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13 Dec 2020 18:36:40
Fulham good for their point tho I really wanted them to come away with zero.
13 Dec 2020 19:24:26
Yes it's a shame Liverpool could not find an (albeit underserved) winner.
13 Dec 2020 18:00:52
Just can't believe that anyone is even entertaining the thought of getting rid of Bielsa. Just remember where we've been for the last 16 years, and some of the rubbish we've had to put up with. Then, think of the joyous football we've been entertained with since Marcello arrived. The saying is "You can't make a silk purse from a sows ear", which is not true, because that's exactly what he has done at Leeds. So let's all be grateful that the master is with us and hopefully for a long time to come. MOT.
13 Dec 2020 18:22:20
Danum of course your sentiments are entirely correct re past 2 seasons however we are now in an unforgiving EPL with only possibly Sheff Utd and West Brom noticeably weaker and relegation is a reak possibility
Despite the bravado of numerous posters on here with their claims that Leeds will not go down, for me no one can be certain it is a given that Leeds will finish above Fulham, Brighton, Burnley etc
There are 2 pertinent issues re Bielsa tenure
1.IF Bielsa has lost the dressing room because of the Pablo situation and results and performances continue to suffer then that is a major reason for him to be sacked
2.Losing more games due to our Achilles heel would also be a reason.
{Ed0666's Note - Biesla is a man of strength, principle and fortitude it would be hard for me to believe he has lost the dressing room. The man just commands respect. If he has its at Leeds cost.
13 Dec 2020 18:33:25
Dan, I too do not want a change at the top so my xxxx out placard is still in the loft. Actually over the years its seen much use. It's exactly the same placard I have had for the past 10 years.
Only 2 new handles and 5 new boards.
13 Dec 2020 18:59:20
Totally agree with that post the last 3 seasons have been amazing full houses and only one reason for that Bielsa, I'm at an age before Radrizzani got Bielsa whether I'd ever see Leeds in the top flight again just keep the faith we will be ok if Bielsa goes it will be on terms but I'm so grateful for him getting Leeds back and the football is joy to watch, where not going to win every game where new to the Premier League and will take time to build it back to a top six club but I'm confident the this hierarchy can do it.
13 Dec 2020 19:02:54
Excellently put Danum. Baz take a day off!
Last season we had a period of 1 win in 10 and many wrote off our chances of promotion. Get a grip it’s a long season. MOT.
13 Dec 2020 19:30:29
Cork . how is comparison with last season and different leagues really relevant. last season we were the strongest team this season we are bottom 6
And if Pablo plays against Newcastle it would help dampen the rumours.
13 Dec 2020 20:42:09
Form mate. Teams hit good and poor form no matter what division you are in.
13 Dec 2020 21:31:23
See what you did there Leodis.
Spot on Dnum and talk of Bielsa out is ridiculous and shows what terrible memories fans have some times.
13 Dec 2020 23:41:26
Just a point to remember what Bielsa has done, 6 players from Friday's game were playing for us under Heckingbottom. We are having it a bit tough at the moment, especially with the injury situation, but I am sure Bielsa is the man to keep us up this season, which is the main objective. We may need a couple of signings in January just to give the squad a bit more strength in depth or experience.
13 Dec 2020 19:03:31
Oh and well said Ed 666.
{Ed0666's Note - 👍
14 Dec 2020 18:36:29
form is tempaory us being useless at set plays is perminant
I said at start of season our woeful defending would cost us and many pointed to clean sheets but that was false as we always had the ball this year is different
no point playing well if set plays cost us. who wouldn't fancy playing leeds at the moment apart from Snow White and the 7 little fellas?
14 Dec 2020 19:15:55
also as for the stick I have taken for my Belisa out.
I can see why I am getting stick on here but like to point it. it comes as I don't think belisa will learn or adapt so the problems we have will always be
I have been saying for three years and especially at the start of this season our defence is a joke, our inability to cope with set plays will cost us. many at the time really laughed at me. told me to give head a shake etc. many pointed to our clean sheets last season.
