Leeds Banter Archive April 14 2016

 

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14 Apr 2016 21:35:00
Oh no I've been sacked! Lol Cellino didn't like me saying we ain't going nowhere fast! Oh we'll back to spying for mi5 hard life! Lol.

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14 Apr 2016 20:59:57
Ok ok it's me! I'm paid a vast amount of money to come on here! Lol sigh! That's another grand in the sky rocket! Lol.

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14 Apr 2016 21:16:13
I knew it.

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14 Apr 2016 21:22:17
Shoot knew I was missing out on the cash. again.

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14 Apr 2016 18:46:42
This article about Leeds in Italian media, says it all really, my only question is how can anybody defend the indefensible?
Our once great club dragged by successive administrations to unimaginable depths. When will it end, over 45 years as a supporter its just a disgrace. The little piece about the fans paid to write on social media which reads "through the scoop on supporters paid to write on social media " .
I wonder if that is happening currently on this site? ( (somewhat poor translation from Italian in the following article )
Massimo Cellino and Leeds United losing their court case this over sexual discrimination has of course made its way back to Italy. The reaction to the individual event hasn't been full of opinions from the Italian media, other than them saying it's the latest in a long line of bad news stories and further evidence that these are dark days for Cellino.

Gazzetta dello Sport: 'The adventure of Massimo Cellino as Leeds owner is proving increasingly problematic. The results are disappointing in the league, the fans are in revolt, and there are plenty of problems off the field. '

Gazzetta then go on to list the problems which Leeds fans already know all too well.

Sardenga Sport: 'Increasingly complicated is the tenure of Massimo Cellino as owner of Leeds: from 15th place in the Championship, to the fans who have long (and still) been hostile, through the scoop on supporters paid to write on social media, and other histrionic behavior unfamiliar to the British. '

Those are just two example of a general feeling that things must now be at their lowest point, with the Italian media wondering what more can possibly happen with Cellino at Leeds United?

Some Italian fans feel sorry for the Leeds owner, with one commenting under the Gazzetta article that it was typical English political correctness, although he then went on to complain about Italians being thought of as mafia, which slightly diluted his point.

The Italian media are bored of having big opinions on this.

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14 Apr 2016 19:49:38
Not saying these are great times but Leeds it there lowest point a few years ago when all our prize possessions where sold not to the highest bidder but to anyone with a pound to spend . This was all down to ridsdale who the media loved and behind the smile was gambling with our club. Now people might not like or respect cellino but so far he has kept our club alive.

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14 Apr 2016 20:10:49
Who cares. Hardly relevant to football matters. I don't personally give a dam about off field politics. It's all about winning football matches, getting better players and prem return. All large companies have minor battles at board room level. Ours just seem more public.

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14 Apr 2016 20:17:41
hopefully a rich itialian might read and buy the club. unlikely though.

someone needs to tell italy this is not our low point by any means. league one is lower. like a whole league lower.

the fans up in arms is about 1% of the fans and they are all sposnered by bates or GFH.

when will people just leave leeds alone.

im pleased with finshing 15th in championship, because I remember fishing 24th not that long ago. now that was painful and a low point.

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14 Apr 2016 20:27:07
Good point Trev, if MC takes a punt next season and puts 15/ 20 mill into playing squad, ( Not financed through selling current assets) then few would bleat about his frequent, ill-advised observations on, for example, women in the workplace.
He will soon learn that his beliefs in this regard will cost him in compo, so hopefully he WILL learn.
Don't quite get your point PA about the Italian media article, . so what, nothing new there, just regurgitated from the english press to fill space and MC will be news in Italy because he had, and still has a media profile there.

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14 Apr 2016 20:44:15
BW agree with you the press just loves jumping on everything negative about us, gets boring really.

Interested to read about the "hearsay" comment on OS, if true (and who knows) then it is not allowed in our law but it seems ok to mention this in a tribunal setting as it makes good headlines. I didn't know about MC history with women teams etc but you will have noticed that our great YEP could not even bother to mention those facts as balanced reporting seems lacking when talking about Leeds. That is what really cheeses me off is that every story is so bias against us and they never bother to try and balance it so we can easy just believe the worst.

