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18 Feb 2018 23:50:14
Interesting game today in many respects. Was the improvement in the second half down to the manager? If it was then we have genuine hope for the future. To me it was telling that the better players responded Pontus, Pablo, Forshaw, Le Bock, Lassoga and Anita.

Maybe they recognise someone who knows what he's doing, hopefully this is the case. Heckingbottom has a bit to work with but also has some deadwood on long contracts. Felix has to go, he is causing uncertainty and giving no confidence to those in front of him.

O'Kane is going backwards, Roofe despite his goal is too lightweight and obviously from the goal celebration only interested in himself and we need team players at the moment, I would but Alioski in the same bracket.

Sacko does nothing and adds the same. Saiz and Berardi coming back is good news and I hope that Heckingbottom gives the captaincy to either Pontus or Forshaw. So far I will give the new manager 6/10 and hopefully this time next week we will have a win or maybe two under our belts MOT

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10 Feb 2018 17:30:40
Personally thought we were unlucky not to get a point. It was clear from PH's post match comments that he has a style and type of play he wants the team to adapt to and that will take time. If he gets his way and work rate and a pressing game improves and the skills of Pablo, Saiz and Lassoga continue to show we could see a great base to build on for next season. For me Roofe needs to improve massively, to lightweight and I can't see PH putting up with that. O'Kane and Alioski will also need to put more consistency in their game and as for Sacko I have seen nothing in that man to warrant him wearing a Leeds shirt. Today the centre backs were very good as was Forshaw, Pablo and Dallas. PH came across really well in his post match interview and I am warming to him.

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1.) 10 Feb 2018 17:35:22
Agree with al of that Will! 🍻


2.) 10 Feb 2018 17:41:29
Should have been 4_0 down at half time lads let's be serious about it and not kid ourselfs. Now is it 0 in 1 or 1 in 17 for the massia


3.) 10 Feb 2018 17:50:18
You certainly don't like him do you Martyn


4.) 10 Feb 2018 18:11:05
Does it show ox? I found arragent at Barnsley and hated him from then on, find him smug. Let's see what he's like after 10 gamrs


5.) 10 Feb 2018 18:20:39
You know what will happen ox. We will put a run togeather when it mathematical impossible to reach play offs


6.) 10 Feb 2018 18:30:16
Due to ditching our previous coach, we are effectively starting from scratch again. There will be a different approach in training, different priorities to focus on, different demands on every player, a different mindset for players to get their heads around, and all since Tuesday afternoon. Tell yer what, let's blame the coach for the defeat today. Nil from one it is then! Now let's be realistic eh Martyn?


7.) 10 Feb 2018 18:32:36
I'll be happy to see us put a run together Martyn, late, or not, because that will mean the team are starting to click, and give us an idea of what to expect next season, with a few additions.


8.) 10 Feb 2018 19:00:15
Before it gets dismantled next season. No penny no lassy siaz and pontus will probably be prized away. And yea bright let's blame the coach because that's his job. If the manager of company didn't get results do you think they blame the staff? Now that's realistic


9.) 11 Feb 2018 00:32:31
Yer blaming a coach who just arrived this week?


10.) 11 Feb 2018 00:42:09
You're going to blame the gaffer after four days of coaching, really?


 

 

05 Feb 2018 20:04:34
As a life long White I have seen them come and seen them go. My "first" Leeds manager was the greatest of all the Don and so it's been down hill ever since really. Jimmy Armfield, Howard Wilkinson and O'Leary all gave me hope and a certain amount of pride as did Larry to be fair. Lately like a lot of you my hopes have been raised and dashed in equal measure. I will forever follow my team and my support will be without question, but this latest appointment really is a poor one. What we needed right now is someone of character, with experience and someone who knows this division or the premiership. What we have got is a young guy who has been hired because he has had limited success on a tiny budget and someone who will be manipulated by Orta and blamed by Orta when he fails. Why are we looking for a cheap option ! We are Leeds United, a one city club with massive support, superb facilities and the potential to be a top half Premiership club. AR said that the plan is to be a top 8 Premiership club, I can only assume that Orta is some salesman. I sincerely hope that Paul Heckinbottom ends up having a statue put up outside Elland Road but some how I think that Don will be on his own for quite some time.

