Leeds Banter Archive April 17 2016

 

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17 Apr 2016 22:27:47
Daily male is only paper with the Cannavaro story (yet again) and any other reports just copy their details.

Why doesn't Cellino just sue the backside out of them?

Would love to see proof that he was in Leeds at weekend as the male state?

Put up or shut up?

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18 Apr 2016 06:00:06
It's all over Twitter .

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18 Apr 2016 06:30:19
Cellino says no so who knows.

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18 Apr 2016 12:57:43
Must be true if the sources are twitter and daily fail.

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18 Apr 2016 13:08:57
No response required really. Has anyone ever known the Daily Fail to print anything that's not completely true? Just a shame they have never thought of printing it on a roll, with perforated sheets. Would save so much effort tearing it into small pieces.

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18 Apr 2016 14:24:48
really speedy the way you go on people will start to think you are anti press and don't believe everything you read. you also shouldn't sit on fence regarding papers. say what you really feel.

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18 Apr 2016 15:57:59
lol @ BW. It's a good job I don't believe everything I read when I'm reading some of your posts!

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19 Apr 2016 12:09:29
oi oi speedy keep this up and I will have to stop stalking you covered in nothing but creme egg. there is no nonsense in my posts. sad thing is they are probably more balanced and informed than things in the paper. in fact I think I might apply for job at daily fail

Leeds go for new itialian boss Bentio mussalini.
new boss given 5 million war chest as all leeds fans turn to faishim think they would probably print that.

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17 Apr 2016 21:46:03
That will do Lewis Cook. That will do :)

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17 Apr 2016 21:49:41
Previously won by Bale, Delph and Allie - illustrious company. We just need you to stay Mr. Cook :)

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17 Apr 2016 22:12:00
If nothing else we should get a bit more for him now anyway!

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17 Apr 2016 23:18:31
agree that has probably added 2mill to his price tag but knowing mc it may well of added 4 mill. I we keep him it will be real signal of intent, if he goes should be very good fee win/ win.

also I really rate him but has he been that good this season? taylor is the one who has impressed me the most week in week out cook can be great, he can also go missing.

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18 Apr 2016 07:40:06
I agree bw.

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18 Apr 2016 07:49:39
Taylor has consistently been our best player. Cook was better last season than this.
I think he won the award on reputation. If it's true that we want £12M for him then I think I would take that if offered.
Having said that if Cellino doesn't give Cook, Mowatt and Taylor a new contract in the summer then we'll be in the same situation as we were with Byram as I think they all only have one year left on their contracts.

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18 Apr 2016 17:49:43
If we can get 12 million for Cook wee boule sell him only if all of the money received is put back into the team by allowing whoever is manager to spend the 12 million on new players, if that isn't an option we need to ensure he gets a new contract and we should keep him as you say it shows intent.

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19 Apr 2016 12:02:35
agree shag either sign up or sell for good price and MC would not get away with selling him and not reinvesting 100% into sqaud (and rightly so)

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17 Apr 2016 21:34:59
Can see where people are going with the prospective new coach. Evans has been told to keep quite by Cellino and hasn't. So expect him to be gone. Agree with Notts, there are a lot of coaches who wouldn't take the job, as they still have a decent profile. However, I believe BW has a point. There are a lot of coaches who have a big ego and would chance their arm to become the one who survived the sack from Cellino.

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17 Apr 2016 23:50:19
am now pissed but still believe in keeping evans and backing him with a kitty. discuss.

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18 Apr 2016 07:49:30
I would possibly keep him but there's no chance. MC has clearly decided he's going. What is most important is that whoever is in charge gets to choose their own players. Then we can finally move on from this constant scenario of having players around that the coaches haven't chosen, don't rate and refuse to play. Bully Sharp, Adryan, Caspar Slothet etc are amongst lots of players we have signed who may not be good enough but were never given a proper chance because the coach didn't rate them or they didn't fit into the system being played.

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18 Apr 2016 07:54:54
You're right degsey.
I can just see him on next year's club photo stroking a white cat, sat on his lap like Blofeld.
Oh, you didn't mean that sort of kitty! 😂.

