Leeds Rumours Archive September 07 2012

 

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07 Sep 2012 16:40:14
Before people start saying boycott the games, or start chanting bates out etc at home games need to have a moment and think, there is a time and a place, if your in the ground you need to give your 100% to get behind the team for 90mins and forget about Bates, slag him of all ya want outside those 90mins, look at Blackburn last season, they where more concerned about a certain individual than the 11 players playing football, I believe Blackburn should of stayed up, however the negativity surrounding the place had to have an impact on the players and staff, just my view.

Let's get behind the team (like 90% have already been doing I must add) no marquee signing, Ohh well, we are just going to have to be our 12 man and sign Leeds to victory, let's make ER a fortress, scare the opposition to death!
I hate bates but once at the game my only concern is supporting the 11 Leeds players on the pitch, whoever they may be

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I agree it should be about supporting the team during the game

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That's a very short-termist attitude, and the sort of thing that Bates thrives on. You think about it.

Boycott a couple of games and Bates will be forced to either a) place the club in admin and leave or b) sell up. It would be B obviously because A would leave him with no cash for the club.

Personally, I'd rather see fans boycott. It won't take long to get rid of him and then we'll be able to support a team and new owner we can get behind.

Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forwards. If only our fans could realise this.

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Good post bud,at last someone who talks sense,Elland Rd needs to be an intimidating place to come,only the fans can provide that,inside the ground must be 100% behind the players,so stick together and cheer us back to the prem.

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Just viewing the "unbelievables" means there will always be persons who believe Bates will listen to these chants - he is too thick skinned & used to being a figure of hate for that- & give a damn & the players won't be affected by the atmosphere. Unbelievable !

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Forget slagging Bates off. Support the team and leave the business side to the suits.

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Theres only one way to hit Bates, he's too thick skinned he would just brush chants and abuse off, so the only way is hit him in the p[ocket, we should all before the match and at half times boycott the food and drinks hall, and also boycott the silvourneer shop before and after the matches, he would hate to be paying staff for nothing and all them meat pies going to waste, stay in the stands at half time and chant for our great club..... Dave

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Boycott the matches and the club suffer, results suffer and Bates will put us into administration (which strangely one poster seems to think would be a good thing!) Noone will want to buy us as with a 10 point deduction you can wave goodbye to promotion and suddenly we're heading back to league one...good plan!!

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Yes what i'll do is voice my opinion on a soap box in city centre that way bates is forced
t here me.

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All this talk about the club suffering if a boycott is instigated has no basis. Bates has been bleeding this club for the duration of his ownership. If LUFC becomes less profitable it will serve to focus Bates' mind a little more on a) the clubs profitability going forward from what looks like a potential collapse of the current offer and b) may just make him realise that the current offer from the consortium almost certainly constitutes a substantial profit for him.
Boycotting ER will NOT result in receivership,..too saleable an asset in any circumstance. Also potential buyers are not daft, and im certain they will be well aware of the diss-affection between us fans and bates.
BOYCOTT ER LLHB MOT

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The only way to get bates out is hit him in the pocket. He is a cancer within and the only way to get rid of him is to starve him of money. We wont get promotion under him ad he wont invest in the team . So the post above saying if we boycott games will mean no promotion amd league oone is utter crap. You honestly think our squad cam see a season through at the current level without investment? Not a chance. Bates will not invest in the team , just selling our players of vslue and bleeding us dry. Sooner some people see this

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About time a sensible post, wonder never.

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Support the club for 90mins on the pitch but have a sit in protest after the game.

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Sure, boycott the games and let the team suffer. Boycott the games and make us even less attractive to investors. Boycott the games and let the opposition fans outsing the few remaining fans. Boycott the game and watch where the cuts are made, cos it sure as hell won't be from Bate's pocket. Think about it. The bank collapse hit who hardest? The high up people? Nah, it hit all the little people like us while the big city boys laughed and pocketed million pound bonuses for contributing to the worldwide financial instability.... Taking pennies from the coffers at LUFC will not bother Bates one tiny bit, he'll just reduce the staffing to cover it and knock people out of work. He'll cut wages and facilities, sell any assets he can (possibly including Thorpe Arch) and scrape pennies off the sweating backs of the people hidden from our view before he loses a single quid himself. Those who support the boycott need to stop being so naive and simplistic about what will or will not work here. BATES OUT? For the love of God, yes please! But not by a boycott, he is far too wily to allow that to affect him. A boycott would only prove him right about fans being 'morons', because it would be attacking and damaging the thing they love, not the person they hate.

