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13 Feb 2013 23:03:00
again, why blame GFH, they've been in charge less than 2 months, they're not miracle workers are they
ARE you HAVING A LAUGH? OR SUPPORTING A DIFFERENT TEAM TO US?
barmy army!!
mot4life
Bates is to blame remember him>?
13 Feb 2013 21:56:36
We need to get adkins now before someone else does. JD
Did adkins take Scunthorpe down a couple of seasons ago.
I think you'll find he was getting Southampton promoted a couple of seasons ago. Oh, and he was getting them promoted again one season ago.
13 Feb 2013 20:37:07
Clearly gfh are happy with the tedium of warnocks dreadful style of play, and of course lack of results. gfh are listening to fans opinions - NOT
Under grayson, at the end of January last season we were on 42 points and 1 point from playoffs quite ironically middlesborough and under warnock, after 31 games we are on 42 points and 8 points from playoffs behind middlesborough. When neil came in he was slating our squad and constantly undermining the players and what has changed. I believed in Warnock but now it has come to the end for him and his average squad. Thinking about it why did we actually think we were going up we had a squad full of rejects from even worse clubs including Portsmouth who we got 4 players off and my dads mate was well happy to get rid of them, we never had any wingers and when we finally loaned one in we didn't even bother trying to get him back, were not using our youth enough and worst of all our play is predictable and easy to defend against. Bring on next season get a young prem manager in who can see we are a sleeping giant and hopefully we can get a rich investor on board to sort out this great club as being at the age of 14 I have yet to see the good times of the prem days but I do long for them mot
13 Feb 2013 19:42:40
I am sick and tired of people saying Warnock has not had any money to spend, look at the last window, tonge 300k, hall 250k, morison 2m?, I say with a? because we valued becchio at 3m and we got 200k cash that deal might have been 2.8m, so he spent at least 2.5m not bad and before you say is that all, can I remind you they were the players he wanted, so how do we know there wasn't more cash available.
Not forgeting the pearce and austin transfers
So according to your figures he really spent (not including Austin or Pearce)
300 + 250 - 200 = 350k as Morro and becchio was basically a swap and therefore not much of a transfer.
If he had money to spend, he ain't really spent it well.
TBH if he had spent £10million, I don't think it would solve our problems. He would play them out of position most likely, or leave them sat on the bench for 85 minutes.
MOT
Disillusioned
That would be great if we didn't sell Snodgrass for 2m+ which means we've spent hardly anything.
These are peanut transfer numbers. We are supposed to be Leeds gearing for premiership players. not going after monkeys FFS
13 Feb 2013 19:40:51
The new owners obviously have only limited funds (why else would a consortium bid for a majority stake 7 weeks after gfh took over?)but I do think they have more than they a prepared to release for Warnock let's be honest his signings have been lackluster to say the least and why would they give him any real transfer funds when he's not going to be in charge come end of season. Hopefully when a new manager comes in next season he will be given real backing to FINALLY push the club forward
Floyd The Barber
If he is not going to be with us next season and we are not now going to make the play offs we need to blood the youngster and see if they are up to the job for next season. It does not matter who is in charge now this season is a write off, but we should be using the rest of the season preparing for next
13 Feb 2013 19:34:45
If it's true that GFH are hoping to sell and maybe there is a majority stake to go if the price is right then this could be why Warnock isn't fired yet. Would you fire him and pay him off or let the next guy do it? Also why fire him and then have to hire someone. You could hire someone the new people don't want to have on board
All we know is something has to give soon!'
Crmd
13 Feb 2013 19:09:44
PS. I am not sure what value GFH was bringing to the table. Usually with an aqcuisition you look for a plan to realize the value:
-GFH haven't managed a major sports franchise
-They don't have ready access to a free flow of capital
-They brought no other asset, access to market, good will, elimination of competition (what ever that would be) or heaven forbid "synergies".
They seem to have brought an aspiration, a little bit of cash (few million) and a belief the club were close and with them at the helm they couldn't do worse than the other guy.
Qualifies as a "Speculative investment with a potentially large upside and enhancement to the Brand of their portfolio".
Definitely not a guranteed success nor what Leeds fans were hoping for.
13 Feb 2013 18:35:09
To be fair, the season was a long shot by the time we got to the January window.
But
I'd give Neil 3 more games with his new squad to show some progress. if not Neil, sorry mate, yer toast.
I might be inclined to wait for new investment to come and bring in their own Manager. but look what that wait cost us this season.
The next man for the job has to be truly premier league class. Not premier league reject. Not premier league wannabe. But premier league that we know can take us into Europe in 3 years.
Final thought, GFH do not appear to have done much to improve the value of their asset. Selling at a loss a few months in is going to be painful. They most likely will want to ride it out for a bit. They bought on the "Big Club Premier Potential" That is still there, just not this year.
