not too sure the Creditors took up that offer. From what I recall the offer was there and then it was withdrawn by Bates when others like Redbus and Morris came in.

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You can't not take up the offer to pay it back it's insolvency legislation. Ken Bates is no mug he got debt free and loose of the noose that would have eventually bankrupted us. When we get promoted we will have what (100.000.000 to spend and have a stadium to match our potential. End of now let's get behind the team and enjoy the ride. Third biggest city and kne city club, the good days are not far away

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03 Aug 2011 10:11:51
Max Gradel insists he cannot commit his long-term future to Leeds United until the club place an offer on the table.

Come on Bates, put a deal to him. He's probably our best player and need him for a chance of promotion.

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Fully agree, he is our match winner that keep's improving with every game (He is better than Beckford because of his work rate). Give him him the contract and lets go up this season, if not let him sign on the condition that if we don't go up he can leave for a set price Then which ever way we can't lose
MOT

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There's a problem there. Max will want 15-20k a week, then Luc, Snoddy and Jonny will want to match that. Bates won't provide that much outlay in wages.

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From what ive read gradel never wants to leave leeds ever. and thats quotes from him aswel. he is the man for leeds. i sooner see snodders go. sign him up SG and KB he deserves a new contract and if he doesnt get 1..... another player worth in excess of £5 million will be leaving for free come next summer MOT

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He'll go for free next summer if he doesn't sign though :/ MOT

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''There's a problem there. Max will want 15-20k a week, then Luc, Snoddy and Jonny will want to match that. Bates won't provide that much outlay in wages.''

Well mister crystal ball, how in the feck do you know that? He hasn't been offered any kind of contract and Max is more than aware of our max. 11k/week wage structure.

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It's a no brainer really, even upping his wages by £10k a week only costs the club an extra £520k per year and means you have an asset to the club worth in excess of £5m which increases the overall value of the club.

fail to offer him a new contract, he leaves at the end of the season for nothing, you lose an asset therefore decreasing the clubs overall value and you still need to shell out for a replacement who will either be of lesser quality or will want the same sort of wages that it would have taken to keep Max at the club...the choice is simples

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Surely KB has to bite the bullet and if we do not go up and the wage is unsustainable then look to sell him next year.

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More good news thats all that seems to come out of our club these days.

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Yeah, offer him and extra £10K per week won't take him near his alleged £25K demands, plus any increase has implications for every other squad member.

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You know it's the contract situations that constantly keep cropping up that annoys me most-losing good/average players for free instead of fee is not acceptable.
Forget the players we need to get in- keep the ones we could never afford to replace

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Give Gradel the revenue from image rights and a cut of shirt sales. That would easily put him over 20K whilst not breaking the wage limits; and this wouldn't p*ss off the other players. Am I the only one who thinks this is blindingly obvious?

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03 Aug 2011 10:04:56
I've just received a text off a friend of mine who works in the elland road club shop. She claims to have just seen former Bolton player Ricardo Gardener on the phone beside the Bremner statue. I hope not.. MOT

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1) your lying

2) why you hope not ? Ricardo Gardner would be a phenominal signing

3) he turned down West Ham and former boss big sam so why would he go to us

4) stop boring me with fake posts

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Ricardo Gardner dobut it as he's signed a new 1 year at Bolton and been given squad number 11 in there 2011/2012 squad list

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He signed a one year extension at bolton you pleb

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Cant believe a bird would recognise gardner just walking past. Dont think i would recognise him and im footy mad

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03 Aug 2011 06:22:14
Former inter milan midfielder IBRAHIM MAAROUFI is on trial at leeds and training at thorp arch with a view to a possible transfer Source=YEP

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Y the hell would we want him?? hes played summert like 4 games in his whole career since 2006

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Stop talking rubbish no mention of anything like that in the yep or on the website

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On January 2011, Belgian Pro League club Eupen announced the signing of Maaroufi in a free transfer.[7][8]

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Oh is that right, talkin rubbish eh, well b4 u go spouting off try getting some reading lessons because its on page 47 of wenesdays yep at bottom right above the barton write up, I am only passing on wot I read, I arnt here to make things up, I hate lies too It also says the player appeared most recently for belgian club KAS Eupen. Anoying

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If its true, sounds like a corker He has obviously impressed at all his other clubs looking at his stats

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Must of had some talent for him to be signed by inter and was the second youngest player ever for them have a look at him for no harm and who had heard of patrick viera he was rotting in the ac milan reserves when wenger found him

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He's been released by about 6 clubs, most after 6 months, clearly he either isn't very talented or is a disruptive influence. He didn't even make appearances for most clubs.

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03 Aug 2011 00:31:17
Is it just me that watches the news? Fifa are bringing in a wage cap over the next couple of seasons meaning that about 90% of players will have to take a massive cut wherever they go, so will everyone shut up about Bates being tight, he's just trying to get players in a stable position so that they aren't set up for a massive fall like with other clubs. Seems like too many of the unfaithful are wearing Leeds shirts these days.

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Lol how kind of mr bates, always thinking of others lmfao

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Where's this 90% figure come from? Out of thin air I would suggest.

Also the financial fair play rules are nothing to do with FIFA.

