Leeds Banter Archive July 11 2012
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11 Jul 2012 18:43:06
Just been looking at Sheff Wednesday news now and hardly anything on there about David Norris as they look to be signing three other midfielders in Portugal! So I guess it looks more likely Norris will sign for us! Great professional.
ConnorMOT!
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Thats because Norris's are easy to come by.
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11 Jul 2012 18:40:19
at last a decent keeper back four taking shape midfield
ongoing could do with a proven striker alongside
bechio it is like watching paint dry but neil is getting
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all we need is the takeover to give neil a transfer fund
to finish the squad
good times on the way ? i hope
martin mot
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Atleast with paint theres some time scale and you get a say in what the end product will look like.
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11 Jul 2012 18:23:43
Peltier, Norris & Varney to follow Kenny with the team shaping out to be like this:
Kenny
Peltier Lees Pearce Drury
Snodgrass Norris Green Varney
McCormack Becchio
Still reckon we need another defender like a sweeper who can play anywhere, another striker maybe Cox? And another quick winger to complete our squad.
ConnorMOT!
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I disagree...we need a lot more than just a few players. We need 2 more strikers, 2 centre mids, a left winger, an RB, a CB and a utility def plus another GK to challenge if Lons leaves. If Snods leaves then add yet another winget to that list. I make that 9-10 needed desperately!
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11 Jul 2012 18:14:12
Warnock said he's playing the same tactics, reckon he'll also play 4-2-3-1 again.
GK:Kenny
RB:Peltier
CB:Lees
CB:Pearce
LB:Drury
CDM:Green
CDM:Norris
RAM:Snodgrass
CAM:McGugan/McCormack
LAM:Varney
ST:Becchio
unless he plays norris CAM and buys a CDM
What do you think?! Replys:)
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I think we can do better than Becchio to be honest...
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11 Jul 2012 18:10:24
Neil warnock is not going anywhere now paddy kenny is here
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11 Jul 2012 17:37:02
Good solid signings in Pearce and Kenny I hope our next one will be Zak Whitbread!
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Am sure the warlock will going back to QPR for @ least 1 maybe 2 more players.
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Def be just what we need
Free as well
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11 Jul 2012 17:07:50
because kenny has signed today I now believe all comments on here are gospel! ;)
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11 Jul 2012 17:04:11
Good of Leeds to allow Aidy White to train with us presumably for free.
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Might even let him play with us if he likes, too.....
... he is still a Leeds registered player, I believe?
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I'd kick the greedy little s##t out
Let him join a gym if he wants to train
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11 Jul 2012 16:52:17
Something puzzling me about this takeover... If its who it's claimed to be then why so long for due diligence.
Now I'm not saying just because he's got 3.8 billon he should throw his money away to papa but if its his lifelong Leeds dream to own them wouldn't you just give the smurf seventy million, clear all the mystery debts off and kick the old git out.
Btw, I think Kenny's a good signing as are he other additions. We'll always score goals but looking at last season you'd say we'd also concede more. Tough league and a case of winning the ball in midfield and not conceding being the key to getting out of it. Takeover or not I still think we'll be top two or I'll eat my other cat.
Hopefully we'll get THE news we've been suffering over in the next couple of days.
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Even at that, due diligence is still an important part of any business transaction of this stature. I'm sure the buyer, if it is the Baharians as rumoured are still at the head of a consortium and have an extensive legal team handling everything for them. Hopefully we get some news soon though.
MOT
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Complicated deal I expect - any astute businessman/woman would want to know who owned the ground (as in who really owned it, not the stock response of The Teak Trading Corporation registered in the BVI). There is the potential to be stitched up with exorbitant rents after the current lease expires so if it were my money I'd want to tie a deal for the club to a deal to buy the ground & training complex or extend the lease from 25 to 999 years. No one got rich by failing to be diligent and letting their heart rule their head.
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Need to wait till the 12th, then we owe the creditors nothing
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The stumbling block/slow progress is almost certainly down to the ownership of ER & TA. I suspect both grounds will or have been sold to the investors but once again with confidentiality agreements over previous ownership ensuring nobody actually finds out who previously owned them.
