Leeds Banter Archive September 10 2016

 

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10 Sep 2016 22:00:48
In life you get what you pay for. MC will only pay for second rate coaches and only wants to pay division one wages. Our great club deserves better in every department, we need a man of experience in charge of the football side of our club, someone who can organise it from top to bottom. For me that man is Tony Pullis. Go and get him and offer him complete autonomy to run the football side of the club with a contract that is heavily linked financially to success. I love Leeds United but right now we have to be realistic there are too many people at the club who are not up to the job but think they are. MOT.

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10 Sep 2016 22:06:03
Good post mate. Wishful thinking though!

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11 Sep 2016 00:09:31
odd post for me monk is a prem manager as swans are prem team, I love pulis, i'd also love bruce or grayson but think monk needs half a chance otherwise who would join 'trigger happy' MC's leeds?

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11 Sep 2016 01:35:48
Tony Pulis? - are you having a laugh, I know lots of WBA fans and to a man or woman they hate the ground he walks on - his football is dull and unproductive and they can't wait for him to leave-so no thanks for him being at Leeds.

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11 Sep 2016 09:03:42
Sorry BM but Swansea are only a Prem side because they sacked Monk.
Kray if Tony Pulis plays dull and unproductive football what have we been watching for the past 5 years?
Ask Palace fans about him, never been relegated as a manager, organised and experienced.
Monk had two weeks on the training ground after the Forest game and produced that performance! What did they work on then? They are his players and his tactics and system ( what ever that is)
Not good enough.

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11 Sep 2016 10:22:53
Monk was never the answer not enough experience as a manager .
This may not be a popular comment but I was hoping Steve Evans would be given a chance the influence new signing and then be given the start of the season to impress.
He has actually done well with average squads and we are average.
Could have done for Button or Bentley in goal signed Green!
We missed out on barton again one of the best players in Champ last season, we need experience and someone who creates and control midfield .

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10 Sep 2016 21:46:23
I am never in the no good get rid, Cellino camp but I do think that in his (and our) best interests Wood should be withdrawn from the (mis) firing line. Either give him one last chance against the bottom club or act swiftly now, admit enough is enough and play a different formation on Tuesday. Ensuring that there is no one out of position and there is more guile and trickery upfront. I believe the back four are coming together so am less worried there than in the past. It is now time to ditch the "favourites" and play a balanced team with more goal threat. Out of Bridcutt, Viera and Phillips we have two holding midfielders which should give confidence to the mid, front men to play with energy and freedom.

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11 Sep 2016 01:31:34
Monk has had more chances (6) than he has points (4) . He put most of this team together. Another poor showing and the party is over!

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10 Sep 2016 21:11:17
Sgt Wilkos promotion winning side only won 2 of their first 7 games.
I can't remember but were fans calling for his head?
Probably.

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10 Sep 2016 23:15:14
We only lost 2 matches and no Wilko wasn't shouted out or abused, the city and the entire Leeds support stuck together and knew something special was happening that season.

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10 Sep 2016 23:51:15
Well its a shame we aren't as one now!

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11 Sep 2016 00:10:50
different age do you think fergie would be given the time he got now? and look how that turned out.

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10 Sep 2016 21:04:17
What do you think was Mr Monk's game plan today? Noel 'love him or hate him' Whelan put it well when he said it was 'lump it over our shoulder and see what happens'. Waa he right?

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10 Sep 2016 20:33:43
For me Massimo has given Monk far more than any of his predecessor's and the signings we brought in really are an improvement on the last couple of seasons. I think we were all optimistic about our chances for the season ahead but this is evaporating and I feel Monk is out of his depth and looks as clueless as hockaday. Too leave O Kane out today I am struggling to understand and for the reason Monk gave is not making sense. But I hope I'm wrong and it's all about to come good.

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10 Sep 2016 21:20:02
Squad has improved however so have most of the other squads in the Championship, Huddersfield as case in point. Unfortunately we do not have a squad to be top six however we should be doing better and that is down to Monk for tactics and dare I say Cellino for dithering in recruiting a coach and players for the squad. Huddersfield recruited early and had a long pre-season against testing opposition and they have hit the deck running, we are still playing catch up. All at the club must take their share of the blame.

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10 Sep 2016 21:38:55
Fair point Notts.
We are weeks behind most clubs in preparation.

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10 Sep 2016 20:08:01
Another defeat we really do struggle to win at home and with that sort of form you give yourself no chance of getting anywhere near the play offs, like many I was surprised at our line up Mowatt on the left, our 3 million pound player Roofe on the bench alongside another so called key signing Hernandez. He decides not to play O Kane as he is not been around the team much! all the others have been, and they were no good so that does not matter.