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Sorry but it's gone beyond this. That was the rhetoric for last season. Time to put Bates in the ejector seat and press eject. By any means.

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How will chanting bates out outside the stadium and then going inside going to harm bates he still gets your money if you are happy for bates to remain at leads rinsing money from the club selling our asets keep attending games bates wont get any more of my money asl your selfs last season we sold howson gradel and smiechel for 7 million spending a frction in fetching in replacments in howsons case we didnt even fetch replacemenst in for him or gradel we have been told there is no money for new players with only 1 fit central midfielder every one knows thats bates wont invest any money on the playing side he has lied to us time and time again he said the sale of delph wen to redevelope the west stand the fact is he took out a loan to redevelope moew money wen missing there

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I agree with you my friend Bates is a liar and the sale of Gradel Schimichel, Howson and Delph underline it. Lots of money has come in , Bates has sold the season ticket sales to fund a stand we do not need, run up legal fees in the Levi trial. No wonder we are in Sh1t

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If I wanted to support Portsmouth I would have last season. Bates is taking the piss

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Here here
ROBBO MOT

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Could not agree more with the original poster. Things are never going to be perfect at any football club -it's the nature of footy fans that we are always going to want more than we've got -better players, more success, more entertainment. I don't like Ken Bates (though I cannot think of many fans of any club that I know who think their owners are doing a good job) -but does that mean that I have the right to chant in a manner potentially damaging to the players' ability to concentrate on the task of winning games, or spoiling others' expensively-acquired enjoyment? Where do we draw the line -do we boo players we don't like or chant for a beleaguered manager to be sacked? I would rather not have Ken Bates running our club, but do I have the right to vociferously and aggressively demand his removal until I get my own way? Trying to bully him out just makes him more determined to stay and keep up the fight anyway -so why risk jeopardising the team's prospects, especially when we're performing pretty well on the pitch, with a decent manager at the helm? Chapel A

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To the poster talking about Thoro Arch being sold. Got news for you, it was sold a long time ago and Bates has been promising to buy it back for 7 years. In fact as regards Thorp Arch, the latest noises out of the club is that they're looking at repurposing an old school building and playing field as a new training ground as they deem Thorp Arch too expensive.

Investors are not stupid. Leeds is a massive club with great potential. A boycott of a current owner after 8 years of hell isn't going to put them off. And as for those talking about us missing out on promotion - what planet are you on? We are NOT going up with our threadbare squad.

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Spot on post.
WE are the new signing; the 12th man. WE
inspired the team 2 nil down against Blackburn.
WE will have an influence on results.
Don't worry about Bates; his time is up ; he
hasn't the cashflow to see us through to
January; has to sell!
AltrinchamAndrew

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Has the world gone mad. Support the team, let LUST, do all the chasing and organising the protests. At present ken loves all that s going on, he loves controversy and being he centre of attention, do th more he hears and sees the less likely he will move on. Let's get behind the team and manager, and march on together, rather than play to kens ego

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You are so weak it would take 4 games from now to xmas and he would be gone we must stick together

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On what basis, club in admit and out of business

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I watched Leeds vs MK Dons away, Mcallister's last game. Fans turned on manager...he was gone. Trust me directors all listen to fans...remember the banner at Ricoh arean...was standing next to them they saw it. I feel its about time we put a line in the sand...never mind LUST...Service Crew

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Ken bates loves short sighted people like you if we stayed as 1 and stayed away do you really think he would let his football club worth 40 to 50 million pound go into admin would he hell he would dig into those deep pockets put money in and sell has fast as he can for gods sake grow apair and stay away havent you heard the old saying divide and conquer and that is what bas-ard bates is doing we are leeds and we must stick together

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Grow a pair? Some people need to hold their fecking nerve! Bloody in fighting. Some people just cant help but get nervous and panic. Give yourself a fecking slap.

Back Warnock and the team. Hold your nerve. Its coming.

Fawksey

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Fawksey get your nose out of ken's arse and smell the coffee warnock was lied to and would thank us in the long run give your self a slap because you need one you are giving your hard earned money to a man who has no respect for leeds fans and call's us all morons

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To the poster replying to my post mentioning Thorpe Arch, that's no news to me at all mate. I would not be in the least bit surprised if Bates owns it through some shady transaction which was the insinuation in my response.

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Well Ken was right about one thing some fans are morons. You only have to look at the postings on this site for evidence of that!

