Leeds Rumours Archive August 07 2011

 

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07 Aug 2011 19:45:18
Grayson to be sacked,Mervyn day to take control until new manager joins;strachan in talks?

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As much of a disappointment yesterday's game was no way whatsoever will this be happening

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And what has Strachan done as a manager,great player,no better than Grayson.

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STRACHAN: Your havin a laugh. As much as I like the guy he has done absolutely nowt in the English leagues and shouldnt come anywhere near Elland Road. Sentimental trip will do us no good at all.

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Two words gary mcallister, it never works out

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Strachan wouldn't be as naive as SG in covering for Bates - he'd say it how it was and Bates is too much of a coward to risk that.

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Fans stabbing Grayson in the back already. shame on you all.

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Yes sg should be sacked just for last season alone, this whole pre season and the way he has conducted himself in the media and his transfer dealings lastmin.com (joke). I believe that there is money to spend, managers sit down with chairman during close season discuss budgets players in out. KB and SG have done this if bates says that sg has money he has money thats it. Tell me why did SG buy brown, why is bessone, paynter, bruce, rachupka, bromby, parker, lonergan, connolly why sign o'dea on lone sg is a really average manager with a very poor record. He can't organise or motivate players

never mind bates out I want GRAYSON OUT......

but not for strachan no time for sentiments

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It's not stabbing SG in the back it's the truth which SG knows nothing about given his ever changing media statements, he has been a poor manager last year was the time to push and he just didn't capitilise on that the EC was a poor leaue last season compared to this year and the year before last

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I agree, shame on you.
One loss and you're turning on Grayson? I'll admit I don't always agree with his tactics but he's a good man, and a good manager, he would cut himself in two for Leeds United.

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'Yes sg should be sacked just for last season alone' we got promoted the season before, just another example of over expectant leeds fans that still cant face reality that we cant afford amazing players anymore

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TO THE GUY SLAGGING SG, YOUR A UTTER MUPPET,SHAME ON YOU.....M.O.T

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One game into the season? just hope southampton game will make Bates invest but i think SG done well with what he has....so far

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Some of our fans deserve League1 football at best.

Grayson might well make tactical errors - which managers dont? - but he's done pretty well when given precisely b*gger all by Bates.

He signed crap last year because that's all he was given backing to get. His other targets told us to get lost when they saw the wages on offer - Eustace & Montgomery for example.

I can't believe any 'fan' is so dumb as to come out with a comment like "if Bates says that sg has money he has money thats it." Bates said the Delph money, the Chelsea money, the Garbutt money would be used for team strengthening and was it? Bates said we were buying back Thorpe Arch and did we? Bates said we always get our targets and do we?

At the start of the summer Bates's repeated lies to fans in his programme notes were exposed and a Judge ruled that he had commited "grave" libels and his programme notes were "riddled with material inaccuracies".

Oh yeah, we can really believe what Bates says can't we?

If you support Bates you hate Leeds.

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....and how would changing the manager change things, whoever replaces SG will still only have 2 bob a week to run things.
I get the awful feeling this is it as far as LU is concerned, we have reached the outer limits.

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Grayson Out. Will nopt stand up to Bates too weak to be Leeds Manager. MOT

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Replacing SG will solve most problems as the new manager will be able to coach, speak to the media, make correct tactical decisions, have a bit of time in the transfer market to solve SG crap squad

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Would love to see some of you lot manage Leeds who crtitise the management and ownership...with all your negativity there would be a player revolt and relegation Get an f-ing grip...GRAYSON IN BATES IN FANS WHO CANT SUPPORT THE CLUB THROUGH THE DOWNS OUT OUT OUT

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How the hell do we know that the cash from delph, kasper etc isnt in fact sat there ready to spend but Grayson is too stupid or afraid to spend it guys

as usual, we don't know anything so lets stop assuming we know what we are talking about rather than babbling crap

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Whats wrong with you all leeds have been up s**t creek it takes years to build it back up again all these championship clubs have credit from investors leeds have not got that
option we are still blacklisted for being bankrupted no one will lend them money on credit thats why there was a transfer fund of 1 mill plus sale of kaspa so 2 5 mill, spent 200 00 k so we have 2 mill 200 k left and he wants three players 2 midfielders and a top defender, obrian has been poor and has lost his response and pace . he was also very unimpressed with snody and of course Connelly was the worst player on the park , larry will get it right mot mr r

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I like SG but some of his decisions in transfer market and his team selctions baffle me. Obrian is awful, clayton is awful and Snodgrass is a one trick pony. Not to mention Paynter, his keeps playing him and only SG thinks he is any good, the rest of world can see he is crap Last season i remember we were losing against sheff utd i think and he brought on paynter over somma says it all

