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18 Dec 2011 22:49:00
The negativity of some fans is having a negative affect on the team for home games. Support Leeds United!!!
Under the current climate Negativity is unavoidable!
That's been apparent since August.
18 Dec 2011 22:46:29
i think people need to remember where we actually are in the league, still in the play off picture, yeah our home form is shoddy at the min, but so was West Ham's at the start of the season did you hear them asking for Fergies bumboy to be sacked? dont think so and look whats happened with them, bar the drubbing by reading, reading are a good side, were not gonna beat every team are we? people need to get real and realise we are NOT Champions League Leeds United anymore we are Championship Leeds United and Grayson is a brilliant manager and with his hands tied hes done the job, bet you lot calling for his head were singing the mans praises when he got us out of league 1, beat man united, did the double over QPR a feat no other team did last season, scared the living daylights out of teams like Arsenal and Spurs in the FA cup past few season
Well said us realistic true supporters are with u
18 Dec 2011 21:21:48
I think alot of people seem to forget what mr bates did to chelsea he redeveloped there whole stadium and then f***ed off and left them millions of pounds in debt and that what he plans to do with us he's started it already with the east stand then it will be the kop and so on then there will be nothing left of our famous old stadium so what i getting at his the guy is a snake just like risdale i hate to say it but he will leave us in a state mark my word men like him are only in it for one thing to rip everybody else of one more thing bates do us all a favour if not all then me and go wreck some other and not mine
Yea I hope he leaves us like he did with chelsea, in the hands of a billionaire that will spend lots of money, not the best way forward but would be fun
18 Dec 2011 21:01:59
Bates out its as simple as that you fans that think he's doing a good job will soon realise he's a conman just like risdale i wonder where that 7 million came from for east stand development i doubt it came out of his
18 Dec 2011 21:03:27
Montgomery anyone
Ha, ha Not Quinn?! You know who you are......
He is back for the transfer window, Monty n Quinn stalker haha
18 Dec 2011 20:55:12
I personally think that Leeds will go back for Jason puncheon as he is only on loan at qpr till January 2nd and he has not done anything really. Terms were agreed in August so I see it quite likely. Your thoughts ed?
Toby Gray {Ed003's Note - Why not,he was waiting for QPR to do a deal so he could play Prem football in the summer,like you say he has not done much of that }
Had his chance in August and chose QPR We want players committed to the cause
18 Dec 2011 20:53:00
Cannot believe everybody is saying grayson out let me tell u some facts bates has spent **** all on players he has promised sg money to spend ever window but he chats **** all the time the mans a tooth faced lier he doesnt care about leeds so the sooner you get that in your head the better
18 Dec 2011 20:45:39
im a fan of grayson to and if sacked who will we get no good managers out there lets stick with grayson get shut of bates sick of hearing how he saved the club leeds would never of gone under same as any other big clubs in the prem to much money to be made if managed in the right way
Billy Davies?
Grayson's doing a better job than anyone else could. Time for people to stop whinging and start supporting.
You'd rather have billy davies?
18 Dec 2011 20:29:28
All you Grayson lovers,are thick! If we keep him as mananager we are going no where.he is in a word Crap.
Give the man break, he's doing what he can. With hands tied behind his back by bates policy.
Really - I like Grayson a lot and I write software for a living - doubt you're clever enough to do that mate!
The Grayson hater at the top says we're thick yet he appears unable to punctuate a couple of simple sentences correctly and lacks a basic vocabulary: no need for the comma in the first sentence; incorrect word (nowhere) in the second; missing capital letter in the third. Go away and learn to write English properly and then we might take your opinions on other people's intelligence a little more seriously.
Go to elland road get on the microphone and call us all thick and see how far you get :) theres only one simon grayson! one simon grayson! theres only one simon grayyson!
I'm so impressed that we have a genius (who is able to write software) on these pages, that this is absolutely my last attempt to comment on the gnarly problem of what-to-do-about -Leeds. My inferiority complex has taken the final nosedive and I no longer have the confidence to proffer my own opinion in the presence of such luminous, nay incandescent intellect. Software-writer. MY WORD.
