Leeds Banter Archive January 20 2020

 

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20 Jan 2020 21:56:02
Brom lose if we had a goalscorer we could be 5 points clear if them.

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20 Jan 2020 22:22:21
Luckily it’s contagious Wex as Brom would be four points clear ion us too.

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20 Jan 2020 22:45:57
Wex And the rest.

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20 Jan 2020 22:46:03
Wex And the rest.

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21 Jan 2020 09:49:04
Not just us getting the jitters then, they can’t blame it on injuries with the squad they got.

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21 Jan 2020 10:16:12
As i said before, it is Fulham we have to worry about.

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20 Jan 2020 21:14:46
Just finished writing my new book. Its called " 50 goals of Gray ".

You heard it first guys he's coming, 😉👍.

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20 Jan 2020 21:29:39
Speculation or Fact Doug?
Nothing factual online I can find yet.

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20 Jan 2020 21:49:52
Rumour that 365 are involved like Rooney deal, just offering a snippet i read.

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20 Jan 2020 22:01:05
I’ve read it’ll be done within 48 hrs. Plus Forshaw and Bamford have followed him on Twitter.

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20 Jan 2020 22:02:29
Close dougie. 32red said they believed a deal was close to completion. 👍🏻.

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20 Jan 2020 22:09:55
Cheers for. replies boys!

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20 Jan 2020 22:10:14
Sorry for the treble post! I’m guessing Poveda is also stalling, just to see who we bring in, and will sign either at the same time, or just after Gray.

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20 Jan 2020 22:22:41
50 goals of Grey sounds like a work of fiction.

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20 Jan 2020 22:29:17
Really hope so . # reinforcements.

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21 Jan 2020 08:30:53
How good would it make you feel though Alf, imagine you sitting there, Leeds shirt on, wind blowing through your hair, the hot breath of a chicken balti pie from the guy sitting next to you, ts 2-2 then all of a sudden. he goes in round the back, with such force and scores. Now that's just chapter 1 from "50 goals of Gray"
Are you guys wanting more🤣🤣.

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21 Jan 2020 08:31:04
Still have to wait for Bamford to break both legs and get the flu before he gets in the team.

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21 Jan 2020 09:22:14
Dougie I would absolutely love it 😍.

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21 Jan 2020 09:22:48
You meant the guy right Dougie?

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21 Jan 2020 09:34:42
Deffo Alf, was it the balti pie that did it.

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21 Jan 2020 09:56:58
Lol dougie! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.

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21 Jan 2020 10:26:53
Dougie2310 😂😂😂😂👍.

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20 Jan 2020 20:42:32
Seems like the nuttiness of this league is continuing so far! It's not just us!

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20 Jan 2020 21:59:26
And there we go! This league is open again, all of the way down to 8th and beyond for the playoffs, or top 2! Take heart from the fact that everyone is floundering at some point, and we will hit form again! Positivity resumes!

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20 Jan 2020 22:14:38
Glass is hakd full with you Bright . good mentalit

Agreed the league is open/ ordinary in standard .

but tne fact remains we have just ONE striker . furthermore who is not prolific to state it kindly

If in tbe next 11 days quality reinforcements arrive in the Leeds first team squad then positivity can definitely resume. but right now it's just an if .

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20 Jan 2020 22:53:15
Not really worried what others do we have to start winning to go up. Not bothered who goes up with us.

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21 Jan 2020 10:00:15
In this League, I think we have to worry what others do. Ok, that’s irrelevant if we win all of our games, but that just isn’t going to happen, so when we slip up, it’s encouraging to see others do the same. It’s almost as if us getting beaten, puts THEM under more pressure!

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21 Jan 2020 11:11:05
Yes Bright agree to a point its nice when others are struggling at same time as we are but we need to sort it out before they do. My point is we can not influence their results and i believe the next team to put a four or five match winning run together at this stage is the one likely to be in automatic in march. In my opinion at the moment that could be Brom, us, Fulham and maybe Forest who are capable and more likely to do just that. Brom and us will be going into those games with the fear of blowing it again. Fulham and Forest will be going into those games with the hope of catching us. Mindset plays a big part. As i said i do not care who fills the other automatic place as long as we have the other.

