Leeds Banter Archive October 18 2015

 

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18 Oct 2015 21:57:12
coach stated brighton best team in league hang on yes top at mo so that doesn't mean they are.

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18 Oct 2015 21:51:43
Rant number 2 about yesterday. Sat in the south stand screaming at Silver to release the ball quicker when it was 1-1, he didn't seem to have the intelligence to think we needed a win. Took forever and then gave poor distribution. Went down to early giving Zamora a bigger target. What was the point in changing the wingers around every 5 min. Wood is an out and out striker but needs someone around him to create chances. So asking him to play the holding role is not his natural game. Why can Mowatt only last an hour? Lewis please go through on your own and try to shoot, you may score and then your confidence will rise, that's when you will become the world class player you can be. Why when everyone in the ground can see the blatingley obvious, the keeper needs to catch the ball. We need to get the ball moving quicker, especially in the midfield area. What are we doing in training? Two weeks to sort this out and coach you stuck to your guns.

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18 Oct 2015 21:38:01
In the interests of the club I wonder if MC may now/soon realise it is right for him to pass LUFC to new ownership?

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18 Oct 2015 22:24:55
Who are in the wings desperate to buy?

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18 Oct 2015 23:30:04
Pearson. Now he has seen Leeds on the inside and knows the true value he might be in the process of putting together a consortium to buy.

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18 Oct 2015 23:58:36
Interesting theory.

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19 Oct 2015 02:49:02
Pearson got to sort out his marriage and Hull first.

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18 Oct 2015 21:07:58
At the start of any season the standard thing to say is let's see where we are after 10 games. Where we were after 10 games was up poo creek without a paddle. Sadly after 11 games we are drowning.
I thought Rosler was going to be the one but not now. I think we have good enough players but for some reason he can't get the best out of them.
MC please bring in JFH now. Change it now not when we are properly fighting relegation. Don't leave it to late or someone else will snap him up.

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19 Oct 2015 02:50:51
Bet Neil Redfearn is laughing right now. Worst decision ever wasn't firing him. It was suspending Thommo. Was Thompson officially ever fired?

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18 Oct 2015 21:04:00
Problem of the last few years' not just this season; we leak goals! We cannot defend as a back four, or as a team! We have to score at least 2 or many times 3 goals to get a win, and its looking unlikely that we are going to do that also at the moment! We need 2 central defenders who can do what they get paid for defend! Bamba is not good enough! Yet he rarely gets picked out; because who ever plays along side him is worse! Until we sort this out, a lot won't improve!

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18 Oct 2015 18:42:42
Another thing to be concerned about is our players look either unfit or tired. This I ascribe to Rosler's style of play.

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18 Oct 2015 21:19:39
Mowatt definitely looks lethargic, and carrying a pound or two, I think our style of play is also is very slow, seem to pass it around slow at the back inviting problems.

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18 Oct 2015 17:01:54
really miffed at Uwe, if a system isn't working then change it don't be so stubborn and pig headed to think that your way is the right way. I have said so many times on here that a 4 4 2 system with the players we have is the best formation. I know some people on here have mentioned poor defending but with a keeper who cannot command his area this leaves defenders doing his job and therefor being pulled out of positon. I would like to see a keeper who can do this brought in. that would immediately improve our defense even if wooten is playing ( he is useless by the way) why play him when byram is sat on the bench. Wood up front on his own is a nonsense he is poo. antilucy and wood together would torment a defense and with the supply coming from botaka ( if he can get the final ball right) and buckley or dallas. midfield of adeyembi and cook or murphy ( mowatt isn't doing it for me at the moment) would like to see sloth given a chance in his preferred position central midfield but even wooten gets a look in before him, I'm flabbergasted. with an addition of a keeper and a formation change along with some minor tweaks we have a team that can compete at this level as it stands. unless uwe changes and adapts then he needs to go, Admit it uwe heavey metal nonsense is not working go back to basics we will find winning ways MOT.

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18 Oct 2015 17:44:47
I think 3 4 3 is the way to go . Games will be far more open . We have some exciting players if used properly, yes we lost 6 0 playing that way once but I think we'd win a few 4 3 or 3 2. Got to be worth a shot .

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18 Oct 2015 17:58:00
we play four at the back at the moment and still conceding goals can't see it improving by playing one less there unless we get a bloody good keeper in. I think playing 4 4 2 we would win more than we lose and at the moment something has to change it just simply isn't working.

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18 Oct 2015 18:34:55
You know you have problems in the team when you miss a 20 year old left back, a 39 year old cart horse who led a line called after a cheap supermarket chain and a Jamaican who couldn't get a work permit. All during same week as club limit away support for bipolar reasons from a chairman who could be barred from acting any moment and we also badly miss an ex-ceo trying to fix his marriage. Just another week in Leeds United.

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18 Oct 2015 20:07:48
Yes George, the only table we top every year has now been taken away from us. This just goes to show how little MC understands what our club means to us.

