Leeds Banter Archive February 12 2014

12 Feb 2014 19:39:04
Hope cellino gets fl approval soon so frustrating, how much cellino and family worth anybody

12 Feb 2014 20:30:12
1.3 billion reportedly

Pounds, dollars, euros or lira?

Euros . .

Yen ;) .

12 Feb 2014 18:00:27
We are a mid table team just face it guys and stop going on about playoffs. We never was going to make it anyway plus we would be straight back down if we did get promoted need to build for future not a quick fix. MOT

12 Feb 2014 19:20:32
play offs aren't out of reach just need to get a few results. stop been negative

Play offs are out of reach I agree with original poster, we are a million miles away from a promotion winning side!

Cellino asked him(McDermot); Are you the Janitor ;0)

Five points ain't out of reach considering the teams we have to play, no one says we have to be a promotion winning side but 10th-6th place is possible.

March will tell, the glass is still half full, consistency and stability will do us the world of good, be nice to see zal back like he was playing, ariyibi getting a chance on the wing and possibly some high end loans if cash comes available.

13 Feb 2014 03:39:28
So what if we go up and come straight back down at least we can say we was there again . We would come down better off than we have been in last 10 yrs. Its a matter of getting a fair prem team together that's not overly expensive on wages so we can keep players if we do come down. If we stay up we build on top of that then .

12 Feb 2014 16:10:10
When the new owner takes over if he does get through the final process what does he have to do.
He will take a look at the club where things need changing, things that don't need changing what he has to do to get to the position he wants. The thing is this is a business and in business it does need a strong person to make changes where needed get rid of people and put new people in, this happens everyday so why should it be different any where else. I am a leeds fan and love the club and just want it to be on the back pages for football and not on the front pages for failed bids, people saying they have the money and then nothing, Arabs who didn't understand the first thing of running a football club.
So I wait for Cellino and hope he delivers what he has promised he has so far said the wright things .

12 Feb 2014 15:15:39
I know i'm going to get slated for this, but I can't understand the euphoria that's going on with this Cellino bid - he hasn't yet passed the FL fit & proper test, there is no evidence he will plough his millions into Leeds, he has a reputation for not being honest, and if he is so good why are Cagliari so mediochre? - there are silly posts already about players coming in (some which are impossible) some saying let's give him a chance ( when he's not even the owner yet) some saying BMD is the best we have ever had till we have one bad game ( which any side can have) then he needs to go as he knows nothing, some posts raved at the signing if Kebe saying how good he was now after a few bad games he is a waste of space, - how fickle Leeds fans have become (myself included) - I think we are so impatient now we just grab at any straw - just for the record, I don't think Cellino is a good man for Leeds, I think BMD is a good scout not a good manager and I think the players we have are not the best but are all we have for now - let's be supporters, not critics - and let's hope the Italian is a saviour not as I suspect a ruiner

Cagliari were a series c side its like notts county being an established premiership team. And his words we are a ferrarri. He is obviously a clever man hence his fortune and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the prem is way more lucrative.

Good scouts make good signings, McDermott clearly hasn't

Give Cellino a chance
He's ran a footy club(albeit not premiership club)for 22 years.
I'd rather have him than Bates or GFH - GFH have had no experience in running a footy club. What hey have done so far is laughable, bordering on the inept!
Cellino is going to have to put some money in, just to keep us in the Championship. He may be all talk, but he's talking he right things.
Fiat to Ferrari
Buying Elland Rd
Wanting to make changes, even when he's not the official owner.
Whatever you think of Cellino, he cannot be worse than Bates or GFH.
At least he has some footballing pedigree!Albeit Italian footy!

MOT

If you watched the games you would know that we have had many bad games this season. I like Brian but the team are not playing well week in, week out.
It could be lack of quality players and I would like to see BMD have a proper shot at the transfer market with proper money. But the fact still remains that we do not dominate teams and don't look to be in control of games (second half against Huddersfield excepted).