Either way let's hope it's sorted soon.
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I suppose that not paying 70m without undertaking due diligence is part of how he achieved 3.8 billion in the first place
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He is a member of a family with combined wealth of 3.8 billion, but has no strong position in the family. i'm sure everyone here has that cousin who is always wanting to borrow a fiver. bet that's him.
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3.8 billion what? grains of sand, camels, shekels?
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11 Jul 2012 16:45:37
do you think kenny could only be signed at the sale of clayton?? if so nothings changed!!
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Actually, if nothing had changed Papa Smurf would be buying more bricks and mortar - durrr....!!
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Until the takeover is complete, that's exactly what's happening. That's why we sold Clayton cheap. NW didn't want risk Kenny losing patience and going elsewhere.
The money for Varney &/or Norris will come from the sale of Lonerghan.
When/if the takeover is announced it will be very interesting to see the calibre of player associated with us then.
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I dont mind, least he wants to play for Leeds
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He can't buy any more bricks & mortar - he's mortgaged the season ticket sales for two years, our only remaining asset...
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11 Jul 2012 16:41:11
Still hopeful that Jordan Rhodes might be signed.
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Dream on. Dj Campbell has a much cooler name anyway.
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I wish but I doubt it all we will be seeing is another 3 to 4 players that are average like Varney Norris peltier and ?
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Prefer beckford
Proven at this level and a Ledgend in my eyes
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11 Jul 2012 16:25:37
I am surprised that bates is giving warnock money to spend! Either that or the takeover is already complete. Either way, welcome Paddy!
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ORRR we used the clayton money which is highly likely1
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Yes but bates rarely uses the money earned. Gradel, howson, etc...
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11 Jul 2012 16:25:05
when will the new squad numbers be announced? cant see too many changes from last year, but surely kenny will be number 1 as lonergan will be leaving (i expect). pearce should be number 5 as obrien is leaving. rodgers i think should change from number 6 to something better.
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I'd love Beckford back at number 9 green 16 dury 4 kenny 1 perce 5 .
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11 Jul 2012 16:02:40
paddy is an amazing keeper remeber his peformance against man city in the lst match, he let the 2 past him at the end because qpr were stayed up and didnt want utd to win the leugue!
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But did you see his performance against Chelsea, if youre gonna use his better performances youve gotta look at his mares aswell
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His mare sits nicely between Blackpool 5 (Rachubka) & Forest 7 (Lonergan), but with far greater opposition! Otherwise he broke the QPR record for the most clean sheets JH
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Lonergan was more of a poor defence which led to goals he couldnt do anything about, most of them were rockets, Rachubka only techinically conceeded 3, but all his doing
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11 Jul 2012 15:13:15
so peopleno takeover yet but i beleave it will happen
so kenny has just signed who do you think will be next peltier varney norris or all three of the heard a rumour bout milkail smith from brighton aswell as a replacement for ross..
what are your thoughts as well ed? {Ed045's Note - I think it's running closer and closer to being completed, Peltier will join us, as will Norris and Varney, I also think we will end up signing DJ Campbell. Just my opinion.
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All ways liked milkail smith would have him at Leeds in a hart beet
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RB is key to replace next
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Agree Ed - possibly Buzsaky also...
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Man city v qpr good 1 paddy boy he obviously knew he wanted to come to leeds!!
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11 Jul 2012 14:56:21
I can't understand for the life of me why we're signing all these mediocre players with the exception of Pearce great signing if we're gonna be taken over we would be able to attract a lot better signings. I know they're are limitations around how much Championship clubs can spend but we all know they're will be ways around it so why don't we reach for the stars
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Well if we get taken over these players we are signing at the moment are better than the ones on the transfer list .
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Because these players are workhorses. Suits Warnock style of play and what you need to get up. Did Southampton have silky skilled midfield players you were purring at the beginning of last season? You just need a solid back four, a midfield which can keep a grip on the game, wingers who take on and beat their full-backs all day long and strikers who know where goal is. Warnock is old school 80s style use the wings type of manager. A better man's Howard Wilkinson in my opinion.
