Leeds Banter Archive January 01 2012

 

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01 Jan 2012 22:07:28
i think matty lowton at sheff utd would be a great signing at right back

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01 Jan 2012 20:48:05
Look fact,we are not going up,Ken doesn't want us up,Grayson not capable of taking us up.next season yes but this is just a mid table squad and always will be

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01 Jan 2012 20:29:36
Townsend good start but then we thought Livermore was last year.good start but too little too late for Grayson.it will still be bye bye.draw tomorrow then prob defeat at palace.be nice to think of new man who could attract couple of quality players that may have gone elsewhere otherwise.

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01 Jan 2012 20:20:21
After Grayson slated his players other day he has told Connolly kisnorbo brown vermayln that there futures are not with Leeds united MOT

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Vermalyn - ? Not the Arsenal CB who we would love to have by any chance?

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The fin u know who I meant

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01 Jan 2012 19:58:52
i see one person has been on here disagreeing with everything, including hard facts. get a life.

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01 Jan 2012 19:06:21
Leeds should make a loan bid for experienced defender Elliot Ward of Norwich. Proven in this league and not getting a look in at Norwich after return from injury.

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01 Jan 2012 18:11:01
Blackburn can flourish with Youth why not LUFC ?
id use this eleven for Burnley

Lonergan
Nathan Turner Lees Gimple
Lewis Turner White
Zac Thompson, Clayton, Sam
Townsend
Bechio

drop Conners, O Dea, Brown and the Fin, drop Mccormack & Nunez ? to the bench
drop Keogh

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No. Too many untested players all at once. One of the things I do agree with about how SG does it is the blooding of youngsters on loan, sets good foundations for the future of the player.

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01 Jan 2012 17:51:40
Didn't see the Barnsley disaster. Who were the players guilty of not trying? Grayson is reported as saying some may not play for us again. It's unusual for anyone in a Leeds shirt not to try at least! Would be grateful if anyone who saw the game could enlighten those of us who didn't. Here's to a more positive new year. Come on lads!

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Michael Brown - Kisnorbo and Connelly

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01 Jan 2012 17:35:02
Think we could do a lot worse than bring some of the younger players through?

We look reasonably safe (hopefully) from the drop and nowhere near promotion anymore with Snoddy and Howell out, so what do we have to lose?

At least these guys WANT to play for Leeds.........??

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Who is howell?

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Sorry meant Howson of course,

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01 Jan 2012 17:19:56
Jesus we've made a good signing.
really good. Andrews, gradel and sharp/Rhodes and prem Here we come!

InSimonWeRust

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Yes, we have 10 million to match Rhodes' alleged value... Andrews is just another Brown, and Gradel is definitely not coming back so soon.

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Yer rusting away.

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I cant see any of these signings happening. Andrews - We can't afford wages, Gradel - Can't see coming back, Sharp/Rhodes we can't afford the fee. Will be a very interesting January

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01 Jan 2012 17:13:08
what stupidity from grayson danny wilson on loan from liverpool would have been quality now gone to blackpool

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Why does that make Grayson stupid? Maybe he chose Blackpool. Maybe Bates wouldn't pay his salary. Maybe Liverpool wanted him closer to home, Blackpool not being a million miles from Liverpool...Not sure Grayson would have had much choice in the matter. Maybe you're the stupid one... {Ed001's Note - he went to Blackpool as a sorry for taking Shelvey back from them early, Leeds were not in the running. It was part of the deal done during the Adam transfer, that Blackpool would get loans as well as first dibs on some of the unwanted youth (Bruna and Ince).}

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01 Jan 2012 16:05:17
One Swallow doesn't make a summer. There are other additions needed and clearly other problems, but I am happy about the Townsend signing. Has pace, some genuine quality and potential. Saw him for Spurs in the Europa League. Scored one ( great finish) and set up two more. He could add the penetration, pace and threat on the counter attack that we have been missing since Mad Max Gradel. Just hope he is not another Sanchez 'you' Watt!!

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01 Jan 2012 15:54:19
andros townsend still need another 4 at least going on yesterdays performance give us are money back ken please

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01 Jan 2012 15:08:35
I like townsend but another loan signing. I would rather give a young player a chance, sick of loans! Atleast send pugh and keogh home, i always defend grayson but maybe its time for a change. I would love to see o'driscoll in charge, he did well with donny with no money and lots of injuries and he even had bournemouth playing some nice football. All i want is to see us play real football but to do that you need a manager who thinks thinks the same. Also i hope lees is at cb against burnley, lees, white and clayton are our main prospects so atleast play them in their natural positions. One more thing, why loan a winger and not a defender? MOT

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Good post,were in dire need of quality defenders and have been for the past few years,as well as someone who can provide bite in midfield,at least another 3 signings needed,along with shunting out the dead wood.