Brian absent that game would not trust him with enough money to buy a 1/4 of sweets because he would buy a tub of brylcreem instead

12 Feb 2014 13:26:36
I felt sorry when BM was sacked but every managers performance are surely bases on results. BM is a nice guy, but nice guys don't do it enough for me, Results Brian, Results.The next 6 games we will see if he is good enough. I agree that we need to get rid of the dead wood but lately he has been playing players that he didn't bring in, and the ones he did are not that much better, are they?

The results I really care about are the league position that's what matters surely?

Right now we're looking pretty comfy with a shot of 10th-6th final position which considering last season and the lack of talent we've brought in due to wages/funds I'd be quite happy with that.

Specially if the players who are competing in dev squad/XI come through to the caliber we usually produce mixed with the good/improving current team and a couple of marquee signings that'd put us in a fantastic position for 2014-2015 season once three of the money teams have gone up and financial fair play kicks in.

Weird how a three year plan makes sense. Build/promoted/stay up.

12 Feb 2014 12:17:20
Send Kebe & Stewart back and let's get Gradel. Quality not quantity. And let's also get rid of the rest of the drivel we are paying through the nose for. Think we have donkeys instead of race horses. MOT

Liverlass

Kebe has looked really good in the last few games. Gradel. ? Suppose you want Beckford as well?

Kebe looked dreadful last night. Incredibly lazy, unfit, lethargic, predictable and just useless. He never even tried to shut down opponents, win headers or chase balls up the line. The whole stand were complaining because of his incompetence

Liverlass
Bring johnson-howson-snodgrass-becchio-gradel back ALL players that DID NOT want to stay at leeds because the grass is so much greener?

According to a recent Grayson interview all of the players sold when he was there DID want to stay and were pushed using various means such as offering insulting contracts. I'll take Grayson's word over yours Andy.

Having said that I think that returning players are generally a bit of a let down so it's not something I really want to see.

Ha ha liverlass here. I love a good debate. The only players I would have back are snodgrass & gradel. Why not gradel he left for family reasons & nearly went to west spam so if we get money behind us then this is the quality that we should be looking at to get out of this league.

Snodgrass, Howson, Becchio and Johnson will be Championship players again next year.

12 Feb 2014 11:38:54
Hi All Kevin Leeds 51 years here.
I go to most games and I just do not understand the thinking behind BMD, in fact it is getting beyond stupid, can I ask all Leeds fans what our best formation is and what is our best starting 11? because BMd has got no idea.
Apart from McCormack I can honestly say that none of our squad are comfortable on the ball, I am not just talking about last night (which in fact was so poor it was embarrassing) this has been fact all season, none of our midfield can string two passes together, our defence is the only defence in the league that none of them can play, all of them hoof the ball every time, now either they are told to do that or they are not capable?
Every team in this league try to play apart from us, now come on BMD what is your plan, we deserve to know your tactic's are you a manager that believes in the hoof ball and you are not a passing manager, we cannot go on like this you must watch the god dam videos back and see what we see.
Now please all Leeds fans if I am missing something then please let me know?
I would just like to ask about Poleon why does he ignore this lad in favour of hunt and others? every time Poleon has played he causes problems with something we have lacked and that is pace, I am seriously struggling with BMD and honestly I am getting really fed up with this crap football.
I hope you all can help me if I have missed the plot here.
Kevin Leeds 52 years.

You must be one of the fickle fans the ed goes on about mate

Is it you birthday today Kevin?, you have aged a year whilst writing that.BTW I agree with everything you have said.Happy Birthday Kev. Big Mark

12 Feb 2014 13:09:22
Kev. You've aged a year whilst writing that post!
Lufctim.

The issue is that the players we have are not good enough, specifically the midfield where the game is won or lost. Austin could do a job protecting the back four but instead he is asked to play a free role which is beyond his capability and therefore he goes missing. Murphy and Mowatt have potential but as a pair (when Austin goes missing) they are not stong enough to boss the midfield. Stewart and Kebe are not ripping up trees however in regards to Kebe I am of the opinion that he is not a "winger" who will fly down the wing and deliver crosses as he seems more at ease with link up play and therefore requires players to do the running for him. At the back the weakest link is Tom Lees who has the attributes to be a good centre back but is as dumb as a brush. A harse statement maybe but the evidence is that he constantly switches off during games, panics with the ball at his feet which results him hoofing it up the pitch and within 3 years of him being a first team player has not improved at all. I suppose the point being is that people should lower their expectations because the current personnel have been punching above their weight in challenging for a top six finish and it is catching up with them.