Their attempt to attract other capital would be consistent with their having nowt and not wanting to sell at a loss.
They didn't buy "for the love of the club and desire to sink millions in it". an extremely wealthy individual might. but a business certainly wont
I am/was a staunch NW supporter however, following the last two games it's now time for NW to go and PK to step aside and give Ashdown the rest of the season.
I fear a mid table finish is the best we can hope for!
13 Feb 2013 18:34:12
Let me guess. let's all hang in there until yet another transfer window. Do you know something we haven't got anyone left to sell have we. There was lots of rumours flying around in the summer the Harry red knapp was coming to Leeds. He was coming on the back of massive Middle East investment. As soon as he went to QPR it was obvious big investment wasn't coming. So here was are with yet more owners who either don't have any money of don't like the club. For goodness sake can someone buy us who is a Leeds fan with some money, or if you don't have any money just tell us you don't. apologies I ask too much the true for once. Utter garbage. ed help please! {Ed013's Note - Sorry mate, I only just have enough cash for my season ticket, never mind buying Leeds!}
13 Feb 2013 20:08:48
I can't believe people are actually moaning about gfh. They have basically saved Leeds united from going into administration because that is the direction we were heading. We are in good hands and gfh will be looking for investment which is something. Bates wouldn't even consider while he was owner.
I don't expect massive amounts to be spent on players. We have a squad which we can now build on. Spend 3 million in the summer.
They don't have 3 million to put in. So what do you want them to do? Sell more of are young crop?
BARMY ARMY!
mot4life
14 Feb 2013 05:44:11
Who says they won't have 3 million in the summer as they are looking for investment now
13 Feb 2013 18:01:29
When Howard Wilkinson came in he told the media how big the name Leeds United is, he told all we were a sleeping giant, he sold our name and previous reputation to sponsors and players alike to get them to join Leeds United, he had a vision of what could be achieved within a timescale, he got quality experienced players in for promotion, and once that was achieved waited for the youth to blossom. At present we can't even plan for next week and the youth go out on loan without getting a chance. I had high hopes for Poleon at the start of the season surely he can't be any worse than what is being played in the team at present. The take over has changed nothing, until we find a new Wilko we'll be in this league for a while yet.
Good post and 100% spot on.
The "original Wilko" is still available - would be nice to have him do it for us again. I think the squad is quite good if we added his expertise a couple of wingers and the youth we'd be laughing
13 Feb 2013 18:01:27
I can't understand Warnock, Barkley hasn't had a bad game, yet Warnock can't gurantee him a game.
Why did he sign him in the first place if he thought he would be on the bench or not playing.
Why sign Hall and not play him?
I don't think like most people that the new owners have any money, they are in this for a quick few quid, to which, i'm sure Bates will have some kind of sell on clause as I understand that they haven't even paid Bates yet!
LUFC = Madness
I was actually pretty underwhelmed by Barkley. I'm assuming you didn't actually see him play live. His performance against Cardiff was very poor. I watched him play a few times when he was at Wednesday aswell and thought he was pretty average. Sad fact is we are crying out for an actual winger with pace, anyone can see that. Our best form of the season was when we had Thomas on the wing. If GFH couldn't stump up £750k for Burke, then they better sell up quick. sorry all but had enough of tripe.
13 Feb 2013 17:47:38
Bates still goes own Leeds
He was sat one day thinking if it all G, oes F, ecking H, orible I can say we have no money.
I have G, ot F, unds H, idden but G, rayson F, ound H, undreds of thousands hidden so I sacked him.
Next thing I knew was it was G, rayson F, or H, uddersfield.
So I set up a company called GFH as the 3 letters seem to go nicely together and to blag everyone I had sold up.
Still I get loads of GFH from fans saying G. o F, ecking H, ome G, reedy F, ecking h, asbeen
When they all respect me and say I am a G, reat F, antastic H, uman then I might leave.
13 Feb 2013 17:40:21
Not a rumour more of a poll
Press believable for Warnock Out
Press unbelievable for Warnock In
13 Feb 2013 17:34:03
personally I think season is over. bring in new manager (nigel atkins) so he has time to look at the squad in competitve matches. play some of the youngsters (chris dawson, dom poleon and not give him to are local rivals) and get some new owners in (prefrably with money)
13 Feb 2013 16:46:52
So many people going through the Elland Road exit door, Barkley and Poleon today, but when will the one that the majority of Leeds supporters go? His comments over the last few months has shown that he is either deluded or senility is setting in. Please Mr Warnock GO and enjoy your retirement
13 Feb 2013 15:34:20
So like my post the other day I always support the team and manager. However the last 24 hours have done it for me. Firstly nw stated that we would go for it against boro, going for it would include playing: 1 best players 2 best players in their positions. Secondly, ross barkley returns to everton as nw cannot guarentee playing him. He is by far and away our best midfielder when played in correct position. No exceptions. Ashdown should be number 1 and we need to start with hall and habibou on each wing. Whatever you think of the 2, they are wingers and funily enough will work better than centre mids. Nw time to go dannylufc
Barkley returning is proof that wingers and the style of play that goes with them is not what Warnock requires. He wants a target striker and defenders who can kick over half the length of the pitch. Subtle and effective it's not!
