Leeds Banter Archive January 20 2013

20 Jan 2013 22:46:33
Howson could be a new signing (on loan) as he sits on the bench most games for norwich, he still loves leeds as I've done some research and he grew up in morley (near leeds) and would be delighted to return as he will already know some of the players aswell. M.O.T!!

Howson..... The new smith rumours, left because he had to, local lad who loves the club, would love a return to his boyhood club, blah blah blah! Get a grip! Move on! Sussex white mot

I would welcome back the players bates forced to leave imagine if Howson, Snodgrass, Delph, Gradel etc... had just stayed here... don't understand the grudge against these players when there hands were tied. Of course most of them have gone on to play well and now are most likely financially out of reach.

Bates didn't force those players out, I don't like the guy but i'm not going to sit here as peolple just lie about him.
snoddy, gradel, howson all asked to leave and villa offered good money for delph.
never go back those lads had their chance and all chose to go to smaller clubs "more fool them" habibou in on friday 25th. warnock out 27th. MOT

Sure he has a view of ellend road from his house were he grew up.

20 Jan 2013 20:46:28
all out of contract soon or not playing, surely Leeds have enough clout to at least tempt someone
Dave jones Wigan
Frazier Campbell Sunderland
Chris brunt WBA
Frimpong arsenal
Maloudachelsea
Jay tabb reading
Velios everton
Boyata man c
Albrighton villa
Faurlin qpr
Palacios Stoke
Deridder Southampton
Simeon Jackson Norwich

Brunt frimpong faurlin and palacios all good players and would be icing players that's won't be payed silly silly wages

Albrighton, Brunt, Frimpong, Faurlin, and Campbell would all be welcome if price is right for them...about time we showed some ambition and made a statement with our signings

Malouda went in the summer pal, most will stay in the PL as they can all hack it there, but some very tasty names {Ed001's Note - Malouda is still at Chelsea, the deal to send him to Brazil fell through.}

20 Jan 2013 19:51:42
Another poor crowd at ER on Saturday. The rot needs to stop. We are in danger of losing out on a new generation of fans. As a Leeds fan and a parent I encourge my son to also be a fan, he's too young at the moment to understand that being a Leeds fan is in the blood but I will get there. The new owners need to act now before its to late.
Paulmot {Ed013's Note - Normally 6 wins in a row would fill ER, unfortunately the performances are terrible. 3 Pts has to be the main thing though and if Neil can sort the abysmal away record out then the play offs could be achievable. I worry about the horrendous goal difference, I can't see Leeds winning by 2 or 3 goals in any game so could miss out on play offs by goal difference}

Tottally agree ed, as Life long leeds fans we accept 3 points any way we can, but to attract new fans especially the youngwe need some encouragement from the club. I do believe all is not lost this season. Paulmot

I agree with original poster, I took my 8yr old daughter for first time as she loves to watch football on tv and asked if she could come with me to watch . After 10 minutes the reading books came out of the backpack and her comment at half time was ' I can't believe you come to watch this dad, its not like proper football on tv ' . If she can see it why can't Warnock

Totally agree Ed, Mainly for this reason IMO I do not think we will reach the play off's. We will lose/draw too many.

Hope i;m wrong!

MOT

I'm really worried ed the crowds have never been so bad.Do you agree the owners need to show there hand or are we been impatient because I feel we have the right to know there policy's ? Morecambe white {Ed013's Note - I think they should tell the fans their plan and be honest. I think they will go for it in the summer and if Leeds did get in the play offs it will be a bonus. If they came out and said we have a 2-3 year plan etc I think most people would be on board, they just need to prove they want to take the club forward and if they didn't they wouldn't have paid 52 million for the club}

I did want Michael brown playing for us unfortunately in 2002 when the blades knocked us out both cups. Right now along with some others he should not be here and the only reason I can think of why heis in our first team not even the bench is that him and warnock are LOVERS. Luke varney another journeymen, my dads mates abpompey fan and he was jumping for joy when he left. That sais it all really. I don't understand why any Gray is here if barnsley didn't want him why the hell would we ha ha. Our tactics are obviously terrible but our defence looks like it may be ok now peltier who I hated more than brown until now is a centre back as he was far too slow. With 2 or 3 signings I could see us getting playoffs. I would get a let midfield, right midfield and maybe a striker as I don't know if we will need one if becchio stays on form and McCormack continues to get the goals

