Leeds Banter Archive January 16 2019

 

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16 Jan 2019 22:21:40
Good to see the club have limited tickets for future home games to 4 each so 3 for ST holders plus theirs and max 4 each for membership holders! Might get a ticket now for bolton 😕😮.

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16 Jan 2019 23:06:14
I won't.

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17 Jan 2019 05:39:21
You must get over for the promotion Party kiwi lad its going to be epic fella MOT brother.

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17 Jan 2019 08:51:51
when you up DJ?

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16 Jan 2019 22:09:55
Easy riddle for you all. What famous English literary work released during our penultimate victory as champions of the top flight featuring a character with my first name and 😊 do you get when you cross the following LUFC affiliated people?

Ex-Leeds midfielder who could rarely get a game due to our amazing midfield in the early 90s

Ex-Leeds left back who Hooksie told to fork off not so long ago

Ex-Leeds infamous Frenchman who had another profession while at French club Auxerre, and finally

Our current Leeds United manager

First to get answer right gets to go on a date with the club's media girl Emma I think is her name.

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16 Jan 2019 22:47:42
After five words I knew it was you mate!

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16 Jan 2019 23:36:38
LOL Corkie. What's the answer?

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16 Jan 2019 23:58:43
Tinker, tailor, soldier, Spy!

Bring it on!

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17 Jan 2019 02:34:09
Spaniard wins! Tell us what Emma is like. Pictures or it didn't happen.

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17 Jan 2019 08:53:46
Since Georgie isn't even sure of the girl's name I have serious doubts as to whether the prize is genuine.

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17 Jan 2019 10:04:29
Yorath, Taylor, Cantona and Bielsa, George Smiley is the character! Good one George. Incidentally, great books and some good tv and film adaptations.

I had forgotten Cantona was a soldier, national service and Terry Yorath was a tough one. Made me look up that squad, wow!

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17 Jan 2019 10:22:37
I was out with her last week boys!
Nothing special😳.

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17 Jan 2019 10:27:17
Is is not Mark Tinkler?

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17 Jan 2019 11:27:40
I think you're right with Tinkler Corky, surely Terry Yorath would have been retired by the 90s?

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17 Jan 2019 11:38:30
Corky and Staffy correct with Mark Tink (l) er.

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17 Jan 2019 11:41:14
You are right boys! I’ll share the prize!

I misread that part of the conundrum! I was thinking about midfielders struggling to get in the mid seventies midfield because of the quality around. The year the book was published!

Should have just posted the answer!

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16 Jan 2019 21:59:34
I believe Bielsa has completely pulled the rug from under the EFL. This was a masterstroke reason being in isolation the 1 episode with FF could be portrayed as something out of the norm. The fact that he says it's a normal part of his set up shows he didn't mean to be underhand with his actions and can plead ignorance and not malice.

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16 Jan 2019 22:15:21
Spot on wex, EFL call off the dogs.

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16 Jan 2019 22:20:18
Agree wholeheartedly Wwx. Just shows it's part of the normal regime of being thorogh Nothing to see here. Move along.

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16 Jan 2019 22:24:42
I hope you’re right Wex, it was certainly pure Bielsa! I’m not sure it will stop a punishment but hopefully he has provided more context and background. Think there will still be a fine and perhaps a touch line ban with the request that it stops.

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16 Jan 2019 22:24:44
He has also shown what a tiny part of the preparation the observation actually is so the advantage gained from it would be minute. Therefore not cheating at all because it provides little value compared with everything else.

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17 Jan 2019 01:56:44
Fat Frank says that presentation was nothing special, all clubs do that sort of prep. If that's so Frankie baby, what's gone wrong with your prep? Typical bloody public schoolboy, go crying to Matron.

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17 Jan 2019 05:01:59
Of course, who started was the first to start having files on Leeds opponents in the 1960’s?

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17 Jan 2019 08:36:37
They call it Spying, Bielsa studied all of our opposition league games from the last season up to present date and it's spying! Other managers send coaches or attend an up and coming oppositions next match and it called research. Unless our "spy" entered the opposition's property without an invite then no law has been broken. No one can prove any Leeds staff member has entered any other clubs property this season unlawfully. Bielsa has told them we sent someone to watch all our opponents but no proof exist that we trespassed or other than Derby it even happened!

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16 Jan 2019 21:50:46
Did Southampton not watch the presentation?

😂😂.

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16 Jan 2019 22:21:47
Oh Derby. What a can of worms you have opened. No wins for you anytime soon.

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16 Jan 2019 22:36:53
Pulled Lampard's pants down for the second time within a week (third time overall)

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17 Jan 2019 01:57:51
Makes a change from Fat Frank pulling his own pants down ;)

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16 Jan 2019 20:52:43
The real question on every club owner's lips should now be "Why hasn't MY manager been watching other teams train. Where is MY manager's power point presentation".

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16 Jan 2019 21:18:03
Exactly what Karl Henry ex Wolves an QPR, now with Bradford has said, really spoke well about Bielsa, good for him.

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16 Jan 2019 21:52:50
IF LEEDS WERE ROCK BOTTOM, EFL WON'T GIVE A F$$K! THEY ALL CAN "FORK RIGHT OFF"

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16 Jan 2019 20:41:15
Did shearer agree that spying does go on and that people seem to accept it if it's done on the sly? Also jermain jenus not so vocal now calling for beisas head.
The difference between Jermaine and Marcelo is one is a Jenus and the other is a Genius!