CJS
13 Feb 2013 15:22:08
barkley sent back cause warnock can't promise him games. but he can guarantee peltier brown varney kenny a starting place. what a joke our club as become under warnock and gfh are no better a so called investment firm that have no money to invest. my team would be a 4-1-3-2 formation with ashdown in goal back four byram lees pearce warnock green sat in front tonge diouf and dawson in midfield poleon and mccormack up front. mocka hudds white
13 Feb 2013 15:16:53
Our scores this season not been good. But still better than Neil Warnock`s score in public communication!
At end of summer he was only missing "the icing of the cake". At autumn he was (rightly) frustrated by the lack of financial backing. At end of january transfer window, he was well satisfied with new players, and only wished "he could have started season with this squad" (implicating the "icing" was there!) This was only a couple of weeks ago. Then three more disappointing results, and oupps: he now tells us Snoddy is the missing link and the reason why we are not in the top four.
His double communication and speak with multiple tongues tears down credability and respect. It presents him as a manager in desperate need of self excuse! It affects fans, and must affect owners and players as well! Regardless of results, this is not the kind of manager our great club and huge fanbase needs and deserves.
Time to go then!
13 Feb 2013 15:13:14
Well. That's it. No play offs now. The annoying thing is that if gfh had lived up to there promises. The players we needed where all available. Burke. Boyd. Faurlin. CMS. We would at least easily have made the play offs with those at least. But no. Overpriced. Bad time to do business etc. Well gfh. Let me ask you. If that investment had brought you 90 million for going up. Would have you been happy? As it is. You are going to lose money. from falling crowds etc. Instead have having 25 thousand plus gates if we where on contention for promotion! Investment bank? Don't make me laugh! Oh and by the way. If any one says, "why would they invest. When Warnock will be going? Doesn't wash. Any championship manager would love the above mentioned players in there squad. No matter who took over.
Bob. Wakefield
13 Feb 2013 14:39:21
I so agree! 50 points asap, not happy with that but relieved! Apn-ing63
If we lose the next 2, and those behind pick up points it will be Arse eating your underpants time, and Warnock has just stated on O/S that we have nothing to lose.
13 Feb 2013 14:37:24
I was one of the Bates still owns Leeds utd, but if you think about it, if bates did still own the club don't you think he would have had Warnock out the door by now, of coarse he would these guys are to soft to sack anyone.
13 Feb 2013 14:36:20
Just a thought but you don't think that NW, who had a public hatred of Leeds before he became manager, is secretly trying to do his worst? He would have the last laugh and then retire to Cornwall!
CJS
13 Feb 2013 17:15:26
It's not such a daft suggestion!
He did slate LUFC some years ago and he does hold a grudge (ask Benitez) His management is well to put it blunt is s#ite, players regularly played out of position, his signings and loans are not used what is the point? If they can't improve the team why bring them in the first place.
His communications are at best the Ramblings of a mad man it's always someone or something else to that's to blame.
13 Feb 2013 14:36:20
barkley gone back to everton brown or barkley now tell me warnock knows wot he his doing[kez1919]
13 Feb 2013 13:46:20
9. 45 Australia time about 1. 45 your time I think
Why are the press or os not reporting warnock has been sacked? Has England's weather caused a total blackout. I will double check first thing in the morning to get news gfh have sacked him.
Ausman
NW will not be sacked, Its unlikely any new manager will be appointed until new owners/investors are installed, they will no doubt want to bring their own man in, I think NW will be here until the end of the season, or the new regime takes over.
NW will not be sacked, Its unlikely any new manager will be appointed until new owners/investors are installed, they will no doubt want to bring their own man in, I think NW will be here until the end of the season, or the new regime takes over.
13 Feb 2013 13:43:34
So we got done by Norwich again. No wonder they were so keen to offload Morison. Becchio is head & shoulders above him. Nice move Neil. Anyone who is still supporting this man and his ancient out of date hoof ball has not had the pleasure of witnessing such a spectacle. Playoffs my arse! And to change a decent defence around just when we were getting consistant in that area. Warnock is tactically inept and couldn't spot a good player if he stood up in his soup. I was fully behind his appointment and thought we would go up automatically under his tenure. Now we may face a relegation battle.
Give the lad a chance
Oh, I think Neil's real achievement is managing to send our best young striker out on loan to Sheffield United when he keeps saying how desperate we are to get a striker in?