The software-writer is certainly pleased with himself! Having said that, SG forever!
5 A*'s 6A's and a B at GCSE. What did you you get mate? In Simon we trust.
What's this, a geek contest? Grayson is great if he doesn't get results for a while he will get sacked. However he is getting results so let him build.
Who cares what you got for GCSE's? Mine weren't bad either, but Im not posting them on a Leeds United forum. Problems my friend.
This topic of debate shows what the whole issue is with the leeds fan base kids who care about intellect and adults who care about leeds utd ffs grow up your intelligence should enable you to do some research the facts look at the stats and data of graysons time with leeds and it speaks volumes its dire then also look what he says public that also speaks volumes in the end my logical conclusion is that grayson should be sacked
for the record i purposely didnt utilise my grammatical skills and it doesn't require comment
18 Dec 2011 18:48:37
Im a fan of grayson, im not a fan of bates...i mean he saved the club and i have respect for that but hes putting too much pressure on the manager. Its so frustrating being a leeds fan, i mean when we play football and keep the ball down we look great but apart from the win at donny we just dont. I think grayson may be sacked if we have two or three more bad results in coming weeks which is harsh, but who would take over? Probably steve bruce (awful manager) id like to see billy davies at leeds to be honest, but again without funds maybe SG is better, we'll never know. I hope we have no players on loan by end of january, unlikely but none of the loan players have made a big impact imo. mot.
18 Dec 2011 17:32:37
To all the simon grayson haters if you dont like him then go support another team if not then actually start supporting the manager and the players instead of always slating them if u want someone to have ago at then try a man who's first name is ken and is full name is full of s**t bates
If you was spending over £30 on xmas dinner and it tasted of sh~t would you want a refund - exactly unfortunately we can't get refunds so we demand another dish on the menu and on that menu is another manager
Bates doesnt pick the team, decide the tactics or identify targets - thats the managers job. I'm not a Grayson hater but he has made a lot of mistakes as well as some positives. The goal keeper from Blackpool cost us 5 points and could have been more in just three games. Poor team selection and substitutions have cost us more. Still, all things considered, now is not the time to change. Let's see where we are at the end of the season. Bates is the owner like it or not. He got us out of the mire and is keeping a tight ship. Its up to the manager and players to do it on the pitch.
Bates tells grayson who he wants him to sign and he tells him how much he wants him to pay him in wages
18 Dec 2011 16:57:41
Leeds fans need to start protesing again before and after every game not just now and again but on a more regular are fans deserve to know what is going on behind the scenes we need answers from bates and fast we never ever seem to get any reasonable explanation on how the club is being run which as far as im concered the fans have the right to no we are the people that keep the club going this it just one big joke to him and it cannot continue to happen
18 Dec 2011 16:12:06
sorry but if we keep playing paddy,we are going to struggle,he is to slow and too clumsy!
18 Dec 2011 15:57:25
I really dont no why everyone is having ago at simon grayson its not his fault his boss his a tight t**t and not willing to back him with sufficent funds he needs to take us to the next level so dont blame simon because he is doing all he can his hands are tied behind back with bates in charge the sooner he f***s of the better for simon he needs a proper chairman and not a moron
Grayson should grow some balls and leave then
Why should he leave his dream job?
18 Dec 2011 15:47:08
Most people on this site that say grayson out dont even no what time of day it is and dont even go to watch any games they just wait for televised games there just part time supporters so zip it and get behind simon and stop slagging the man of he wants the best for the club as much as we do
If Thats the case why doesnt he buy somebody decent instead of getting has beens then not playing them. Shut up we pay our way and were entitled to our opion Bates and grayson out....
I go to 25+ games a season, and I also know what time of day it is,Home form is atrocious, Grayson has took us as far as he can it's TIME for a change.
Yeah he might well want success, doesnt mean he can deliver it does it.
What's the point of 'wanting' Bates out - can you afford to buy the club? If not, you're wasting your energy. He owns the club - end of discussion. I don't much like him but I know that chanting 'Bates Out' will make f*ck all difference.