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16 Jan 2019 20:55:44
Well you shoehorned that one in nicely Mezz, well done!

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16 Jan 2019 21:21:43
Yes Mezzer, Shearer did say it. As for Jenas he just talks boll**ks.

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16 Jan 2019 21:26:21
Nice one Mezza ha ha.

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17 Jan 2019 01:59:33
Is Jenas pronounced like anus? It should do, he talks out of his enough.

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17 Jan 2019 09:27:18
AL, it's either pronounced anus or penis, so take your pick! 😂😂.

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16 Jan 2019 20:31:05
You feeling sick Frank, you look a bit sick Frank.
We'd offer you a bucket but the king is sat on it.

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16 Jan 2019 20:18:52
Bub is BRILLIANT. He IS Leeds. By the condescending way he put the EFL in their place you would have thought he was born and raised in the city or at least read every football article written about the place. Then again, knowing him, he probably has. His level of analysis makes Revie's player dossiers look like match day programs. This is why we are going up and are going to stay up.

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16 Jan 2019 20:53:18
Kiwi I have to disagree, Radz having told him to cool it he comes out saying he’s done it all season, now EFL have come out saying that Leeds May have breached their charter to which all clubs agreed to last season, leaving Leeds to the possibility of a bigger sanction, I don’t know it Radz has is hands in his head or the EFL rubbing theirs together, Brilliant is not something I would agree with.

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{Ed001's Note - the EFL had already said that nonsense about it breaching their charter, long before he gave the conference. That was days ago they made that claim when they couldn't actually find a rule that covered it.}

16 Jan 2019 21:05:29
Ed100, Let’s see before handing them anything, That’s all I am saying. If they can find anything they will, drove past and the midnight candle were burning.

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{Ed001's Note - and they will do that regardless of what Leeds do, so give it to them both barrels and show them up, which is exactly what Bielsa has done. He has turned it into a coaching masterclass and made Lampard look a fool.}

16 Jan 2019 21:22:17
Whiteman as always I respect your opinion but the point here is that Bub is showing the passion and character which will lift the team and the club. He will have the dressing room well and truly with him and that will come through on the paddock. The thoroughness and depth of his analysis render the possible transgression of spying (in reality it was only watching) to be a minor bit part. If the EFL want to outlaw it they can do so but may find themselves hard put to dish out any meaningful punishment. It wasn't illegal. It's been done before by others. It's not contrary to any of their own set laws. Now he has shown it provided little that contributed to the result.

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16 Jan 2019 21:36:00
Also, do you really think that Radz wouldn't have known what was coming? get real, Bub's shown exactly why it doesn't matter if he sends anyone to watch a training session because he already knows everything he wants to know.

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16 Jan 2019 21:38:37
I can see where you are coming from Whiteman. I think that was very much Bielsas way. Didn’t seem to be any notice of the press conference on the official site and I don’t know if there as been anything since.

Although he did talk before about recognising the differences here, he didn’t apologise as far as I could see. Also he didn’t make it absolutely clear he wouldn’t do it again, although he sort of implied it the other day. He made quite a terse passing reference to the clubs statement on him as well. However he did seem to say he would accept the punishment. Correct me guys if any of those assumptions are wrong!

I hope now, that’s the end of it until the league / FA decision and we get back to football only.

I think he has though made it tough for the authorities to handle it, he’s given them more ammunition but they will run the risk of making him even more of a hero than he is already and could give the team even more motivation and desire to perform!

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16 Jan 2019 22:24:38
Al, Yes i do wonder that,

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16 Jan 2019 22:28:21
How many players will want to play for Leeds under Bielsa now? Surely they will be jumping at the chance.

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16 Jan 2019 22:50:29
Let’s face it, Bielsa just gave English football, from grass roots to the very top of the game, a proper schooling! He said that watching training wasn’t of any benefit, but if he didn’t ask for it to be done, he wouldn’t feel that he was doing his job properly, and would be worried about that. He wants perfection in his preparation, and to be the best coach possible. The only thing the authorities can do now, is introduce new rules, so that it’s clear for everyone.

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16 Jan 2019 23:33:00
Don't be daft, it was an official press conference, albeit, a bit of a short notice one. Everyone at the club would have known what it was about.

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16 Jan 2019 20:10:35
So . The end result of DF whinging is that now every Championship manager has the benefit of analysis from looking over his fence. And more. Methinks he is learning first hand the law of unintended consequences. Frank, you need to look up the "Streisand Effect" on Google.

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16 Jan 2019 20:41:06
Soz. Typo. Meant FF nor DF Have as little idea as to who DF may be as FF has with regard to handling this situation.

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16 Jan 2019 20:06:46
Just to get off Marcelo for a moment. Does LUFC have the worst Official web site in all the leagues? It is 3 hours since Marcelo's news conference and still no mention of it on the site!

Er, did I just mention Marcelo? Or should I say GOD.

MOT = Marcelo On Together!

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16 Jan 2019 21:23:34
It's not been much good for ages.

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16 Jan 2019 22:52:30
It’s proper carp tewit, but I think the club have agreed to let MB front this one up, and are standing back while he works his magic!