Why don't we give Poleon a bl**dy chance FFS?
Morrison has been out a while and won't be match fit. did becchio set the league alight in his 1st few months at leeds?
Oh, I think Neil's real achievement is managing to send our best young striker out on loan to Sheffield United when he keeps saying how desperate we are to get a striker in?
Why don't we give Poleon a bl**dy chance FFS?
Morrison has been out a while and won't be match fit. did becchio set the league alight in his 1st few months at leeds?
13 Feb 2013 13:07:00
Surely GFH should be rich, there an investment bank in the richest part of the world FFS. How come there are no super rich leeds fans. If I became a multimillionaire I would buy leeds and do the right thing as a fan wants. Shame we can only dream for such a thing.
13 Feb 2013 13:06:52
Warnock has totally lost the plot, Barkley sent back why? what's wrong with Tongue, David Somma, Ryan Hall
Warnock is still there because we can not afford to sack him
Atkins now 6/1 to be the next leeds boss, with Betvictor
Somma has had an injury set back, but I can't understand Tonge who played evey game when he was on loan doesn't get a kick now that we have paid money for him. Also why did we choose to take hall on a permanent deal when NW clearly doesn't think he's good enough to get in the team. completely baffling
The problem is why sack Warnock now and have to pay him off, when he is out of contract in May, not going to happen.
Lets organise a whip round
I think that we would be surprised how much we would collect
13 Feb 2013 12:52:32
Peterborough have managed to gain 4 points on us in the last 10 championship games could we be heading for relegation?
We need roughly 8 points from 15 remaining games to stay up. Anyone who thinks we can't get this needs to really question themselves. We aren't playing well but we will no doubt get these points looking at the games left, especially with our home record.
13 Feb 2013 12:45:04
think after last nights performance we can safely say play offs is a no go! all the promises made by gfh are false think its time warnock went, tried his hardest but it just wasnt good enough. Bring in adkins who likes to play the better, passing football other than the hoof and hope football! MOT
13 feb 2013 12:19:16
season over - relegation battle now on - nearer relegation than top six. we've got no money, no investment. gfh are a joke - what qualifications have they got to say they want to make sure lufc get the right people investing in the the club, when they've only been doing the job for the last 3 months. tell you now, bates still pulling the strings, gfh puppets - never thought i'd say it, but gfh out!
13 Feb 2013 11:51:18
GFH need to sort out why they bought are once great club. Who buys a club and then turns round and says, We are looking for people to buy into the club, WTF!
I said ages ago, these people have no money and are just looking to make £. I think they thought buying the club and us thinking Bates had no say in it or running of it. We would come back in are thousands. Then they too could enjoy the spoils and sell assets. Didn't take long for them to call out, abandon ship.
This season was over before it even began. The only reason why Warnock was made manager is, in his early promotions he managed to find some bargain players on the cheap and luckly they turned into good players, who in turn got him promotion and this is what GFH were hoping to happen. 15 games left and fans have nothing to keep the buzz alive. Gates will fall rapid now there is not a cat in hells chance of getting to the promise land.
Selling are 19 goal striker for Morrison and £250,000, has to go down as one of the worst decisions, half way through a season I have ever seen. I'm dieing to hear what GFH have to say on the 18th. They will go from, it's a bright future to back to the future. Bates must be laughing at what they have done and saying to haigh, " Hello macfly, is there anybody in there. "
I guess we can only hope GFH sell the club because I don't see a big season next season and got knows what the summer will be like. We will probably spend less than the summer before and that's how you sell season tickets. I feel sorry for the few hundred that bought half season tickets, WOW! 2 games into that and its all over.
I do wish Warnock would follow his own advise and leave the minute the fans are not onside. How offside do you have to get, for him to get it into his head, he's a relic of a by gone age. Who plays the same 11 for 90 mins and doesn't bring on 1 sub. Yet we can all see the game is starting to get on top and the players are dead on there feet at 30+. Then the other team score and that is the only way Warnock will play any of the subs.
I say it's time to change the manager, which will give the new one time to look over the players and see who fits the bill.