The problems at LUFC go back way before Bates and start with Ridsdale. We're still paying the price for 'living the dream'. Shocks me how many people on this forum are still living in a dream world and are expecting Bates & Grayson to deliver premiership football with no money.
Get real.
18 Dec 2011 15:34:17
oh dear. and now we know why we need Jonny Howson.
Lmao Howson puts 1 good display in 5 and you sing his praises get real hes being terrible this year.
18 Dec 2011 12:50:57
Even my new rose tinted glasses didn't make yesterday luck good. What a waste of money they were!
Well the glasses are definitely not fogged up from watchin leeds play smoking hot football!
18 Dec 2011 11:59:50
Is it just me who can see wat bates is doing we'll spend the money from gradel sale and every one will get behind the team again and will be willing to pay the higher season ticket price and he'll end up with more money than he started last season fair play he's got a great business head but I'm not sure
Hmmmm I wish that bates was that shrewd but I'm not sure that's why he's putting up the prices of everything
Season ticket prices are not going up for existing holders. So there goes that theory!
Whoever disagreed with the above obviously has no idea.
18 Dec 2011 11:49:29
Why does some ppl think they know how the club should be run and if they were the manager they would buy every decent player going with some nonexistent Huge funds available and be sat at the top of the league? Sack Grayson , bates out, you don't know what your on about, Leicester perfect example, spent money got nowhere ummm so let's sack manager and get new manager, oh lost 2-1 to Doncaster, umm I dunno let's just go follow man city they know how to do it. At least where up there in the mix of a chance to get promoted and we still have the transfer market coming up to strengthen will SG and Bates said we will, if it wasn't for bates then we would of had no club and if it wasn't for SG we could be still in league 1 coz wise and Mac didn't do much do they, let's just see were we are at they end of the first.
Have you actually attended any games this season,because if say you were at Blackpool,Barnsley,Reading defeats and the poor performances against Coventry and Cardiff you would realise why everyone else on here is totally pi**ed of with what is happening at Elland Road.
Everyone else on here? Don't include me in your misguided views. If you want a team that doesn't play badly once in a while then go support someone else..good luck with your search. I'll still be here supporting Leeds and not looking for every opportunity to bash the club.
"misguided views" and "play badly once in a while" ,"go and support someone else" . I've been watching This team I love for the last 30 years home and away,trust me the fans are getting restless if were out the top 6 after the festive period attendances will hit below 20k and it will be the end for Grayson.
We're still in the top 6 - given that we're the lowest spending team in the league that's a miracle. Some people on here need to get some perspective. And yes - I've seen all but two of the games - it's not pretty but considering the total cost of the team it's better than we could hope for. There are players at some clubs in our division that cost more than the whole Leeds team and we're above most of the teams they're playing for..
Lowest spending team in the league? What a load of old fanny! If Portsmouth, Millwall, Forest, Bristol City and Coventry have spent more than us then I'm a Dutch Uncle! It's not about spending money, but how wisely you spend it. Any fool can blow a fortune - look at O'Leary and Ridsdale. We need 2 quality signings in January to create some fresh impetus and self belief, get rid of deadwood like Paddy and start actually turning up at ER. We could then conceivably make the playoffs. At the moment every time we get up there or thereabouts we go on a terrible run and drop back down. It's time for all fans to stop bitching and get behind the team for 90 minutes at every game.
18 Dec 2011 11:41:33
Any thoughts on the hearts lad templeton?
Like snoddy but rapid on the left
Would be a great addition IMO
Top player turns 23 in January so he is young. The hearts players not getting played at the moment, would fit into our vacant left midfield and would offer alot more than gradel did for all round game, fast, skillful and score goals, fellow Scotsmen at the club, it would be perfect signing for us and the sort of player we should be looking at to take us to the prem, having templeton on left and snoddy on right is a mouth watering thought. And that's my thought for you
18 Dec 2011 11:35:19
Has anyone read the season ticket post on the OS? It sounds like Bates is going to increase the prices of everything again. (does he not realise where in Yorkshire, not money rich London, we cannot afford the last two years increases, yet alone another one now).