Saw the highlights Christ why can't Wood head the ball, he has no pace or touch so if the big lad can't head either there is no point him playing.

We need to play 4-5-1 with Antonsson up, front back four as of today with Dallas, Sacko, Bridcutt, O Kane and Hernadez in the midfield.

We really need this takeover to happen not just because MC has been a very erratic owner but mainly he does not seem to, have the available cash to buy the players we need to get us promoted, although I do think he has stabilised the finances at Leeds which were clearly in a serious state of disarray with a lot of his family money, so I think some credit for that should be given.

We need cash to buy the 5 million plus strikers if we are going to have a chance, let's hope the Chinese are involved with mega wealth, and we try and see some light at the end of the tunnel.

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10 Sep 2016 20:06:23
I've always been a Mowatt fan as I think technically he is one our best midfielders, however, I wonder if in training Monk sees the same, so thinks he's got to play.
Therefore to accommodate him he has to play him out of position. This is no good for LUFC and no good for Mowatt.
As far as I know he hasn't signed a new contract. I think he will be off in January or the summer, probably to a better team where he will be played in his correct position and find his top form again and we'll all be saying, why couldn't be do that for us?
Sorry a bit of a long winded rant but I think what I'm trying to say is this shows a lack of technical nous from Monk.
Lose on Tuesday and I think he'll be out!

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10 Sep 2016 21:00:35
I think you are right Danum regarding Mowatt apart from maybe him being played out of position. Playing a 442 the lad hasn't got the legs to play in the middle. A 4231 with him in the centre of the three is his best role in any side imo. Two holding midfielders with Mowatt in front flanked by two of Hernandez, Dallas, Roofe or Sako and the lad has his niche. Personally i'd play Bridcutt and Viera as the two holding as they have loads of energy to compliment an attacking three ahead of them.
Should Monk change formation to accommodate Mowatt or to elicit a better formation with the players he has available?
Both i'd say.

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10 Sep 2016 19:16:23
Well never been against Gary Monk but his post match interview is a complete embarrassment and an insult to the club and to the fans. If I was MC and listened to that interview after watching that performance, I'd be telling him to pack his bags. Won't be surprised if that happens and we see the big guy returning.
Sadly, however, I continue to think this squad is way way short of being good enough to achieve more than mediocrity under any manager/ coach.

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10 Sep 2016 19:54:21
Disagree Speedyg. The personnel are there apart from striker. A big part admittedly but our defense is actually improving even though I don't like Green. Midfield has good players but is badly organized.

Monk must depart. Clueless.

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10 Sep 2016 20:30:46
George, how can you say the defense is improving? We shipped three at Forest last game back. OK we were better with the Swede today but today was just one game.
Lets hope you can say that in a dozen games from now!
I do agree that the personnel is there though, apart from a bit more experience. Lots of new players were brought in last few months but not enough with Championship experience so it will take time for the team to gel with a few players not used to the rigours of the league.
I believe we had a decent transfer window with new players, given time, who can make their mark. However, with the exception of Bridcutt and Ayling, I didn't expect much of an immediate impact from the others.
As for sacking Monk, don't be ridiculous. A manager needs time and six games is nowhere near enough time to judge the man.
Its like Rosler all over again with you and certain others!

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10 Sep 2016 21:11:57
I was proved RIGHT about Loser. Evans was a superior replacement. Cellino also said as soon as he appointed Loser he knew he was wrong man within like 48 hours.

It's not always about time Cork.

Once you display ineptitude retardation and cluelessness it's time to go. You of all people should know that!

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10 Sep 2016 22:04:12
How were you proved right George? You can judge a coach after 11 games or so? In that case some of the best managers in history would of been offed including some of our own. Revie and Wilkinson didn't hit the ground running and Wilko and Fotherby had serious cash invested in the squad by the standards of the time.
And all of a sudden, well last few weeks, you now are an appreciator of Cellino and his madcap quotes. Wex and Bermo put you in your place and all of a sudden your views deviated.
Baaahhhh.

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10 Sep 2016 22:33:37
Cork, i'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but have you listened to Monks after match interview?

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10 Sep 2016 23:09:49
I have Speedo but that is not the point. Monk is not the first to bs the facts of a game.
My point is we can't keep sacking managers because we will never know what they have to offer.
Im not saying Monk or even Rosler are the coaches to take us forward but every man needs a chance.
Maybe MC will learn the same.

