Leeds Banter Archive December 11 2020

 

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11 Dec 2020 23:04:40
Now is the time for Bielsa to show that he truly deserves Manager of the Year title. Rally the troops, be ruthless and get back to winning ways. It's no good being told "well done Leeds, you deserved more". Today we cannot even claim that faint praise.

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12 Dec 2020 00:02:40
Indeed. The Newcastle game is now HUGE in the context of our season moving forward
Praying that Pablo plays.

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11 Dec 2020 23:04:07
Wonder what the odds are on an Andy Carroll hat-trick?
Bruce has probably already got his name filled out on the team sheet.
Maybe we need to play Struijk at left back, at least he has some height.

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12 Dec 2020 00:04:39
Yeah good shout Struijk has height and hopefully Llorente actually will be available in a week or 2.

January window recruitment needed.

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11 Dec 2020 23:00:19
on the subject of set pieces. We will have to devise a system to defend or hope that Koch/ Llorente are good jumpers because I don't think either of them are anywhere near 7 feet. Maybe bulk them both up or I can see them being bullied by some of the Prem forwards. I find it strange that no one (its not a new phenomenon) has yet to tighten up our set piece performance. I did not favour spending in January but now I certainly think we need to reinforce at the back, a good (tall) left back as No 1 priority followed by a skilful midfielder (Rique Puig, or sim. ) and lastly, if no money left we should start feeding some U23s in. Give them a few minutes here and there. Starting with one of the strikers.

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11 Dec 2020 22:56:42
Let's see if there is a reaction, performance and more importantly a win against Newcastle.

Need to be much, much better against Newcas. For me it's a MUST WIN and Pablo must be involved.

We are making deja vu mistakes, conceding almost 2 goals a game and no sign of remedying achilles heel of set plays under Bielsa.

Question that I asked last week even more pertinent : Are there 3 teams that Leeds will finish above?

Gutted .

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12 Dec 2020 00:02:13
As I said Baz, 7 points from 15, now 7 from 12 before the FA Cup Tie. That would give us 21 after 16 games. 42 should be enough so another 21 from 22 games. Definitely achievable, but 3 points on Wednesday would lift everyone. Regarding Pablo, I would have liked to have seen him get on tonight. Could have come on instead of Robert's and pushed Rodrigo upfront.

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12 Dec 2020 02:03:03
Absolutely LUFC blooming nonsense that Roberts comes on instead of Pablo . should have kept Bamford on and brought Pablo ( not Costa ) on for Harrison.

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11 Dec 2020 22:45:20
So predictable and so, so poor. I said before the game we were weak at the back and would be suspect at set pieces. We were. in situations like that don't give away silly free kicks. Stupidly we did. Cooper completely out his depth defensively. Even when he was in the lower divisions. Poor conversion rate. Poor with our attacking set pieces. Still say 15th to 17th is possible but will be hard. Bielsa team play good football but lack the cutting edge in the higher leagues when they are sussed and defensively they are no hopers. Without Meslier and some very good luck we could have easily have conceded five or six. We play box to box ok but that's it. poor defense plus poor conversion rate equals a relegation battle. Bielsa is good but not God.

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11 Dec 2020 23:12:08
Nothing like a glass half empty eh Hess?
Have a drink and cheer up, itโ€™s not as bad as you think.

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12 Dec 2020 05:05:57
Yes it is. Cooper was a set piece disaster in the lower divisions. With him the only real option at the back we're in trouble.

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11 Dec 2020 22:29:47
Well beaten for me lacked ideas up front no good when you can't defend set piece after set piece, some very poor performances from several players tonight possiby worse performance of season where starting to look like a bottom 6 club now another home game without a win doesn't bode well for entertaining the Geordies next week we'll be looking over our shoulder now games will get uncomfortable to watch.

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11 Dec 2020 22:21:12
The biggest disappointment for me this year so far is Harrison. He has his window to shine this year, however over last few games has struggled even to get a cross in. He got totally bullied last week against James and was non existent tonite.

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11 Dec 2020 22:31:52
A tad unfair, been one of our better players until the last 2 weeks.
Very poor today and at chelski.