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Since Snodgrass is out a month a winger is much appreciated.

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01 Jan 2012 15:00:07
All you grayson haters must be crying in your new years champagne as it looks like ken bates is going to give simon the time which he deserves to get it right.

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No, think the way both of them act at the moment ,bad chairman, bad manager,hope things change because Leeds are really going backwards

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If leeds are turned over tomorrow do you really think Larry will be the manager?

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Yeah Grayson wont go any were Bates wont give him the money it takes to get rid of him .and why should Bates get rid of a YES man.

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01 Jan 2012 14:13:22
Leeds team for tomoz lonergan turner lees bruce white sam clayton thompson townsend nunez forssell

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There is no way Forssell will start, he'll be shown the door soon.

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No chance of Thompson playing.

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01 Jan 2012 14:13:09
If we don't buy anyone today its because bates has blocked it because,a new manager would not want to work with someone else's transfers even loan signings,he would want to look at what he's got and bring his own men in.Simon was certain we would bring someone in tiday,I think the only reason simon hasn't gone is the timing with us having 2 games in 3 days.

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Not sure why anyone's agreeing or disagreeing with this - we'd already signed Townsend before this was posted...

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01 Jan 2012 14:11:00
Charlie taylor has joined bradford city on a one month loan

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01 Jan 2012 14:04:41
new full back needed conolly proved he is not good enough, new back up central mid because varynen proved shambolic and a proven poacher maynard anybody?

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01 Jan 2012 13:59:09
Barnsleys Vaz Te is up for grabs... should Leeds get him??

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He's scored 10 goals all season and 5 have been against us, could Leeds be his lucky charm ? :P

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Lets not buy players simply because the played well against us. I am the wrong side of 40 and the wrong side of 18st but would currently still fancy my chances against our back line!!

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*cough* Paynter

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Vaz Te has scored 10 goals in his last 7 games. Clearly a good player.

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01 Jan 2012 13:43:15
Team tomorrow has to be;

Macarthy

Lees Bruce Bromby White

Sam Clayton Valyren Townsend

Macormack Becchio

Got to be better than yesturdays abysmal team!

What do you think guys?

Happy New Year to all the super whites fans and please please let it be a better year!

MOT

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Bromby is currently out injured

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Worth a shout Becchio needs games to get match fit otherwise Forssell should have a chance

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I wouldn't play lees at rb. I was at derby game and before he went off he was always coming into a cb position and giving their right winger space. Would also play nunez as he seems to be a decent player on the ball

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It's a 4-4-2 formation. It has not worked for us this season.

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01 Jan 2012 13:40:10
Andros towmsend a leeds player until end of season great signing in my opinion

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01 Jan 2012 13:21:14
Andros Townsend has signed till end of season.
1 of about 8 players needed then

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As good as Snodgrass on the other flank will now create chances - good signing by SG but defence needs attention

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01 Jan 2012 13:13:51
Andros is here then

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01 Jan 2012 13:09:36
Andros Townsend joins Leeds till the end of the season - Source = Leeds Official Website

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01 Jan 2012 13:02:16
makes you now wonder if we all should have slagged o, brian off now...

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Why? he refused to play for club?

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01 Jan 2012 12:44:00
Players that are worth keeping, Lonegran, Lees, White, Howson , Snodgrass, Clayton, Nunez, Becchio, Somma. Players need getting shut of Rachubka, Connolly, Bromby, Kisnorbo, Bruce, OBrien, Brown, Vayrynen,Forssell, and what about giving some more of our youngsters an opportunity they can't be any worse than than the present crop of crap!

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Agreed, Poleon has been scoring goals for the u18's and reserves, give him a crack.

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I'd keep Brown for backup or 'shutting up shop'. He did a good job in a midfield 5 for a couple of games before Howson was injured.

I'd like to see a bit more of Varynen and maybe Forssell before getting rid.

I also think Connolly's OK - squad material rather than first team though.

Pretty much agree with the rest.

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I've seen Poleon play, he wouldn't cut it yet.

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I've seen plenty of the reserves and u18's and they are not one good enough for the 1st team t the moment i think we're a club in turmoil something clearly wrong behind the scenes

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01 Jan 2012 12:32:56
Will we sign eneyone to day

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Yes andros townsend on loan till end of season.
source os

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01 Jan 2012 12:30:03
Team for Burnley
Mccarthy
NEW RB/Thompson
Lees
Bruce
Taylor
NEW RW/s
ClaytonSam
Brown/Varynen
Nunez
White
Mcormack
Forsell

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01 Jan 2012 12:01:19
Spurs will not let andros townsend leave on loan untill Lennon is back fit as they are short of players on that wing

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He's already here bozo

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Lol hes already at Leeds Gj

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He's on loan to us till end of season.
source os

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Your wrong he as signed!! leeds site

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Deal done dont give up your day job

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I beg to differ ,he`s just signed on loan.