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10 Sep 2016 23:14:22
Correction. No-one ever put me in my place. If you think about it carefully I've been most consistent. What I've wanted Cellino to do was spend. Up until recently he failed my barometer of reasonable investment. I therefore recommended the influx of 10 new players of better class and the buyout of GFH in the summer. Setting aside the acquisition of Grimes because he is truly awful we did acquire those 10 players (11 inc Grimes) and GFH got bought out. Don't criticize me for offering good advice to the club which they acted upon! Don't blame me for being correct, consistent and in the best traditions of cause and effect! Now run along! Toodlepipski.

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10 Sep 2016 23:48:39
OK George, calm down mate.
Im sure Cellino has done his business on YOUR recommendations.
"Don't critcize me for offering good advice to the club which they acted upon"
Narcissism at its finest!
Survivor mark 11.
Baahhhh.

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11 Sep 2016 00:18:50
well drunk so not sure on everything in post! I think monk needs time anyone calling for head can't slate mc for being tirgger happy however not heard interview and I normally agree with speedy so trust his juidgement and will swevre interview as I think it will annopy me. only thing I do disagree with is manager comment. a good manaer can make a poor team great and poor manager great team bad. look at conte, pulis, ranieri etc. I think monk will come good but this team with right manager will go up that's how important managers are.

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11 Sep 2016 07:41:45
Can't understand how you can be flipant about Monk's interview Cork. It was a disgrace and he has shamed himself and should be made to apologise by Cellino. To represent the club so badly and disrespect the fans, who are entitled to know, what your game plan or lack of one was. True other managers have tried to protect their players and not told the whole truth, but today was a new low. To say that the only people in the know are him snx his staff was insulting to everyone at the club, Cellino, the fans and the journalist who asked him the questions. He will have to win on Tuesday and keep winning to keep his job.

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10 Sep 2016 19:06:06
I fear the worst for Monk - I can almost hear Frank Sinatra "and now the end is near, and so I face the final curtain" - I just hope that if Cellino does his usual and we get a new man in that he can see what Monk can't - that Wood is just not good enough - I was rellly optimistic about this season but right now we are poor.

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10 Sep 2016 19:46:41
Totally agree Kray, I was hoping that this season was going to prove different to the last. god I can't even remember how many that have been disappointing but alas it's the same picture emerging. Poor performances, poor selections and poor substitutions, it all just sounds so familiar and as for Wood I wouldn't play him in a pub team!

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10 Sep 2016 19:50:58
I see it as a marvellous opportunity for MC kill 2 birds with one stone.

In middle of night he should enter Monk bedroom and swap his head for Chris Wood then Monk will know he's a donkey.

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10 Sep 2016 19:05:43
And so it starts. The positivity is falling to the wayside and I am in a state of confusion. We can really compete but as so many have said, I just don't get it? I wouldn't have put that starting 11 on and again the subs just don't make sense. Wood needs to be rested and we need to try something else up front roll on Tuesday 🙄.

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10 Sep 2016 19:41:16
Wood needs to be rested? More like Wood needs to be vivisected.

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10 Sep 2016 22:01:18
I was trying to be polite and maybe if he was 'rested' then he might become a super sub 😜 I think you know where I was coming from. Please don't pick on me - I am still very upset😂😂😂😂.

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10 Sep 2016 18:41:43
Bring back Tin Ribs. Immediately. I mean it.

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10 Sep 2016 18:29:54
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

-Albert Einstein.

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10 Sep 2016 19:47:40
Is that like persistently pretending to be a Leeds fan?

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10 Sep 2016 18:28:32
When I heard the team news today I was worried. Mowatt playing out of position and Wood and Antonnson up front with Bridcutt and Phillips in the middle wasn't inspiring. We were always going to be under the cosh in the middle with Huddersfield playing their particular formation. Once on the pitch -we couldn't put together any sequence of passes we were second to every loose ball and lost most of the 50/ 50s. Wood can't hold the ball up and is a poor header of the ball. Towards the end of the game there were very poor substitutions. How can Wood manage to get selected and then stay on the pitch for the whole game? No real game plan, no real energy and very little quality. On the plus side the new Swedish centre looks ok. He's at least better than Cooper. After the game Monk's interview. What was all that about? He was obviously watching a different game. On the one side you don't want to be sacking managers but he's seems clueless. The Huddersfield manager hasn't spent massively but he has produced a half decent team and you can see what he is trying to do. I can't see Monk's plan at the moment. On a final note Silvestre is at least as good as Green. I keep saying it's the worst I've seen and it's getting boring.

