22 Sep 2024 19:41:37
Without labouring the point - we have what we have in players. Our finishing is woeful but, even with pedestrian movement of the ball out of defence, we still create from time to time. we miss far more than we score. Our decent goal scorer is Piroe. In that scenario we have to give him the service. He just needs the chances ie he needs to be in goal scoring areas of the pitch most of the time not wandering around the pitch doing 'naff all'. The only way to do that IMO is to modify the system and formation to allow that to happen without creating any more holes at the back. Is Farke up to that? Pass.

1.) 22 Sep 2024
22 Sep 2024 20:32:31
Farke will not change his tactics.

When they failed last year, he stuck with them, costing us promotion.
When the playmakers of said tactics left at the start of this season, farke used the same tactics with a new team.
When five new signings came to Elland road, creating another new team, farke stuck with the same tactics.
When it comes to subs, farke subs like for like so he can play the same tactics, whether or not they're working.

There are A LOT of similarities between Marsch and Farke; crap at using subs, one-dimensional tactics, talks a good game but says little, takes a win to prove he's a genius and everyone else were wrong to doubt them.

I hope the similarities end there, because we should have sacked Marsch in October, not persisted and then panic hired some mongoloid manager who lost every game.

2.) 22 Sep 2024
22 Sep 2024 21:30:26
Careful MOTalaw . this is wayyyy too critical of Farke . you"ll have OP to answer to

Second thoughts you'll be ok MOTalaw . its not one of my posts ??.

3.) 22 Sep 2024
22 Sep 2024 21:42:35
Why should farke

He got Norwich promoted twice, he then got leeds a promotion winning 90 points after a car crash summer

If it ain’t broke and all that.

4.) 22 Sep 2024
22 Sep 2024 23:15:51
The instistence on building a team around Piroe is honestly bizzare.

Teams generally set up in a low or mid block against us and congest the space needed for Piroe to get himself into the positions needed.

At Swans he mostly played in a front two and the teams were attacking Swans rather than trying to mitigate things defensively. He had space in that situation and that's why he performed well for them.

For us it's just not realistic considering we come up against defensive teams trying to catch us in transition pretty much every game. On top of that, he's already started plenty of games as a lone 9 last season and was thoroughly disappointing.

In 2024 he's scored 4 of his 7 goals when he's come on as a sub after the 75th minute.

He's a bench player that needs bringing on when the game is more open. That way way we get the best out of him and both he and the team benefit. Starting him only hurts our chances as he really struggles everywhere else.

Joseph has shown to be much better at everything else and helps the team function much better when he's starting.

Let us score and then happily bring him on to put the game to bed. He can be a match winner in that situation, but he is absolutely not built for starting in this set up. Not at all.

5.) 22 Sep 2024
22 Sep 2024 23:19:46
Every man and his dog was slagging him off last year and suddenly people think k things will change by starting him when we play the same tactics and historically he's played bad for us when he's started there. Makes zero sense.

You've got to utilise players correctly to allow them to play to the best of their ability. We are currently doing that with Piroe and it's working.

6.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 00:58:18
Leeds have been woeful at finishing for a long time; even in “peak Bielsa, ” we missed way more than we scored. For the last 5+ years, every striker we have had has been derided for missing and not finishing, missing penalties etc. Everyone of those strikers at one point or another (and sometimes many times) was stood up as a messiah, as the greatest thing since Alan Clarke (or probably Mark Vaduka with present company) to grace the oppositions box.

Rodrigo went through it, went from biggest waste of money to greatest and back several times.

This time last season, Piroe was the next greatest (he was scoring and had 3 in 6 games) and everyone thrilled that at last we had a “proven striker” at this level, 6 months ago Joseph was our best striker despite not playing at all! Several periods over last season, apparently, the team couldn’t play without Bamford. Towards the end of last season, 90% around here wanted them both sold…. now it’s Piroe is our best finisher and he should be starting.

Who’s he starting in front of? (I don’t think he should be at the moment, but that’s not the point) , should Farke drop Joseph, Gnonto, James, Aaronson, who all objectively, are presently more important to the team.

Personally I like Piroe and I do actually think he is a good finisher, but presently he is not consistent enough or generally is not contributing enough in this system to start. Perhaps that’s on Farke, and he’s not changing his approach any time soon.

7.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 09:33:32
Couldn’t agree more ani4, unless a striker is scoring in every game or a keeper saving every shot on goal for example, they are either a waste of money or get rid of. It’s beyond anything being remotely reasonable in my opinion, especially with us in the Championship. We are not Man City and we don’t have a Haaland.

I do see Farke frustrated atmo and that’s because he’s coaching Leeds Utd with fans who demand promotion. Last season was a disappointment but you have to consider that he’s having to rebuild a team twice now from so many player departures.
It takes time for the players to adapt to the coaches plans and gelling with fellow players. I see that already with some of the new players Bogle being one of them. He’s just out of sync reading some of the other players but that will come with a little more time.