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I remember Gary macs slight dig at Bates in an interview to the reasons behind his departure after 5 losses. " I wanted to bring in a few new faces in January due to injuries but if your only given enough money to shop in a Bargain basement then you get Bargain basement quaility "
bates out

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To the guy who said clayton is awful, have u seen any pre season games or the saints game, clayton was our best player by far

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"Yes sg should be sacked just for last season alone"

to the person who sed that, u my friend clearly have no idea what u are talking about, grayson is an average manager with a poor record...... what record have u been looking at... did u see what happened at blackpool or how about the fact we were just promoted from league 1 and missed the play offs by 3 points at our first time of asking....u people seriously need to get a bit of perspective.. its all good to have high hopes but seriously cumon

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F*** bates its him not SG that sendin us tits up

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Sack a manager after one game some people make me laugh, suppose west ham should sack Allardyce then? i mean they are the joint favourites to win the league and they actually signed premiership players but they lost their game so he should be sacked then lol

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I love our club Leeds Utd, and i see like we all do our transfer targets going elsewhere if we beleive the paper talk. The one thing that i have never understood is with Leeds Uniteds revenues from games, merchandise, web sales and global reach why we have never been aquired by big foreign investment? I know Mr Bates is at the Helm but surely Mr Bates would be interested in a big return for his investment if offered. I cannot beleive we have been overlooked and other clubs have been invested in to some tune. We have such a massive potential if backed a little.

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All your that want grayson out you must be mad look what his done for us, is 1st season he came to us with the points he got us would have had us promoted at start of season if he was there from the beggining then season after we beat man united? got promoted your forgetting that he improved players ready for champ gradel was no were neer as good as he is in champ then when he was in league 1 neither was becchio we finished 7th without many sighnings if he keeps improving players like he does our youth will be awsome he knows what hes doing hes best manager we had in years

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You say he cant motivate players, look at max g he sorted his attitude out

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07 Aug 2011 19:43:27
LEEDS UTD:Heard a rumor, Bates will *SACK* Grayson,and ZOLA will become new manager WITHIN 2 WEEKS Gj

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Prefer to have John Sheridan than Zola or Strachan

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Do you really thrink Zola will be the new Leeds manager ? Firstly, Grayson wont get sacked yet.
Secondly, could you imagine Zola being are manager ?
Thirdly, i doubt he would want to manage us

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I should imagine if Leeds results and performances are still bad in a few weeks he would lose his job and Zola would be among the candidates but I think you are guessing rather than knowing anything.

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I'd like to see a combo of Ray "butch" Wilkins and Zole we would play great football and have some lovely bite to our game hw solid would leeds be come on ken make me happy use your chelski routes for something good

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Wtf Grayson brought us up and we finished 7th why sack him? get behind the team its one game

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Grayson is a brilliant manager so what we lost our first game we will win the rest... have a bit of faith in him

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07 Aug 2011 18:16:26
Leeds United are hoping to bring Chelsea’s 22 year old Left Back Ryan Bertrand in on a season-long loan.

However this deal does seem unlikely given Bates's realtionship with the club

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And your source is? no point posting something if you cannot back it up

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His source is prob duncan castles twitter same place I have seen this rumour. Quality signing if happens but doubt it will.

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I hope we get him but very unlikely and a load of other clubs want him, like premier league clubs.

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He's class we just need to get rid of connolly, bromby, bessone, parker

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Not original poster but the ever reliable Daily Mail have run this story today

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It makes no sense in sacking SG,i said before that SG should resign,which i meant as a protest to him having his hands tied by BATES.on all fronts.How can a manager work under these conditions?
Who ever LUFC get in won't make any difference. BATES still holds the purse strings and won't let Go.
Really is time for Bates to go and go now

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07 Aug 2011 16:40:28
Boukary drame a French left back to join Leeds on loan. He was wanted by Newcastle but looks like Leeds have won the race

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Turning Oh Dear in to a Drame sounds about right

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How can he join on loan when he hasnt got a club?

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Not on loan he is one of the three who had a trial at farsley. as usual free not proven, great if we had a good side

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We can't beat my nan in a race let alone rin races for players.

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Who is this bourkey the frence men left back we leeds united need brittish left back a proper centre back another midfielder and a striker and i,ve heard that snodgrass want,s to leave 4 sunderland for 5 million he was complete rubbish get rid keep player,s who want to play for leeds the club i love for 35 years

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He's played mainly in the French league. Made 60 appearances for Sochaux but thats over the last 4 years. Also had a year with Real sociedad but only made one appearance all season. Newcastle and notts forest rumoured to have had a look but not bothered offering contracts.