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10 Sep 2016 18:12:53
When Ron Shelton wrote the screenplay "White men can't jump" he must have watched Chris Wood ply his trade for Leeds United. Unfortunately this result is also down to how tactically wrong Monk got it. Huddersfield are a team playing on confidence and are well drilled in controlling possession and pressing when they do not have the ball. In Mooy they have a player who links it all together and we did not try to nullify a player which everything went through. Starting and persisting with Mowatt confused me, the two defensive midfielders were too deep and resulting in us hitting hopeful balls to the strikers. Substitutions did nothing to change the way we had approached the game which clearly was not working. Only positive for me was the centre back partnership looked solid with Jannsen being our best player. Back to the drawing board Gary.

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10 Sep 2016 17:35:29
Absolutely terrible . Worse and worse No passion No shots on target No idea.

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10 Sep 2016 16:29:04
Anyone thinking we should have kept Evans.

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10 Sep 2016 17:26:26
Yep, never in favour of Monk .
Experience of this league .

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10 Sep 2016 17:28:02
Evans would have probably got us to mid-table, however at the moment I would probably be haapy with that. Is it just me or does the Monk come across as being insipid and generally uninspiring. I don't think we are promotion candidates, however I do think we are better than our last two performances.

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10 Sep 2016 17:41:07
I thought it was harsh on him at the time wex and wanted him to stay. I will always support whoever is in charge and hope monk turns it round but let's be honest its not looking good. still doesn't know his best team and not enough passion on the pitch. mc not known for his patience and am sure we wouldn't be in bottom 3 if evans was gaffer (+ he couldn't play wooten! )

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10 Sep 2016 17:41:30
please don't any of you moan if mc pulls the trigger. some people say mc don't give anyone a chance yet these comments have been made? give him some time please rome was not built in a day. Hock was a mug and needed to be sacked five days before he was hired monk has some quality and experience and needs to be given some time I think.

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{Ed013's Note - YES! Give the man time for Christ's sake!}

10 Sep 2016 17:59:41
Insipid sums Monk AND Leeds up at the moment, wheres the fight, the passion, and Monks insistance in sticking with Wood and Green will cost him his job, he has t be the worst striker in the division, time has run out methinks, expect manager movement very soon, mostly these are Monks players so no excuses, Leeds without grit and passion is unacceptable.

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10 Sep 2016 18:11:23
I hate yo day it but I think he should be sacked. He doesn't seem to know his best team and has far too much faith in wood.

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10 Sep 2016 18:19:30
Bring him back Wex. Evans that is.

Monkey out.

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10 Sep 2016 19:18:34
Sonof, Evans would've given us mid table and stability for a few seasons which is what we want at the moment.

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10 Sep 2016 16:28:32
I said when we appointed monk I hope we lose first 6 games and he gets sack so we can get a proper manager in so whoever comes in has time to turn it around and how right I was. Get Steve Bruce or tony pulis when he leaves W. B. A and never play Green and Wood again.

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{Ed001's Note - surely it would have been better to hope you win the first 6 games and that he proves you wrong? I don't get how you could hope to see your team and manager fail, even if you don't rate an individual involved.}

10 Sep 2016 17:22:05
Ebo is just to positive for you ed.

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10 Sep 2016 17:28:38
Spot on Ed.
Only a plum wants their own team to lose to prove themselves right!

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10 Sep 2016 17:39:04
Don't get me wrong lads I would love to be wrong and win first 6 but my point is if we won a few lost a few and drawn a few he would still be in a job at least we are only 6 games in get him out now while we still have a chance to turn our season around. We need the bed manager available and that my friends is Steve Bruce.

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10 Sep 2016 17:42:18
spot on ed

on a different note I hope we lose every game to prove nothing in leeds is any good.

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10 Sep 2016 17:47:22
Support the players. Support the manager. Support the team.

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10 Sep 2016 17:51:03
Well said Ed never want to see us lose. Problem is we are going backwards. Town were better than us all over the pitch 12 midfielders and we get bullied nearly every week and lose the battle. Monk has brought 11 players to the club can people really say we are better than last year. Every season we go for quantity over quality. Green's disribution is woeful, worse even than silly vest. Grimes not good enough, Henandez is a luxury player, Roofe is going to need time to make the step up to the championship. 3 home games and 1 point to show for it. If we lose the next game it could be Monk's last.

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10 Sep 2016 18:15:59
Ebo, why would you want your team to lose?
Bruce is a big no.
Pullis will never come while MC is here, they'll always be at each others throats and Pullis wants to be in control of everything.