Gray has left

Crmd

20 Jan 2013 18:18:44
Ha ha clint Dempsey class MOT

I don't believe any leeds fan would disagree to this post.We must have a nosey man united fan.Life must be boring at the top lol.One thig for sure fellow leeds fans there's always something going on bad it might be but still we are all in it together always remember that.MOT

20 Jan 2013 17:04:36
Habibou tweets hint he is coming to Leeds

20 Jan 2013 15:12:56
Like any relationship that's hitting ups and downs, We as lifelong leeds supporters moan and nothing is right. Yet we wouldn't be without either the other half or our beloved Leeds United. We bitch and moan into our beer. Yes we have had a turbulent rollercoaster ride over a number of years. However, I say to you constant moaning bitching and whining supposed supporters-- Get a life! Or go support Man Utd. I moan and think things to myself, but I'm constantly optimistic it will all turn out ok someday.

You carry on excepting what is happening at our club because I won't.We aren't attracting future support and we are been badly managed on and off the field the long term affects will ruin us "bigger picture".

20 Jan 2013 17:52:38
If everyone was like you bates would still be in charge and we would be heading to league 1 again.

The point about future supprt is very important. I'm a Dublin based fan and large numbers of Irish travel to ER regularly. Apart from being Leeds fans and Irish they have one other thing in common. They are all in their late forties or early fifties. All the kids over here wear nothing but jerseys. The profile of our Scandinavian fans ( thousands as well) would be pretty similar I'd wager

Ahhh well - it is something we might win again. White4Life. MOT!

20 Jan 2013 14:40:18
D J Campbell in talks with Hull. Another one that seems to have passed us by.

Good ! There is far better out there - how many clubs has he been at - Tells me either not that good or no commitment ( or both )

How do you know we were/are looking at D J Campbell?

20 Jan 2013 13:01:34
Can't believe what I have been hearing this last week, and even more unbelievable is the amount of negativity amongst so many of my fellow leeds fans. Its disgraceful. You want bates to no longer been in charge, you get it! You want a manager who wants the best for the football club, you get it! you want a team that has a chance of getting a play off place, in my eyes we've got it! At the age of 17, the majority of my life has been spent following a falling club. Over the last 4 years we have once again began to rise, and even with a few hiccups over the last 2 years, we are still in a good position. What i'am now struggling to understand is now that the club has the foundations to push on, it is the negativity of fans which is holding us back. We should be standing by the club, the owners, the manager and most importantly the players. I'm in dismay to the fact that fans are no longer with the team through both its 'ups and downs', but what I do know is that I will still be wearing the badge, and singing the chants no matter of the circumstances, through thick and thin. In Warnock I trust, and more importantly in Leeds I have faith. (Ed please put this on the main rumour page for all to see) {Ed013's Note - Its not a rumour mate}

20 Jan 2013 12:20:22
Forget ex prem players looking for a final pay day. Get some youngsters in and blood them ready for next seaso. Also I can't see why we don't attempt to get someone like Tom Pope from the lower league. The guy knows where the net is. MOT.

20 Jan 2013 11:45:52
be nice to see how plastic armchair supporters turn up next week for the spurs match where were they yesterday they certainly in the southstand freezing your gonads off watching that crap

As you say they were not at the game watching the crap on show, more fool us for beng there! Starting to wonder why I am bothering, quite possibly the worst football I have ever seen Leeds play, like all season. Think I wiil give this rubbish the swerve myself until this person who s managing us is gone.

Every time somone turns up to support Leeds, they are doing just that, supporting Leeds and putting money into the club; whether it is once during the season or every match.
You sound like a digruntled pleb who has no other commitments and is quick to open your fat mouth where it is not needed. If you want to critisize anyone have a look at the manager and the players who are only in it for the dosh, the more you go and pay silly money the longer it prolongs the agony for fans and incompitence within the club at the minute.
Fans will always be around, players and managers will move on. What you need to do is stand loyal to other fans.

Agree entirely. When we played Liverpool 6 cars lost on Dewsbury road in beeston stopped me for directions to the ground. Each car was rammed with 'Leeds fans'. Once a season fans are not what we need. We need loyal fans

This is pathetic. If a fan buys a shirt, a ticket or the most expensive program in Britain then in my eyes that person is giving money to Leeds United therefore a Leeds United supporter.
The difference is that you have die-hard fans and your normal fan. A fan is a fan.