End of day they made a mistake by sacking her the way they did, lessons need to be learnt but that's it really, bring on the footie on Saturday as that is what matters.

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15 Apr 2016 03:11:43
Trev
How can you be so short-sighted? Off the field? Lucy Ward was very much on the field. Go ask Milner and Delph those insignificant international midfielders playing for PL clubs.
Suspending Thommo then firing Redders and Ward was dumb. Allowing court cases like this dumber. You really think we will attract another promising teenager again? What about getting those already here to sign a professional contract or extension? Talk about an own goal. Matters off the field do have an effect on the field but in this case Ward was very much on those green blades you are so concerned about.

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15 Apr 2016 09:00:40
Sorry neither ward or redfearn will be missed. We have some excellent talent in youth teams and there is no reason why that will stop. Wards comments are heresay, cellino told me he would love to have a woman manager at leeds.

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15 Apr 2016 10:59:04
George can you hear some of your statements?

Do you really think leeds will attaract another promising teenager again? No George you are right, leeds will never ever ever bring anther good youth player though its ranks, the current crop of lewis, taylor, mowatt, bryam, phillps etc are a thing of the past. I can not see players like peacock-farrell, vann and a few others that fans are saying have promise coming through.

and one thing we can be sure of in the next 100 years, leeds/ yorkshire will not produce any talent and if they do there is not a chance of them coming to leeds.

anyway back to the real world.

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15 Apr 2016 13:23:17
Bermo
You got SFB.
We did not lose Taiwo, Woods, Rose and Lennon. They still at the club.
Promising youngsters don't have mommies who won't be offended by Cellino. You are right.

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15 Apr 2016 14:56:31
no you go NFS,

they went to better clubs for better wages as is the case with football.

if this happened at barac or real could you see players going I ain't going there because my mommie was offended. get real

similar happened at chealsea so I guess their youth is in trouble now as well because the mums might be upset

in football money and results talk, it is all about status not off field rubbish like this.

you got the hump with leeds at the moment and to a degree I can understand why but you are jumping on every negitive and coming up with some outragous statments.

if you really think this will affect our youth then that's you opinion and you are welcome to it, I would say going into league 1 and admin affect it more and we have still done ok since so I personally would not worry.

this will all be forgetten next week.

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15 Apr 2016 15:40:52
finally the four you mentioned all have nothing to do with this argument that happened well before MC and all this so it is irrelevent, we lost more since. also woods and twio were pony so no real loss there, delph and co that went under bates hurt me more, maybe bates tried to do a benny hill sketch the it offeded deplhs mum so they all jumped ship?

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15 Apr 2016 16:21:39
What will be forgotten.?

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15 Apr 2016 16:23:34
Bermuda
The authorities are examining this. Obviously no further fine or points deduction is possible though because we are Leeds and the FA and FL love us.

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14 Apr 2016 18:35:23
Totally random comment but, if city were to win the champions league and finish in the top four, would man yooo qualify for the tournament by finishing fifth? God I hope not! This thought has given me a sleepless night. Ed, can you please put me out of my misery?

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{Ed001's Note - would that really bother you so much??}

14 Apr 2016 18:49:52
Man utd would not qualify by finishing 5th. e ven if city win it and finish top 4 . We still only get 4 places in the Champs L.

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{Ed001's Note - this season the rules have changed. Though I believe it is if the winner of the EL also gets top 4 that an extra place is awarded. Not 100% as UEFA competition holds little interest to me.}

14 Apr 2016 18:56:57
not sure but don't think it would as thier is limit to teams from one country so as winners they would just take the spot. if they finish 45th asnd win it they would rule out whoever is 4th due to same limit rule as happened with spurs and chelasea few seasons back if I remember correctly.