I hope there is a new injection of cash and direction in the club and thats what Bates wants too. I think it does the club no good to do a "Backburn" and I think a lot of he people on here advocating that arent supporters of Leeds United and are as Bates pointed out - morons

Fawksey

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To the guy that was ranting at Fawksey can you show me the evidence of Bates calling us ALL morons? i've never seen that one at the time i thought that was bang out of order and hate Bates but the more i see comments like yours the more i start to think just how right Bates was by calling some of our fans morons. I've heard some fans say i hope we get put it into admin because then he wont be able to own us. Well them same people moan about Bates selling key players, what do you think happens when you go into administration its laughable some of these comments.

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07 Sep 2012 13:07:50
Stoke are looking to balance the books following the transfer window and are prepared to loan out the likes of Michael Tonge, Mama Sidibe, Danny Higginbotham and Wilson Palacios - DAILY EXPRESS. I think Wilson Palacios would be a very good player at Championship level, he'd do a job for us!!

Believable48 Unbelievable11

Maybe nunez could persuade him

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Problem is not the amount or quality of players available - the problem is wages attached to these players - we do not have the money to pay the wages of these loan players - we are skint and bates will not stump up any more money for players/lufc, whether he's selling up or not.

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His wages would be massive

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If by balancing the books they would want a club to pay a decent amount of wages...which looks unlikely at the moment for us

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Wilson good at this level....and your point is? What are we going to pay him with???

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Any of them except Sidibe :)

AL

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Not being funny but wilson palacios is a prem player n no way would he drop down to the championship, the others maybe but him u must b dreaming, u have obviously never seen how good he plays n if stoke let him go on loan it will b to a prem team

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We dont have any money!!!!!

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He wouldn't want to leave for a smaller club and drop down a division he would want to go to a club that's going places n challenging for promotion not a club living in the past

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If they are looking to balance the books why would their players come to us, we are pot less. We have no money to pay premiership wages. We can't even sign Diouf for more that 4 months

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Smaller club?! how exactly is stoke a bigger club than us some people are just pessimistic beyond belief and wont look at fact. It is a well known fact that Leeds is a much bigger club than Stoke we are the 5-6 biggest club in England so how stoke are bigger than us in your mind baffles me...

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07 Sep 2012 11:55:07
If the buyers, who are very keen Leeds supporter,s can hang on in there, then Bates will eventually give up. They have already shown him how serious they are about this takeover and how passionate they are about the club.

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That's the trouble, KB doesn't want someone who can do the job, he needs someone who'll f**k it up so he can say I told you so.
He is a prat of the highest order.
JB

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Buisness men unfortunatly move on to other intersts, whether they are fans or not , you simply can not waste your time bashing your head against a brick wall

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The buyers are mascarading as LUFC fans as their only real passion is about making money just the same as Ken Bates. That's why we'll be lucky to see an outcome in 2012 never mind this month!

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How has anyone shown how passionate LUFC supporters they are. We've had rumoured pre takeover investment but nothing confirmed. Think they(if they exist) are business men first hence why the takeover is taking so long. These passionate supporters will be wanting to screw KB down to the best price he will be doing the same in his favour. In business I suppose we would all do the same

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The people interested in taking over Leeds are a money making business, not fans

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Its a shame the fans dont behave the same way all talking about boycotts and negativity all the time

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07 Sep 2012 10:49:07
If Bates doesn't sell the club this time around then he will be here til the day he dies. Any interested parties in the future will surely shy away, think of all the wasted millions that has been spent on legals this time around.

People who are saying 'boycott the club', whats the point? Leeds united lose income and become financially poor, WHO IS GOING TO BUY US THEN??

My love for Leeds over rides my hate for Bates, so i for one along with many others (i hope), will be there home and away all season.

MOT

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Why is he talking to buyers in the first place? its due to the dwindling crowds at elland road. you should be encouraging fans to stay away if you really love leeds otherwise you are supporting bates. do you really think he would even be talking to buyers if we were getting 35,000 every home game, no he would not! people like you need to look at the bigger picture and grow some.

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Maybe it would put off any takeover, would you want to purchase a club whose fans boycott games if they do not agree with you.

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I've never wished death upon anyone in my whole life, all 55 years but, there's always a first time.
JB

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I would get a great club cheap then spend a bit of cash and the fans will be back 40 000 a game then you will make money.

Buying a football club isn't about money you name an owner of a team who after 5 years have made money without selling everything off.J

Owning a club is about prestige

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I love football thats wot matters not this crap about k/b out if we where in the lower leagues i would still go to the games , so you need to look at the bigger pic, its dick like you that spoil the game,bet you dont go to the games anyway,mot i said mot

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Was this post written by a 12 year old? Your right I don't go to games for reasons previously mentioned...ie I will not give bates any more money so he can put it in his monoco account! Please don't call me a dick just because I dis agree with you as forums will tend to have people that do this.