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17 Apr 2016 20:55:41
Cannavaro? Ominous for Evans .

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17 Apr 2016 21:26:38
impossible to have a real view on this has cannavro has done nothing as manager? would we be his first team if not what is his manager record?

he might go on to be a klop or he might be a flop (see what I did their)

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17 Apr 2016 21:28:24
Hope not.

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17 Apr 2016 22:18:53
Carnivore? Omnivorous for Fatty?

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17 Apr 2016 23:55:55
very clever George!

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18 Apr 2016 15:05:35
Thanks degsy.

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17 Apr 2016 19:02:08
Bw I would love Pearson or Larry but I dnt see them wanting to come here while Cellino in charge? Nor anyone worth their reputation to be honest I dnt no much about this Italian guy but he's already been naughty apparently with tax avasion so nice fit with us and our owner! Lol.

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17 Apr 2016 19:50:31
had this time again, can not agree, any manager out of work would come leeds unless another job better was possible. not sure about larry as he is in work.

but all this talk of who would come to leed why would they not come leeds? becuase MC sacks people, everyone sacks every one now days apart from wenger. becuase of off field details that doesn't concern managers.

only reason a manager won't come leeds is I they have a better job already of lined up.

if no one goes for pearson this summer and we do, he will come to leeds

true about the fealla if he is good with his tax fitting in. to be honest thought that doent bother me, is he any good as a manager?

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17 Apr 2016 19:54:15
No chance Pearson coming as his stock is high. Yes, he currently is not in a job but he got Leicester promoted and kept them in the PL. Pearson will be targeting a lower prem club or a challenging Championship side i. e. Derby. Pearson will want to manage the club from top to bottom which Cellino will not allow. The Leeds job represents the last chance saloon for those who are desparate enough to coach in a volatile regime, which means our calibre of coach will be the likes of Freedman, Phil Brown, Holloway.

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17 Apr 2016 20:16:58
There must be some young up and coming coach, possibly who's only just stopped playing in either League 1 or 2 or even the National League (or whatever it's called this week) . I'd rather take a punt on someone like this who's looking to make a name for himself, who would also jump at the chance to coach Leeds and work for next to nothing! than take some has-been that had a little success once years ago and is still trading on it now!

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17 Apr 2016 21:01:26
thats my point all regimes are volitie apart from arsenal, look at pearson, got them promoted did the great escape and still sacked. I agree pearson might be in demand but no one has gone for him in over a year, if no one makes a move this summer he will be itching for a job. any job chmapionship or above. I agree with danum up and coming managers are always a good find if possible, really I want the next alex neil or eddie howe to take the job.

again please get this mc sacks people/ volitie nonsesnse. if managers would not go to a club where mangers get sacked no one would take any job. please name me five none voitlie managerment jobs in uk.

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17 Apr 2016 21:08:50
A bit of stability is what we need I like Evans and think he has a bit of pedigree he has done well with teams at lower levels. Some on here saying we need an up and coming manager. I say we already have one give him time and money and let him do his job. He could be our saviour.

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17 Apr 2016 22:32:53
Arsenal, Bournemouth, Burnley, Ipswich, Exeter City (Tisdale has been there nearly 10 years) .

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17 Apr 2016 23:29:49
so that is five, arsenal have under achived for years, bournmouth done very well, burnley up and down (although would take them for leeds) ispsiwch done nothing in years and who are exeter?

now unstable clubs, man city, chealsea, man u (to a degree) watford (how many managers in promotion season and change again in prem) , lesciter (how could they sack pearson after what he did surely a bad move) notts forest and just about every other club in england.

football mangers jobs are about as safe as a fighter poilt in ww2 and their job expectancy is just about as short. managers don't have to worry about rep as getting sacked is part and parcel now day (look at steve mcclown) and look at rafa who would of put him at newcastle? very few managers can expect job secuirty and most clubs are volitle so don't think mc sacking people is odd, just the press love to jump on it because its leeds

there is something good in stablity and wexleedds has a good point and I won't be gutted if se stays and their is a good argument for it, but again this who would come to leeds stuff getting old and boring and I don't think there is any vaild point to that arguement.