I would like to point out I was right about this. I knew it was coming and that it would cost us and in my opinion no team with our strength will survive while this massive weakness is there
this not an I told you so post or saying how great am I or how I knew it was coming when many belittled me. it is just a bit of defence for my point of view
belisa doesn't care about set plays. its ok when you are by far away the best team (like last season) but when you are not it really matters. I would say with the players we have we are about 10th in the league, with the style we play we are maybe 6th I would also say with our inability to defend in general and epically with set plays we could finish 19th and that would be such a huge shame.
13 Dec 2020 17:14:19
Having watched the U-23s against LeedsDave's other team, it is madness if Greenwood is not on the bench for the Bar Codes. He's first team material and ready. Gelhardt not far away either.
13 Dec 2020 18:01:42
Has anyone found out how bogusz has been doing lately, I presume he's on a season long loan, but yes, gelhardt could be useful, but bubs will not use him, we all know that now, no budging.
13 Dec 2020 18:02:56
George fully agree both should be in team as well Pablo, good result for them, great game to watch.
13 Dec 2020 18:05:49
You would hope so.
13 Dec 2020 18:35:34
Far too radical for Bielsa but as well as those names I would add Huggins. Will not happen but live in hope.
13 Dec 2020 19:06:52
They look good alright George and you may be right but MB sees them in training everyday and there’s a big difference between u23s and first 11. I do hope you are right though.
13 Dec 2020 21:36:44
I agree with you Cork, there is a big divide between U23’s and fist team football. You can get very carried away with the youngsters performances in these games, I remember feeling the same way about Jack Clarke.
There is some realistic potential in these young guns, let’s hope they make it.
13 Dec 2020 23:32:42
Cork Baby Shack and Struick made the transition. You are right but I'm not advocating from Caprile right through to the subs. I'm arguing for Greenwood, the pick of them. Gelhardt and Huggins also look close.
13 Dec 2020 16:57:38
Just wondering. Do we still have a set piece expert/ trainer?
13 Dec 2020 17:39:26
Leo. What do you think! 😂😂.
14 Dec 2020 18:37:00
yeah we do. steive wonder.
13 Dec 2020 16:24:44
I would keep quiet if I were you Berm, 😂 nobody likes anything you are saying at the moment mate. 😂
I would try again when Leeds start winning. 😎.
13 Dec 2020 16:38:03
Well said villadave. Just a quick question. Did you throw yourself to the floor before or after commenting? Only joking.
14 Dec 2020 18:38:03
that is where you are wrong VIllia Dave no one likes what I say when we are winning either mainly because I am a massive T""T but then at least I know it.
15 Dec 2020 16:52:33
Yeah I would have to agree with you. 😁.
13 Dec 2020 14:40:11
2000 Leeds supporters in attendance at home games would help galvanise the Leeds team.
Waiting to see if the city of Leeds is placed in Tier 2 rather than Tier 3 in the tier reviews on Wednesday 16th December 2020.
Every advantage available is needed now.
13 Dec 2020 15:46:22
Not sure i agree. Given some of the negative comments I've read since Friday i think it could make for a toxic atmosphere. Every negative comment echoing round the stadium. Loads of leeds fans claimed they would take 17th. You don't finish 17th by going on long unbeaten runs with no issues. A lot need to man up and at the very least give Bielsa the respect he's more than earned. One other comment I've read. David Wagner. Really. Take your head for a shake.
13 Dec 2020 16:04:56
Andy That's from Berm who one of the Eds describes as something of the year. Just roll back the m in Berm 2 letters and you have your answer.
13 Dec 2020 16:14:30
Yeah i know. Bring back villadave at least his comments were valid.
13 Dec 2020 16:24:31
Yes there is that Andy good point it works both ways.
As for head shaker Berm well really indeed.
13 Dec 2020 18:04:47
Still think it must be to Leeds advantage to have 2000 Leeds supporters at home games
it clearly is making a big difference with other clubs at home.
13 Dec 2020 23:04:16
I think it would be an advantage if we get the right fans in. Some wouldn't be negative at the games just cheer the lads on.
13 Dec 2020 11:12:46
I don't think MB will walk in Jan but I do worry that his intransigence will drag us down. We cannot say that there are 3 teams worse than us but we can say that on current form at the moment we are one of the 5 or 6 misfiring teams in the league. It is now up to the individual managers to earn their corn and turn these things around. Let's hope MB is one of those managers and shows his genius, although it's not rocket science, the failings are clear, for all to see.
13 Dec 2020 13:12:22
He will walk by January.