BARMY ARMY!
mot4life
13 Feb 2013 11:41:52
was at boro last night found out we could pay on the night so took the afternoon off work drove a 300 mile round trip all the talk on the way up 2 the game was 2nights the night we close that gap how wrong we were we are not capable of stringing 3 passes together never mind 3 wins I said let's back the boss a few games ago yet myself and many other leeds fans have spent far too much time and money following nothing more than a pipe dream times up time to make the change get a new boss in now b4 the gap is too big to get back sorry neil but you have never been the boss at a big club we are too big for you a massive club like ours demands a big name at the helm gfh show your balls and get us that man
13 Feb 2013 11:07:01
the best thing gfh capital can do is sell to the yorkshire consortium yes yorkshire consortium get rid of bates once and for all. imo bates has used gfh capital to investest money in the past and got to no david haigh very well asked him to front a takeover to keep the heat off bates why on earth would you buy a club and keep bates as president you just would not what has changed since the takeover ok they have slashed ticket prices but no investment in the team whatsoever the club is being run in exactly the same way bates has run it for the last 8 years with very little investment in the team its not rocket science to get to the truth of what has happened gfh capital are just a front simply as peas
13 Feb 2013 10:40:57
Well neil, you always said that as long as you have the majority of fans on your side you will stay. If this forum is anything to go by it looks like its a majority against. don't get me wrong, I like you and I think that most of the fans were on your side at the start, and maybe we ll never know the limits you were allowed to go to about players in and out or about anything that's going on or has gone on at the club, but the reality is, we are an average team playing poor tactics and that is down to you. I still can't believe how underwhelming our signings were in jan considering we were told months ago that a list was being drawn up of players wanted. We swap our top goalscorer for a second rate striker and 50p, we get some guy with more letters to his name than goals, and we get an 'ex' england international, says it all, 'ex'. Now, the only 'ex' I want to hear about is 'neil warnock our ex manager'
MOT IrishWhite
Mr W has definately lost the fans, it might not be all his fault but he knows the rules in football. Loose the fans, loose your job. The falling gates are telling GFH that everyone is voting the only way they can, with their feet. I went to my first game at Elland Road in 1964, I've played a bit, coached a bit and watched a bit, enjoyed a box and season tickets but refuse to invest any more money. If you want it to happen, vote with your feet.
People won't vote with there feet because we never do it isn't the done thing, you have to moan and complain and still put up with Bates and his croanies I for one don't spend a penny any more until that man and HIS investment bank has gone!
13 Feb 2013 10:39:38
Just looked at the league table. We are eight points off the play off places. And eight points off the relegation places. With the way we are playing if we only take say one point from the next six. Forget promotion we are bang in a relegation fight. And the best bit is reading warnocks interview on teletext. He quotes: We are having a good season. Please warnock do theecent thing and walk before we end up back where we were.
Must admit grayson was doing a better job, then again he was a leeds fan, MOT
13 Feb 2013 10:35:18
Okay, I am now at a point, as an OPTIMISTIC fan, that I never thought i'd reach.
I really don't understand what is going on at Leeds.
I really rated NW early on, and was ecstatic at his appointment, but now that I have actually thought about it, I really believe that he isn't the man for the job anymore. I think he hasn't had the right backing from directors, granted. But his managerial decisions have been very suspect and questionable. I wouldn't pay £750k for Chris Burke, would I'm sure Birmingham would have negotiated a new price with their current finacial downfall, as we can all relate to (Lennon, Kewell at bargain prices etc. ) But he seems so pigheaded lately as if he is the messiah or something at ER but he needs to start listening to the fans.
Why bring in Habibou on loan (unlucky with his first touch by the way) and only play him for 5 minutes at the end of a game we are already losing?
Why bench Diouf, who has been our most consistent and top performer this season, no doubt?
Why send back Barkley that has proven consistenltly for other rival clubs he is more than capable at this level?
Why persist playing Paddy Kenny (that cost us at Wolves) when Jamie Ashdown has been impeccable during our cup runs?
Morison and Warnock are really good signings in my opinion so no critisism there from me.
Why not continue with pass and move during the ENTIRE match, when we proved first half vs Boro last night and Second half vs Brum in the FA CUP that it is effective and we are pretty damn good at it when we do it?
What I find ironic is that players say when they join us, that it was Neil Warnock's stature and history that has brought them to the club, but these same players never stay the duration of their loans or don't want to come back (Barkley, Tate and Thomas as examples?)
I have a feeling the players are losing faith in Neil. I really believe we need a change, it would be a breath of fresh air and I believe we possibly could push at the playoffs, but only with a change in manager.
Thank you for trying Neil, thank you and your staff, but I don't think this is the club for you, we are not like QPR, Sheffield United or Crystal Palace. We are Leeds United and much bigger than those three. Maybe this job was a job too big?
MOT
AntW
Well said mate, 100% agree
13 Feb 2013 10:34:44
gotta disagree with a lot of recent posts
i want to see neil warnock stay for
another full season
hopefully over the summer he will get the team he wants
and not just gap fillers brought in to keep a vocal minority happyy
TS
If you go to games you'll be there by yourself
13 Feb 2013 14:24:48
See NW stay another year! You ain't bin to ER for a while mate! I've been taking my six year old son for the past 18 mth and i'm struggling to keep him interested in the dross on show, I thought along with a lot of other Leeds fans that Nw was the rite man for the job but i'm afraid it's time for a change before its too late and were fighting a relegation battle. LUFC 4 life APN-ing63
13 Feb 2013 10:30:04
I think Warnock is doing ok but the players
Need to do better I think mix it right up
For the next fixture
My team would would be
Ashdown
Byram/Lees/Peace/Warnock
Hall/Green/Austin/Diouf
Morrison/Habibou
Tell them to go out there a prove me wrong
For sticking with the others
Impress me and the shirt is yours next
Week!