At least he's be a specialist left back and presumably as he hasn't been able to get a club all summer maybe he'd be desperate and therefore cheap.

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He wasn't at Farsley, there was a LM a CM and a CF there

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07 Aug 2011 14:02:00
Forget mendy deal is to complicated we need Here and now the answer experience.UPSON,HITZLSPERGER and RHODES from huddersfield the first 2 are without clubs come on ken,what's gonna cost you more relegation or these players for f--sake spend some f---ING money or we will force you out of our great club I promise you that.

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He spent feck all last year. He shouldnt be being given any more time. BATES OUT NOW.

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How do you know it's not graysons fault for not spending the money? Our chairman/owner is poor in terms of personal wealth as I have pointed out before. The clubs that have spent money are all backed by groups/men far richer than bates Also the first two names might be without club but will be commanding very substantial wages think about it. They will be more than likely be wanting 20-40k a week which we can't afford

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Bates has said they money is there for the players. But the wages are not so of we get free players why don't we use the transfer funds to pay the wages.

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To the person above who is defending Mr bates answer me a few things I am struggling with,1 where has the money gone from the delph sale which he promised would go into rebuilding the squad has it.2 the money from schmeichel was promised on new players has it I think no to both ,also we have the highest gate receipts in the championship and some of the dearest ticket prices,why can't we afford decent wages, Mr bates is rich and gettin richer at our expense let's get him out he is raping our club.

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Been saying this all closed season BATES OUT and please all u so called fans who say bates saved the club remember this relegated to it lowest league the club as ever been in its history administration all with bates at the helm not to memtion the lack of moneys not spent in all the year bates as been hear now let all get together and force bates from our great club before were relegated again

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As I have mentioned it might just be graysons fault for not spending the money that is there None of us know as were not involved in the finances of Leeds unitedso instead of hatred towards bates why not go looking for answers and knowledge to all your questions?
The other side of the coin is that the first 11 at the start of play yesterday on paper at least should have been able to beat southampton. Question is where was the organization within the team as in marking etc that's sg's department? Why didn't the players look like they wanted to be on the pitch such as snodgrass etc thought it was SG's job to motivate them?

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Summer 2011 spending - East Stand development (on a ground LUFC don't own) £7million v £200,000 spent on players? 1 of the highest ticket prices in the league, highest match day programme cost in all 4 english leagues (£4 for 2011/12 season). Average attendance circa 27k last season. Bates has previously told us that if we wanted a Premier League team, then we need to pay Premier League prices. We, the fans, are fulfilling our part of the bargain by paying the prices, so its time either Bates delivered on his part of the deal or f***ed off

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The only complicated thing in the Mendy deal is SG not learning from Nunez last season if a player has class then freakin use him get him signed what a looser SG is.

So called leeds fans you need to realise that KB is not the devil he does own ER, the investment isn't even £6m so where you got £7 from the money will be recouped time and time again every team in every division would do and in most cases have done what bates is doing the, KB has given SG money to spend more to the point why has he not spent it and why has he not sold the crap players in the team that we all know need to go and, why is he not building a squad fit for the challange bates as nothing to do with any of thoughs points sg has no tactil knowlege his transfer record is terrible , he worse in the loan market he can't change a game look at the preston game from last season he is really really poor the only time he can motivate a team is in cup runs againts scum

love leeds hate SG love leeds hate SG

MoT

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To the last guy : so didnt he motivate us to get promoted in his first full season, he didnt motivate us to 7th after being promoted, get a grip you f---ing moron

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To the comment above. You're a disgrace mate.

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I'm sorry but the comment above is ridiculous, grayson is the best manager we've had since sgt. wilko, if you're going to hate anyone then hate bates, simon loves the club and without him we would probably still be in league 1. Ken bates is wasting money on the stadium when the squad isn't strong enough, and even the people defending bates are beginning to turn on him. We all love leeds, we hate ken bates.

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07 Aug 2011 13:28:25
Personaly I think O'dea was poor and got beat too much at LB, I think He would be a good CB, Put him instead of O'brein and bring in a LB any thoughts? Just my opinion...