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1.) 05 Feb 2018 20:25:39
Agree Will, another excellent post. Save your breath mate, this club has a cancer spreading through it, it's called Victor orta


2.) 05 Feb 2018 20:48:39
Great post, I hope AR reads it!


3.) 05 Feb 2018 20:53:29
Yep good post totally agree 👍


4.) 06 Feb 2018 03:59:42
Top post WtW. Orta is the worst thing to happen to our football club.


 

 

04 Feb 2018 10:04:18
Obviously feeling are very raw after the past few games and a lack lustre transfer window push. AR is undoubtably a very good business man and he knows the media side of things but it is clear he Is relying on VO for football knowledge along with TC. If AR calls VO into his office then VO is bound to say the players I have recommended are good enough it is the managers fault, which is why we are getting this "the players are good enough" rubbish. It is also why we have given them long contracts, another error. TC is not strong enough to go against VO. What we need now is someone strong enough to face up to him and someone with a record that commands respect. For me that would have been Pulis but that ship has sailed. Hughes or Pearson for me as I believe if Silva could be tempted he would just use us as a stepping stone. MOT

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1.) 04 Feb 2018 12:07:09
Problem is whatever way we dress it uo, for all the bright points that this season had to offer its now obvious to all that this season looks like ending in another failure. I don't think even TC believes the mantra he is spouting about us finishing in the top 6.
If AR is still a happy man at his 5 year plan and feels this is what he expected from the season then I am sure he will say so at his question and answer session with the fans. I hope he can own up to his mistake at appointing the tactical genius TC


 

 

01 Feb 2018 10:02:51
Later this month AR and VO are going to explain the clubs transfer policy and strategy. I am guessing we will hear the terms building for the future, laying foundations etc etc. The recent window for me showed either our total naivety of our current situation or a real gamble on our future. Our promotion rivals all strengthened their attacking options with proven goal scorers at this level and above Wolves - Adobe a 1 in 3 goal ratio, Fulham - Mitrovic 1 in just over 2, Cardiff- Madine 1 in 4 and Villa- Grabban 1 in 3. We have signed Tyler Roberts who has never scored a premiership goal, played or scored in the championship and has a 1 in 5 record at league 1 and 2 level. According to reports Roberts is highly rated, especially by West Brom. So highly rated that despite Rodriguez, Rondon and Robson - Kanu being in front of him West Brom go and sign Daniel Sturridge on loan. Tyler comes to our club having scored 9 goals in 44 lower league games, Kemar Roofe joined us having scored 24 goals in 56 games for Oxford and look how he has struggled at this level. Highly rated is a term that many of our new under 23 signings come with and it is this that worries me. We are gambling that promise and potential turns into consistency, skill, work rate, talent, ambition and desire in order to get us out of the toughest league in the world. We have over the years produced some great players for this club Smith, Robinson, Woodgate, Milner, Lennon, Delph, Byram, Cook, Howson and Taylor to name a few. Poor management of our club led to many of them leaving but then having good youngsters in a poor unambitious side has also led to players leaving. I genuinely hope that Tyler whacks in the winner on Saturday and that Madine misses a sitter in the 90 th minute but the long term is my worry and here is why Elliot Keebie Tom Tawio, Michael Woods and Luke Garbutt. All snatched from Leeds as they were highly rated by Barcelona, Chelsea and Everton as well as Leeds. Keebie last season got a 6 month contract at Barnsley and is having trials all over the place, Tawio is at Falkirk, Woods at Hartlepool and Garbutt is still at Everton at 24 having played just 5 times for them in 7 years. I applaud the club for its forward thinking and long term plans to get our great club back into the Premiership. But it is horses for courses and what we need to get us out of this division I'm afraid is some decent proven quality at this level and not to pin our hopes and put the pressure of expectation on young Tyler's shoulders.

