Leeds Banter Archive October 15 2020

 

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15 Oct 2020 18:27:31
Gary Neville latest bs spouting on that KP would have learnt more in the past 4 to 6 weeks playing for England under Southgate

than he would have learnt in the last 4 to 6 years ( including 2 years of Bielsa )

Really Gary?! Seriously?!

God knows why channels Sky Sports and BT Sports employ the likes of footballing ' genuises' Neville, Keane, and Rio etc

I do think that Jamie Carragher is a decent / good football analyst though.

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15 Oct 2020 19:23:00
He didn’t quite say that though did he? He said he’d of learnt more in the last 4-6 weeks playing in the premier league and international level, than he would’ve in his last 46 years in championship. Playing for England and coping well, even once maguire got sent off, plus he mentions the City game too. I hate to say it, but Neville isn’t too bad a pundit, compared to the other dross we’ve seen in the past.

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15 Oct 2020 19:48:43
I don’t think Neville would spit at a family though?
Ok he can be a bit of a twit but he’s not the worst.

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15 Oct 2020 20:02:06
Ok dlLUFC4 slight amendment


But I don't think KP would have learnt a huge amount from a
couple of international games against Wales and Denmark .
And he would have learnt nothing new or of use from Southgate that he didn't already know from the master Marcelo Bielsa.

Liverpool and City games were of course challenging to be fair.

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15 Oct 2020 20:17:18
Think he ment by playing against the likes of Erickson and de bryne baz.

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15 Oct 2020 21:20:15
yeah I didn't see this as a slur on leeds or belisa just saying the step up in class or the prem, training in an England camp with Kane etc would be a good learning experience. I think neville meant well and can see what he is saying even if I can understand why many wouldn't agree.

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16 Oct 2020 10:46:00
Garrahger spits on kids.

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16 Oct 2020 12:07:53
Yes Corky. and Wex that spitting incident was indeed utterly deplorable and Carragher can consider himself very fortunate indeed he was not dismissed. I was surprised he wasn't.

I was referring in my post to solely his football punditry knowledge and analysis in which he is " decent ( quite good) " to good . better than most of the other ex footballers" pundits"

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16 Oct 2020 20:25:40
Just to add to the Neville debate. his latest stance, stating that football authorities aren’t fit to run the game fairly, and the game should be independently run, is spot on, and goes to show how much he both knows, but also cares about the game at every level. Hated him as a player, but grown to like him as a pundit, as well as an ambassador for the good of the game!

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16 Oct 2020 21:29:02
Ha Brighty ' Ambassador lol 🤣 ' Neville transparent stance is in essence purely wanting more money to reach the lower leagues.

The cynic in me would say that Neville would of course naturally be wanting more money reaching the lower leagues as he has such a huge vested interest as co owner of lower league Salford.

If he wasnt co owner of Salford and say instead U18 coach at Man U would he still have this stance and be making it known to the media : I very much doubt it!

As for the tactical ' genius ' Gary Neville he failed miserably as a coach at Valencia and just with his brother Phil, Keano, Shearer even Souness these failed coaches/ managers find themselves as ' pundits ' in default.

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17 Oct 2020 06:33:25
I have to agree with Baz here - Neville wouldn't do anything that wasn't in his own best interests and he is another of those who excells at telling people what to do but is a proven failure at actually doing it. It was amusing to hear him lament about how Rodrigo wouldn't play well for him when he was a manager at Valencia when the truth is probably that his management was useless.

Those who can coach. Those who can't become pundits.

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17 Oct 2020 08:00:43
Never said owt about him tactically or manageriallly. he’s gash at both, as we all know, but he’s a good pundit, outspoken, and is actively seeking to support the game down to grass roots level, which is where it all started for all of us who played or coached? He could have pushed to red Shirt agenda!?

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17 Oct 2020 13:01:18
Brighty you are still missing the point

Neville simply wouldn't want to push the Man U agenda as he has such a vested finicial interest in pushing his own lower league agenda as co owner of Salford.