I know time is a luxury that we can’t afford but we had the same situation last season and it didn’t really click into place until after Xmas but I am expecting Farke to get things rolling a lot sooner than then this time.

Fans frustrations will always be there because we often demand instant success and this often puts more pressure on the coach and players.

The fact is right now we are not in a bad position and the play will get better, patience is required and not knee jerk reactions.

A side note for you Baz, if you really believe the Championship has less quality than last season for teams fighting for promotion you are sadly mistaken, West Brom, Sunderland and Blackburn have all improved considerably then add Burnley and the Blades it will it probably make it a very competitive fight for automatic promotion. Quality and competitiveness will be stronger than last season in my estimation.

8.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 10:29:16
OP that is only merely your opinion nowt else.

The QUALITY of player and teams is far less this season in Champo

No teams this seasom are getting anywhere near 97 points of Leicester and 96 points of Ipswich

And I shall remind you end of season of what will become factual.

Also imo whichever 3 teams go up are an absolute shoe in to come straight back down. they would need to completely change their squads for EPL quality. not happening

That is all.

9.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 10:52:53
Great post op

Also like to throw this in the mix.

Farke gets no credit for coaching players. Belisa gets none stop praise (rightly so for this)

Yet farke made rutter look a world beater, brought grey into the team (bubs hated youth and never trusted them) and got Summerville the best player in the leauge. Early days but none of them have flown since leaving

Maybe he is a great coach and taction that deserves praise but the leeds fan base have made an baised jugement and won’t be swayed.

10.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 11:22:38
Good post that OP. Although I do think there's a little less quality in the league than last season. But not to the point where it'd be something I'd be bothered to argue over if people have a different opinion from mine. Always a tough league every season we've been in it.

11.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 11:58:15
Dill, Ani, OP……simply ??????
It’s also a good thought ‘provoker’ from Hess, in that maybe, if we did change tactics to suit Piroe, we would score more goals. We have the players to play to a different system and effectively so.
Like MoT says tho, Farke is not going to change, aaaand like Bermo says, why should he!?
Bottom line is that we are where we are, have what we have in terms of players and manager, and no amount of griping is going to change that right now. That gives the choice of just supporting what we have, or moaning til somat does change. It’s an each to their own situation, no winners, no losers, no right, no wrong, just opinions and different approaches to life.
How’s that one for psychology then!?

12.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 12:37:08
Really think Tanaka is going to be the one that will make the changes we're desperately seeking. He'll bring more tempo, cleaner progression, passes to enable us more width and chip in with some goals. Matter of time before he's in, I reckon.

Farke definitely has a tough job with all the pressure being applied, but we need to praise him for things he does well and it's fair to criticise in other areas which may not be working, but all in all it does seem we are on the cusp of something good.

I've been a little reactive in recent weeks after games and probably not the right tone in the grand scheme of things. I think he has enough to get us promoted, whilst I'm not entirely convinced of his abilities he has shown to make us defensively resolute and we can conrtol a game with a lead. I don't think it will be smooth at all or always fun to watch, so just have to accept that, be realistic and hope we do keep progressing and Farke makes tweaks that benefit the team along the way.

Promotion is the key objective right now.

Plus I've been watching Sporting CP play a lot this season so I can watch exciting football week in week out with them if we have the odd boring game ?.

13.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 13:50:55
Piroe has definitely got something to bring to the table and is probably our best finisher. But I am agreeing with Dill I don’t believe he should start games and like Dan James should be used as impact players from the bench.
I do have a disagreement with Farke in that his substitutions are too late in my opinion but Piroe’s substitution against Cardiff perhaps proves me wrong on that, still I think subs do need a bit more time than five minutes to make their impact normally.

14.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 14:55:14
So our best natural scorer AND Danny James our 2nd top scorer not on pitch

Hurrah ??.

15.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 15:02:11
Quote of month
Farke made Rutter look a world beater! ?

Just absolutely WOW!

16.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 15:50:13
Christopher ?.

17.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 16:04:12
Only look like one Chris. He did make him look good enough for someone to stump up £40M however!

18.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 16:16:57
I see what you mean Chris but hear me out

In the prem rutter was hopeless, then last year he was the most entertaining player I’ve ever seen in a leeds shirt. Yesterday one just one hand but he looked poor

Now Belisa gets credit for coaching and improving our players and rightly so, but why don’t farke get any credit for how he improved our players last season?

I don’t get that?

19.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 16:53:42
Come on Bermo pal, Rutter looked like a champo players in the champo for the few games we had with him

He never stood out on his own during games, we got.40 mill because. he it was a release, we certainly didn't get it on his MoM displays,

20.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 17:09:42
That’s fair enough Chris I honestly love ruttter. I have never enjoyed watching a player in a leeds shirt as much as him. The things he did, the way he played I loved him.

The game against Watford was a masterclass but opinions are what they are.