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15 Apr 2016 06:19:35
Yes ed, unfortunately it does bother me that much . Think 5 will go in cause spain had 5 in this season as seville won the EL. Thankyou, can breathe again now.

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{Ed001's Note - I am surprised it matters to you. I guess it must be the Lancaster bit that is the reason behind it mattering?}

15 Apr 2016 08:49:01
Hahaha. quality ed.

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14 Apr 2016 18:01:42
Speedy I agree but is it him or manager who doesn't think he fits in our plans? I used to like mowatt where's it gone wrong for the lad?

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14 Apr 2016 18:45:20
Not sure Pete. But I note you haven't been on that short course yet I recommended to you :)

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14 Apr 2016 18:58:40
gone wrong he keeps being played on the wing, he is like lampard imagine fat frank playing the role mowatt is being asked to? play the lad in the right place or don't play him. things like this make me question the fat man.

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14 Apr 2016 16:39:28
It's a sad reflection on the lack of progress he has made this season that we probably won't miss Alex Mowatt for the next 3 games.

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14 Apr 2016 17:00:26
Put Casper Sloth in, see if he can put in a few performances, maybe we could get a fee for him, alternatively if he looks good and wants to stay, sell Mowatt 3 to 4 mill should do it.

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14 Apr 2016 17:19:28
Totally agree Proc. Would love to see Caspar given a few games.

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14 Apr 2016 18:22:19
Can't work out the Sloth situation. When he signed it looked like he was pick of h. He had represented his country and given England the run around. When he arrived there was nothing spectacular but again, like some others, he was played out of position. He was given a chance against Sunderland in the cup and played well but was then dropped and never picked up. He's been professional, kept his head down and worked hard with the under 21s. I don't get it. SE saying in his own defence 'previous managers haven't played him' doesn't clarify anything. Like many things at ER at the moment it's doesn't make a lot of sense at first sight. There might things in the background but there is no evidence of this I can see. Its not as if our attacking midfield has been outstanding.

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14 Apr 2016 16:26:48
Wex I've been saying this for months! If they are that flush to spend money on posters and fly by posters then put your money where your mouth is and reveal your true worth?

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14 Apr 2016 17:03:07
This is a group of less than 100 people who seem to think they speak for all Leeds fans . This site has lots of posters and I don't think they speak for anyone on here.

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14 Apr 2016 17:57:37
They def don't speak for me wex. If they changed to GFH out, I'd probably join.

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14 Apr 2016 18:41:35
If they changed to gfh lots of us would support that funny how they haven't anything to say about gfh.

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14 Apr 2016 19:02:17
they are GFH that can be the only reason for it, no one in right mind hates MC more than GFH and bates other than GFH and bates, they are either morons or attached to the evil ones. they want to push MC out to take over at cut price and kill leeds forever. for this reason alone I am behind MC 100%.

some may say this is far fetched or I have no proof but I really can not think of any other locigal reason behind this/ them.

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14 Apr 2016 15:45:32
Not been up on the sending off and banning rules what is the difference between silvestris red card providing it wad a straight red and mowatt, s?

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14 Apr 2016 17:02:24
We are Leeds and you should understand by now that any chance that the League have to ban our players bares no relevance to the offence committed.

We could trip someone over in the bar area and get a points deduction.

I really don't understand how Silvestri gets a one match ban and Mowatt ends up with a thee match one, was it because we dared question a crap refereeing decision?

This just goes on and on.

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14 Apr 2016 14:30:53
I would love to know exactly how our stadium rental deal compares to that of whufc? They get 65k stadium for 2.5m a year and do not have to pay any of the running costs. Tenancy agreement only released following FOI request. Shame we cannot compel our landlords to reveal in a similar way!

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14 Apr 2016 10:47:24
Just after reading article in yep with statement from " Massimo to go " firstly is anyone on here a member of this group and secondly they're calling for cellino to sell to one of the more credible buyers wanting to buy Leeds United. I just want to ask who are these"groups of more credible buyers" and why not call on one of these groups to make an offer if they're out there.