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18 Apr 2016 08:16:26
You said name 5 clubs that had stable management, you did not set a criteria that they had to win trophies. Another of your unanswerable questions BW? Hull City, Bradford City and MK Dons if you want 3 more.

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18 Apr 2016 09:13:23
not unanswerable Notts as you gave an answer, my point just lies in your answer, if stablity was the only way forward and if managers wouldn't go to volatlie clubs the answers to my question would be all top prem and championship clubs.

the fact the answer scraps the barrel of football league shows that teams can be successful without stablity, it shows that football as a whole is volitle so this who would come to leeds arguement is null and void as most football above and below is clearly the same.

so thank you for the answers I think they have helped me make my point and I couldn't be bothered to scrap around wiki trying to find teams that are not the norm espcially as most of them are not doing as well as super leeds.

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18 Apr 2016 10:34:56
I actually agree that the tenure of managers generally is quite limited but to prove your point you state all managers jobs are unstable, which is not true. When your question is answered that challenges your view you disregard it or twist the answer to suit your agenda. If you don't like the answer don't ask the question.

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18 Apr 2016 11:15:49
oh notts I do get upset when people mis quote or mis understand me,

where did I say all managers jobs are unsafe? I don't I just think when people say who would come to leeds it is a load of bull. leeds is like most other clubs. football in general is volitle most chairmen/ clubs are like our in that change of manager is quite common.

i asked the question to prove my point, which you kindly did for me, so I asked the question but you don't seem to understand I did like your answer, I liked your answer very much as it proved my point as well as I could of hoped. you answer didn't challenge my view it proved it, clubs at all levels can be unstable in fact the higher up they are often the more unsatble as they demand success, this doesn't detere managers from going there as it is part of the job now days (sadly but it is) . Leeds are operating at our level which dictates who would and wouldn't come, but the way the club is run and the fact we have had a few managers doesn't affect our pull just as it doesn't at other clubs.

so thank you for answring my questions which I am glad I asked, just a shame somewhere somehow you seem to of misunderstood something and managed again to mis quote me in saying all managers are unsafe (i actually put one manager in wenger who has been safe as houses for ages so you didn't even read my full post/ or just misunderstood it)

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18 Apr 2016 12:04:04
If, there is an aversion to Leeds by creditable managers then could it be salary, coupled with working for an owner who thinks he is the manager or could it be that whilstever there is an average life expectancy, Cellino is driving down that figure on his own. Would you, if changing jobs knowingly work for a volatile boss who has a well earned reputation for sacking employees ans) only on triple salary and maybe not even then. Depends how much you needed the work. As with all employees happiness at work is right up there with remuneration. Would you work dreading the next phone? I do not agree with sacking of managers. If you have sat down and sorted through every applicant, deliberated and finally decided that - he is the one then go and get him. No matter what. If things do not go right, as they sometimes do, then do not panic, do not reach for the P45. If he was a good manager when you got him he is still a good manager. He will not change overnight. Have faith ride the lows so you can enjoy the highs.

No one item makes a mind up "oh its Leeds so I cannot say no! " It is several factors which make a potential man's mind up re taking a new job. Remember what happens at Leeds stays on his CV forever.

Having said all that I do believe that continuity in all things is a positive so if it's status quo, let's give Evans our backing and see what he does in the summer. If it is a new regime (back to square one, start again) then for God's sake pick the right man for the right reasons. Leave him alone. Back him financially (sensibly) and sit back and enjoy the ride.

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18 Apr 2016 12:04:40
Must have missed your point as you do ramble on a bit.

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18 Apr 2016 12:37:49
BW are you alright?, you have come over very uptight the last few days, not been your usual humorous self, i'm a bit worried about you, or is it the Milwall want to fight everybody gene surfacing?