20 Jan 2013 11:24:08
It sounds like we are bringing in 1 more player by end of transfer window and that's it .that's how I read the Warnock interview .saying there talking to a few early this week and if 1 signs it will be at end of transfer window.way I see it is we need a lb and a lm .

Warnock stated 2 or 3 did he not ? oh well just a load of lies yet again, same excuses clubs pulling out of the deal at the last min, wage demands to high.Bates still there erm yeah !

20 Jan 2013 10:33:12
So the leeds fans are glass half empty then Mr Warnock.
OK let's examine some points.
Every transfer window the fans cross their fingers and hope we can get some decent players to get excited about.
We're told that the club will be looking to strengthen the squad.
What we actually get is "the agent was too greedy" "their club are asking too much" and the latest ones "I've got a couple of decent signings i'm expecting to come in this week" followed a couple of days later by "I don't expect any new arrivals this week" and the infamous "icings on the cake" speech.
We end up with rejects that nobody else wants and a retirement village for professional footballers.
Meanwhile every transfer window a crowd favourite is sold or their contract is allowed to run out/come so close to running out that you've got to sell or their just forced out of the door.
Delph, Beckford, Johnson, Schmeichel, Gradel, Howson, Clayton, Snodgrass.
2 weeks into this window, absolutely ZERO new players have arrived and you, Mr Warnock look suspiciously like you are trying to hound out another crowd favourite slating Becchio after every game.
Meanwhile our saviours the new owners, at this very important part of the season must be playing darts with Lord Lucan and Shergar.
The team think their playing american football passing it to Kenny AKA the quarterback who then hail mary's it down to the other end of the pitch. The players then look like the seagulls in finding nemo looking up at the ball as it glides through the air shouting "mine, mine, mine, mine, mine".
We scrape a win against the second bottom club, we don't even manage to get a shot on target against the manager-less bottom of the table club in a derby match.
Then we have to listen to your arrogant mush telling us what a wonderful job you are doing.
In case you didn't notice I fall into the half empty fan category.
So how can this change
1. KEEP our better players.
2. GHF, GFH, BHS, VHS, Triple H, whatever the new owners are called, please let us know what's going on.
3. Lower the cost to attend matches, especially for juniors/families, survey outside the ground on matchdays and get feedback. Liase with the fans and make it feel like we are all one.
4. Warnock shut your cakehole (you too Jones). Stop having a pop at the player, fans, club etc etc
5. Remind the players that the police are at the ground for security purposes. They are not there to arrest the players for illegal activity like skillfulness, flair, pace or keeping the ball on the ground. Contrary to what you and the players seem to think, these attributes are not only legal but are positively encouraged and are not a breach of FA rules either.
Complete stages 1-5 and not only will my glass not be half empty it will runeth over
jt-lufc

Well said JT. Add to this the battle-weary comment I'm sure I've heard from Grayson, Bates, Warnock et al in recent years (recent weeks in the case of the current management) that we are only interested in making signings which will improve the team, not just squad players. So yesterday Hall, Tate and Tonge didn't start (not that I necessarily want them to) so they hardly fit the description of players who will improve the team. NW just loves the sound of his voice and there's no consistency or continuity in his various ramblings these days, other than his assertion that the majority of the fans are backing him, which I think he is woefully wrong about!

Very good piece of journalism. Well done.

It could well be that the players that are turning us down just don't want to play for Warnock, that is why he keeps signing his old mates

I agree it's time for some decent investment in the squad, but some of the lamenting for the departed really makes me laugh!

Clayton - nondescript midfielder, had half a dozen good games for Leeds. In the eyes of himself and some fans this made him into some kind of legend. Wasn't sorry to see him go. Currently being very nondescript for Huddersfield.

Delph - not improved since playing for us in League One. If you don't believe me watch a recording of the Bradford v Villa League Cup semi first leg.

Schmeichel - used Leeds as a stepping stone, had no intention of staying any longer than one season. Can't blame the club for selling this one.

Howson - brilliant one week, awful the next. Far too inconsistent. Last seen being outclassed at Anfield.

Snodgrass - see Howson.

Johnson - personally always rated this lad, but very few other Leeds fans did. Really makes me laugh now when I hear people saying he was a big loss.

Gradel and Beckford - now these two we really do miss, would love them back. Again though, interesting how they weren't always that popular when actually here.