21.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 19:11:01
Banging my head on the wall atm. How anyone can make judgement on how Rutter was that season in the Prem is inexplicable to me. The lad got participation minutes in games we were getting tonked in. What is he supposed to do come off the bench with 10 minutes to play and set the world alight when we're 4 or 5 down ? the minute he got a sustained run in the first team he showed his capabilities. He never even got the chance to show owt in the Prem so the narrative he was poor there is one that doesn't really wash with me.

If he'd played more than 264 mins in 11 games then I'd give some credence to it. But he averaged 24 mins a game whilst being brought on in 8 games we were losing in, a lot of them badly. Under no circumstances is that a good situation to show your talents.

Context matters.

22.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 19:15:45
Sorry Chris but that's nonsense, mate. He bossed quite a lot of games last season for us. The Watford one he singlehandedly tore em apart, for example. No coincidence that when he didn't play well, the team didn't play well. He was integral to us last season. Could see that watching him and his stats also backed up what I watched. Of course he wasn't perfect, losing the ball in the middle third too much and finishing, but he was nigh on exceptional in other areas.

23.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 19:34:29
Brighton don’t buy duds.

24.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 19:39:15
Full I agree context matters and agree about the Watford hand the fact we both picked it out says wonders

Context also gets screwed for the purpose of the writer

Everyone says Belisa took over a mid table leeds. He didn’t he took over a team battling for play offs under monk, a very good side. Hecky who is a great manager for some reason wasn’t a good fit and we underperformed hence he got sacked.

Bubs then spent millions on a striker and few great loads then following season 45 million getting us up. So where’s the context there?

I agree with rutter although I said it, it’s hard to judge the lad but farke will never get the credit for coaching the players and makibg them better, which seems odd to me.

25.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 20:32:42
I do think he's coached some of our players well. Notably Cry and Rutter, James and Firpo. And the way he handled Gnonto was very good imo. Think promoting Amps and Struijk to captain and vice are high very good mo es, too. Credit to him for those. Happy he's also backing Joseph now. The Meslier situation a little puzzling, tho, but shouldn't be too much of an issue if we continue how we are playing defensively. Which I think we are capable of.

26.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 20:55:00
I seldom disagree with you Dill, but on this I do

Rutter lost the ball too much for me

I not saying he was poor, but I certainly wouldn't be putting superlatives in front of him

He has a lot to. do in this Brighton team to warrant a regular start, and so far it ain't all sunshine for him

And he's playing with far superior players there.

27.) 23 Sep 2024
23 Sep 2024 21:51:08
Agree dill
As normal a very insightful and well balanced post.

As a goalkeeper and part of the union I will back mes, the lescoter coty save and West Brom game show why he was voted by his piers as the best in the leauge.

He does make mistakes by what second tier player don’t? He hasn’t progressed as I’d of hoped when Nigel martyn himself said ‘mes is far better than o was at his age’

But he is still a great keeper at this level.

28.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 00:50:50
Errrr OP you claim ' Brighton don't buy duds"

Well Brighton fans most certainly would NOT wholly concur

Brighton too have had Victor Ortaesque recruitment clangers including these very recent striker
" duds"

1) Alireza Johanbakhsh 2018 to 2021 50 appearances 2 goals ( almost as bad as red flag JKA )

2) Jurgen Locadia 2018- 2022 35 appearances 3 goals

3) Florin Andone 2018-2022 26 appearsnces 4 goals

Brighton fans also loathed Kemy Agustien and jury is out on £40 million dosh on Georginio Rutter

1)

29.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 00:54:22
So now just a good keeper at Champo level Bermo? .

. good you came to your senses re your OTT hyperbole of Mes is World Class.

30.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 09:20:33
Funny you say Locadia Baz

That's what been said of Gio now by some Brighton fans, also calling him Leon Best mk 2

Not. my words Dill and I not counter pointing.

31.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 09:40:27
Think he's talking recently tbf, Baz. You named player bought 6 going on 7 seasons ago.

32.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 15:14:52
Yes indeed Chris

Dill if he did he would have said so .

Btw. Six years ago is recent . and those players were picking up their salaries just 2 years ago in 2022!

Wastes of money .

33.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 18:05:20
So Baz, who is not at all obsessed with OP’s posts, has gone online to do some research in a sad attempt to undermine OP’s post….? Wow. Just that. Wow.

34.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 18:21:53
3 2 1 Brighty right on queue predictably ??

OP was wrong . end of.

35.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 18:24:38
. research Brighty? . getting accurate appearances and goal stats

And? So?

36.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 20:52:49
Fair enough, that was my assumption given signings in recent seasons.

37.) 24 Sep 2024
24 Sep 2024 22:12:43
OK Dill ?.

38.) 25 Sep 2024
25 Sep 2024 08:29:29
“Nah. Can’t be bothered. ”
That’s always an option, and one I sadly use far too often on here these days.