Too many know and think they will start
Anyone who has Austin and habibou in a team has his sights set on division 1. JD
If you think warnock is doing ok, then you I am afraid are not doing ok, you need to be picked up a put in a very tight fitting white jacket, by people in white jackets and put in a white van, taken to a white room and have electric currents put through you.
I think it's a bit quick turning on Habibou when he's only played about 15 minutes!
13 Feb 2013 09:57:30
What a person Warnock is letting Poleon out on loan. He should be on our bench or even getting a look in at a start as we look to rebuild for next season - I highly doubt that it will be a better experience getting some games at Sheff Utd rather than a few sub appearances for Leeds. The saving in his wage will not make much of a dent either in allowing us to bring someone else in.
Oh, I see what's happening here - clear someone out on loan to make us all think the great white hope is coming in on loan to save our season. What a novel tactic!
Sack this dinosaur Warnock now and let a new manager have a look at his squad of players ahead of the close season so he has a better time to assess what we need.
Especially when his comment last night was "i can't go on the pitch and put these chances away myself?" no you can't but you can stop the club selling our top scorer and replacing him with a workhorse (morrission) and not loan out another striker with pace (poleon) whilst one of our other backup strikers is now out injured (somma)! Warnock is a joke but we have owners who are looking like they are a real let down, sack warnock now!
Warnock has become a total muppet. He keeps signing up players and never playing them and never giving current players a chance, including the youth. He flogs our only decent goalscorer for another muppet. We will be changing name soon to Muppet Utd unless we sack the incompetent muppet and find someone who is actually a football manager.
Warnock has become a total muppet. He keeps signing up players and never playing them and never giving current players a chance, including the youth. He flogs our only decent goalscorer for another player. We need to find someone who is actually a better football manager.
13 Feb 2013 09:50:22
To reach the 75 points needed to get to the play offs we need to win 11 out of our remaining 15 games. I'm sorry but that's not going to happen. Warnock is deluded if he thinks we can.
At this moment I'd settle for three wins to see us over the 50 point mark and achieve safety!
More chance of platting fog than getting into playoffs we;ve got more chance of relegation league1 here we come thanks GFH AND BATES.
13 Feb 2013 09:40:44
I took my 7 year old son to his FIRST ever football match last night and I chose the Leeds v Boro game because we live half an hour from the ground and he has school today.
He doesn't really like football and I though it would be the ideal opportunity to get him into it ( hopefully Leeds )
NEEDLESS to say after that shocking display he is still not interested in football and never wants to go again : - (
Here's to the future of Leeds attendances when Leeds United can't even impress 7 year old boys with their hoofball tactics!
Forever White. but not my son unfortunately : - (
I didn't get in to watching football (though I did like to play) until I was about 14 - used to go with my dad at about that age. When you go as a young kid is seems like an eternity sitting there.
All I can say is as the mind develops as one gets older, ones preferences for things change, so there is still a chance he might change his mind mate.
I suppose you have a point. one good thing is that if he doesn't like football at all then he won't end up supporting LOL : -)
Good post.
i have a 2year old whom i'm desperate to become a leeds nut in the next few years. but with his dads interest at an all time low and playing as we are he's more likely to get bullied supporting leeds and laughed at. we need to act now to secure the new generation of fans. shrew leeds
Good post.
i have a 2year old whom i'm desperate to become a leeds nut in the next few years. but with his dads interest at an all time low and playing as we are he's more likely to get bullied supporting leeds and laughed at. we need to act now to secure the new generation of fans. shrew leeds
13 Feb 2013 09:17:58
I Love Leeds but i've just had enough now until things change drastically. No desire, no creativity, no pace. The second half last night was simply a case of waiting for Boro to score. I can't afford to be paying that sort of money to come away that deflated. If GFH won't invest any money into the club then neither will I.
I've always been a supporter of Warnock and have defended him in the past (even after watching one of the wrost Leeds displays i've ever seen against Barnsley, last night's 2nd half was nearly as bad) but surely Warnock is out of time. Poor team selection - constantly starting Brown, only just found Pelts best position, poor signings - Tongue and Hall don't even play! and to top it all off, sending back one of the most promising young players in English football because "he couldn't be guarenteed game time" even though, when he has played he was the best player for leeds. 8 points off 6th with games running out I think it MUST be time for a change. Get someone else in NOW and start building for next season and IF we do get a good run of games out of those left then it's a bonus.