Body language.
Ask Ed.
H.
13 Dec 2020 15:07:02
If he can’t fix the problems and change things maybe it is time he went . david Wagner for me to replace him.
13 Dec 2020 15:11:06
Aus That's a ridiculous opinion. He's a man of integrity and would not leave us in lurch especially when retirement 4 months later is the easiest graceful option.
13 Dec 2020 16:00:02
Berm So you'd advocate the recruitment of a manager who recently failed to win a league game in 4 months and was sacked because of it? Nice 👎.
13 Dec 2020 16:21:39
Totally agree, spot on leodis!
13 Dec 2020 16:13:56
Marcelos problems previously seem to have stemmed from a "falling out" with the board. Same thing here, if Radrizzani backs him then all's well, if not?
13 Dec 2020 19:10:35
Well said George. Bielsa is a man of integrity.,
13 Dec 2020 08:57:55
Bielsa is still the man. Llorente and Koch being out didn’t help. Others were off form including Raphinha who has been electric.
But this was a very concerning performance. Set pieces we were horrible at both ends of the pitch.
Meslier made some world class stops but he can flap too.
Passing accuracy and lads being picked off.
Continued injuries, Coupled with Newcastle having their tail up means Wednesday might be more hard yards.
I love our entertaining play, but we need to win and that is proving difficult as we are horrible at the back and up front we keep shooting either medium paced stuff straight rally the keeper or off target.
Teams are getting used us swarming the area,? allowing the counter and giving up soft set pieces.
Newcastle park the bus, counter attack and slit their chances. Need more centre back coverage in transfer window. and a set piece coaching improvement. or we’re in for a relegation scrap.
And to be honest lads. wba, Fulham, sheff u and Burnley -bad though they are- are playing better week on week. we’ve been going backwards.
13 Dec 2020 10:27:52
Ya it's a worry when the geordies have allan -saint -max in their midst he is wicked fast, but it's definitely the route to hit Leeds is the counter, coupled with Andy in set piece we will have our hands full, normally mentioning the above 2 shouldn't be too worrying but with our makeshift defence and a small lack of confidence, it might be a more worrying time
However a good few days in training a shot of positivity can work wonders so let's hope we in good mindset to face that ( other ) team next Sunday.
13 Dec 2020 10:35:27
Very good and accurate account. Can't really argue with anything you have said. Think we all knew that this season was going to be hard. Personally I'm not in the bielsa must go camp, but could easily see him walking away maybe at the end of the season. I do think however that he needs to sort out the continued problems we seem to show very quickly, bielsa is known to prepare and analyse in detail so now is the time to live up to his genius hype.
13 Dec 2020 11:22:25
I too look forward to a Llorente/ Koch pairing however I wonder if they have the height? and muscle to attack the ball (and attackers) the sooner we find out the better as I am also moving into the Cooper out camp.
13 Dec 2020 16:22:31
Cooper is a lovely fella and as much as I love his passion for the club, he isn't premiership quality.
13 Dec 2020 19:12:36
I’m starting to think you are right Mezz. Cooper has the odd good game like against Chelsea but has too many below par games.
13 Dec 2020 07:39:31
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13 Dec 2020 06:16:04
We all know that the high intensity play of a Bielsa team is going to have a cost whether that is injury or fatigue. The training sessions must be absolutely grueling and I think this is what we are possibly witnessing already at this stage of the season, the players in my mind against W. Ham looked off our normal pace. This is the one thing I don’t understand why he doesn’t play with a bigger squad to alleviate the fatigue and injuries to players.
I think a Bielsaist would say the problem is not in the coaching, but that nobody is perfect enough to play the way he demands.
I still wouldn’t change his style of play for another coach as the entertainment value is amazing, but I guess the sustainability can be put into question.
On another note he has made a silk purse out of a sows ear concerning certain players, this has always been one of his traits, but when you do look at certain players within our squad, there are limitations to there eventual quality, I think with the inclusion of higher quality of players with time, it will make his system of play more effective.
13 Dec 2020 02:15:28
Any smart manager will play for free kicks around the box and corners.
It is that easy.
I reckon biesla will walk in January.
He looked a beaten man on the touch line.
I don't think we will go down cause thankfully there are 3-5 worst teams.