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10 Sep 2016 18:37:51
to be honest I am not really bothered about leeds united I just come here to get a reaction to amuse my self and leeds fans never fail to disappoint.

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{Ed001's Note - well in that case you are a lying blert and can remove yourself from the websites. If you are such a tit that you can't be honest with banter, you are not welcome. Knob.}

10 Sep 2016 21:33:38
Your best reply by a long way ED001!

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10 Sep 2016 17:02:28
wtf is wrong with our team did we even test there keeper today if we actually crossed the ball rather than faffin with it (taylor) we might do more in a game put roofe up front with antonson.

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10 Sep 2016 17:22:02
We put Green in goal, yet again, and yet again we lost.

Enough said, I think, wWTF did we even buy him?

Until Monk realises where the real weak link is then his job will always be at risk.

I can understand how it takes time for all the new players we have brought in to work together, but Green has always proven himself to be a liability and it ain't likely to change any time soon?

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10 Sep 2016 17:48:33
I don't think it's fair to blame Green for today - we didn't score!

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11 Sep 2016 11:51:21
Unfortunately not, but if Green hadn't conceded a goal we'd have at least been a point better off and Huddersfield 2 points worse off?

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10 Sep 2016 17:02:01
I fear time is running out for Mr Monk. I also think we will rue the chance of signing a good proven striker as Chris Wood is just not good enough.

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10 Sep 2016 17:22:34
That's Wood and Green, then.

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10 Sep 2016 17:23:13
I don't think Monk is helping himself. Sticking with Mowatt and Wood will cost him his job. Dallas? Hernandez? Roofe on bench? O'Kane? . Hernandez was seen as a marque signing, he has the creativity so tailor the team around him and play to his strengths. Unless Cellino has had a complete personality transplant, this isn't going to end well but it will end soon.

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10 Sep 2016 17:26:34
TIME RUNNING OUT Marco! let's not prolong this . G Monk your services are no longer needed!

PS: Simon Grayson you have a meeting with MC on Monday at 9am.

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10 Sep 2016 16:53:34
Was 100% being Monk, now it's dropped to 95% after those subs.

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10 Sep 2016 18:01:45
Was 95% behind Monk, now it's dropped to about 67.329% after hearing his interview with Adam Pope on Radio Leeds.

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10 Sep 2016 16:53:07
Oh dear Garry. Not looking like a long term job, is it.

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10 Sep 2016 16:40:12
Mark Viduka is 41 in October could be a great replacement for Chris "lumpa" Wood.

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10 Sep 2016 16:45:46
I'm 42 and have zero footie talent. Do you think I could get on the squad?

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10 Sep 2016 17:14:47
Probably mate but would you want to be in that team?

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10 Sep 2016 17:24:06
I am 60 at the end of the month, I'm sure I could stand between the goalposts and do nothing all game and would cost a lot less than Green?

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10 Sep 2016 16:19:02
Wood should never play for Leeds again shocking performance again.

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10 Sep 2016 17:07:12
We could have played all day and not scored! I'm afraid that despite our defensive frailties it will be an ongoing lack of goals that will be our downfall. If the best option available to us is Doukara I think it could be a very difficult season.

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10 Sep 2016 16:28:54
Monk see's something in this carthorse that we don't, crap total crap.

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10 Sep 2016 15:52:59
Half time stats. Possession at 34% for the home team! Jesus this wants to be some half time team talk!
Hey lads, we're trying a different tactic for the 2nd half. Go out there and TRY!

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10 Sep 2016 16:08:13
Whilst we're at it. Monkey boy won 36% if his games (all competitions) whilst at Swansea. Just saying is all ;-)

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10 Sep 2016 16:22:38
I think we will come back and win 2-1. If we don't and lose this game Monk will be packing his kit and heading out the door. I know we needed time to Gel but this is REDICULOUS!

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10 Sep 2016 16:32:35
Agree hooks.

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10 Sep 2016 14:55:10
One glaringly obvious omission from the squad, Dallas, again. Has he picked up an injury or does Monkey magic just not fancy him?

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10 Sep 2016 17:28:31
I have to say I am fast losing faith in Monk, unfortunately if Cellino sacks him then any new 'coach' will be faced with a daunting task of coaching players that he has probably never even met, let alone coached before?

This is beginning to look like Warnock all over again?

For once I don't think anyone can blame Cellino, he has bought into players for Monk and trusted in his judgement, if that trust isn't repaid anytime soon fear we will be luck to get out of the bottom half of the table before xmas.

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