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I would then say you can't be a truly loyal fan if your hapy to boycott the club. You supported the team before Bates, you've supported the team during his 7 and a half years so far and you will support him after he has gone. Not sure you've noticed (thats if you go to games), barely any people chant Bates out anymore. I'm sure multi millionaire ken bates can cope with the loss of a couple of hundred grand don't you? Its the team that will lose out not Bates.

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Boycott all the way

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07 sep 2012 10:30:03
lets hope and prey austin comes through his games with jamaica unscathed. if he picks up a knock that leaves brown as the only recognised central midfielder.
were having this debate 4 games in. what squad.? {Ed020's Note - browns struggling with a hamstring strain too atm, so fingers crossed austin will be ok}

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Young Zac Thompson will get his chance.

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07 Sep 2012 10:13:12
Norris out for 4 weeks, Diouf into the middle in the free role Byram out on the right, problem solved.

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He will be replaced by Brown, with Austin taking on Norris' role, this worked against Oxford

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Diouf DOES not play CM, time to delve into the youth or loan market, Diouf will not play CM.

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He played left and right and in the middle against Blackburn. He could do a job there but he is a far better winger.

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Put Diouf behind McCormack and Becchio, Austin at CM but further back so he protects the back four, Byram on the right.

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Brown is injured!

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Byram at r/b, pelts in austin role, austin in for norris, brown on bench.

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Would rather see thompson come in to play cm with Austin, think has played well in the development squad as is fully fit.

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My God I am upset that a 31 y/o free transfer from Portsmouth is important to my team. What has the World come to

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Leeds 2 years ago absolutely better. Howson-Johnson cores in the middle, kilkenny good quality squad player. now the quality in the middle just austin. can't believe now Leeds just become thinner, even some young players like Thompson and Byram can be considered as regular first team players. they are still under 20 y o and we so much depend on them. promotion or even play-off will be a miracle on us.

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07 Sep 2012 08:22:15
listen to yorkshire radio norris is now out for 3-4 weeks with a thigh strain so who are we going to replace him with?no takeover,no money ,no hope bates out

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Brown, Lenighan or Thompson

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Brown is struggling with a hamstring strain so that leaves us with pugh and austin

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Oh no! The squid of despair strikes again. Theres no point carrying on.

Fawksey

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Not impressed much by Norris so far anyway. give Zac Thompson a go.

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Injurie can happen at any time, seem to be more frequent and out longer when wearing a leeds shirt, why?

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07 Sep 2012 08:17:56
thanks LUFC your buyers are now interested in pompy bring it on

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Whatever mate are you bored ?

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You wish. They want to buy a team with history and a great supporter base not a 2 bit conference team.

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Haha small team in southampton thats in league one i highly doubt they'd choose that over Leeds United in the league above aswell and we have players that can play at this level you dont even have any that are proven in league one haha

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This made my morning, love a good joke in the morn.

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You can have bates

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That is funny! No one is interested in portsmouth, actually the other day I drove past that garden shed you call a ground and thought hmmm, glad we don't have to lower ourselves and come here! MOT

Mike from Poole.

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If they do, then good luck to you..... But can't see how... Our buyers are interested in the windfall of the PL,,, and Pompey wud need to be a long term investment for that particular return !!

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Ha-ha and people say the Leeds fans are supposed to be the morons?!? Why would anybody be interested in buying Pompey? You could'nt even keep the lights on in the ground properly let alone kick a football, boring fans and boring club!

The D man

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This post has made me laugh, in financial terms pompey are where leeds where 7 or so years ago, the only person who is rumoured to be interested in buying pompey out is KB.

lets be honest pompey are not a viable financial investment for anyone who wants to make money, (let alone see their investment repaid) in the next 6 years.

I am sure that you are hoping for a miracle, like a big money investment to come in, but you dont have any assets, you have a ground that needs complete redevelopment.

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LOL portsmouth dnt make me laugh u sad pathetic kid, if they r interested in that little team then its obvious they didnt have the money to take leeds over so no big deal tbh lol but to go near portsmouth at the min they would have to b barking mad

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To the original poster what a fool you look . i have it on very good authority bates is the one who is after your club . wants to do same to pompey he has done to leeds. might get you up but thats as far as you go . MOT sad act !

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