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18 Oct 2015 22:27:46
George
When did Lidl play for us :)
(just trying, in vain as usual, to lighten the mood)

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18 Oct 2015 17:00:21
Looking at the the new arrivals. Wood is no better than Morison and morison led the line more effectively - but he didn't score. WEood can't he'd very well and he has squandered the chances he has made or been given. Buckley - I can see why Sunderland (even near the bottom of the league) didn't rate him enough to have him in their squad. Botaka - looks like a footballer and has potential and is cetainly our best winger and good to watch - final delivery could be more consistent. Dallas - pedestrian at best. Missed chances and, more times than not, when given the chance to run at defences loses control. Of out talented youngsters. Cook generally puts in a good shift although sometimes overdoes it. Carrying the ball too far at times and misses opportunities to bring others into the game. At times I thought he had something against Botaka as he failed to release him with an early pass on too many occasions. Mowatt looks disinterested and slow. Looks a little over weight too. Just ran around in aimless circles during the Brighton Game. Now that Belusci has taken his bat home for whatever reason Cooper and Bamba would be our best CH combination but I would never bet on them keeping a clean sheet. Both make too many errors - either in control or positionally. Taylor and Beradi are very good normally. Goal keeper is 'OK' but doesn't command his box. Nothing he could have done on saturday with the two goals. Doesn't seem to have much of an understanding with his defence. (whilst we might need a better keeper in future if he doesn't improve replacing him isn't out first prioity at the moment. So looking at the team as it stands at the moment I would say Rosler was being far too optimistic with his top ten finish target. What he should be saying is 'We might get into the play offs' whilst silently praying we don't get relegated.

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18 Oct 2015 16:29:39
Team Selection? If Byram has said he is not bothered then leave him out. If not then it is a no brainer. On a bad day he is better than Wootton and if he is not staying then he needs to impress potential buyers, in his best position. Botaka has the best attacking potential I just wish he would be given the ball whilst moving in an attacking flow of play. Most of the times now we clunkily bing it out of defence, stop, think, then pass it to him. As in here it is then let's see what you can do? All the while the defence (at least they appreciate what he can do) have doubled up on him. Some say that we now have 3 wingers I would say 2 and 2 halves. The other 2 wingers have flattered to deceive giving workman like performances ploughing up and down the touchline. To me a winger should have close control and dazzling feet or pace to burn chasing thro balls behind defenders (hopefully both attributes but those wingers are few and far between) .
Don't get me started on Wood! To play Dortmund/heavymetal you need quick accurate passing. Not hoofball to a tall striker hoping it sticks. The only what that MAY work is if the striker is called Lewandowski but even he works on the floor and moves like Anty whenever needed. I would say for Wood if we cannot get rid before Weds then put him in the back 4 At least he has proved he can keep the ball out of the net.

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18 Oct 2015 16:11:10
I think that MC will probably use the AP/Rosler experience as a reason for going back to the European model of Coach instead of Manager, We all to a man were very happy with the way this started out A Pearson, Manager in Rosler, Backroom staff, Coaches and some pretty expensive players (for us) thrown in the mix also ^ for a while it looked to be working nut with AP leaving it seems the experiment has come off the rails, I think Rosler is nowhere near adventurous enough and more than happy to try and settle for a point even from a winning advantage! IF this set up we have now fails and Rosler gets the sack I feel that MC will just use this as a reason to state 'I never wanted to do it the English way but everyone said it has to be this way! well I did it and it didn't work so it's going to be back to the Euro/Coach model? does anyone else feel the same way? I understand the need for stability but when does stability become a liability?

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18 Oct 2015 15:32:13
The worser manager? Rosler Hockaday or Milanic. Discuss.

I'll go with Rosler.

Hockaday garbage but at least got the players super fit.

Milanic garbage negative and defensive but made no promises.

Rosler garbage negative and defensive but made promises of heavy metal football.

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18 Oct 2015 17:46:16
Good post George.

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18 Oct 2015 21:11:05
Now your just getting silly George.

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18 Oct 2015 13:12:29
What are the coaches doing? or NOT doing more to the point. silvestre still not commanding his area too scared to catch it, there doesn't seem to be any sign that its getting coached into him, Botaka one of our few shining lights at the moment quite clearly needs coaching on his final ball makes the same errors on delivery for the second home game running why are our coaches not drilling it into them. Uwe says botaka promising but delivery could be better WELL BLOODY WELL COACH HIM THEN UWE (pardon my french EDs) I believe in the players but i'm not convinced by the tactcs and way they are being coached or not coached GGGGRRRRR see you at fulham people, be my last away game, Thanks Massimo!

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18 Oct 2015 14:11:30
Agree mate
Same players. Same tactics. Same errors.
Can't blame Byram for not signing a contract when UWE in charge and relegation battle looming!

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18 oct 2015 12:27:14
clearly something wrong you have to play yuor best players . so byram has contract problem . but he is paid to play . and then perhaps other things might get sorted but left out for wotton joke . byram every time . but as he been told don't play him if so wrong . wotton is all over the place a goal start . only seen high lights but bamba had to come over to right back why wotton still on half way line . donkey . byram had to start every body from us fans to mc must know that. so we can guess mc has said don't play him . get your act together the team comes first not your grudge against someone very childish.