We are becoming/are a JOKE. I feel annoyed that I have to pay a ridiculous price to watch what can be only described as 'A derisory shambles'.
It's not only that, but are press releases are dreadful and contradictory. We fans never get told anything RELEVANT to the actual football we are supporting and when we are it is either contradicting like having a 'Transfer Fund' or too vague like when we have injuries and are not told what is wrong with players and how long they are out. We only found out Somma was knackered via a twitter comment and then Grayson BANS it to prevent 'US', the paying supporters who's money keeps the club afloat, in the dark for the future.
I am really fed up with the management and ownership of this club. I've seen this club rise back to being European Elite and watched us fall to the depths of league 1. We never lost our passion and pride. From 2001 to 2010 (when we finally got promoted) I felt we were stronger as a club and fan base. (the atmosphere in league 1 was great and you could feel the passion at Elland Road especially against Bristol Rovers on the last day). The club should do one of 3 options: 1) Invest; 2) Tell us we have no money etc. like Bill Kenwright at Everton and 3) sell the club (especially if we have no money, like Kenwright and he's doing the honourable thing by finding new 'suitable' owners (not just the highest bidder).
My point to all you people who say we cannot invest or we will be bust again is to take a good luck at the past. (1)In 1989 Sgt Wilko spent 'money' and used the youth academy to supplement his new quality signings to get us up. (2) After relegation in 2004 we spent money (millions) which made us a force in the Championship to try to reattain our premiership status. (3) we would only be using money that has being brought in from e.g Delph, Gradel, Garbutt and television revenue.
My last point (now your sick of my ranting) is that we need a new regime. Which would essentially mean new owners who will follow a different concept to Bates. The deadwood need to be sold or given contract termination. New contracts for those deemed good enough and some quality signings. Remember last time we had Strachan who had been there and won trophies in a successful squad. An equivalent now would be someone like Lampard or Owen who still have that quality, but are winding there careers down. Not saying we splash major on the wages (offer incentives) for example say Lampard, you can offer him £25,000 a week and a clause in his contract saying after promotion he receives a lump sum of £1.4 million (27,000 a week extra back pay, so his pay would be 52,000 a week going on a 52 week paradigm) plus a 50% promotion wage clause. This would not only give incentive to get promotion (a desire is what are team lack as i think many know that they would have to leave), but would also ensure big names could be captured on reasonable money, whilst still in the championship. Obviously lower the squad size to cover the wage demands, and add a few youths as cover and ah presto we'll be all smiling again soon
I feel better now hope you enjoyed this, and hope you'll all be at Burnley (even though it cost me £31) M.O.T bk to the premiership {Ed001's Note - Kenwright is being held up as a model? Be careful what you wish for!}
Announced yesterday ticket prices frozen for next season.i think its because under grayson we are not going up!
Maybe not a model, but if Bates could do the same and leave and we could get a good investor for next season I'd be happy this season being mid table
OP- its only for season ticket holders renewing until the 31st of Jan if you read it correctly on the LUFC website. After that they may be subject to go up.
Other than the Lampard rubbish, i agree with what you're saying.
We were never a force in the championship last time round, we spent millions on rubbish who eventually gots us relegated.Made the play off final once and got hammered and were generally absolute rubbish playing hit and hope long ball aimed at the heads of healy and lennon who stood on each others shoulders couldn't win a header.
18 Dec 2011 10:46:40
Bates out?
Not that simple is it? like it or not he is there until someone offers to buy the club from him and he accepts the deal offered.
18 Dec 2011 10:46:20
Time to go ken your are club up slowly but surely am i the only one that can see it fellow leeds fans u need to wake up and realise that the man is nothing but a paracite
But you need to wake up and see no1 else is gonna buy leeds united at the present time so were stuck with him
18 Dec 2011 10:44:07
I think grayson should be given to the end of the season. If we finish outside play offs again, maybe review the siuation and look for a better manager. If he is sacked now out of haste who is going to come in now. Bates if he decides to get rid should take his time and make the right decision on who to appoint. Iv always backed grayson but the time has to come where you think, are we really going to keep progressing under him?