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16 Jan 2019 19:55:43
To all thos leeds haters, whingers, whiners, drama queen poss tots.
"His name is marcello bielsa
He's better than anyone elsa
You may need an alka seltzer
because leeds are going up!
Cheers lads. keep em coming.

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16 Jan 2019 19:51:47
LEGEND YOU PROCLAIM. HE'S NO LEGEND. HE'S A HERO! A MARVELLOUS HERO. NEXT GAME HE SHOULD WEAR A CAPE AND MASK! I ❤💛💙 MARCELO BIELSA! GREAT PERSON!

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16 Jan 2019 19:57:54
He's basically the sporting equivalent of Dr Emmett Brown.

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16 Jan 2019 19:59:43
George,

A, are you ok?
B, has your account being taken over?
C, have you spilt superglue on your keyboard?

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16 Jan 2019 20:00:48
A great, great man. here, here.
Don't think they will ask about spyman in next presser George.

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16 Jan 2019 20:01:41
He's the Man! Now let's get on with winning this League in style. Up the Whites!

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16 jan 2019 21:17:54
spaniard still me i'm afraid. my respect for bielsa just skyrocketed almost to the point where he's moved me to tears. his honesty, integrity, knowledge and skill level are out of this world. also his courage. he's made for leeds united and leeds united as a club and fans are made for him. this whole incident and revelations could truly backfire on everyone except us and we have fat frank to thank. thank you frank. i now foresee every decent youngling in britain wanting to join lufc and learn from the master. so in a way with all the media furore, the whole affair deserves a headline of frankie goes to hollywood!

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16 Jan 2019 22:57:41
Spot on George with that last post! I was watching the live transcript online, and was literally wetting myself with amazement at the level of detail this guy goes to for every team, every match, every player. The FA should be thanking him for being here. Ryan giggs, when asked about Bale’s performances this season, said “I dunno, I haven’t got eleven sports! ” MB knows everything about everyone in this league!

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16 Jan 2019 19:44:43
My heart stopped beating this morning. The first article I opened on NN was one giving full coverage of the press conference. As all of you, who have seen these before, know you need to start reading from the bottom, where the conference starts, and follow the statements from there to the top as they are revealed. The statement at the top is always, effectively, the last in the interview
Well, this morning my anxiety got the better of me. In my haste to glean the news I couldn't help myself. I jumped straight into the article and started at the top - which, of course, was the end. What was the heading for the last statement - set out in bold print . BIELSA LEAVES meaning he exits the conference which, in my anxious state of mind, was not the first understanding that rose in my head
My heart stopped. I am only now just recovering.

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16 Jan 2019 19:25:34
Arsenal looking at a bid for young Clark, Leeds should offer long term contract or his head my be turned.

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16 Jan 2019 19:50:00
Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City and Spurs, but he’s not for sale and he doesn’t want to leave. He has a contract signed just over a year ago that lasts until June 21! He hasn’t yet played a full league 90mins. Don’t panic Whiteman, relax and enjoy the season. He’ll be there until the summer if we don’t go up, any contract signed now won’t make a jot of difference. Best way of keeping Clarke is getting promoted.

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16 Jan 2019 20:12:47
Well said spanish, no need to panic just yet, if we don't go up we will get a shed load of cash for him!

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16 Jan 2019 20:46:03
Once promoted everyone can sit down with all the cards on the table. I think the way Leeds have handled him and the chance to continue to work with Bielsa will stand us in good stead.

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16 Jan 2019 23:00:29
He strikes me as a lad with the club at his heart, and feels valued here. The club will be saying to him “let’s see how the season ends, and then don’t worry, we will sort everything out. ” Nowt to worry about.

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16 Jan 2019 19:16:56
If Collymore gets his way it will be West Yorkshire League for us! 🤣🤣.

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16 Jan 2019 19:51:38
Being positive, with the West Yorkshire League it’ll be a lot easier to watch the training sessions!

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16 Jan 2019 20:03:56
For our local clubs training his spy will only have to turn up at the Boozer to see the session in full flow!

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16 Jan 2019 19:16:06
Away from Spygate for a moment I thought I'd do a bit of research as I'm sat here waiting for me tea so bear with me.

One of the reasons levelled at Tottingham Hotspurts for failing to get anywhere near to winning the Premiership is their poor record against other sides in the top six.

With that in mind I thought I would see how we have done against the sides currently in the top six compared with say Norwich.

Leeds have taken 13pts from a possible 18pts (72.2%)
Norwich have taken 5pts from a possible 21pts (23.8%)

Should I let Bubba know?

Should I get a life?

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16 Jan 2019 19:41:57
He knows . he knows everything.

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16 Jan 2019 19:53:57
Perhaps you could get in the kitchen and make your own tea! Or are you down the chippy in the Q!

Good point, that’s one of the big differences for us this year, much more competitive, win, lose or draw against the top teams!

Enjoy your tea!

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16 Jan 2019 23:02:37
That’s just it sheds, if we repeat our returns from the first half of the season, we are going up.

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16 Jan 2019 19:06:02
Everyone should get a trench coat. Cap. Dark glasses, dodgy fake moustache and if possible binoculars all for next home match against Norwich
Live on sky. Rub it up the elf and all others
That would be a scene too see.
👍😂⚽️🕶🔍〰️🧥.