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21 Jan 2020 13:13:43
Totally agree BB! Mentality and psychological strength are needed by the bucket load right now! Hope Bielsa can sort it!?

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20 Jan 2020 20:40:16
Been listening to people who know Helder Costa and his talent has never been in doubt. His problem seems to be that for some reason his flamboyance has been buried. Someone needs to put their arm around him and convince him he is better than Ronaldo and can personally carry Leeds United to promotion. Either he is scared or the natural flair is being coached out of him to fit a system. Don't know the answer just thinking that currently he is not worth 15mill.

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20 Jan 2020 21:39:08
I have been told the same by a wolves fan who I play football with and do trust his judgement

He was quality for them in this league and you dint become bad over might.

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21 Jan 2020 09:31:51
Noticed none of our wingers have gone past players. Aloski never did always cut back inside, Harrison as well. Starting to think that's the game plan, no tall guys to aim for so play the percentage game.

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21 Jan 2020 10:02:36
That’s a really interesting point Bige.
I think the only time we take on a player is when we have a fast counter. Think we would score more by beating the man and crossing, rather than trying to walk the ball in.

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21 Jan 2020 13:04:02
There is no point in getting to the by line and crossing for Bamford to balloon over the bar!
Harrison and Alioski cutting in to shoot as they don't trust the finisher! WE scored more from crosses last year as Janson got on the end of some.
Will be different if we got someone to hit the target.

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20 Jan 2020 20:55:55
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20 Jan 2020 19:41:02
Killing thing is now any club who thinks we might be interested in a striker they know we are desperate so will add a million or 2 to their valuation add this to Radz reluctance to spend and we are in a catch 22 situation. So at this point I expect the same unforgivable result as last January where Radz will stick instead of twist yet again.

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20 Jan 2020 18:25:49
What about the guy Baghdad Bounedjh the Algerian he looks good him.

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20 Jan 2020 18:57:59
He's under a asbo over, listening to Elvis under house arrest in his bungalow, and to make matters worse he lost his passport so he can't travel.

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20 Jan 2020 19:49:26
Definitely in our price range.

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20 Jan 2020 20:32:24
What's the betting that IF we do sign someone it is completely left field. Someone never been mentioned. Possibly when he is named first thing we all do is Google him.

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20 Jan 2020 21:40:08
Heard he might sign if his police tag don’t go off at Thorpe arch.

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20 Jan 2020 18:08:19
Will grig from sundaland he scores tap in its what we need he he MOT.

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20 Jan 2020 18:02:26
Classof92 Noticing a post of yours lower down in response to a reply of mine regarding Kinnear. LMFAO 🤣🤣😂😂. Allow me to buy you some beers when we inevitably meet that was funny. Got me in a good mood has that 👍🌞.

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20 Jan 2020 20:51:32
Gladly George, Snakebites all round, a very dear friend of mine has experience of the real Kinnear. I liked yours also brought a huge smile to my face.

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20 Jan 2020 17:33:46
What ever became of Khun. Was he sold.

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20 Jan 2020 18:16:39
He's off somewhere teaching Paddy how to shoot.

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21 Jan 2020 10:04:18
Seriously interested as to where he is, if anyone knows?
He looked a real talent, but getting no U23 time at all. Injured? Loaned?

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20 Jan 2020 17:09:31
I am actually starting to get a bit tense about the transfer window. They say that no news is good news. but I am not so sure.

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20 Jan 2020 18:17:05
Tory See a masseuse.

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20 Jan 2020 16:19:41
Thankfully the Caprile deal is nearly done. A 3rd choice keeper should solve a lot of our worries.

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20 Jan 2020 17:06:13
Yes, more keepers than strikers.