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11 Dec 2020 22:33:55
the biggest disapointment is how predictable it all is. how we see it coming from a mile off. followed closely by every set play against us.

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11 Dec 2020 23:37:42
Agreed with the set pieces, Bielsa does need to address this problem and take it more seriously. I think the most disappointing part about tonight was that we were not able to keep possession of the ball, we gave it away far to frequently. We lacked speed on the break, you could see tapping the ball side ways in a slow build up was completely inaffective,
I donโ€™t mind losing, as we will in this season in the Premiership, itโ€™s just how we lose that Iโ€™m bothered about and that was a very poor showing tonight.
Looking for some reaction against Newcastle.

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11 Dec 2020 22:13:52
Last 2 games we get the lead then get beat, not good performance tonight, they deserved the win.
Our defense is shocking, can't defend balls into box, has been an issue for past few seasons and bielsa not resolved this huge issue.
We never look likely to score from our corners and our forwards not good enough
27mil for Rodrigo looks a bad investment, he is poor, is it because where he's playing or just not a goal scorer.
One win at ER is a worry, maybe needs fans back to help.
IMO, tonight we had too many players not performing, thought alioski, klich, cooper, Rodrigo, Harrison and costa all off it. Why no Pablo on with 30 to go for klich or Rodrigo.
It's a worry as getting dragged down, survival is the main thing and better players in Jan or the summer.

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11 Dec 2020 22:34:31
survival is a big worry unless Fifa rule out corners I don't see how we can do it.

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11 Dec 2020 22:09:57
Worst game yet I've seen Leeds play, everyone absent, Dallas very poor, Cooper championship quality best on the bench, Raphinha and Rodrigo poor. Harrison been off the pace for uple of games, Costa no impact. why take Bamford off for Roberts, surely bring Hernandez on on for Bamford and Rodrigo upfront? Bewildered?

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11 Dec 2020 22:34:48
look tired.

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11 Dec 2020 22:37:39
Must be a new fan of that's the worst you've seen.
Seen way way worse over the years!

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12 Dec 2020 00:05:11
Hereford away!

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11 Dec 2020 22:09:09
Very disappointing defeat, although not surprised by it against a good team in West Ham.

22 goals conceded in 12 games! only one team West Brom have conceded more. This is becoming a huge concern.

Thank god for those 3 points at Everton away win.

I believe next game against Newcastle is now a must win for Leeds really need to collect 3 points at home.

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11 Dec 2020 22:17:52
IMHO, Jarrod Bowen was a missed opportunity last season. Hope he doesn't score against us. But that would be the "Leeds" thing to do of course. Normally, I'd fancy our chances v Wet Spam, but I feel it's not going to go our way. However. on the plus side, they have the tactical expertise, of Moyes. who I don't rate.

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11 Dec 2020 22:26:36
Did you win ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿฅฑ.

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11 Dec 2020 22:02:05
three things to note from that defeat.
no sign of Pablo. Have we seen the last of the great man.
Costa came on and did his claim no good whatsoever. Beef up Poveda and play him every week.
No attacking on the bench if Roberts is the option.

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11 Dec 2020 22:09:45
love costa but agree tonight he was poor. but then other than ailing and the keeper who wasn't useless.

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11 Dec 2020 22:14:17
is it time for belisa out yet? I think so

another two goals on set plays. the guy is a mug and will take us down.

I don't mind losing to Chelsea but we are better than West Ham. for me only rice over Phillips makes our team and most would disagree and of course anyone in West Ham (including the wives and mothers) over league 1.sorry league 2 Liam

so we have the better players. and apparently the better manager (laughs historically till he cries) yet they have beat us and let's be honest out played us

so here is template to beat leeds and the top 3 best managers in the world

step 1 sit back

step 2 get a corner or set play

step 3 win

yes it that easy folks

and for those who said. belisa knows better than you

know he don't I know soukez is a danger at set plays belisa don't he puts Dallas on him

I also know league conference north division 3 Liam ain't good enough

three years he had to get rid of Cooper, three years he had to make us defend set plays better than a year 8 girls team

but he ain't because he don't know better than me

time to get rid. thanks for the memories but we can be losing to weaker teams like West Ham down to set plays alone.