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16 Jan 2019 19:18:34
We shouldn't let Keith Andrews in to the ground.

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16 Jan 2019 19:54:30
I think I’d rather wear something different for a change!

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16 Jan 2019 23:03:20
Pop socks and sling backs again Spanish? 😳🤔🤪😂.

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16 Jan 2019 18:59:32
Have to say up until today I've not really liked talksports Adrian Durham. He can be quite divisive and not usually a fan of anything Leeds utd. He has now come out and said Bielsa has proved his case and any punishment the EFL bring will be just picking leeds. This guy has a platform behind him of a national sports radio station and can see it swaying opinion.

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16 Jan 2019 19:11:40
Yes it makes a change for presenter's on that Station.

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16 Jan 2019 19:27:17
Yes, I was surprised with Durham's opinion.

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16 Jan 2019 18:53:29
I'm a Sussex boy and a lot of my friends are Brighton fans. Mate sends me a link saying Bielsa to resign as Leeds boss in press conference. He says " i'd so laugh if he leaves".

Bielsa gives a detailed analysis of derby county. My friend texts me saying "but of a d**k isn't he? He just wants to show off. "

In summary, we can't win 😂.

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16 Jan 2019 19:13:31
He’s a bit of a genius actually.

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16 Jan 2019 19:55:29
I bet he’s great fun at parties!

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16 Jan 2019 20:17:10
I bet his online shopping takes ages tho. Analysing each product, their performance etc.

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16 Jan 2019 21:15:28
Spooky Delboy I’m a sussex boy and my brother a spurs fan (don’t ask! ) said the exact same thing! And another Mate Brighton season ticket holder just said “why is he making it worse”? As you say he cannot win, but then genius is most often misunderstood and creates fear through ignorance.

Mezzer called this correctly couple of days ago this is not a legal test (there is no breach) but a trial by popular media that requires heat to sell column inches and advertising space.

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16 Jan 2019 18:49:29
Is it too early to call for a statue. The man is unbelievable. Every other other manager just wishes they were him.

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16 Jan 2019 18:27:36
Lampard should be watching Bielsa's Press Conference as he might learn something.

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16 Jan 2019 18:34:09
Bielsa knows more about lampards team than he does, if I was the Derby owner i would be having stern words with Franky boy.

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16 Jan 2019 18:48:47
feath. You can't educate pork!

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16 Jan 2019 18:25:54
Bielsa's just opened his head coach training college, Frank lampard just signed up!

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16 Jan 2019 18:18:53
Bsrcellona manager summed it up. He said if you don't want people to see then don't do it in public view.

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16 Jan 2019 18:15:35
If you could see me now I would be screaming and crying.
For goodness sake LET THIS SPYGATE DROP. It's chip paper, old news. Do not open a can of worms. All those holier than thou in their pulpits, For God's sake let it go. Let's look into some of the PC brigade and see just how perfect they are or have been.
Let's not even investigate how perfect football or its governing body is. How long has it taken the FA to stamp the ungentlemanly, unprofessional act of diving, which everyone unilaterally despises yet nothing is done to the perpetrators. I don't know if some of these, has been, pundits merely want a few column inches but please, leave the man alone. He did it, he confessed to it. Let nature take its course. Do not harass the Championships' Special one. Do not hound him out of town. Do not risk losing him to a foreign league. Let's get on with football please and Leeds United; I hope behind the scenes you are, to a man, supporting him and maybe it would be a good idea to publicly take the weight off his shoulders and issue a clear unequivocal statement of support.

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16 Jan 2019 18:40:18
Leodis, Bielsa just played a blinder! The fact that he has explained he has anxiety and uses all the options open to him to do his job to ease this, any action brought by the EFL I would argue is discrimination due to a disability or illness.

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16 Jan 2019 18:45:28
I spotted that as well Mezzman, how big are them 2 fingers he's just stuck up to the FL?

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16 Jan 2019 19:57:49
I’d hope that isn’t the case lads. He has too much class for that.

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16 Jan 2019 20:18:21
Covers every angle cork!

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16 Jan 2019 18:09:25
Someone down at leeds has a sense of humour. New weekly video on the leeds app called the scouting report. Looks into our next opponents. Wait for it the efl will be saying that's mortally wrong as well next.

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16 Jan 2019 18:07:29
Wallymore says other teams should seek legal advice maybe he should get some legal advice as no law or rules broken would be the answer.

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16 Jan 2019 18:12:25
Good point Wex, think Stan the ‘Man’ ex girlfriends have some contact details for lawyers? Not sure if assault and battery is applicable in this instance though 🤷‍♂️.

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16 Jan 2019 18:15:32
Don't wind him up sex he will be beating his ulrika ka ka ka ka doll up later.

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16 Jan 2019 19:15:44
Stan “ no win, no fee” collywobble should be asked why he impersonated a footballer after leaving the florists.

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16 Jan 2019 17:58:38
Bielsa has said basicly this is my reasons now everyone please shut up as i won't answer anymore of your silly questions as I've now put the matter to bed. Let's crack on and win the league. P. s if any of you reporters know any good hiding places near the Stoke training ground that you can share with us it would be appreciated 👊.

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16 Jan 2019 17:56:10
Love him! Please god. Just don't RESIGN 🙏🙏🙏.