12 Feb 2014 10:23:42
One loss and the "BMD out" posters are out in force.

When we beat boro' the BMD is brill posters will be back.

I find it perplexing that 10days ago, we were all up in arms that he had been sacked (on the back of 5 losses and a draw) and now we have lost one after 2 wins we are back on his case.

He has always stated that this is a 3 year plan, and should be judged on that. If he had said, we will be back in the Prem after 1 season then I would understand the misgivings.

I work in an office in Leicester, with a lot of Leicetsre fans, most were after Pearsons head last year and were saying he had to go. Now look at them, with basically the same sqaud bar a few signings and pretty much a shoe in for promotion.

BMD needs time and while he is manager of this club needs our backing. When he does finally leave (which no doubt will be sooner than later with Cellino in charge), then we can start commenting on how crap he was or wasnt and how his signings and tactics were. Until then, back the man and back the players.

DS

His signings have been woeful and yesterday was dull. We only won against Yeovil because of the wind, they looked better than us but didn't capitalise on their attacking play.
Simon Grayson would have romped this league if he'd have had players like Warnock, Byram and Mowatt and Pearce in addition to the 1st team he had when he was sacked. Now the football we had under him was exciting and passionate.

Well said, its almost comical how some Leeds fans are, win a game- we love Bmd and he's here for the future, lose a game and he's the worst manager, no tactics and terrible signing.

We have a squad capable of mid table pushing for play-offs, that's what we are doing. So we have lost a few on the bounce, so what, this is one of the toughest leagues in Europe, look at how close the points are between everyone.

As for signing, who do you expect us to get? Wilfred zaha, birdcutt. Some of the names you throw around are ridiculous, get with the times we can't compete for these players.

All you Fifa/ Football manager players talk tactics, formations and such when in reality you know nothing about setting up a real team.

Oh hi i'm joe bloggs I got leeds promoted in my first season, I now have messi in my team therefore I know what i'm on about.

NO ITS NOT THAT SIMPLE!

Stop whining get behind the team and manager, and let's look forward to a better future

LUFC JIMMY

And guess what. he was sacked! can't sit back and say Simon Grayson was this that and everything we needed because otherwise we would be in the Premiership. McDermott provides stability, and that's we need at this moment. I don't believe we will make play offs, don't think we will get any loan players, but I do believe he is playing the way he wants, and against Leicester I say a glimpse of what we can do. We didn't win it. No. but that's where buying QUALITY comes in, and at the moment, and throughout McDermott hasn't had the oppertunity. £1mil for Murphy is nothing, people think that's loads. well compare him to others. he's a lot better and has potential, unlike the others

GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE!

I agree with you wholey, but Grayson isn't the manager and we haven't got the same team.

I am just saying we should the manager and the current team.

We all know that BMD is a beginner manager who inherited a good attacking sqaud at Reading, but he took 3 years to get promoted.

He needs to earn his crust and if he fails, will dually be relieved of duties. Until then, as our manager he needs our backing.

Ds

Have to agree with a lot of the other posters. The evidence suggests that BMD is struggling to know how to get the best out of these payers.He is a nice guy and has been treated badly but back to reality now and there have been too many mistakes and bad decisions to justify his continued unquestioned support. We have a decent team with a striker who is likely to hit 30 goals this season. That should be enough to have a strong campaign with a bit of organisation and consistency. Also, I liked what I saw of Wotton. What does everyone else think. We know that Lees and Pearce hare not good enough as a partnership. Too slow and had enough chances yet sitll playing every game. Same problems as Warnock days. how can he not of progressed the centre back issue!?! 3 year plan is just an excuse.