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Looking at the YEP's breakdown of the contract status of the firat team squad, we probably need a dozen new players when departures and uncertainties are taken into consideration. If we could keep White and Snodgrass, superb, however Neil needs to act fast in new faces or spend early season developing the side and dropping points. I hope are youngsters are ready to step up in the interim.
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Give it a rest the signings haven't even played a game yet give the lads a chance
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Trust in Warnock. Some of the freebies are good players who have let their contracts expire. They would command decent fees if they had 2-3 years left on their contracts.
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And wich championship team do you manage? warnock is a very good manager and i for 1 trust his judgement. and paddy was his main target so for me he must be the man for the job MOT
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Wilkinson won the title - Warnock never did and never will. How does that make him 'better'?
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Gotta love people who put the team down before a balls even been kicked, loyal support there, Drury, Green, etc are good players at this level which is what we need, but then again i forgot you are expecting Messi
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11 Jul 2012 14:30:01
for some reason i highly doubt warnock will leave as he has just brought in his pal kenny
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Warnock never was going anywhere....
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11 Jul 2012 14:29:44
Paddy has now signed its on SN hopefully his goalkeeping is going to be better than his timekeeping;)
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11 Jul 2012 14:01:17
Hope your guys takeover goes through now ours has. It would be great for both us snd Leeds, the two biggest clubs in the league to be battling it out for the championship. Good luck (Nottingham Forest fan) {Ed045's Note - Nice to see a bit of sportsmanship! Good luck to you too.
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This is the guy that made that bitter comment further down the page. And i'd like to apologise for that. Living down south isn't a good life for a Leeds fan and it has made me bitter, especially over the last few weeks
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Echo Ed.
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I have made no other post further down the page. This was my first and last post on the Leeds rumour site.. It was merely a good luck message from 1 football fan to others. I have no malice towards any club other than D*rby county. See you at Eland Road on Sept 22nd, Maybe it wont be so one sided this time round ;-)
Again Good luck with your take over
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Nice touch true football fan who sees it through a proper fans eyes....we both deserve it after a couple of tough years ...kevlufc.
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To the Nottingham fan.
Thanks, I think the second poster on this thread was referring to himself being the bitter poster further down the page, not you, but he could have worded it a bit better. I am sure all Leeds supporters are resectful of your sentiments, it's a nice touch. Cheers
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I actually meant that I was that person
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In all fairness i cant stand Derby either lol poor manager living off his dads name
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11 Jul 2012 13:36:18
So I come on now 130pm expecting great news for my club, but what do i get................ NOTHING !!
I am getting depressed again, just waiting for them now to say this so called takeover has fallen through, and thats it our season will be over before it starts. ONLY thing that keeps me believing is the fact WARNOCK has stayed Gj
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Ok I take it back Ed LOL Paddy has signed my moaningn must have worked Gj {Ed045's Note - you're forgiven! lol
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Ever the optimist as usual Gj
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11 Jul 2012 13:16:45
Maths today, how many million in a billion? Answer one thousand, Bahrain takeover estimated wealth 3.8 billion so that's three thousand and eight hundred million, and he's a Leeds fan.....just think of that!? Actually maybe best not too!
Mot
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And just where did you conjure this figure up from? Dream on....
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Forbes list says he has a wealth of 3.8bn but it is believed he is buying leeds as head of a consortium
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He nor anybody from Bahrain even appear on the Forbes list, suggest you check exactly who it was that has £3.8b, because it is is not Shaikh Abdulrahman bin Mubarak Al-Khalifa! whoever he is?
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Not on the Forbes list I just looked on it doesn't.
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That's a big piggy bank.
We can up players wages from £7 an hour to £7.25 per hour, that might just keep Snoddy.
JB
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How many million in a billion. Answer 100 if you're a yank. And the Forbes list is American....
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11 Jul 2012 13:13:00
So where is the much publicised 1pm Paddy Kenny news?
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Try the OS mate.
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Original poster here - yep I see it and am happy about it, just got fed up with so many people spreading false details over the past few weeks!