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16 Jan 2019 17:51:05
Adrian Durham has summed it up, He just said Frank Lampard take note, He (MB) is teaching you how to be a manager.

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16 Jan 2019 18:00:58
A rumour going round that Fat Frank is there disguised as a reporter from the Derby Echo, learning about his teams stengths and weaknesses! Shame he didn’t know them before Friday!

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16 Jan 2019 18:21:50
Riche1971 agree, dislike Adrian Durham but agree with his sentiment that Bielsa has just proved his case that all he is guilty of is using everything legally in his power to do his job, his analysis leaves nothing to chance, although he can't effect the score on the pitch he just trys to cover all bases Just like a risk assessment. The man is a tactical genius.

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16 Jan 2019 17:45:26
The general tone of the conference appears to be that for him this is just part of the enormous amount of research and analysis that he does on each opponent for all their previous games. The training ground activity is just part of that and for him just another way of collecting information but in itself not giving him anything new that he hasn't got from other sources.

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16 Jan 2019 17:51:24
He is showing that he his a professional and uses ever angle to do his job. As he said there is no law or rule about "spying" on your opponent. It's down to interpretation of its against fair play.

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16 Jan 2019 17:53:07
Jeese Spanish I nearly filled my pants thinking he was going to walk.

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16 Jan 2019 17:59:17
I know how you felt Martyn! Got worried when I heard all his staff were there! Wow, this man is unbelievable!

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16 Jan 2019 18:49:08
He needs more staff, there was only 20 coaches in attendance ;)

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16 Jan 2019 17:32:40
Wow! Talk about honesty! Detail of what he has done, how often and why he does it. Have to say the English translation I am reading doesn't seem very clear on some points. Still seem to be saying that he's not doing it for a tactical advantage but to give him information on expected team, formation and set piece tactics!

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16 Jan 2019 17:52:19
You must be watching the same link I am Spanish! He could refill the internet with all the data he has accumulated! Utterly mind blowing!

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16 Jan 2019 17:52:44
Works his nuts off! They should give him a medal not a punishment.

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16 Jan 2019 17:22:14
Well, so far, I gather he's admitted to having every team we've played watched, but only from public places. 😳.

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16 Jan 2019 17:27:25
Legend.

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16 Jan 2019 17:28:17
He is saying its not illegal so he has used everything in his power to get an advantage. Fair play to him, it's down to the powers to veto close the loop hole. Well done to him for calling the press conference today to get it out the way before tomorrow's managers press conference so he can concentrate on the stoke match. Not done anything illegal, all down to interpretation and how EFL can find a rule to fit this .

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16 Jan 2019 17:33:52
Not sure if anything said at the conference will help to clarify any of it or just muddy the waters. clearly it is on MC's mind so that is not a good thing and a distraction we can really do without at this point in the season.

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16 Jan 2019 17:38:27
And now he going through spreadsheets of analysis carried out by watching ALL of Derby’s 51 games last season, analysis for each match takes 4 hours! He and his team did that for every opponent in the division! Incredible!

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{Ed001's Note - I absolutely love Bielsa.}

16 Jan 2019 17:48:03
I feel ashamed to have to tell you all this.

Let’s talk about the analysis that Derby played this season.

They played 31 games. 49% they used a 4-3-3 system with No 8 on the right.

In 22% a 4-3-3- but with the No 8 on the left.

Same for the 4-2-1-3, with the no 8 on the right and left.

They also used structures, 3%, 2%, but they’re not significant.

Before the game we knew perfectly that they would use these kind of systems.

THE MAN IS SO DAMN THOROUGH! Other managers are going to be embarrassed by this.

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16 Jan 2019 17:49:35
Looks like he is NOT resigning. Just telling everybody, and giving away, just how he does everything. Bet ALL the managers in the Championship are taking notes.

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16 Jan 2019 17:53:00
Me too Ed! He is incredible!

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{Ed001's Note - mad genius. He is the man who should be running the coaching courses, teaching up and coming coaches how to coach.}

16 Jan 2019 17:21:09
Stand firm lads Bielsa isn't resigning. he s just giving the EFL the full facts to make their witch hunt easier and to put it to bed. Good man, well managed!

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16 Jan 2019 17:20:45
The man is a legend.

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16 Jan 2019 17:38:19
Agree wex, better power point than TC.

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16 Jan 2019 16:27:06
Not a bad week for an 18 year old. Man of the match performance in a key game in front of an adoring Elland Road Crowd. Then a bit of interest in you from some also ran Premiership clubs like Man City, Spurs and Arsenal!

JC you are the messiah, and we know you're not going to be a very naughty boy! Stay with us and help take us back to the promised land and grow into a premiership role with the club you love. You'll be a legend!

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16 Jan 2019 16:42:26
JC IS THE MESSIAH🕆.

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16 Jan 2019 17:18:14
hear pep has been told to pee off and hands off at any price! JC is our messiah MOT.

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16 Jan 2019 17:40:02
I read that he's got the best contract that Leeds have ever given to an 18yo.

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16 Jan 2019 16:27:02
Will Bielsa be hounded out of British football.

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16 Jan 2019 16:51:45
I am worried he may say sod you all and go back home, i sincerely hope not but it don't sound good.

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16 Jan 2019 17:04:20
This time next week it'll be forgotten about, be some other click bait for the press by then!