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20 Jan 2020 17:59:39
Would he score less than Bamford if we played him upfront? 🤔.

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20 Jan 2020 18:18:45
He sounds like a cool car from the late 1970s.

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20 Jan 2020 15:46:02
What is wrong, we are 3 weeks into the window, no players brought in.

Our whole season, club and squad cannot revolve around one player joining in the January window.

Lots of respect to Rads, but he needs to go now.
(along with Orta and Kinnear)

The genius that is Bielsa can only do so much.

The players can only give so much. They have run themselves into the ground for the cause.

We just do not have enough players of the standard required. Everyone can see it.

Its just the man holding the purse strings and the budget he has set is not big enough.

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20 Jan 2020 16:42:53
You've it the nail on the head with what's wrong Radz.

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20 Jan 2020 18:06:38
We have in 3 seasons or so lost too many quality players without replacing them properly

Wood and Roofe up front
Saiz
Lewis Cook and Viera in midfield
Jannson, Charlie Taylor
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# takeover please happen asap.

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20 Jan 2020 19:01:19
Ah but we brought in Debock, Cibicki, + Jay Roy bet ya Rowett is bricking himself.

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20 Jan 2020 15:42:13
Think I would take punt on Andre grey, look at his record he did the job for Burnley. Feisty aggressive character it's what we need in the box.

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20 Jan 2020 15:29:54
The Rads £30m loan. Allegedly it could be that Rads borrows the money in the Clubs name and holds onto the money, transferring to one of his other companies.
If the club were to then change hands for £80m
Any buyer for the club would take on the debt £30m, plus future transfer obligations
(Costa £15m plus any others)
They would only have to make a balancing payment of the £80m minus these amounts.
This is similar to the scenario with Cellino.
GFH loaded the club with debt and Cellino took on the debt with very little cash up front.

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20 Jan 2020 16:22:20
Yep. Or he could be borrowing to ‘invest’ in the team. Chairmen very rarely invest their own money it is loans secured on the club.

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20 Jan 2020 16:28:11
That would fail the FFP. The same FFP quoted by the club every time investment is mentioned.

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21 Jan 2020 10:06:48
It would suggest to me how close we will be flying to flouting ffp if we invest, and this is to head that off.

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20 Jan 2020 14:45:37
Radz loves Bielsa.
Radz goes to Bielsa says we have a problem? . Bielsa replies yes but I can manage with the squad I have. Only buy if you really want to and he is better than anything I have (ie Cavani? ) .
He told Radz early doors that he can deliver with only a small squad and is to stubborn to admit he was wrong (which suits Radz) .

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20 Jan 2020 15:13:50
The small squad story was invented to cover for Rads lack of investment in a bigger squad. Its the club spin machine at work.

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20 Jan 2020 15:47:08
1970 no it is not we have heard it from Belisas mouth well his translatioers anyway. Plus he has always worked with a small squad and always had mid season burn out

Has he always worked with a small squad cis he knew one day he would manage Leeds and it suited our propergamder machine?

Come on.

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20 Jan 2020 15:50:34
Spot on Leeds1970.

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20 Jan 2020 13:46:30
A NEW STRIKER BUT WILL HE DROP BAMFORD SAYS HE'S DOES WHAT I ASK RUN RUN RUN BUT HE doesn't SCORE . that's WHY EDDIE didn't PLAY MORE A BOX PLAYER WILL SCORE HE SAID SO GOALS CLEARLY NOT IMPORTANT . BUT NOW LOOK WERE IN TROUBLE.

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20 Jan 2020 13:55:14
trouble is when bamford didn't play we all saw how vital he was. Leeds without bamford are a lot worse and it showed how much we miss him

trouble is with him we don't score enough

answer is to find a way to play eddie and bamford but belisa was unable to do that.

if we get a striker we will not be able to drop bamford as he is too important to the team

answer is very simple sack belisa nothing will change while he is here. bamford can not score and can not be dropped and belisa has no idea how to fix this.