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14 Apr 2016 13:36:50
please this post makes far too much sense for the massimo out tribe as it would require answers such as who is a buyer?

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14 Apr 2016 13:39:27
Wex

You hit the nail on the head mate, there are no credible (i. e. people who will pay what MC needs to get money back) who want to buy us, so what these people are saying is that he should just sell anyway as they don't like him.

I don't normally reply to the YEP but I did this time saying that if you or I had invested money into say for example buying a house we liked in a nice street and then a few of the neighbours said I should just sell the house asap as they didn't like me what would you do?
No way I would do so if no one wanted to buy it at a fair price, also what happens if these muppets don't like the new owners? Do they then demand the same thing? I am no real fan of MC but he is better than Bates/ GFH.

At the end of the day MC paid the money when no one else would, so if we can find someone better then great but can't expect the man just to give the club away because the YEP says so, not how things work in this country last time I checked.

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14 Apr 2016 14:50:03
again great post DG this is pretty much my sentiments, he has invested he has improved the club a little, he has saved us from worse and people with no real idea have demanded he goes.

even if MC was happy to let club go for a quid I don't think anyone has the money to keep leeds going as we are not a sound buisness investment even if you buy the club you then have to run it and the fans demand 20mill and stupid wages on players because leeds is a prem club.

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14 Apr 2016 15:31:04
Agree with all the above, if some one came in with a good offer think cellino would be happy to sell. Who would do that when they know they will be the next target if the children don't get their own way.

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14 Apr 2016 15:34:11
Dg can't agree more all this talk of getting M C out, firstly he was the only person who came forwards to buy the club or should I say the lions share . Secondly all this talk of him selling, well why should he give it away, he should get a fair price and I do not believe as yet anybody has come forward with that offer.
Also all this talk of groups in the past did they ever really have the money?

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14 Apr 2016 16:30:55
Agree lad's with the above posts! MC saved the club! GFH are the real villians in all of this! Why is there no campaign to oust them?

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14 Apr 2016 18:18:11
I was just about to post the same thing. 'GFH out'

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14 Apr 2016 20:17:59
Agree with everyone above.

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15 Apr 2016 12:00:30
Bige were people being childish when they wanted bates out? Papa was the first one to say there were no buyers and ask the "bates out" protesters to put their money up.

Most people want Cellino to look for a buyer. For the sake of the club you must see they are right. Those who say he is better than bates and GFH, maybe right. But until he bought us, you didn't know he existed.

So quite possibly there is someone out there who is better than massive ego. The club is being run in a shambolic state and the Lucy Ward case has highlighted all the shortcomings of Cellino. TA shut down and half the youth squad ill as there are no cleaners.

No security at the place. No management structure throughout the club. No scouting system. No CEO. No head of recruitment. No head of academy. Coach on a rolling contract. No forward planning, no long term,medium turn or even short term plan. Just vague statements coaches job is to "avoid relegation".

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14 Apr 2016 07:29:25
Well once again we're in the newspapers for all the wrong reasons. Once again our club has been accused of not knowing laws, this time employment laws. The fact that Cellino didn't attend yesterday is an absolute discrete. Surely, a statement should have come from the club that our glorious leader did not make such pathetic sexist comments. Now the club will forced to pay out more money and be investigated by the football authorities. Yesterday's revaluations prove that Cellino is not fit to run any organisation,let alone our once proud club. Yet another shameful episode of massive egos reign. Defend this nonsense, apologists. My partner who has no interest in football questioned how someone with such views could be in charge of Leeds United. Maybe there's someone on here who can enlighten everyone.

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14 Apr 2016 09:40:00
he can run our club because no one else wants to, if villa can not find a buyer for last three years what chance do we have.

people at the top often have strong opinionated views and say silly things, look at forest, chealsea, blackpool. I do not agree with this but it is becoming common now, just as papers hate leeds we get more bad press (cue rant from Speedy)

dont read the papers

innocent until proven guilty lots of sexisim running round at the moment maybe people are 'working an angle'

i think mc will be out soon, I think he will go to villa getting us what we want mc out. with some luck GFH will get 100% of club, maybe bates will come back or maybe randy learner will do a club swop. all more likely than another buyer. so let's hope MC leaves as the future without him looks so much better doesn't smart leeds fans?