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16 Jan 2019 17:14:50
Press conference on now, some kind of computer presentation with all of Bielsas team of staff in the room.

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16 Jan 2019 17:18:27
Not resigning! To clarify spygate and keep seperate from tomorrow.

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16 Jan 2019 17:22:50
Admits that “we have watched training sessions of all out opponents this year! ”.

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16 Jan 2019 19:18:24
Think it’s fair to say we all stand united with our leader.

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16 Jan 2019 16:24:19
Just heard Marcelo is giving a news conference at 17.00. Hope he has no dramatic announcement, except a signing.

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16 Jan 2019 16:23:34
Press conference called by Bielsa.

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16 Jan 2019 16:23:05
Daily Express are describing the 5pm press conference as an "emergency" one. I am uneased by this. I will be mighty p1ssed off if the pundits, EFL and FA have bullied him into resigning. Much happier if he bares his arse and tells em all to suck his South American chorizo sausage. Worried.

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16 Jan 2019 16:14:54
Thought from the outset, Fatty F was trying to play mind games and upset the Leeds Camp with his over reaction to a trivial scouting matter
Ably assisted by his friends and pundits in the media alongside the anti Leeds brigade and attention seekers. ( please see article below )
There's something rotten going on in football at the moment.

Ahead of the Championship game between Leeds and Derby on Friday night, Marcelo Bielsa admitted that he had sent an employee to observe Derby training on Thursday.

This person was spotted acting suspiciously and was quizzed by police, who decided no offence had been committed.

That night, a report appeared in the Daily Mirror that claimed the Leeds employee had been caught with "pliers and binoculars".

This tabloid story fuelled some, frankly, crazy rants from pundits who claimed that Leeds should be punished for actions that had amounted to cheating.

Derby manager Frank Lampard, who admitted his side were well beaten, repeated the claim about pliers after the game, saying "He was on hands and knees with pliers in hand, so the intention was there. "

But where has this come from?

Not from the police, who were the only people who had contact with the Leeds employee.

In response to questions from a Leeds fan on Wednesday, the Derby police "categorically" said they had disclosed no information about the person they had stopped - "to Derby County, Leeds United or anyone other than those within the police force".

They also repeated that no offence had been committed. This was made very clear in the tweets below.

This is serious stuff. The lies that are being spread about Marcelo Bielsa and Leeds need to stop.

Bielsa has admitted to sending someone to stand on public ground and watch a training session.

Saying that he intended to break through the fence with pliers is taking the allegation to a whole new level.

Where has Frank Lampard got this information from? Where did the Mirror get its story from?

Because it's not from the police, who have stated that on record.

And if Lampard is making allegations up or basing them on tabloid stories, then what he's doing is arguably worse than anything Bielsa has done.

The slurs have to stop. And if necessary Leeds have to stand up and threaten anyone who makes allegations that aren't true.

The hypocrisy over such a trivial matter is staggering.

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16 Jan 2019 16:33:32
A great post. Perhaps the press conference at 5pm will clarify the pliers angle. That part surprises me, particularly as the person concerned was clearly an easily identifiable Leeds united employee!

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16 Jan 2019 15:01:38
What's the chances that Kiko Casillas first steps in a Leeds United shirt could be at Tadcaster Albion! Next Monday 7pm, adults £3!

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16 Jan 2019 15:26:21
Is the ground easy enough to find Spanish?

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16 Jan 2019 15:54:01
Just off the A162 junction of the A64, just behind the Samuel Smiths Brewery.

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16 Jan 2019 16:01:59
Just a 2 min walk for me boys ALAW.

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16 Jan 2019 16:13:52
So it’s pre match drinks and pork crackling around Tads house! Or can you recomen a good pub Tad?

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16 Jan 2019 16:43:46
The angel is probably the best sams pub it has the shire horses in the stables at the back of the pub plus it’s the nearest boozer to the ground . If that helps Spanishleeds 🍺🐴.

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16 Jan 2019 18:24:20
I love a Sam Smiths pub, no frills and cheap ale!

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16 Jan 2019 18:53:05
Spare a thought for us exiles, can't get Sam's down here : (.

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16 Jan 2019 14:30:22
The Guardian's take on Spygate. A long article but well worth the read.