Therefore think it's a little strange to refer to the above as "crowd favourites". There seems to be a fair number who'd also be quite happy to see Becchio leave.

Players always seem to go up in people's estimation once they've left.

20 Jan 2013 09:06:44
Another desperate performance.......gfh must see what we see and hear the unrest. Time for warnock to go, get Adkins while he's available and start entertaining us again

Nigel should be given the job. Sack NW I'm sick of this OAP playing style. Just because he's retiring this year doesn't mean we have to play like everyone is due for it. Would be nice to see some pace youth and simple passing for once just look at Watford against Hudders was something like 12 passes before they scored all simple as well. Nigel can do this and do it now while there is time for him to get some signing.

20 Jan 2013 08:51:13
Wins a win ok but not great was it.cardiff next in league.if we let them have chances the ball will be in the net.
See Philip hay mention Morrison, yes decent player but we need him as well as becchio not instead of.
We need more players not just a change around.
For me it's goodbye, brown, Varney, Pearce and green.and hall may as well go out on loan.that might free up abit of cash as gfh look increasingly shy of using a pen.
Hard games coming up, let's see what we are made of.shrew leeds

Cardiff were very impressive on the League Show last night, we will struggle to contain Tommy Smith!

Green out? Are you mad?

Crmd

A bit harsh on Pearce and Green, they have been contributing but agree with the rest

Byram will have smith in his pockeett {Ed013's Note - Not much room left in there as Zaha is still trying to break out!}

20 Jan 2013 03:52:15
Warnock said before game that they weren't anywhere near getting any of the players they want, which is probably just as we'll because they are probably crap anyway.
I would much rather get rid of warnock and not buy anyone till summer and give new manager a bagful of cash then.
I mean the bloke is a right libber, he just sounds line he hasn't a clue what his talking about and slags fans and players off. He dosent care about getting promoted or playing anything like good football. I mean realistically we ain't going up this season so why keep him when he is supposed to go at end of season
Never put off till tomorrow what everybody wants you to do today
Oh and where the bloody hell are gfh. Bit of communication wouldn't hurt. Gfh= gone on fishing holiday

19 Jan 2013 07:33:16
I'd really like to see Lucas Radebe manage Leeds one day

19 Jan 2013 23:22:08
3 years ago when we were complaining about ticket prices, bates said "if you want to watch premier league football then you have to pay premier league prices" since then, schmeical, howson, gradel, beckford, snodgrass have all left for decent money, we've been paying premier league prices and all we've got is a hotel and a load of Pompey rejects. We are now more than 2 weeks into the transfer market and still no signings. We really are been taken for a bunch of mugs, I personally don't think anything will change with the new lot, they are happy to bleed us dry and line their pockets, selling all our assets and keeping us mid table with an average turnout. I for one am sick of watching this rubbish!

My friend I to some extent share your frustration, however I think we need to cut gfh a little slack. Still very early days for them. They do seem to be listening to some extent, a couple of games in feb half term prices significantly reduced. P'boro and B'pool matches big reductions. I hope we see a few new faces in the next week. The team we see at present has mostly been put together under BATESENOMICS. ie, pay peanuts-get monkeys. Good to see the likes of Ross Barkley albeit on load, hopefully we can keep him for a bit longer. Played football on the ground for long periods today, and yes, at times predicable hoofball was noted. I am a little more optimistic at the moment, although not nieve to think we are top 2 (no chance of this)and at best a moderate chance of play offs. Was at one stage worried we may be in a relegation battle but I feel this is now unlikely

Time for all of the stay aways ( myself included) to start going down ER.
Atmosphere was awful for most of the match, better 2nd half.

Another 3/4k in the ground will make a massive difference, and the players definitely responded as the crowd picked up.

If you have not been for a while for understandable reasons then get down in feb, lets get ER bouncing again.

LLHB MOT

It will take an awful lot of bleeding to get their 50+ million back. They know that the only way is for the club to get promoted although their silence is deafening.

Which players have GFH sold. Answer none. And if your talking about Becchio going well my personal opinion is that he can go. His control is woeful and without 10 penalties his goal return would be poor. Yes I know the service he gets is appalling but with say £3m from his sale and we get a striker, a fast winger and a midfielder who can pass then the team will improve 100%.JD

£3 million wake up Bates sells our best players for a lot less than that to line his pockets, before you say Bates isn't in charge now, he is till the end of the season.