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20 Jan 2020 14:23:22
Or get a striker that runs and scores. Simples.

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20 Jan 2020 14:40:22
Please Bermo. Not with the Bielsa out banners just yet. I do understand the frustration tho.

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20 Jan 2020 15:09:34
Sack Bielsa and appoint Warnock or maybe even Allardyce as they’ll sure get so much more out of this Leeds squad.

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20 Jan 2020 15:48:09
Thanks cork now we are talking sense

Mind you what do I know I wanted Belisa our in summer for Pearson and Pearson has done awful job with Watford.

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20 Jan 2020 16:23:41
I think Cork is being sarcastic there.

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20 Jan 2020 21:42:17
No Alf he has just finally seen the light that Bermo knows best good slogan for a tee shirt of coffee mug that is.

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20 Jan 2020 12:07:35
Reflecting on all the posts and the current sentiment, when you put all the views in perspective it becomes very clear the club is being run by a business man and not by a fan.
Everyone can see what the issues are,
the solution is to spend money,
the business man will not do this.
The lack of proper investment in the playing squad is quite alarming.

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20 Jan 2020 13:02:07
Therein lies the main problem . it always has been the main problem # Radz ( and Orta)

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20 Jan 2020 13:09:12
and beilsa for me many are giving him too easy a ride. many teams have got promotion without spending money

yes rads needs to invest but we should be going up regardless in my opinion.

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20 Jan 2020 13:09:34
Advised the same from the beginning. Advised same with Cellino. An Italian has neither inherent love for nor heritage with Leeds United. It's a business for him. He's done fairly well overall but he'll be judged on the next 10 days for sure.

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20 Jan 2020 13:42:43
BW a few questions to your reply

1.which teams have gone up over tbe past 10 years without spending ( any) money as you claim?

2) without any investment why should ' Leeds be going up regardless? Remember Leeds are a 'small '
Club according to you in your previous posts


3) Bielsa fine margins of success / failure despite zero net investment by Radz
Last eason was a near miss for promotion but it was the lack of any
investment by Radz in the January window that was tbe fine line between success and failure. Sheffield United bought 2 strikers and Oliver Norwood in the Jan window Leeds bought no outfield player despite Roofe being injured leaving just Bamford as our striker ( sound familiar) . that was the crucial factor in promotion

# Deja vu this season.

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20 Jan 2020 14:03:22
teams going up without spending much (this is by memory without looking into it)

Norwich, sheff utd, wigan, blackpool, derby, huddslefield, swansea, bournemouth, burley (twice) , cardiff, palace. the list goes on

now when you look at Blackpool, Hudds, Cardiff and Sheff utd. all of them went up when being in a far weaker position than us, hudds, blackpool, sheff utd, cardiff where all tipped to finish nearer the bottom than the top so I think I have answered that one pretty conclusivly if not happy with this answwer look into it, barnsley, hull swindon all come into my head while repliying (not sure if barnsley and swindon where in last ten years mind)


2. we should go up because we come so close last year. we chucked it away so with the quality in our squad (which is clear we have now dominated the league in quality for two years but results have lacked) promotion is a must anything less is unforgivable. yes when george said any player would love to come to leeds we are a big club. i disagree with this but factoring in last year and the squad and the world class manager calling the shots. we should go up

3. I agree rads needs to invest more. just saying if belisa was as good as many leeds fans and pundits claim he would of been able to do what wilde, warnock, fauke and wagner did. with no/ little money and teams not tipped to go up

my agrumenegt is ages old been saying it since summer but sadly our recent slump have given my views far more credance than they should have. belisa go prove me wrong. but i can't see it happening and it is really pi@@@@ing me off.

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20 Jan 2020 14:26:43
I would disagree with the fact our squad are quality. They are not and the only reason we are as high up the league as we are is Biesla. More or less the same squad were mid table or lower without Bielsa’s input.