One hopes Marcelo Bielsa does not get punished too severely for blatantly spying on Derby County training sessions. The Leeds manager not only confessed immediately, contacting Frank Lampard and taking responsibility for the stunt, he was reminded by his own club of Leeds United's integrity and honesty and surely that should conclude this entertaining episode with the wry smile it deserves.
Perhaps Bielsa ought to have cottoned on a bit quicker to the possibility that what goes without comment in South America might be frowned on in England, but differences in custom and practice between footballing cultures are there to be enjoyed, not censured. Bielsa may well have acted against the spirit of the EFL clubs' charter, whatever that is, but even if you could track down such a document you would not find anything specific about lurking in bushes to get a glimpse of rival preparations.
When the transgression was first discovered it was reported that the interloper was wearing camouflage gear and carrying bolt-cutters. That sounded exciting, borderline illegal in fact, though it was later toned down to sportswear and a pair of pliers. And the unnamed individual turned up in a Leeds United vehicle. Even more hilariously, Derby were able to work out he had done it before. A rustling in the undergrowth that had been noticed but not acted upon earlier in the season turned out to have taken place on the eve of Leeds 4-1 win at Pride Park back in August.
Lampard is now working on the theory that Bielsa might have snooped on all his major rivals, and he may well be right. The Leeds manager should probably stop now he has been busted and accept that such skulduggery is considered bad form in England, though it is worth remembering that the police who turned up at the latest incident did not make an arrest. No crime had been committed. Derby's training ground is overlooked by private houses anyway, the Leeds spy was spotted by a nearby resident rather than a member of the football club's staff, and though Lampard is right to say he ought not to have to conduct a search of the perimeter fence before each training session, his point underlines the fact that not many training facilities are actually that private.
Manchester City, before they moved to the Etihad campus, a purpose-built city-centre location, were always complaining that they had no privacy at Carrington because a public footpath bordered their land. All any interested party - usually press but possibly opponents - would need was a stepladder or the ability to poke a lens through a hedge.
Liverpool's Melwood training ground has a reasonably substantial wall around its perimeter, though it is hardly one of forbidding height. Again, the training ground is surrounded by private houses, and not only would residents rightly object were Liverpool to build prison-style walls around the place, those inside the facility would suffer a loss of light. Liverpool have plans to move out to a greenfield site on the outskirts eventually, but for now the sight of onlookers using wheelie bins and stepladders to gain a peek at the players in training is a familiar one during school holidays.
Juan Carlos Osorio lived within sight of Liverpool's Melwood training ground for two years. Last year his Mexico team reached the last 16 of the World Cup.
Just over 20 years ago in fact, a Colombian studying a degree course in football science at Liverpool's John Moores university became so friendly with a family living alongside Melwood through borrowing a small table to see over the wall that he ended up moving in as a lodger. Juan Carlos Osorio stayed for two years, most of the time living in a bedroom that gave him an unrestricted view of Liverpool's training routines. He is currently the manager of Paraguay but gained his greatest prominence last summer as coach of the Mexico team that defeated Germany.
There is an obvious difference between snooping to further one's education and doing it to undermine an opponent in a competitive match, but the bottom line is that training grounds are not sacrosanct. If anyone wants to see what goes on badly enough, it can usually be managed, and when drone technology is developing at such a pace there is probably no point either in clubs investing in mountain hideaways with reinforced security.
Bielsa has been accused of cheating, though checking out the opposition in advance could just as easily be viewed as part of the game. Some will regard his actions more generously as obsessive attention to detail, a coach going about his work with a thoroughness that is rare. While this is clearly a grey area, at least until the EFL or the FA hands down some sort of protocol that everyone can sign up to, defenders of Bielsa might also point out that not every coach or manager would be able to interpret or act upon such snippets of information that might be gleaned from a drone or a spy in the bushes.
Equally, though some managers prefer to be as secretive as possible, others are relaxed about game plans becoming public knowledge. Most clubs do not alter their playing styles that much from game to game, after all. A coach might adapt his formation for a particular game or opponent, switching to three at the back for instance or deploying a different striker, but he is not going to keep doing that week after week. Most game plans are on very public view every Saturday afternoon, in front of thousands of paying spectators.
Perhaps rugby is a more straightforward game than football, but one of best quotes on the overrated nature of game plans came from John Monie, the Australian who was in charge of Wigan for four seasons in the early 90s and won the cup and league double in every one. "I'm sick of hearing about game plans - ours isn't a secret, " he said. "If any opponents are listening, I can tell you what we plan to do. We are going to run all over you for the first half hour then have a look and see what's left.

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16 Jan 2019 14:16:24
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16 Jan 2019 14:37:14
Would that be to FORK OFF then young George? :)

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16 Jan 2019 14:58:36
Well that clears that one up!

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16 Jan 2019 15:05:39
#ASAW.

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16 Jan 2019 14:08:47
When warnock’s view on “scout gate “ almost makes sense. you know it’s a world gone mad.

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16 Jan 2019 14:05:11
Regarding Spygate, if the EFL even think about docking us points I suggest we take a leaf out of Capt Blackadder's book and employ Bob Massingbird to fight our case.

Bob Massingbird was the most brilliant legal mind in all of England. He once got a killer freed (and knighted in the New Year's Honours list) , even though the man had been seen committing the murder by 13 witnesses, held the murder weapon in his hand and told arresting officers: "I'm glad I killed the b*stard" indicating that he was clearly guilty. The family of the victim was even forced to pay to have the blood washed out of the killer's jacket.

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16 Jan 2019 14:19:04
2 sheds Actually I think we should and may need to prefer cousin Freddie! He'll knock out all of the firing squad with his cricket bat! 🏏😂.

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16 Jan 2019 15:45:02
At the end of the day, he was only caught smoking an endless chain of cigarettes through an illuminous balaclava on top of a step ladder in no man's land, whilst drawing pictures of the enemy, the latter causing the problem.

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16 Jan 2019 11:59:33
Long time reader, first time poster. Great site particularly love Spanish's reports from U23 games. How about, for a new song, to the tune of "Its my party and I'll cry if I want to". I'm Bielsa and I'll spy if I want to, spy if I want to, spy if I want to, you would spy too if you'd worked in Peru.

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16 Jan 2019 12:25:25
Welcome aboard Animal. Your ditty does it for me. Personally, I suspect spying on us would be quite pleasurable for other clubs' spies, due to our current style. I pity the poor sausage who had to spy on Derby. I would be taking us to a tribunal for unreasonable behaviour if I were he.