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Stop posting things that are not true he has signed did dream that you had spoken to h rednapp

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Townsend HAS signed for Leeds on loan. OS

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01 Jan 2012 11:58:19
I want Grayson to stay but if he goes I
Would be very happy with roberto di matteo. He gets his teams playing nice football.

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01 Jan 2012 11:54:16
Leeds target Liverpool defender DANNY wilson has gone to Blackpool. yet again another we have lost already ! Gj

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How do you know he was genuine target?

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01 Jan 2012 11:51:39
Most of the names metioned for the soon to be available ER job would not be willing to take it on at the moment.
More realistic targets for Bates are:
Andy Hessenthaler, Lawrie Sanchez, George Burley, Sean O'Driscoll, Danny Wilson & Paulo Di Canio.
Burley & O'Driscoll will be especially tempting for Bates since no compensation would need to be paid.

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01 Jan 2012 11:44:26
To get more money to get us near signing 2 or 3 good players, on loan or otherwise, there is a simple solution that SG needs to act upon

OFFLOAD:
O'Brien
Parker
Paynter
Keogh (no point resigning him, there are better players on his wages)
Bromby
Rachubka

This takes a lot off our wage bill and a couple of decent players could come in and help us win more

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01 Jan 2012 11:40:34
If we don't win on Monday, Grayson will probably be sacked....

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01 Jan 2012 11:28:43
Let's be totally clear about the situation at Leeds..
Grayson coaches the team, he sets the tactics, he (should) motivates the players, he makes changes during the match, he makes substitutions. Ken Bates does not have any influence in any of these matters so how the team perform is entirely down to Grayson and let's face it lately we have been abominable and during the rest of the season we have been average at best.

Now i'm sure some of you out there will say "yes but Bates doesn't give him any money. You may be right but no one can tell me that the teams Grayson put out home and away against Barnsley should have been beaten (thrashed) by a team of first division players and rejects who their manager brought in from Chesterfield and Rochdale.

No sorry it is all down to Grayson and his coaching team. We all know midfield is weak, we all now that again as last season our defence has almost let in the

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01 Jan 2012 11:08:02
I'd like to see drastic changes made ASAP to the Leeds squad by Simon grayson.
I think players we should hold on to are lonergan,Lees,Kisnorbo for back up as he always tries, white as he has potential and is quick, pugh, Clayton has huge potential, keogh might not be a gialscorer but he adds a lot of quality, howson,snodgrass,Nunez,becchio,Mccormack, bromby as he's good back up for this league.
Keeping them 13, id get rid of the rest.
We need 3 or 4 defenders, 3 or 4 midfielders, and maybe one striker.
Keep 13, add 7 players this window on loan or transfer, and promote Thompson,Taylor,gimpel and who ever else is good in the academy.

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01 Jan 2012 10:17:23
Leeds fans are the worst in the world for been over critical. We are lucky to have a club after risdale. Grayson gets us promoted from the pits of hell, takes us up to 7th in his first season in the championship without spending a penny. This year adds 4 or 5 players on free transfers and loans,promotes a fee youngsters,and stays loyal to the players that got us up there last season.the team has been in the top 6 all season. Then a few back to back losses so called Leeds fans are calling for a grieving managers head.on top of this he's most likely going through the stress of divorce proceedings. The team has not delivered so far,grayson now knows who he wants to stay,and who he needs in. There's no money to spend.we havnt got 10m in bank.but if we did, there's no one out there of any real quality who would come to play championship football. Reason grayson tried to go for bowyer and smith,? Proven players who can cope with the elland road crowd.the pressure Leeds fans put on players and manager is unreal.I've seen snodgrass booed off the pitch this season with fans shouting all sorts if obcenities at him.him and Howson have been our most consistent players all season.couple of bad games and you all get carried away.Gary speed would turn in his grave. I'm backing grayson to prove u all wrong end of season.busy transfer window ahead.

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Well said mate, I think thats the problem with football these days, There`s too many managers that are being sacked in a short space of time. We should be keeping grayson and letting him grow with the club. Anybody would think we were in the bottom 2, We do have a few injuries to our better players,We also have players playing match days that are not match fit. Come the end of january Grayson will have us back up there, You will see. MOT.

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01 Jan 2012 06:09:03
Well folks it's all happening on the various Leeds-based sites on the internet. Every man and his dog have an opinion on what's gone wrong at Elland Road.