Just hope we can stop the 'Kenny is signing xxx Fact posts now......
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11 Jul 2012 12:56:38
anybody else remember last season when players came back for pre season and were joined by michael brown, wonder if a new signings (apart from kenny) will be unveiled today!
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How can one disagree on a fact that happened a year ago?
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Its disagreeing that that will happen!
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11 Jul 2012 12:48:54
ED, if you were to look for one specific type of striker what would it be? a strong hefty striker, like say, yakubu, or someone like, theo robinson who we have previously being linked with - Joe {Ed045's Note - I think we need a pacey finisher to link up with Becchio, someone that knows where the goal is and is quick footed and minded enough to run in behind.
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Agreed Ed
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Sounds abit like beckford to me ed lol {Ed045's Note - haha would be a great signing IMO!
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11 Jul 2012 12:36:16
New pictures of the first training session of the year include none other than much speculated about Ross McCormack, so as of yet it seems he has not managed to find a move away from Elland Road and that he could well be biding his time, waiting for a new and improved contract should the takeover be complete.
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Same goes for Aidy WHite, I would think (no sorry - HOPE!)
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11 Jul 2012 12:07:41
It's official we are being taken over Fri 13th to Sun 15th by jehovas witnesses. Just had the flyer pushed through my door, big convention at Elland Road. Can,t see that going down too well if Sheikh whoever and his clients are signing a deal at the same time in lens old office. May explain some of the preparations/activity at the stadium
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11 Jul 2012 11:09:00
I'm getting depressed now.
The last time Sheikh Abdulrahman bin Mubarak Al-Khalifa tried to buy us in 2004 he had problems raising the money, his partners at that time were reported to have been 2 Saudi Businessmen and an Asian based company. He then tried to raise the funds in London to with no success.
So basically, he is not a well known member of the family, he has not managed to get himself a position in government unlike most of his relations and he can't even persuade his own family to invest in his scheme (track record?).
Those people dreaming of Man City type riches probably need to wake up now and breathe in a whiff of realism, it looks like NW's current purchases are probably all we can afford.
I have this picture flying round my head of a Bates type figure in Arab dress on a threadbare Camel (borrowed) .... Please tell me I am wrong.
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I think whoever takes over from KB has a fair amount of money so can give NW more money to spend on transfers (although £2.50 would be more than KB spent) but I think your right, whoever takes us over isn't going to be mega rich, i.e. multi millionaire not multi billionaire.
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11 Jul 2012 10:58:28
Published on Wednesday 11 July 2012 10:31Reports in the Middle East have put a name to the mystery man they believe to be in pole position to buy Leeds United.Gulf Weekly reports that the group of Middle East investors, with links across the region, is headed by Bahrain’s Shaikh Abdulrahman bin Mubarak Al Khalifa.
The report, from the Bahrain-based newspaper, goes on to say that the Shaikh is a lifelong supporter of Leeds and was previously linked with a failed takeover of the club in 2003.
According to the newspaper, friends of Shaikh Abdulrahman say he is currently visiting Europe and is not available to comment.
In 2003 he told reporters: “I fell in love with the club when I was 11-years-old when Leeds played Chelsea in the 1970 FA Cup Final.
“Leeds mean everything to me, I was born to support them. Those who are closest to me, my friends and my family, know what Leeds United mean to me.”
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11 Jul 2012 10:55:11
Shaikh Abdulrahman bin Mubarak Al Khalifa big leeds fan,hopefully he and his mates have got piles and piles of cash to invest in our great club
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They didnt the last time they tried to buy us lets hope he has won the arab lottery
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11 Jul 2012 09:55:51
Could it be that we are not being taken over. The choice was between forest and us. The decision was made weeks ago and it suited the club to keep the rumour alive for various reasons.
1 to keep NW at the club
2 to make the club more attractive for cheap players and loaners to come to the club.
3 to keep the fans reasonably happy for a while, keeping them off Bates the B4ST4RDS back
4 Sell more season tickets.
I pray that I am wrong...but I have a terrible feeling about this.