What was it Bates once said? "You want Premiership football, you pay Premiership prices."

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The wage cap will be well over what we are paying

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The cap on wages will only be introduced on the basis that each club has a certain wage cap based on the clubs income. now we all know how good clubs are at fiddling financial documents and finding ways round obstacles. the wage cap wont change a thing, it will only see more overseas buyers and owners thus more corruption in football so i can promise you this is not ken bates plan. haha made me laugh a lil bit actually, hes thinking of the players, wants to keep them in a stable position.lmao......... i have no doubt that bates wants our club to do well but it is a business and thats why he wants it to do well, he will be as tight as he can be throughout his stay at leeds because he is a business man

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Like 90% (haha) of other club owners/charmen. Of course it's a business, do you reallty think the yanks @ Scum give a damn about the club? But for a business it's doing damned well. No debt (for all you goldfish with short memories out there) and investment like we've never known in the ground to improve future potential turnover. The squad is good enough RIGHT NOW, maybe another one or two squad players to follow. Get behind them - and not with your knives drawn, et tu Brute

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If this is FIFA's doing, then it is a stark contrast to the millions of pounds THEY waste or pay themselves......

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The wage cap will be double, triple, possibly even more of the Leeds budget, Bates just is tighter than a duck's arse. Now don't get me wrong, I want us to be financially sound, I think the last thing any of us want is to see another fall from grace, but we can be financially sound AND competitive. Which is what the transfer activity suggests we are not. However, with all that being said the proof will be in Saturday's pudding.

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This is an interesting take on things. The facts though are that Shaun Harvey himself states that the wages to turnover ratio at Leeds is "FAR BELOW the 60% recommended limit" FIFA though as we all know is just a gang of crooks, all that needs to be done is some money transferred through a few Nevis/British Virgin Islands bank accounts (Preferred by drug dealers and criminals I believe) and they will do what they are told.

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This won't happen mate, how can you stop a man from earning his full potenial, yes they eran too much already but it will be thrown out of court once all the clubs appeal it.
Other wise the likes of abramovic will just invest money from other areas that then would give them an advantage.
This will never happen.

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Whether we like it or not this is a business and has to be run as such unless a benevolent owner comes in and funds from his own pocket. How many of us would dip into our savings and hand over our hard earned cash (im not talking about season tickets/admission fees- these are paid for a service provided) to line the pocket of already wealthy young men or to pay for the services of a player who may or may not be any good. Not many, I would hazard a guess. Leeds United nowadays is a business just like any other company and we need to accept that

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No Ken Bates is clever he is not over spending and we are making a profit, probably the only club in the country without a debt. Butthat comes st a price, strict legislation attached to our CVA company voluntary arrangement mean if get promoted with in five years we have pay back Ridsdales debt. End by the way end of this season.

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Guessing the OP is a Man Utd fan on the wind up? The idea of a benevolent Ken Bates looking out for the players whilst every other club carries on paying the going rate in ignorance was quite amusing though. :)

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Yeh your a true leeds fan because you believe in what Bates is doing. Get off your moral high ground sunshine

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Unfaithful for speaking the truth, the longer we are away from the top flight the worse this will get.The top league already has it, s mini league, and as any LEEDS fan will tell you we don, t just settle for being a wigan, blackburn, bolton, swansea, west brom, qpr, stoke , wolves, norwich, sunderland or even spurs everton.villa, newcastle.

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I'm not saying I'm a true Leeds fan because I believe in Bates, I'm saying that I'm a true Leeds fan because I'm taking the best out of the situation and believing that Grayson wouldn't stand and watch this happen to the club he loves unless it would help us in the long term. Lets be honest, we're all speculating here, none of us know the inner workings of the club, unlike you I'm speculating that we're gonna get back to the golden days, that's why you're the unfaithful, 'sunshine'.

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03 Aug 2011 00:09:38
Jason koumas available on a free, decent midfielder at championship level

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Sam Vokes and Nile Ranger available at around 800k. Both not wanted by Wolves and Newcastle either could do a job for Leeds (anyone agree)

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Sam vokes was terrible when he was on loan to us couple of seasons ago.

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We had vokes on loan the other season, he was rubbish and that was in League 1. Big fan of Koumas

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Vokes could do a job for leeds? No thanks You obviously haven't seen him play.

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Ranger looks a very good prospect but can't believe Ashley would sell him. Can you imagine KB and Ashley in the bar after Sundays match " it's your round " " no its your round " etc

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Vokes = sucks.

Koumas = Decent, but defends about as well as Killa, if not worse. So he won't be able to play in the ''two'' behind Jonny boy. We already have Nunez to back up Howson if needed.

Ranger = Newcastle sold Carrol and are left with Ba, Ameobi and L venkrands. Doubt that they are willing to sell him.

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Why assume i havent seen him play you clown.. ive followed leeds for 30yrs home and away.. corse i knew he played for us but in my opinion better than Paynter

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I've been supporting the mighty whites for 54 years lads and I think Koumas would be a great signing. Have you seen the way he sits in midfield and dictates play. By the way the only time Leeds has been successful is when they have had a top midfield. Bremner, Giles, gray, lorimer. Batty, Speed, Strachan and McAllister. The midfield is the teams strength helping the defence and attack.

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