Many people are saying they've never seen Leeds as bad as they are at the moment. I must beg to differ with that. Apart from one great season we were actually terrible under Bremner. It's conveniently forgotten by many but Bates actually gave Blackwell money to spend but all he did ws buy strikers and then either play them on the wing or leave them on the bench - and let's not even get me started on that play-off final against Watford! Under Gary Mac the defeat to Histon will stay with me for ever. I also will never forget a defeat to Rotherhem in the Johnstone Paints trophy at the Don Valley Stadium. We lost 4-2 and never looked interested.

There's no denying things aren't good at the moment but I still feel that all this internet delerium is not helping matters. I sometimes take a look at one particular website which shall remain nameless. On it, many are expressing the view that Simon Grayson should have been sacked for having an affair! The ridiculous thing is that the political views of many on that same website would make even Enoch Powell shudder! Hardly bastions of virtue!

A word of warning for those who want Di Matteo to take over. As soon as things start going wrong we would see a quick return to the "Get the Chelsea out of Leeds" chants which dominated during the Wise/Poyet era and were hardly conducive to success. Speaking of Poyet, another word of warning for those who would like him back - he's had money to spend at Brighton, look where they are in the league.

As for me, I'm a season ticket holder and will be at the game on Monday. I will be doing my best to roar the side on to a much needed victory.

My own opinion is that it seems almost inevitable that Grayson is on his way. I think it's a shame. We will find it very hard to find another manager whose love of Leeds United is so obvious. I don't believe there are any deep-rooted problems at the club, I just think there is a complete lack of confidence at the moment. One thing's for certain - a new manager wouldn't guarantee anything. I sy stick with Simon for the rest of the season and review the situation then.

MOT!!

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I agree with most of what you say, however I think there is more than just a lack of confidence. I feel that all is not well within the team and that the dressing room has been lost by Grayson & his staff. There is no inspiration and no passion within the team. Have you ever known us to fold so easily and ship so many goals under any other manager? This is a genuine question as I really can't remember as not that old. And what is the Andy O'Brien situation all about? Why is Bruce out of favour? I'm not saying Bruce is fantastic at defending, but he is certainly better than most of our defenders in my opinion. Why bring him back to bench him when O'Dea was only 75% fit (Sg's own words). I like sg, don't get me wrong, but I want what's right for our club and I want the right man to take us forward and back to the promised land.

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Yes mate, I have known us fold so easily many many times over the years! The 1980's were mainly a nightmare until Howard Wilkinson came. In more recent years I've seen Blackwell's Leeds collapse in embarrassing fashion on many occasions and I'm afraid Gary Mac lost the plot altogether.

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01 Jan 2012 01:37:59
We should buy
A right back
Cm clingen
2 wingers maybe gradel
And a striker BECKFORD he was great for us and will come if the price is right. He is able to out pace defenders a ease something witch bechio and the other strikers can do

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I agree exsept from clingen maybe a yuong player in between 17-22

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He's on 40k per week, something which we can only dream of paying players. Plus he's lazy and off form

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Wish people would stop going on about clingan his crap i should know i live in n.ireland and hes crap for our national side

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01 Jan 2012 01:27:47
Why are you saying Simon Grayson should be sacked? were tenth In the league and a few points from the playoffs and Simon spent almost no money just on lonergren all the other clubs have. We havent replaced gradel and will need a short term fix for snoddy now hes out. I fill we should give him time and give him money to spend in January on players witch will bring us closer to the premiership.
MOT

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I have stood by Simon for months but I think that now is the time for a change and we should bid him farewell with respect and gratitude for all he has done for us. Leeds for life

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SG has done well in the 3 years he's had got us promoted and nearly a play off position, but i feel he has run out of ideas in transfers and tactically. its time for change!

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01 Jan 2012 01:07:34
i like Grayson but maybe it is time to leave today from what i saw the team wasnt playing as a team , also didnt look to be playing for him . when they scored one i looked at the players then to grayson and no one reacted .once they scored that he should of been motivating but he had his head down . also coaching isnt good no motivation , no formation . maybe a change might be good also grayson has had chances to sign good players and made bad decisions when you look at it gary mac made our best players from our squad now , becchio , snoddy ,made howson play more if we was to keep him though he need more experience coaches and money for example tony parkes , gary mac who made us attack well and good with formations then let someone come in to help defence also 3 or 4 signings to improve first team like lichaj , st ledger , clingan , townsend .

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Gary Mac also took us to Histon and lost! Sorry but we were heading for League Two under him.

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01 Jan 2012 00:14:24
Happy new year to all leeds fans across the nation

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Thanks and best wishes to you mate Gj

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