MOT fredh
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Dont really care either way.movement has been forward and positive.we still got neil.hes managing to bring in the players he wants....so,what difference does it make ..Ts
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I agree with Ts, anything has to be better than the pile of crap that turned up on the pitch for us most of last season.....
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11 Jul 2012 09:46:04
Do you think the chances of us being taken over has gone now, thats what a lot of other sites are saying at the moment. also eatlier rumours that ken bates office had been cleared are wrong and he is still firmly in control of the club. none of this looks promissing does it
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You should now everybody hates Leeds, they are just totally jealous and will do anything to gloat in our misfortunes.
Except we don't actually have any misfortunes right now, with or without any takeover?
We have new players arriving, and talks of more, which is a dam site better than this time last season....
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11 Jul 2012 09:38:12
I think Leroy Lita would be a good signing! hes youngish and he has proven he can be a 20 goal a season striker! last season he only made 16 app for swansea. cant see him costing too much! any thoughts?
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Agreed, Leroy would be an awesome signing.
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11 Jul 2012 09:26:41
Hi guys, there is a Jehovah's witness convention Friday Saturday and Sunday so only the club shop is open and possibly billys bar.no Leeds united staff or ticket office staff are there. Sound is being set up, cameras , stages so don't get your hopes up thinking something is happening, nothing is happening this week if it does it will be Thorpe arch u need to be watching.
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Marc
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A friend of mine goes to the Jehovah's meetings, they were last weekend.
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"A friend of mine goes to the Jehovah's meetings, they were last weekend" - my bad, she was there last weekend, but the meet is this week
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11 Jul 2012 09:16:10
Becchio will be upfront on his own so don't matter
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11 Jul 2012 09:01:22
All these players we are getting linked with are only average
we are gonna need to quality to get out of the championship this year
its will be the hardest ever season(including minus 15 in league 1)
blackburn blackpool cardiff bolton birmingham wolves all with decent teams then leicester middleborough burnley will fancy there chances and not to mention new investment at watford n notts forest then some dark horses like sheff wed (dave jones doing well) n brighton (poyet bringing in some decentish signings) ipswich (jewell is due a good season) hull (bruce n heskey) palace (been spending)
We will have to have a good side and play well against all the above sides then we need results against so called lesser teams millwall barnsley charlton derby peterborough
all in all gonna be a cracking season but we are gonna need some real quality which costs money (10-20 million) to get promotion
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I agree will be a tricky season to call this year. At least half the table have a squad, or the money to improve their squad to challenge for the promotion and playoff places and the other half of the table is pretty strong too with no easy games in it. Also for once all the promoted teams from league one have a realistic chance of pushing for the playoffs and not looking like featuring in the relegation dogfight. Going to be a great but nerve wracking season with loads of twists and turns hopefully with us in the mix on the final day
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10 to 20 million,how much did NW spend getting QPR promoted?,nothing remotely like them figures,the league looks stronger now though,so we will need all his skills to be among the forerunners,just hope he has a few class signings up his sleeve.
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11 Jul 2012 07:47:54
So 5 Years ago to day a Mr Bates took control of leeds united for a second time, is that the omen for he will hand power over exactly 5 years on?
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And the new owner hissssssssss Ken Bates junior. Gzzzz perish the thought of that.
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Let's hope he's not going for his hat trick! White4Life
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11 Jul 2012 07:40:28
Notts Forest takeover complete press conferance for saturday (source bbc news)
Come on Leeds sort it out ..
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It's not a takeover competition! It's not as if, as someone else posted, they got taken over so we can't!
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Err, how do you expect Leeds to be sorting out Notts Forest takeover publicity then?
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11 Jul 2012 06:56:42
Just woke up to see news now showing piece from vital football stating 'Bates still in control' nearly had a heart attack - esspecially with the amount of vodkka red bulls last night - anyway life goes on ........... Thank god and thank Leeds MOT ps. Ed hope you had a better night than me - kidswise I'm talking about (;
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10 Jul 2012 23:37:46
Forest takeover just been announced,gud luck to em,lets hope were next.MOT
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Hope they get relegated and al wasabi takes their money
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Dont be bitter
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