It's not all Warnock though. I always thought that if we got upto the Jan transfer window still in touching distance of the the playoffs we would go up. The investment GFH promised would go into the squad I thought we would get the likes of Boyd & Burke, Mackail-Smith etc and make a real push for promotion. Instead we swap our top scorer for (after last nights performance) someone who is a million miles off the standard that even Becchio set and random Loanee who is ONLY known for throwing a duck. On top of this, even more talk of ANOTHER takeover which can only cause more uncertainty on & off the pitch and must prove that GFH are skint - skint Arabs? could only happen at Leeds.
I don't give a S*#t about Citeh on Sunday, I agree it's a bonus and don't get me wrong, if by some miracle we win I will be delighted but we have played more games this season that any other championship team because of these cup wins and apart from a little bit of cash what has it achieved? the money we earned from it has gone into warming our subs bench up. All I care about is promotion and getting back into the league where we belong. we are NO WAY near good enough to achieve that this season.
Dissapointment, frustration, uncertainty - GFH and Warnock i've had enough.
MOT
Were going down if all our fans are liike that, keep your chin up and hope for the best, even if the best is next season.
13 Feb 2013 09:07:32
Not normally the negative type, more a glass half full type as NW would put it, but this too much I will always back leeds as I will show by being and present as I can be at leeds home games, regardless of win, lose or draw, but warnock needs to leave. He has worked under very tight constraints but even so we should have won last night.
Give a young manager a chance and start fresh next year. Its going to take one hell of a run to turn this around now.
Luciano ls11
My glass is totally full - I'm trying to drown my sorrows mate!
Warnock says were having a good season, laugh I nearly cracked a rib
13 Feb 2013 08:54:02
This is real life, not like in the films when the 'Has Been Manager' returns for one last try and against all the odds turns a team of tryers into the greatest thing on the planet!
Real life is arriving at a team with some talent in it, selling them on and re-placing them with players that are made to look like journeymen because of the old fashioned tactics, then trying to convince everyone that it's just bad luck that our form dissapears! Any wonder the fans are frustrated at you? And what happens when you loose the fans?
In real life, you make your own luck so take a good look at yourself Mr W, that retirment home has a room with your name on it; It's booked for next week!
13 Feb 2013 08:28:06
GFH LOOK AND LISTEN
SACK WARNOCK or crowds will fall fall fall and you will lose so much money in a short space of time. Thanks for dropping prices but only way to get crowds back is to sack wRnock get a young manager in and play good football oh and win a game would be nice too!
13 Feb 2013 08:25:47
The general view on the site, correctly, is the season is finished. For promotion it is. Even if we somehow scrapped in to the play offs we wouldn't win and then we would be 5 weeks behind everyone else planning for 2013/14.
The season isn't over though, from a preparation point of view. We should be planning to use the remaining games to get a head start for next season. Game time for Dawson, Poleon and others. Determine exactly what offensive and defensive tactics are going to be and drill those that will be here next season in to understanding what is needed.
£10 a ticket for the last games with kids under 14 getting in free. that is because we want 20+k crowds to give the team support and create what the atmosphere would be like if we really were MOT.
Mr Warnock plodding on and scaping 1. 0 wins at home and his obscure ways away from home [what are squads of 16 for!] will see 12k crowds whingeing and sending the likes of Byram straight in to the hands of Delia et al
Let's have a party on sunday with nothing to lose and then let's be brave. Let's plan for next season. TeeCee
Unfortunately Poleon is now being lent out to Sheffield United, when he should be playing for LEEDS United!
Shrewd move, Mr Warnock, shows where your loyalties lie?
13 Feb 2013 08:01:46
Warnock is mad as a hatter
We are getting beat by everyone and he is talking rubbish. Should have won this games and lots more and run Chelsea close. Jesus, what utter rubbish. Fans should be glass half full. Are you serious. How can we be half full when you dish up rubbish and talk delusional crap. I really think gfh are doing ok, slowly but surely doing bits at a time. But please oh please get rid of this absolutely barking mad maniac. Gfh can't still think he is capable or even anywhere near sane. Ausman
13 Feb 2013 07:50:43
The problem lies with tactics, we have only won 2 games all season by more than one goal, running down the clock with a slender lead always leaves you vulnerable, how many times have we seen paddy kenny tie wasting at ER and players kicking the ball away, it's negative.
13 Feb 2013 07:48:03
I am afraid I too think the season is lost. Neil Warnock who I thought was our man has been found wanting. Watching Leeds under Warnock is like watching the Expendables. Talentless has beens. Just the way Warnock likes them.
His tactics last night were awful even the fans knew we needed to make some changes and he didn't make them until the game was lost.
I cannot keep spending my hard earned cash following dross and filling the coffers of the poorest Arab investment company in the whole of the Arabian Peninsula.