RW MOT

My advice would be to read what most people write who don't want Brian out and that spend time writing replies to people who do.

Struggling to get the best out of players when we are five points off of play-offs with limited funds, our owners are lending cash to pay players wages (gotta be unsettling)

The position we are in and the possibilities we could end higher is pretty good considering the players we have.

We have an okay team and a striker who will hit near enough thirty goals which will take us a little bit higher than we are.

This is a strong campaign considering this is a three year plan. Wootton has been getting lots of XI games in but for whatever reason is seen as not ready.

What most people see as bad decision could be the fact that we don't fully understand why they are been made.

It's all well and good calling for certain players to be included and played but we don't know what's happening in training, in physio and behind the scenes in regards to contracts, attitudes and just about everything else.

The centre back issue seemed to have been solved with Zal but since his contract extension his form dropped. He took a bad challenge near the end of Barnsley game and was doubtful for Blackpool but still played.

His form appeared to suffer was removed from the team and ten days or so later featured in a XI game for ninety minutes and has played two more since but not been included even in the subs whereas Wootton who is seen as work in progress has appeared on the subs bench.

This to me screams injury and Brian doesn't seem to fond of discussing weakness and negativity whether it be slating people or mentioning injuries while leaving team selection till late making it difficult for opponents to second guess tactics.

Think that's about it.

12 Feb 2014 08:29:53
Have to agree with most of the current posts, BMD seems not to have a clue on what formation we are playing, His signings have been poor and nice guy he might be but its time for a change and we need a proper manager with the skill and knowledge to get the best from what we have and the vision to sign players to make the team better. Sorry Brian but time to go before the Italian bins you.! MOT

Who would you of signed then? Given the limited transfer and wage budget

Brilliant question, everyone seems quick to call for his head without knowing the full ins and outs.

What I see is false promises of cash and a three year plan, so signings for the future to build the team he sees getting promoted and further bolstering with cash that was never going to materialise.

Wage bill is massive. No cash in the coffers from sponsorship or season tickets.

So I repeat the question with zero cash and minimal wage budget who would you of brought into the club?

12 Feb 2014 04:58:16
Nice bloke mcd. But not like reading is it eh?
Big fan of brian. Anybody better than gitface warnock- but mcd has chopped and changed players and formation so many times - nobody, inc mcd knows what's going on, on the pitch. Thanks for being a decent bloke and all that but can we have a football manager now please.
These players are more than capable of playoffs but at a time when they should be playing for a contract, are playing crap!?

I'm sorry, but these players are considerably less than capable of making the playoffs. McDermott's transfer window was trashed by all the other crap going on. Had it not been I suspect we might have seen the addition of a couple of players who might have been up to the task. PK

I Can't beleive people are say negative things about BM, just look at last nights starting evelen team.

Kenny
Byram Peaarce Lees Warnock
Murphy Austin Mowatt
Kebe Pugh
Ross

two players that BM signed, this is still not his team. To keep blaming the manger will not get us back to the PL we need stability and surpport from fans and the board.
I for one think he's done OK under the circumstances

In Brian I trust.

Only cause the players he signed didn't get picked

But he has signed another 3 players who rarely feature in the starting 11 so that's down to him. Also, he has given Mowatt his chance this season so I'd probably class him as one of his players.
I do agree however that his hands have been tied by the farce that is the board but so far the majority of the players he has signed haven't really covered themselves in glory & I can't say I was too disappointed to miss out on Barnes from Brighton.

Why can't we sign some promising, young talented players on loan from the top 4 or 5 clubs in the premier league?

I see a lot of other championship club do it? We had Ross Barkley last season, players like this can surly improve the club, even if they are on loan

To last poster. wages.

As for Ausman (aka can't believe we lost to "insert wrong team here")

BMcD was told this was a three year plan some of his signings haven't worked out but I believe the idea was to build a team.

The reason for this is our wage bill is astronomical due to Warnock and as we have no cash from season tickets/sponsorship and gfh aren't willing to fund owt he's had to do what he's had to do.

The blokes getting hung out to dry by money men playing pr games.