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14 Apr 2016 10:41:56
Don't get me started on the press BW.
BUT in terms of MC. There are people who have been pro him (me generally) and anti him - but this Lucy Ward debacle is indefensible. I cannot think of anything to excuse his behaviour, and I think this is going to hasten his exit more than anything that's gone on before. To be honest, I don't really care about dodgy tax dealings, but racism, sexism, homophobia etc. should have no place in football. I'll finally come off the fence. HE SHOULD GO.

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14 Apr 2016 11:51:47
What this case has shown BW, is that their is no structure at the club. This is not the press or the FL, but an employment tribunal that has opened the lid on how badly we are run. Remember when we wanted rid of bates,did people come out saying there wasn't a buyer out there, so stick with unkle ken. As for not reading the papers are you saying "let's be ignorant". Lucy Ward's legal team are going to ask the fa to look into Cellino's running of Leeds. Well said Speedy. No room in football for any of this. We have always had a lot of female support at Leeds, will they be rushing out to buy season tickets after the latest statement by our leader.

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14 Apr 2016 11:50:22
Speedy you've made a few sexist comments on this site yourself as have I and many others is it just in football there's no place for it.

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14 Apr 2016 12:29:16
That's true wex. There's no place for it anywhere when it's genuinely meant, but I hope we can all see the difference between banter and what happened / is happening at ER.
Certainly can't happen, even as banter in the workplace between a boss and an employee.

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14 Apr 2016 13:36:48
I agree with Speedo, he HAS to go.
Don't think I would send my son to the Leeds Academy after hearing that it is being run worse than I initially thought.
The club is being ruined from top to bottom.

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14 Apr 2016 13:42:28
not defending his actions just saying where is this buyer. press are all over it, if someone was out there wanting a buy they would say to force a cheap sell. there is no buyer, so maybe bates? or gfh? when someone comes forward I will look at their credentials as all leeds fans wouldbut no one has come forward, again. IF VILLA couldn't GET A BUYER WHEN LEARNER WAS TRYING TO SELL WHO WOULD BUY LEEDS? until this answer comes I think we are stuck with MC, I don't agree with sexism but prefer to to raping the club as bates did. and things could be worse imagine if a woman brought our club! (this is a joke before anyone tears into me)

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14 Apr 2016 15:32:19
You are right BW, he is better than Bates, despite his faults. And no, I don't see another buyer waiting around the corner Unfortunately.

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14 Apr 2016 16:30:30
and agree with speedy there is a big difference between sexist comments on here as a joke and then between a boss and someone in the work place. this is why I don't hire birds they are more trouble than they are worth even if having a nice pair of legs and some cleavage to leer on around the workplace does brighten up the office but some of them get right offish if you touch them of make a innaproiate comment, espically if made at the wrong time of the month. women eh?

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14 Apr 2016 16:36:36
BW . Behave!

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14 Apr 2016 18:03:45
One mans joke is another persons insult . The thing I noted about the case was it seemed Pearson said to someone that cellino said this . Is that not what they call " hearsay" and I didn't think that could be used in evidence or is a court different to tribunal. Maybe ed or George could clarify.

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14 Apr 2016 19:07:40
ture about one persons joke being someone elses insult, amount of jokes my plays have caused offence to makes me laugh. some jokes I understand but one that made me laugh was acompalint about my sketch to do with dyslexic cheerleaders, this letter said it was offensive towards dyslexic people and as a writer I should not make fun of the 'STUPID', my letter and spelling back proved that I was dylexic and that I took offense to being called stupid.

i did say my lawers would be in touch but I did not get another reply.

anyway back to the sexist remakers. sorry remarks.

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