I'm still gob smacked how many players were useless yesterday though.
As someone said. They should give their wages to charity cause they sure as hell didn't earn them.
13 Dec 2020 04:58:49
Regardless of size and stature, the players need to man up and be more aggressive, determined, concentrated and savvy in dealing with corners / set plays.
Berardi is a good example of a smaller player 5.10 who would win many headers against taller players purely due to his determined blooming minded attitude.
13 Dec 2020 15:09:33
Baz You don't know the game if you claim aerial prowess is due to attitude. Attitude little to do with it. You've either got it or you haven't. Can't truly be coached. We lack such players unfortunately. Heard Bera will be back late February.
13 Dec 2020 15:09:47
Very true bv also belisa needs to match up properly Dallas on soukz was so stupid a move
As said I knew before kick off he would score so why was Bamford or Ayling not on him?
13 Dec 2020 15:46:51
Everything is possible with a CAN DO attitude George.
13 Dec 2020 16:13:44
Disagree Baz. Roofe not a tall geezer but could jump like a salmon and hang in the air. I recall his goal against Derby away 2 years ago. Bera not tall but he can leap no doubt. Years gone by Gary Speed RIP could get up like a demon. It often requires quick twitchy leg muscles which not all the professionals have. Furthermore, our style of play and coaching focuses on Bielsaball and as we know murderball. We don't have such players, we don't breed such players and the last 2 we had we sold. Roofe and Pontus. This is all about Bielsa adapting. He's in the PL now. His weaknesses shall be identified, explored and capitalized on. We need to recruit more physically in order to adapt. Will mean sacrificing some fluidity but rather that than watch set piece goal concede time after time.
13 Dec 2020 01:29:03
Was angry at that poor performance and result but having calmed down, feel we going to have to deal with defeats as we are in the premiership with a championship side.
There was only 2 players in that squad/ team that weren't in the championship (rod/ raphi) , so going to struggle against established premiership sides.
We did have 30mil of CB's out and our best RB at CB, not a great fit, saying that he was only of of 3 players yesterday that were any good, others been KP and meslier.
We will survive with this squad but think we all feel we could be a top 8 team but this will take time and investment.
Bielsa has been amazing and would hate to lose him, he is up there with our top ever managers IMO.
Need to get Lorente fit and playing regular to see if he can be the answer, again IMO his performance against Chelsea was bad but still hopeful.
GK coaches have to get training meslier to come and command his area more, he a great shot stopper and has ability with his feet but he is tall and could come and take/ punch more to help defense.
Moving forward and may have to wait till summer, but we need 4-6 quality additions to take us to European places.
Need LB, CB, DMF cover, creative MF, forward and possible winger, unless poveda can step up, he needs to start for me.
Let go alioski, cooper, Harrison, costa and possibly Rodrigo as he not a clinical striker or is he that linking player.
13 Dec 2020 05:14:13
Was definitely hoping for a stress free mid table ride this season
but hey still putting things in context it still is better than a lot of mediocre seasons in the past.
Praying
for a vigorous, determined, clinical, more enthusiastic response from the players and win against Newcastle
# massive game.
13 Dec 2020 13:15:01
Utter bollocks Melbourne.
13 Dec 2020 15:12:42
Said this before
People blame the keeper for not commanding area it is not every keepers fault it is the defence
I play in goal you have to keep a small area work the line and a small corridoor as a keeper on corners
No keeper would have a chance woth our defence it would make the best keeper look jittery and useless
The answe is not the keeper but the defence.
14 Dec 2020 10:19:14
Which part Ausman?
13 Dec 2020 00:59:09
The Newcastle game is the biggest game of the season so far for Bielsa and for the players.
It's a MUST win game and we need to get out of the malaise, lethargy, weakness and petulance of that West Ham game.
1) We need to TURN UP show much more passion, fight and determination again.
Where was the enthusiasm and celebrations from the players when they went one up! The players also need to WIN their personal battles.
2) We MUST stop conceding feeckicks especially needless petulant freekicks in our half Alioski did it multiple times and others such as Rodrigo and Costa.
3) Must hit the target with shots and not at the goalkeeper.
13 Dec 2020 00:36:36
Leeds are very light on numbers in midfield and we were very close to signing Michael Cuisance in the summer.
Simply must sign a midfielder in the January window.