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Review Of The Day 14th October 2020

15 Oct 2020 07:39:34
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th October 2020

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15 Oct 2020 06:53:41
Great series on YouTube especial interest to older Leeds fans who may not be aware of it The Leeds United Wilderness years 1975-1988, some good old footage and stories.

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15 Oct 2020 11:23:38
They were lean years. I remember bring at a home game on a Friday night and a crowd of about 8k. I think it was against Cambridge and a 3 - 1 win.

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15 Oct 2020 11:29:13
thanks for this mate, I know very little about leeds from this period other than stories so will watch this with great interest.

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15 Oct 2020 14:06:05
I’m ashamed to say I lived in Rochdale then. In my 20s.
Guys from my local used to go every week and ask me to go. But I never did. Beer and sex got in the way.
Now in Aus I wish I’d gone more.
I’m not a glory hunter at all. Once I hit 40s I was back into it. 15-20 yrs ago. But from afar in Aus.
ALAW.

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15 Oct 2020 18:18:00
Absolute unfair bs NONSENSE of the series to include 1975 to 1979 as 'Wilderness Years 1975 to 1988?' )

In this entertaining if slightly less successful period 1975 to 1979 Leeds were

1975 European Cup Finalists (should have won but for a bent ref)

1977 FA Cup semi finalists ( very close game against Man U . )

1978 League Cup semi finalists ( beaten by Forest)

1979 again League Cup semi finalists ( should have won completely outplayed a very fortunate Southampton)

So with more equitable justice Leeds could and would have deservedly won ( at least ) 2 major trophies during this period 1975 to
1979 . not exactly wilderness years!

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15 Oct 2020 19:01:34
Correct Baz. That Semi against Southampton was a sickner. We were 2 up at home in the first leg and coasting, but ended up 2 each, then lost the second leg 1 - 0. The lean years were really in Division 2 after relegation, until Billy nearly got us to the Cup Final and we lost that Play Off replay to Charlton, another choker!

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15 Oct 2020 19:26:15
Same season we beat them 4-0 at home in the League when Currie got that curler.

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15 Oct 2020 19:29:12
Indeed LUFCfeath the lean / wilderness years were most specifically 1982 - 1986

As for that sickening 1979 Southampton semi final we should have won the first leg by 4 clear goals and the second leg we were again all over them but could not put the ball in the net


I cried a lot that evening.

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15 Oct 2020 19:57:49
Don’t remind me of the Charlton playoffs.
The big centre half scored two in extra time I think.
Peter Sutcliffe killed us.
I watched it on the radio in west London and cried like a baby. Ok I was only 12 or so.
MOT.

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15 Oct 2020 21:22:56
my first tears was when my hero John ludic punched the ball into his own net to help knock us out of the cup to a Scottish team. that was in 92 and I only stopped crying last week.

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16 Oct 2020 04:47:14
If only we 'suffered' such a wilderness again eh Baz? The last 16 years - now, that's what I ca a wilderness.

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16 Oct 2020 07:16:28
Loved watching the series some great footage of fans all wearing scarfs in them days remember some of those games well very nostalgic looking back still more to come.

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16 Oct 2020 07:52:49
Indeed Alf . and I am still trying to erase those lovable rogues 🤪🤔 Bates and Warnock from my memory # the real. wilderness years.

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16 Oct 2020 11:32:02
Add GFH to that rogue's list.

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16 Oct 2020 12:11:28
LUFCfeath I had managed to erase GFH 😈 from my memory . need to do it again now.

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16 Oct 2020 12:58:43
Sorry for reminding you Baz!

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17 Oct 2020 10:38:26
bad so harsh on Warnock. he is a top class manager at championship level and did an amazing job at leeds. we had no money, all his players were sold from under him so he built a team around snograss only to have him sold the following week. many lesser managers would of got leeds relegated

dont understand why leeds fans hate Warnock and don't recognise his ability which for me is beyond question.

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