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Agree at this level full back is one of the most important positions... We needcaxspecialist there.... Not a centre half

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My thoughts exactly he's too slow to be a left back and I was never O'brien's biggest fan anyway, prefer Bruce over him, and thats saying something lol

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COMPLETLEY AGREE OBRIAN LOOKES PAST IT AND CONNOLY LOOKS CRAP AS EVER BUT I MUST SAY WHY DOES HE PLAY MAX AND SNOD HUGGING THE BYLINE FOR WIDTH WHEN THEY HAVE TO CUT IN THEY SHOULD SWITCH SIDES WHEN PLAYING THIS WAY AND WHEN THEY ARE MORE CLOSE IN SIDE THEY SHOULD SWAP HE DOESN'T SEEM TO
TO SEE IT MOT MR R

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We had two perfectly good full backs in our ranks at one time, Richardson and Harding and we let them go for nothing both played against us and they were head and shoulders above Connerly and O'dear ( no wonder Ipswich didn't want him).Come on Bates spend some cash go for the likes of Upson, Killgallon, Hitzsalberger

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Who let frazer go for nothing oh that would be SG

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Another example of sg being a world class manager how many more poor decisons does sg need to make before leeds fans open their eyes??

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Completeley agree with the comments
very worrying on saturday o;brien was awful letting frazer go was a massive mistake too, im worried after one game

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I wudent say odea is poor ive seen him play plenty times up here in glasgow... i think all of them bar paddy shud be looked at bfroe him... imo eniway

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Totally agree as i posted at the start when i new o dea was comming hes a centre half not a left back get o brien outa that team too many mistakes last season and look again saturday. bates get the wallet out

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CAN`T AGREE MORE.I WAS THERE ON SATURDAY, AND THE DEFENCE IS TOO QUICK TO DIVE IN AND TOO SLOW TO REACT.CHANGE NOW OR STRUGGLE ALL SEASON.

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Basically naylor shouldnt have left we should sell o'brien put o'dea with naylor and a decent and useful defender like bertrand

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07 Aug 2011 11:27:44
Grayson wonts to sign mendy up but the deal is complicated as sg wonts to loan him out to learn the English game.Read this From y.e.p

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Spell "want" correctly. O and A aren't even beside each other on the keyboard

It makes it look like he wont sign mendy, when infact h wAnts to sign mendy.

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07 Aug 2011 03:17:18
Sg has had all summer long to sort the back 4 out an look what happend we need 1 new cb to replace andy ob cos that was shamfull

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I agree ob was absolutely useless today The only plus i took from the game was that clayton played quite well. I wish that chance had fallen to anyone except paynter. Nunez looked lively when he cam on too hopefully he will get more game time in the next match.

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I don't normally comment but when he sold kasper it was because the defence needed sorting out well I have to say he has done a wonderful job

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Us loyal leeds fans season ticket holder for28 years why another season of bad defending sg as had almost 3 years to sort the defence out yes he,s had no money from bates but it,s is team they,s no organising through team .i think it,s time for bates and s.g to leave just fed up after 1 game

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What was that,just like last season thats what.Average second division team, is that good enough for a club with our size and history.

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He was at fault on the first 2 goals IMO & an argument can easily be made about the 3rd one too. I think he can do alot of good things, but i don't know if he is good enough to be a definite starter every week. I was also very dissapointed in snoddy, i hope that was just a bad day for him because he never looked in the game.

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Leeds will do nothing with bates in charge join the chant bates out

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Think apart from O'Brien the defence were solid, lonergan had no chance with any of the goals they were pure class. Southampton had 4 shots on target and scored three. Paynter is s**te and blatant penalty disallowed joke kisnorbo class and O'Dea to play centre half buy a f***ing left back.

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Midfield needs sorting too. Clayton looked good but someone needs to tell Brown that we were playing football, not rugby.

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You can't blame SG when this is the kind of thing that happens at ER.
SG: "I need a defender. This is who I want to buy"
Old Man Bates: "No you can't have him he's too expensive"
SG: "OK What about this guy? He's on a free"
Old Man Bates: "Offer him League 1 wages if he doesn't like it tell him to sling his hook"
SG: "I still need a defender"
Old Man Bates:"What about Him?"
SG: "That's the Janitor sir"
Old Man Bates:"Oh......What about that guy"
SG: "That's Peter Lorrimer"
Old Man Bates:" Oh yes, so it is. Morning Peter What about this guy?"
SG: "Who....never heard of him"
SG: "I've just Wiki'd him, he's a midfielder"
Old Man Bates:"Yes but he's willing to play for next to nothing"
SG: "I told you, I need a defender"
Old Man Bates:"Do you want him or not"
Old Man Bates: "Simon....Simon Where you going?"
Old Man Bates:"Did he just say he's going to a cook off?"

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Absolute disgrace...O'Brian is a complete donkey, Brown, why oh why did we get him, and as for Paynter what a joke..whats wrong with Grella...I only saw Clayton and Kisnorbo working on that pitch..