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16 Jan 2019 12:25:30
Very good animal and welcome. Your not Spanishes flat mate are you.

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16 Jan 2019 13:01:29
Animal, we’ve been rumbled!

I’d like to make clear that I am taking full responsibility for asking for these positive comments about my postings! Nobody else in the house share was aware of my actions!

As you know I have previously lived in Spain and South America and it is very common there for friends to be asked to make positive comments about website Postings. I feel that my actions should be judged in that context.

I immediately attempted to contact Martyn to explain the situation but he refused to accept my reverse charge call!

Editor 007 has given me a severe talking to and reminded me of the principles of honesty and integrity on which this website is based!

Animal, welcome to the funhouse or should I say madhouse, great lyrics.

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{Ed001's Note - so, now I just have to decide on the punishment. Perhaps a relegation to the Sunderland site would be in order?}

16 Jan 2019 13:11:18
Well done animal.
Think the spy is under going counciling for derby torture.

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16 Jan 2019 13:16:01
It's down rite unsporting behavour ed. I think he should be made to use a Huddersfield season ticket for a year as punishment.

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{Ed001's Note - that's going a bit far! Something a bit less harsh, such as genital mutilation maybe, but Huddersfield? That is just not on.}

16 Jan 2019 13:16:28
Welcome Animal, always a place for another Animal in dirty Leeds.

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16 Jan 2019 13:25:47
Classic Spanish! that's a bit too harsh I think Ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - well I would say Derby site but he would be on his own then and there would be no one to stop him getting into mischief!}

16 Jan 2019 13:49:27
Great opening post animal! Welcome onboard!

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16 Jan 2019 14:20:31
Animal Instincts tell me you're going to make a useful contribution to this site. Welcome.

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16 Jan 2019 11:06:40
Totally fed up with Brexit. Now going that way with Spygate. Can someone post something really outrageous that we can all get arguing about? Please.

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16 Jan 2019 10:51:39
Crystal Palace were fined by the PL when Cardiffs line up was leaked before a match so this should set the precedent and give guidance to the EFL. anything more and it should be challenged. As i said earlier if they are so against it then why is there not a specific rule with fixed penalties regarding it.

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16 Jan 2019 12:20:06
Oops, I just posted something similar on the rumours page.

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16 Jan 2019 13:50:35
Just glad i posted before you or i would be in trouble for spying and Jenas would be wanting me to wear a Man U shirt.

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16 Jan 2019 09:12:00
In contrast to Stuart Pearce's silly comments, might I suggest a more sensible punishment.3 matches without bucket, or is this a tad too harsh.

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16 Jan 2019 10:10:10
All Leeds staff to have their pliers removed!

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16 Jan 2019 10:33:47
Think Pearce should remember he let the entire country down with on single mis kick. Those in glass houses! I haven’t got twitter but might be worth some reminding him!

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16 Jan 2019 08:07:36
I might tip frank over the edge and fly a drone over his next training session 😂.

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16 Jan 2019 10:11:11
How about chipping in for one of those planes towing a banner.

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16 Jan 2019 10:34:36
Yeah. Plane banner saying. Fat frank give us a wave👍.

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16 Jan 2019 10:53:49
How about having his new name on it Frank ****hard.

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16 Jan 2019 05:02:03
For sure we will get a punishment above and beyond what any other team would get but we really are 'dirty Leeds' and we really do have the biggest siege mentality going so it's simple. Give us the punishment, let's get it over and done with and watch our passion and spirit rise above it. Put us in league two for all I care. I am dirty Leeds and proud of it and always will be and my support like most others on here will never ever change. MOT brothers and sisters.
Still say we will get promoted regardless.

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16 Jan 2019 09:10:38
Dont think anymore than a fine, Radz lawyers would have a field day with a points deduction. Maybe a touchline ban for bielsa too.

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16 Jan 2019 10:35:19
I can see 5 points tbh. Just hoping radz lawyers are ready.

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16 Jan 2019 13:27:42
what is that based on Aus?

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16 Jan 2019 03:41:41
Stuart Pearce has called for the match result too be reversed and derby get a 2-0 win. Or reply the match again. What a load off crap. Lol. Get over it. Slap his wrist. And move on. ⚽️⚽️⚽️.

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16 Jan 2019 04:08:03
Did Pearce see the game? As I said before. They could have had 15 players on the pitch and still would have lost. It took them 36 min to go into our box with the ball I think.

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16 Jan 2019 07:53:35
He should stick to being an electrician

There is absolutely nothing in the rules to impose a reduction or loss of points

As the “ staff person” from Leeds didn’t actually gain entry the best they can do is impose a fine and warn as to future conduct

All this wanger waving by ex pros is embarrassing.

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16 Jan 2019 08:25:17
These pundits and ex players who are trying to put the boot into LUFC should not be made welcome at Elland Road in the future. I hope all this gives our team even extra spirit and determination to succeed this season. MOT.

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16 Jan 2019 09:11:52
Gets him noticed because we ain't famous anymore haha!

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16 Jan 2019 09:37:14
I'd play it again and batter them 4_0 this time just to shut fat Frank up.

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16 Jan 2019 10:12:09
Can we play them every week!

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