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18 Apr 2016 13:52:50
cheers for your concern, to be honest I was born a stones throw away from the den and all my mates and family are wall so it is in me. I will have to try and fight it, today I put on a baseball cap, ted smith shirt, chino shorts, flip flops and punched an old lady so maybe the gene is taking over.

to be honest the nevigitive on here is getting me down I know things ain't great but not as bad as people on here are saying. also it is the same things being posted again and again, mc not perfect but people on here make him sound like hitlers nasty cousin.

and every time I read on here. what manager/ player in his right mind would come to leeds. my heart sinks a little

leeds is a standard club, lots of sacking happen right not not just at leeds, managers not wanting to join a club like us are limited to about ten clubs most of them in lower league than us.

the equation for any manager looking at job is this (simple for notts to understand)

wage-status of club- competitions enter in = quality of manager

same applys to leeds, nots forest, chealsea, newcastle man city and east bumf""k. getting sacked is not a conern now days it is an inveitablity in almost every job in management, crazy chairmen. most are. So if a manager don't come to leeds it is because of wages or because he has a better offer. not because of MC football don't really work like that, so please can we leave it be befor I shave my head, get a lion tattoo and spit on a hooker and have a fight on a bus


MIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL wall

no one likes me no one like me no one likes me I don't care!

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18 Apr 2016 19:45:08
That's more like it mate, welcome back!

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19 Apr 2016 12:04:29
cheers mate your posts made me smile, however not back for long as millwall gene really took over last night and I got a court date due to an impending ASBO.

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17 Apr 2016 17:48:51
Keep Evans because the guy lined up is even worse I fear!

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17 Apr 2016 18:04:00
who is this guy lined up?

For me it is a tough one which is good as it means SE has done ok.

I would like to see us go for pearson, grayson, sherwood or someone who has good prem experience or good promotion expereince (so not holloway or mcclown)

if we kept evans I would not be gutted as he has done ok and who knows with his own players and summer prep he might do even better.

i just hope he drops the negitive possition side ways crap.

i don't think our playing sqaud is that far away one/ two good cb's to go along with cooper, one forward to rival wood and ant (both of whom I really rate) and maybe a creative type. I like dallas but need more cosistancy and think our midfiled is ok if we keep bridcut and more important tom diandhhesandnfhs or whatever his name is.

also this depends if our young players go, if they do but we get great/ good price I will not be too upset as other than taylor I don't think any have been great this season, although for me that is partly down to SE playing cook and mowatt the wrong way and not making the most of them (same applys to wood and ant)

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17 Apr 2016 19:04:27
If we lose cook and Taylor or mowatt in summer it's a blow but I'm sure we got talent coming through ranks it's just? Have we a manager to bring them on?

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17 Apr 2016 19:51:59
with them going it depends on fee anything over 5 mill is ok

im still out with SE maybe he is the right guy?

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17 Apr 2016 16:10:02
I lent a guy from work a shirt to wear to the game on Saturday (signed by Eddie gray) .
It was his first ever live game. So I am claiming my yellow macron away shirt was the reason we won. Perhaps I should lend it out every week.

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17 Apr 2016 18:05:39
can I wear it next time I go? not seen us win since 2001 and I seem to be like some gypsy curse so need all the luck I can get when at ER. in fact is the shirt for sale?

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{Ed001's Note - you certainly have made me curse a few times if that counts.... ;-)

17 Apr 2016 19:53:38
what can I say I am a people person, I bring out the best in people. if it is any cosnlation I also get on my own nerves.

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17 Apr 2016 20:09:42
Cannavaro!

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17 Apr 2016 21:27:16
what did you call me?

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17 Apr 2016 15:55:14
Right then, vote time.
Who would like to see MC keep big steve for next season? I'm not asking if you think that MC will keep him on, just who wants him to.
Agree - Keep
Disagree - New coach.

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17 Apr 2016 18:06:28
i can't i'm on the fence, only disagree if we can get someone better in as he has done ok and well and really badly all at the same time.

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17 Apr 2016 19:20:45
Have to agree with Bermo. Its a tough one. He seems to have a eye for a player as his signings have been good. Not sure about his tactics though. I suppose it all depends on who would take the job. Not sure anyone decent would. John Sheridan or Tim Sherwood I would be happy with.

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17 Apr 2016 19:37:39
What has Tim Sherwood done.

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17 Apr 2016 19:54:49
sheridan is an interesting one who I didn't think of, what is he like as a manager? bit before my time but loved him as a player.