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18 Oct 2015 12:26:01
We would all make better Leeds Utd managers or owners; in our own minds, but if we could sit behind the desks I am sure that we would find infinite decisions and complications that never see the light of day. So what I am saying is, Yes I know some of his choices do look strange but as fans we owe it to the team (and the manager) to support and trust in them to turn it around.
Thank goodness I am not the one to swing the axe or decide the execution date but until (if) that happens let's keep being supporters of this great club. Keep The Faith.

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18 Oct 2015 15:34:42
I was gutted at the end of the game we had made Brighton look an average side and yet we still lost to them. My big concerns which should have helped us get something from the game was team selection. Why was Wootten selected ahead of Byram he was our first choice right back last season and now according to Rosler who when interviewed by Radio Leeds openly stated that Wootten was first choice behind Berardi because he was a good defender, then why the hell was he out of position and left for dead when the Brighton winger raced passed him to score the first goal. Rethink again Rosler. Also why did he sustitute Botaka who had tormented the Brighton defenders so much that they dare not venture too much up the field for fear of him getting behind them . Once he had been removed from the game it brought their defenders more into the game. I cannot say enough as to how poor Silvestri is at commanding his area it often looks as though he is tied to his goal line with an elastic band which pulls him back as soon as he decides to move to get the ball and he wasnt so afraid of getting hurt he may have been able to save that effort from the old man Zamora. Rosler needs to sort this out sooner rather than later he gives too many goals away and is a liability. As for Mowatt he might have made the goal but that's the only contribution to the game is there something up with his legs he looks to have no life in them I am 40 plus years older than him and I think I could run faster than him. Sorry about the ranting but I needed to get it off my chest.

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18 Oct 2015 12:08:32
No cooper probably for the foreseeable future, means yet more losses if belusci's partnered with Bamba. Then bamba will probably be forced to playing the wrong side of central defence where he's not as effective.
We've got wingers now but Wood can't head the ball.
Keep playing Wootten.
An absolutley crazy, loosse cannon for an owner.
Still unsure about Uwe, give him another 3 or 4 games then let a new guy come in to assess the squad, have a month or so before the January transfer window.
No experience/old head in midfield.
The future's probably not so bright.
But on the upside, we are Leeds!

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18 Oct 2015 15:50:50
I've seen enough LIG.

Taxi for Rosler.

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18 Oct 2015 11:16:27
Cook and Bamba played well, Byram needs to start
Teach boka to pass properly
Drop Woottan. Silv. Dallas and wood. And mowatt
Sack UWE.

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18 Oct 2015 11:39:50
Nite night Aussie. Sleep well 😃.

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18 Oct 2015 12:03:39
7pm mate
I'm allowed up until 8!

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18 Oct 2015 10:49:54
I think we are all seeking success but need to be realistic right now. Uwe made the league position comment and feel strongly it is being taken out of context. Of course he wants promotion but it will not happen this year. We need to build further and aim for promotion next year. What he needs to do this year is to get more from the players and work out who he moves on. Personally there is a bit to do as I think foundations are there and its the top sides that have beaten us recently. On that note bear in mind we are not a top side, big club is something very different. Buckley not doing much so glad we didn't buy. I think we will go up next year and let's not panic yet. Uwe should be given til Christmas mot.

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18 Oct 2015 11:35:29
Vincent. I know where you are coming from, but which of our young guns are you assuming will stay another season?

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18 Oct 2015 11:48:04
Rubbish
There are no good teams in this league and in form this team could go up
It's team selection and tactics that are useless
That's uwe.

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18 Oct 2015 12:55:49
Sorry Aus not rubbish these teams are at top of league and were thereabouts last season. The stats show they are more of a top club than us. That is my point. Doesn't matter how well they play they are winning and getting points. We are not!

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18 Oct 2015 09:09:45
Cellino needs to go if he is making decisions like the one about the away fans, utterly wrong . Also the current situation with results is his fault, you cannot keep changing manager in a trigger happy fashion . You have got to big it up and brave it out to turn this around, not change the manager as it will happen again unless you get lucky.

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18 Oct 2015 10:33:25
Well PA, I don't suppose MC is planning to go anywhere soon. I think we are badly, badly missing Adam Pearson who added a level of sanity and acted as a buffer between MC's big gob and the press/FL/coach/players.
You are right that things probably won't improve if we get rid of Uwe, but it could be argued that MC keeps getting rid of coaches as he is just as impatient for success as we are.
I'm afraid that I no longer think we are going get better unless he stumps up some serious cash on a top level coach (if he could find one who would come) and/or 3 or 4 really decent players.
Unfortunately just don't see that happening.
Depressing!

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18 Oct 2015 11:04:35
If managers can't win then sack em! Simple!
How long do you want to continue losing pa?

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18 oct 2015 06:59:55
well more doom and gloom . wotton back so good news joking . all these new signing to build a better team but it will be as we could be in league one . no back bone no guts are the players there for the ride . with no aim in life like improve make a name for themselfs, is there a hero in our team . coach says 10/12 will be good your a joke . but looking like bottom . you should be pushing players to get the best out of them not saying middle of table and i'm happy . happy when you get out of town you clearly have no drive to improve . be a man and resign.

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