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20 Jan 2020 14:54:22
Agreed Alf, in most positions we are just not "quality". We are doing well because Bielsa is squeezing every last bit of quality they do have but for some it's just not enough and some are being found out. The quality of the manager now is to spot the weak links and act decisively. There is no room for sentiment. Cut out the deadwood. I fear however that his loyalty/ stubborness will win out and this is just another team on his CV where quality football does not win games and he walks away with yet another failure on his list.

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20 Jan 2020 15:52:35
Spot on Alf and Leodis.

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20 Jan 2020 16:14:17
I too agree Alf and Leodis! Bravo!

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20 Jan 2020 16:25:40
I’m not sure it’s even stubbornness. There are no other options simple as that. The rest of the squad are worse than the first team and the kids aren’t ready or worse than the first team. I’m sure if there were better players Bielsa would use them.

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20 Jan 2020 09:41:37
It’s quite hard to stay positive on reflection of saturdays loss. Yes we are still 2nd, but the gap is closing rapidly. To me it’s not about the first half of a season it’s about the 2nd half, it’s about the run in and finishing the marathon strongly and in form. Which as we all observed last season we did quite the opposite and it appears that we are possibly heading the same way this season, however we hear the 3 wise men stating that the hey learnt lessons blah blah blah yet here we are on the 20-1-20 2 thirds of the way through the window and still nobody in to add to a squad that looks threadbare and tired. Jesus we can’t even get this 19yr old goalie and a Man City reject with a seemingly suspect attitude signed. We need to be hitting peak form through feb March and beyond and I fear that the lessons certainly have not been learned what so ever they have 11 days left, and I would say we need. 2 strikers ( forget bamfords misses, he grafts like hell but he is shot the kid is knackered) a goal scoring attacking creative midfielder, another defensive mid (we only have Kalvin ) and a natural left back and centre back.
That’s 6 new faces because we are so thin on the ground and the fact he sticks to the same 11 they all look jaded. If we don’t achieve promotion this season then it will be years until we have a genuine chance again.

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20 Jan 2020 09:54:23
Agree with your thought process but we are never going to bring in 6 players.

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20 Jan 2020 10:15:18
Notts I agree that they will never bring in 6, it’s just my frustrated observations mate. It’s getting a bit squeaky bum time with florists winning again yesterday! Fulham look dangerous as do Brentford . Our board surely can’t drop the ball again.

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20 Jan 2020 10:44:19
Yes they can. It doesn't help when you have Mr Soundbite Kinnear tell fans that we are not dicking around with the playoffs. Actions speak louder than words.

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20 Jan 2020 12:01:47
Totally agree with regards to old Angus, Notts. What does he actually do?

He never says anything of any note or interest ever! He’s like ya mate in the pub who you told a joke to and by the end of the evening he tells you the same joke back as his own.

Radz May have got many things right but Kinnear and communication are woefully short of what our club should have, deserves.

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20 Jan 2020 12:23:19
My sister has a friend who works at the Club's commercial department and although describes Kinnear as a nice person, his main focus is the real estate. Other commercial related matters i. e. charity matches he has little interest in.

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20 Jan 2020 13:17:57
Notts When I come across printed quotes from Kinnear, I always think of the former Iraqi minister of information who proclaimed they weren't under attack with tanks passing by visible through window behind him and mortar shells going off in background.

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20 Jan 2020 16:29:34
I’ve come across Kinnear under one of his many many directorships he is involved in, he would beat Mr Monk in a race under a closed door. I also have a mate at West Ham corporate hospitality who hasn’t a good word to say about him. My personal differences aside. what does he actually do?