You cannot blame the supporters who have given up spending the cash when the owners don't have the commitment or desire to spend.
Can anyone think of a worse buyout in English Football. How disappointed am I.
Yeah portsmouth look at the state there in that's what happens when you have owners that haven't a clue how to run a football club.
I would rather GFH than the AL-Hasawi regime at Forest who were supposedly interested in buying us. Maybe they would sack NW but then his successors too. I don't think GFH are poor, just biding their time, a sensible approach in my view. However, I do think it is time a bright, young manager took control. NW thanks for your efforts but it is time to go. MOT Ron.
Why have a go at Forest's owners?Is this the same Al-Hasawi family that bought Forest for £32m paid off any debts and paid for 18 new players and other investment in the club. It show they at least have the money. GFH have not even opened their wallet yet. A little bit of jealousy me thinks. Yes you do need to sack Warnock, but do GFH have the money to pay him off?
13 Feb 2013 07:07:07
Pretty sure Warnock suggested if he had started himself upfront we would have won the last 3 matches!
Is he going to sign himself- wouldn't surprise me me- deluded!
Maybe that's why he signed the other 'Warnock' - he thinks the referee won't notice if he puts himself on the pitch instead.
13 Feb 2013 02:15:22
I can't believe at the press conferences GFH were saying we have money to spend and was looking at building for the future. Then a month down the line there looking to sell us for a little profit. So much for Bates saying he would only sell to the right people who had the funds to build for the future. GUTTED
When have GFH said they're going to sell for profit? All they've said is that they've rejected a bid for a 51% stake in the club and are looking for new investors. Doesn't sound like they want to sell out to me, just trying to get more finance in surely a good idea. Mind you, after all the negative criticism they're getting on here I wouldn't be surprised if they walked away. he biggest killer at Leeds is the over-ambition of our fans. It's going to take some time to unravel the mweess of the last eight years, stay patient. MOT Ron
13 Feb 2013 01:34:27
Love leeds
Love good football
Love winning
Love success
None of these are on warnocks like to do list
If gfh can't see how crap he. Current team and tactics are we are in serious trouble
It's so bloody simple. Just sack the person. It's not hard or even unfair. It's simply the logical thing to do.
I live in Australia and dread checking g my phone out for the mid week results. I just expect us to lose and most of the time we do.
If gfh don't sack him by the weekend. Give them one empty elland rd and he will be gone Saturday 4. 50pm. It's not a nice thing to say or do but one major action will get the result we all want instantly. Or why dosent he just man up and leave?
Ausman
13 Feb 2013 00:17:44
THE SEASON ENDS: Come Sunday I think I'm going to write off this season and take up fishing. I lived in hope and with some expectation that we could achieve a playoff spot. The GFH deal gave me hope and I had this idea that somehow a few signings would maintain enthusiasm til the end. Alas there are no signings worthy of enthusiasm, there is no more fight in the team and nothing to achieve from any effort from Sunday. I will show my discontent by saving my hard earned money until I have something to buy into and faith that my commitment will be rewarded with the club and players displaying this same commitment and passion. I love you with all my heart but I don't see it in the hearts of those who play for 'me' on the pitch or the club who promote but do diddly to maintain my desire.
I agree, already got Blackpool ticket, but finding it hard to drum up some enthusiasm to go.
Total agree with poster 2 got my ticket for blackpool game might as well go late night shopping with her in doors sounds a better option
Never though I would hear myself saying this but I hope we get spanked on sunday to help warnock through the door, every second he remains in charge is a second wasted.
13 Feb 2013 00:11:22
Warnock you're embarrassing time to go GFH what a joke you are full of promises you can't deliver sell up now to someone who wants and has the desire to take us into the premiership leeds forever but not with GFH
13 Feb 2013 00:01:37
I 'm not a fan of warnock and would prefer him to go now but in his defence I can't beleive he took the job expecting the takeover to turn out how it has. Him and jones talked of exciting times ahead in the summer. Having said that still the league is so poor should still have enough to be in top 6 if he'd done his job properly. He persisted with peltier at left back for far to long when we had to better left backs and evrryone else had seen peltiers best performances were at centre back and now he's commited us long term to another left back. He openly admitted during our best run of the season that the team selection at the time without either brown or austin was forced upon him and had led to us playing more football, he then resorted to brown & austin as soon as available. He made the terrible decision to use all his subs against watford after 45 mins and has wasted what limited funds we have by making hall and tongue permanent and now no longer involves them and signs a quality young player on loan and plays him out of position or not at al plus pursued pearce as his priority and he no longer gets a game. Add to this that he seems to have seen a different game to everyone else who watched and the fact that he only ever blames players he hasn't signed when things go wrong. Top 6 should have been easy this year but he's messed up even if the takeover was not as expected. i'm not sure where our club is going now as there seems to be no directio,