How about Eddie Gray till end of the season, he knows what he's doing. He could have got us promotion in the 80's but the board where again too impatient with him and his youth policy, which probably would have payed off as many went on to have really good careers.
I agree with 1st post, we shouldnt sack grayson now, if we did we might end face and relegation battle, see where we are at the end of the season and go from there! m.o.t jm
Yeah agreed. I sometimes look at the team we have and some of the supporting players and think that we should be performing a whole lot better than we are. I think possibly a new manager and fresh ideas are needed because i don't think throwing around x amount of money on new players will work, there seems to me something deeper at the club as to why the players we have are basically underperforming.
18 Dec 2011 10:37:47
I cannot believe some people on this site saying grayson is only one to blame in my opinion him and bates are responsible he did give him the managers job in the first place has promised a fighting fund for simon every window which has never materialised and doubt it ever will to be honest thats not all he calls are fans morons in our club programme what kind of a so called chairman says stuff like that he didnt even no who owned the club doesnt get much worse than that lets get one thing straight he hasnt saved our club one bit hes destroying it he doesnt care about leeds u idiots out there that some how think he does for some reason
18 Dec 2011 10:25:23
As far as im concerned grayson has definately lost the dressing firstly in the summer we lose 18 goals out of are team with a matter of hours to go until window andy obrien refusing to play for the club howson ment to be are capatain a joke turns contract down saying ill wait to see what division where in and then i will decide either way he moans when grayson puts him in a 2 in the middle its not as if he is playing for free
18 Dec 2011 10:06:06
What leeds need to do is just strengthen a few areas and not the entire squad like these idiots who base our entire season on our last performance.i think they should sign David templeton a great left sided right footed player with pace and skill.jacob butterfield someone to run our midfield whilst johnny is out because let's face it there going to need a replacement for the time being.eric lichaj a great right back who was on loan to us last season looked very good attacking and maybe a better striker let's face it keogh is not a goal scorer becchio has had is time in the lime light and we can't just rely on Ross to get the goals.my suggestion although seam abit ambition Jordan Rhodes.but I'm going to be realistic and I can't see captain Birdseye getting any money out of his pocket so will just rot in this division till that chelsea b*****d dies.
MOT
THE HOLTMEISTER
'till that b*****d dies' you disgrace our club you are no better than the rovers fans. Some of your targets however would be ideal.
18 Dec 2011 09:45:27
In Grayson we trust????
Trust ha yeh i trust him to keep us in this division then deteriorate season by season and to divide the fans even more.
18 Dec 2011 08:56:07
Just been scripting down all the comments and noticed around 90% of the agreements are in favour of Simon Grayson to be sacked - - I have always posted on here in support of Grayson but now think this January in order to sustain Ken Bates objectives, we clearly need a clear out - - I would like to see John Sheridan given a shot clearly done well for both Oldham and Chesterfield and a Leeds legend unlike Grayson
Sheridan? ffs are chesterfield not bottom of their league?
18 Dec 2011 08:18:16
The Rose tinted brigade, why was McCormack and Clayton taken off?
18 Dec 2011 07:28:36
God if I hear anyone say everything is fine, we are 6th etc etc.. my head will explode! The only followers that can be happy r the followers who look at the result, look at the table n think o grayson is doing well! But sorry fellas, u r not fans who watch the crap performances week in week out cos u wudnt b happy with 6th and the tactics which grayson employs, which are lackin! If all else fails he just throws attackers on and hopes for best! As for his motivation I fink he's not getting the team fired up for games enough!
So true in all your points
18 Dec 2011 01:13:11
Very worrying post match remarks from SG were - Everybody wants to get promoted but you can't just expect to turn up, get your wage and think 'if we win today, happy days, but if we don't we are not particularly bothered'. You have to earn your money.
........why aren't the players inspired? Who is meant to be inspiring them? Where do we go from here? SG appears to lack what it needs to inspire men - I don't blame SG alone at Elland Road but I do see him as part of the problem rather than the solution!
He is the main man at fault