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1.) 01 Feb 2018 11:56:36
Brilliant post


2.) 01 Feb 2018 12:21:39
Bloody good post Will. Nothing against Roberts, for his, and my, good I wish him all the best but I totally agree with you. The only proof of the pudding for our "ones for the future" policy is for them all to gel and start delivering now. Sometime in the future, Just give them time, is not good enough. Some of us are getting a bit long in the tooth and want to see Prem teams at Elland Road before it's too late.


3.) 01 Feb 2018 13:58:49
Excellent post Will, totally agree mate. Absolutely nothing wrong with laying the foundations for the future, But like you say horses for course and we need proven players in this division to push us on. When will this new future generation be ready for this league, will we still have our few better players at this level or will these need replacing. The future job lot will all need to step up together in that case.


4.) 01 Feb 2018 14:28:04
Good post Will.


5.) 01 Feb 2018 17:54:30
Willthewhite, the only thing we will get out of the meeting is what they won't you konw and Ibet much of it will be bull 💩


 

 

31 Jan 2018 09:06:48
With everyone's attention on the transfer window closing and whether our January has been good or bad and if VO is a scouting genius or someone who wouldn't know a Messi from a Brolin we seem to have forgotten that football wise our displays are in the main very poor. When was the last time we dominated a game ? Burton at home, then you will struggle to think of another. TC has now had plenty of time to work with the players, stamp his style of play on the team and as important get to know the players. We are an ill disciplined, mid table championship side with to many inconsistent performers and performances. I like TC but he had a weeks warm weather training extolling the virtues of double sessions etc, he knew who was and wasn't available and yet the performance was dire and uninspiring. For me now the clock is ticking regarding his tenure, we won't make the top 6 and that is obviously disappointing but in all honesty would you want to see this squad in the premiership.

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1.) 31 Jan 2018 09:13:43
Sorry guys Radz has convinced me to join his 5 year plan and it looks good, I will save 25000 or more plus 5 years season ticket cost it’s a win win, thanks Radz your Brilliant.


2.) 31 Jan 2018 10:02:59
Good post Willthewhite, totally agree fella we would slide straight back down with current squad and tbh the new u23 players probably won't be ready for 2 or 3 years so mid table mediocrity looks set for a few more years yet unfortunately unless they get rid of VO and possibly TC and bring a manager who knows what it takes to get out of the championship by choosing the right players for the job, like a few others on here I have my doubts about our coach, again another likable guy but struggling to get the best out of the players and short on tactical awareness but like I said in my initial point Orta has to be accountable for that, frustrating times ahead IMO, MOT brothers 😎


3.) 31 Jan 2018 19:41:36
Totally agree with you both Willthewhite and DJ, both posts are spot on!


 

 

 

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04 Feb 2018 22:16:50
Absolutely Shankill, I fear we will go for a manager in the last chance saloon who will kneel at the feet of VO and AR and blow smoke up their proverbial backsides in order to get the job. I fear the wally with the brolly.

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19 Jan 2018 09:36:45
Personally think he is a good signing. Not a cast off in my opinion just a player who in a Pulis side won’t see the ball as his sides bypass midfield. So basically we have a player who doesn’t fit in to long ball style of play which for me shows the way TC wants to play.

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02 Feb 2018 19:00:47
Very true PA, Wilko signed Chapman in January of our promotion season a proven goal scorer and he produced. A midfield of Strachan, Jones and Kamara along with a young Batty and Speed were never going to die wondering. Proven experience along with the naivety of youth a winning combination. Sterland, Fairclough, Strachan, Batty, Speed and Chapman all there at Bournemouth and all there when we lifted the old first division title, sorry but I don’t see that happening with our current best XI.

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