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Why an earth he keeps faith in Paynter is beyond me. He is seriously lacking in confidence, he couldn't score in a Roman brothel. He should of being shipped out this summer. The defence seriously needs to get it together If not we could find ourselves without any points come the end of august

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Time to give up talking about what might be happening and who might be coming in, yesterday showed that the manager isnt competent and the chairman isnt interested in strengthening just saving money to finance his other none football related issues at our beloved club. Until BOTH go, noting will change

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I agree obrian was rubbish but should not have played that game all pre season he has had 45min of football to me bromby Bruce or lees should have been in there. But the hole team was rubbish yeah we c not expect to win first game we lost last year first but they was no positives out of that game

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We were awful......we seem to have presumed kisnorbo will sort out all our problems but he can not make up for the 3 poor players joining him in the back 3. I thought O'dea was useless. Brown looked out of his depth, Gradel and Snodgrass did nothing, Paynter never looked like he was going to finish that as soon as he got the ball....a very bad day at the office

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Well if yestadays performance dont tell ya we need more players then frig no,s wat will 3 up the purse strings bates n grayson about time ya bring quality in aftarall those was your words. wud ya like 2 tell us wen ya gunna start 2 bring em in then .

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Ob as not just become sh.t but he as only play 45 mins all pre season, he should have be on the bench. the whole team were awful, lets hope that is it out of the way. snoddy needs to be sold he wasn't in the game and didn't look one bit interested. gradel and clayton tried there best. howson upfront was a terrible move mot

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Players who played well on saturday were clayton, kisnorbo and howson. and it wasnt lonergan's fault for the goals and he kept the scoring down with 2 great saves, but everyone else were not worth looking at, but come on first game of season guys have faith

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How do we know bates hasn't given Grayson the money and it's him that's not spending because he thinks the squad is good enough? Without knowing what goes on behind closed doors you can't just blame bates when he could have offered Grayson money but he doesn't want to spend it

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You guys might not agree. yes our defence was rubbish again but don't u all think we should be looking at the coaches not just players and managers and chairman As it is the defensive coach what needs the sack.

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I am sorry to say as a life long leeds fan i am hugely embarrased with saturdays performance. I truley believe we can not get promotion due to the IVA given to us. if we get promotion this year we have to repay 90p in the £ which would cripple us. as for the team ? do we have a team ? paynter is a donkey. obrien omg we were useless and no ideas
Gj

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90p in the pound? We owe around 15 mill which we have to pay if we go up but since we would get at least 70 mill its hardly a problem.

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Why would that clause cripple us if we get promoted? The amount we have to pay is nothing in comparison to the amount we would get for been promoted. And despite the performance I can't believe that bates has told Grayson to tell his team to loose as we don't want to get promoted until next season And as a professional sportsman why would you go out to loose? I think the competitive spirit in them all (while not evident sat) wouldn't allow them to go out to intentionally loose

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Why is it all the fans can see it but SG cant? Most if the comments on here are spot on. OB was terrible as were Connelly and O'Dea, Brown was a disgrace. It was clear the defence was the biggest problem last year but Graysons done nothing about it. Kisnorbo & Clayton who both did well pre-season looked the only one's trying as did Nunez when he came on. More worrying was that Snodgrass looked totally disinterested. Howson playing up front was a joke and really shows what faith Grayson actually does have in Paynter. I agree Grella would have been a better option. My only surprise here is that people are defending Lonergran. He's let 5 goals in in 2 games and most of them looked soft. I'm sorry, but I think I could have saved the first one yesterday despite OB's bad defending.

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To the person who made last comment on this thread I agree with most of your post except: grella is in no way the answer and have to disagree about lonergan the shot was placed too well and it was ob's fault for not closing the player down giving him more time to pick his spot.

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Longergan aint superman, every keeper conceeds what you call a 'soft goal' although all 3 goals were the fact that obriens pants were ripped down that much they ended up on the washing line

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I just meant Grella would have been a better option than Paynter. At least he's got a bit of confidence. By no means do I think he is the answer up front. Goal was def OB's fault but I still think the keeper could have done better. Newcastle goals also went straight through him.

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DURING THE WARM UP PAYNTER CRASHED A FEW INTO THE BOTTOM CORNER NO PROBLEM.PERHAPS HE SUFFERS FROM NERVES OR MAYBE HE REALLY IS A DONKEY.

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FROM BEHIND THE GOAL IT LOOKED LIKE LONNERGAN SHOULD HAVE SAVED THE FIRST GOAL, HE WAS SLOW TO GET TO THE BALL

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