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11 Dec 2020 22:20:13
Pablo MUST play some part against Newcastle in a must win game for Leeds.

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11 Dec 2020 23:40:13
Bermo as you know I also of the belief for a very very long time Liam's not good enough, what more needs showing to otherson his ability, is my question? Luke saved his arse twice tonight also not withstanding Liam's own blunders,

Nice dude : yes he is
Prem defender : no he ain't

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Although not alone in being poor tonight, but Liam is alone In the sense that he has not improved in the premiership, but sadly we are stuck with him in this tricky spell

Yes he will have a good game soon, and people on here will be letting us know so, but overall Liam needs replacing and hopefully it happens soon.

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11 Dec 2020 22:01:29
Really poor flat perfomance!
Kp, Ayling and Meslier only players performing to PL standard!

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11 Dec 2020 22:16:09
Err did you see their first goal?

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11 Dec 2020 22:01:10
Donโ€™t really know what to say about that. Just awful! Quite possibly the worst game Iโ€™ve seen us play in quite a while. I think there was only KP who got more than a 3 out of 10 score. We were lucky that they didnโ€™t rack up 6 or 7 goals.

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11 Dec 2020 22:23:33
Poor effort tonight, on that showing be lucky not to be in the relegation places come the end of the season. On our day with all our players fit we can match most teams, lose one of two players and we are struggling. Losing becoming a habit.

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11 Dec 2020 22:00:00
I say again too many players not good enough for prem. Need big centre back. Need prolific striker. Need quality midfielder. Passing poor. Defending poor. Lack of ideas and bad choice of pass. Players looked tired again after an hour. Going to be a long season unless we improve quickly me thinks.

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11 Dec 2020 22:12:07
sorry disagree its all on the manager

who at West Ham is better than our players?

one manager who is good had a game plan and got his players playing the other coach got a plan a that is not working and is easy to pick things apart

also dare a say we look tired. unlike a belisa team to get tired. said before less murder ball more corner ball.

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11 Dec 2020 22:22:54
Mike 55 fully agree mate, major investment in January other wise it could be to little to late,

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12 Dec 2020 07:37:27
Bermondsey sorry disagree all of them mate, players look lost give the ball away every time canโ€™t score, canโ€™t defend we will be very lucky to stay up, next two games we wonโ€™t win, keeper was the only one out there that did anything.

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11 Dec 2020 21:59:34
How long before someone on coaching team realises we struggle to defend corners and free kicks?
We huffed and puffed as usual without creating much and hardly tested keeper, got overrun in midfield. Just lacking that bit of magic to spark us into life.

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11 Dec 2020 21:59:33
I wish Bielsa would recruit a set pieces coach. asap to help him out, man to man marking for Leeds isn't working # zonal

Conceding neariy 2 goals a game on average.

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11 Dec 2020 21:58:20
Very naive giving away cheap free kicks and corners when we have a makeshift back four and they have bigger players. Would have liked to see pablo rather than Roberts. Hey ho live and learn we go again next week.

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11 Dec 2020 22:12:55
no ox we live. belisa never ever learns. that is just not his way. he ain't learnt in three years. he won't start now.

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11 Dec 2020 21:57:00
Awful
Worst performance this season, didn't deserve anything
Could of been 6 or 7
So many poor performances, thought the half time subs were a positive but Robert's for Bamford OMG,
Been positive in defeat before, but tonight was a shambles.

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11 Dec 2020 20:56:03
Yes, not happy. Need to get a hold of Bowen and benrama . Nervous when Alioski involved. Just need to tighten up our passing a bit. Maybe bring on. Poveda and pablo for Harrison and Klich.

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11 Dec 2020 20:31:54
Achilles heel again, can't defend corners.

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11 Dec 2020 21:43:26
At the rate we will be fighting to stay up very poor very poor, to changes made but no better, we do need a striker and this must be got in the next window, or we could be looking at another 16 year in the crap league.