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17 Apr 2016 20:51:30
BW mate, Sheridan has only worked in the lower divisions but done a good job everywhere he's been. he's got Oldham and Chesterfield promoted and won the Johnstons paint trophy with Chesterfield at Wembley. This season Oldham were effed at the bottom, Sheridan came in and its looking like he might pull off a Houdini.
He was born in Manchester but he is Leeds.

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17 Apr 2016 21:02:54
What has Tim Sherwood done? What had Revie, Clough, Ferguson, Wilkinson, Wenger, Mourinho, Klopp, and Ian Holloway done until they did something? Stupid question. Personally I believe Sherwood has the makings of a great manager as he showed at Spurs but at Villa wasnt given the time to do so. Great motivator and tactically astute.
For obvious reasons Ian Holloway can be taken off above list!

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17 Apr 2016 21:31:10
well after reading what you have said about sheridan he looks perect to me. good record lower down (maybe you could even argue a very good record) leeds man and up and coming and wants to make a name for himself.

on this little judgement I would say he he to be near top of the list for me.

agree about sherwood and would love him at leeds as well and holloway has to be off the list he was useless at millwall and they do not rate him their at all. think blackpool was a perfect storm and made him look better than he is (and his accent does my head in so be hard to listen to him pre/ post match)

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18 Apr 2016 09:16:52
Mentioning Sherwood in the same sentence as revie clough mourino doesn't add up for me.

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18 Apr 2016 15:05:52
Everyone has to start somewhere Wex. My point was they all had little experience at some time.

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17 Apr 2016 14:25:55
Well if not so big Steve E does well in the last few games and we finish 10/ 11th then I would give him a go next season and back him with 3-4 good quality signings or if no money then 2 quality signings and 2 lower league potentials types.

I would not pay too much attention to paper talk re Fabio C taking over cause those papers just make stuff up.

For example yesterday protest I reckon was around 150 -200 ( I didn't count every person but about that number) , YEP reported around 250 which OK not far off but Mail/ Express said 1000 which I'm sorry but is just a lie really to fit into their approach in my opinion.

Mind you if MC did hire Fabio would be a realcock up as the guy is not a coach and doesn't know Championship, if MC did that I for one would question the guys brain as you would hope he now understands what is needed to succeed in the championship.

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17 Apr 2016 16:21:24
If you look at the video footage of the march there's at least 1000-1500 the 250 your on about were the ones that gathered at city square then hundreds more joined the march up to ER.

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17 Apr 2016 17:32:04
20000 people were going to Elland road yesterday.

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17 Apr 2016 18:07:53
yeah gerlad but 1800 of them were in the queue for fish and chip and the others just trying to get to ER. also lots of people doesn't make something right. millions brought spice girls records don't mean the music was good.

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17 Apr 2016 19:03:35
Not what you were saying the other week BW.

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{Ed001's Note - I know, he normally tells everyone how great the Spice Girls are.....}

17 Apr 2016 19:57:31
true ed I love the spice girls, met sporty at an after party of one of my shows was really star stuck (least she said she was star struck) and holla is one of the most under rated songs ever.

what is not what I was saying notts? I think I have confused myself getting excited about the spice girls. might watch spice world on Netlicks

people of the world.

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17 Apr 2016 13:36:40
We should sign them both up! Oh sorry we have! Lol forgot been so long!

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17 Apr 2016 10:16:54
well first dallas gets two, then wood gets two shame it's 8 months to late.

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17 Apr 2016 12:12:10
Always looking on the bright side of life!

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17 Apr 2016 08:00:00
Have to say I'm impressed with Headingley stopped in a hotel and been impressed with the pubs and restaurants good win to top the weekend off also mot people 😎.

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17 Apr 2016 13:35:01
Welcome to gods country dj! Lol.

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17 Apr 2016 00:27:23
I just can't believe there have been people on here who have ever doubted the talent of Chris Wood, and the leadership and tactical sense of Steve Evans. I hope you are ashamed of yourselves. Innit!

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17 Apr 2016 02:45:29
I am. Give them both 10yr contracts before someone gets them off us!

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17 Apr 2016 18:09:17
is it too soon to say I told you so about both? I honestly think both will be fan favorites next season woods to hit at least 20 goals as long as fat man don't use him wrong way again.

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