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20 Jan 2020 09:23:45
Interesting how things tend to go wrong with Leeds transfers. We always seem to get players on the way down never on the way up unless they come through our academy. Orta was at Middlesborough but by the end the fans were glad to see the back of him. We get Bamford one good season but then drops right down the pecking order at Middleborough so we buy him. Forshaw looks to be a decent signing but like Bridcutt before him develops injury problems. Douglas plays well for Wolves drops down the pecking order. We buy him and he has a few good games. Form drops off and he develops injury problems. Costa plays well for Wolves but form drops off and, according to fans, he gets a bit lazy. We buy him. Looks lethargic and form is definitely average at the very best. Tyler Roberts was injured when we bought him and he seems to have been injured ever since. When he has played he hasn't been great. Add those to all the other players that never made the grade and its a sorry picture. The one player that we identified and agreed terms with was D. James and look what happened there. Hernandez is the only player who was past his absolute best when we bought him and who has made a positive and valuable contribution. Unfortunately I think time is catching up with him. Not holding my breath this window. We might get someone in but I would bet its not anyone that's in form or not injured.

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20 Jan 2020 09:37:52
As Bamford ever had 1 good season, 11 in 47 at boro (less than 1 every 4 games) Mk Don's in league 1 his best season, league 1 exactly
MOT.

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20 Jan 2020 09:42:15
As the transfer window runs down the nearer the bottom of the barrel we seem to scrape. Thought the young winger from Manchester city was coming to Leeds last week and would be signed by last friday, where is he? Italy i have heard.

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20 Jan 2020 10:01:04
It's the distinct lack of planning that grinds my gears. The January window is tough but those clubs that plan in advance manage to bring in players before the final day. We appear to plan to select a target, but we put our eggs in one basket, there appears to be no option B, C, D. When that deal falls through we then scratch around stinking of desperation and clubs try to take advantage i. e. Watford with Andre Gray. I wouldn't mind if the transfers were down to the manager or Chairman as they have other tasks to juggle, but we employ Orta specifically to do this job. Money for old rope.

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20 Jan 2020 10:12:24
Orta is about as much use a ashtray on a motorcycle.

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20 Jan 2020 14:30:35
Chris 😂😂.

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20 Jan 2020 09:05:24
One thing not to forget is the gulf between Reserve/ U23 football and the championship.
Alongside the physical endurance strength and high level fitness, the game is so much quicker. Add to that the style Bielsa plays requires even higher levels. So playing young players who are still learning in the team is not so easy and should not be rushed because this runs the risk of ruining potentially very good players.

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20 Jan 2020 09:14:43
You can destroy a kids confidence and knock him back 6 months if the timing isn’t right 1970.

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20 Jan 2020 16:19:06
Absolutely right, both of you. Applies to Ryan clearly. The striker position is one of the highest pressure positions, as we see from all the flak and abuse BamBam gets.

He’s a grown man, and you can see it affecting him, so throw Ryan in, and he misses a couple, watch him crumble. Exactly what happened to the Junior Dutch international Jay Roy Grot.

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20 Jan 2020 07:45:42
It seems to be something we can now count on. A collapse over the Christmas New Year festive season. I have seen many suggestions here around how to address these woes, but the obvious one seems to have been missed. Simply move the festive season to July, so it occurs in the off season.

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20 Jan 2020 14:31:43
Why didn’t we think of it earlier?

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20 Jan 2020 07:43:35
I think bielsa has been fantastic for Lufc, we were a mid table side and we were all hoping for playoff spot. He came in and has improved certain players and now we feel should be a top 2 team.
He does seem stubborn, if he likes a player, he keeps playing them, even when they not performing ( ie- Dallas, alioski, klich, forshaw and bamford)
I unsure what the go is with Edmundson, he was worth a try against QPR as no other forward. He must see something we don't but weird.
If we had a proper goal scorer, we would be well clear, both this season and last.
Still feel we will be top 2 but needs a striker brought in now.

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20 Jan 2020 09:27:37
Read today that orta is confident at bringing a striker in before the end of the transfer window as COVER for Bamford, here lies the problem, should say to REPLACE Bamford!

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20 Jan 2020 14:33:14
Did he say which transfer window? Summer 2025 perhaps?

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Review Of The Day 20th January 2020

20 Jan 2020 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th January 2020

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