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11 Dec 2020 21:54:58
Iโ€™m sure someone said we canโ€™t defend crosses?

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11 Dec 2020 20:27:13
Eh, what a surprise, we concede from a corner
Early thoughts are we are playing poor
Harrison, klich poor
Passing poor
First touch poor
Hopefully this early rant will come back to bite me on the arse.

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11 Dec 2020 21:16:42
Luke's saved coops bacon twice also Richie, gianni's delivery very poor also, hence bubs hooking him, Luke has taken to the big time, big time ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ love luke.

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11 Dec 2020 21:33:41
Helda Costa Is a FORKING WASTE OF MONEY! How is he on before Poveda!

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11 Dec 2020 22:03:33
Sorry no, Richie. Rant well on point.

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11 Dec 2020 20:14:19
Great to be one up early on. Bowen looks dangerous for them, Alioski needs to be on his mettle.

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11 Dec 2020 19:18:50
Pablo ๐Ÿ’œ is back!

and on the bench:

the bench immediately looks much better quality with Pablo on it.

. hopefully Pablo gets some game time and scores or assists ๐Ÿ’œ.

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11 Dec 2020 20:11:24
Good to see, let's hope things are sorted now.

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11 Dec 2020 17:33:47
Leeds 3-WHU 1.

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11 Dec 2020 11:53:15
I'm going 5-2 tonight. Serious prediction Anyone better that?
Got it right last week so on a roll.

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11 Dec 2020 16:09:08
I think another big defeat

West Ham have a proper manager, will take us apart with set plays and speed of counter attack

shame as we have the better players, play the better football but I fear again it will be a case of the better manager beating the better coach

4-1 again I reckon.

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11 Dec 2020 19:20:19
Bermo

Get back in the hot tub of hope. You were doing so well

You refer to Moyes as the better manager, is that inversely based on the fact the Bielsa has been nominated for a world manager award, whilst Moyes hasn't?

Or is this some higher thinking in which your dislike of Kalvin Phillips is opposite to that of EVERY Premier League pundit, manager, and the England manager so therefore Moyes is superior because he has Declan Rice
You kinda of catch me out with your modern day thinking sometimes.

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11 Dec 2020 19:37:05
Proper Manager?
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.

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11 Dec 2020 08:09:53
mornin siblings, seasons greetings to one and all. The rollercoaster continues and I am just loving life back where we belong and entertaining the nation. Sorry, but just can't criticise Bielsa for anything, people believe in god and they have never seen the entity, where would we be without him and Radz? Its all simply magic and uniquely Leeds, we are the prodigal son returned. Keep the faith and enjoy the ride bruvvers an sisters, up the Whites and down the eggnog x.

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11 Dec 2020 08:28:07
Good post and agree with the overall sentiment.

However there is one very important aspect in matchplay that certainly warrants improvement and criticism; even Bielsa in his most recent interview admitted he hadn't yet found a solution to solving it : namely defending set plays and corners ( and indeed Leeds scoring from them as well) .

They are a very important part of the game!

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11 Dec 2020 08:32:20
Good post vid. Certainly true itโ€™s great being back and weird that everybody loves us. Itโ€™s all down to biesla and radz for sure.

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11 Dec 2020 09:16:22
Absolutely Baz, but everyone has weaknesses and makes mistakes, even god, I mean look at the duck billed platypus. No player or team can go out and play brilliantly for 90 minutes every game. Bielsa gets more right than wrong otherwise we would still be a mid championship team going nowhere, he is only human, but he, the team and the club are my infatuation so its all good by me :)

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11 Dec 2020 09:34:44
And likewise absolutely Vid totally agree with that Bielsa's strengths far outweigh his weaknesses.

God bless.

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11 Dec 2020 16:10:32
very true vid and love your posts and feel good optimism

as you said even god makes mistakes hence putting our balls on the outside and making women. well women.

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11 Dec 2020 22:18:18
Seasons greetings vid, nice cheerful post mate on this gloomy winters morning. All the best to all Leeds fans.

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Review Of The Day 11th December 2020

11 Dec 2020 07:39:19
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 11th December 2020

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