Leeds Banter Archive March 20 2013

 

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20 Mar 2013 22:52:13
could lust not get together with fans and put together some form of supporters investment group to help put money into the club and therefore have a direct say in issues involving the fans and the club just a thought

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If portsmouth fans can do it then surely a club the size of leeds with its fanbase can.

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Issue 300,000 single tickets/bonds for fans to buy at £100 each = £30m this should buy club and remove GFH & Bates for good.

I'd buy 100 just need another 290,000 takers!

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"I'd buy 100 just need another 290,000 takers!"

I presume you realise your 100 shares at £100 each would cost you ten grand?

I can't see any way you'd find another 290,000 people (let alone Leeds fans) who has ten grand to spare, let alone are willing to spend it on Leeds?

Oh, and by the way, if everyone buys a 100 shares that means you actually only need another 2999 anyway!

300,000 divided by 100 shares each is 3000.

Glad you aren't working for GFH.

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300,000 - 100 doesn't = 290,000
300,000 - 10,000 = 290,000

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21 Mar 2013 19:51:12
It say SINGLE tickets, not every one buy 100 @ 10k Single - 1 ticket costs £100 :)

MOT

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20 Mar 2013 21:26:56
Well I don't know what all the fuss is about. Just go to the official site guys. Eveything that GFH are doing is for just one thing - to secure a strong future for Leeds United. Ken and his GFH buddies only want to see us fans happy and our team back in the Premiership. In a separate article our Manager declares that we are in great shape-just a bit unlucky that's all. Like Bates and GFH he's Leeds through and through as we have always known. So guys there's nothing whatsoever to worry or fret about. We are in good hands. I'm off to bed now and I'm going to put my 52 year old tooth under my pillow. Should get me the price of a few pints by morning!

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Too right mate. Its a fairy tale ending for all of us. Here we were thinking they were a bunch of money seeking, clueless monsters trying to bleed our club dry and all walk off into the sunlight hugging eachother and their wads. How wrong we were. What a future we and the team have. Warnock says this team with a little bit of quality will hold there own in prem. well that's music to my ears. All along I thought they were a bunch of has beens that coukdnt run or play football to save their lives. Just unlucky to be so far down the league. Phew! And I was wrong about warnock too. He is not untotal football and deranged as I thought. He thinks he is fantastic and gfh agree, they want to know what manager he thinks can follow in his footsteps ( if this could ever be possible ). Well that's fantastic news for us all!

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21 Mar 2013 05:35:56
Bates Leeds? don't think so.
Warnock will never be Leeds he's Sheffield united and having a laugh.
Gfh are the only people that have tried to make things better in the last 10 yrs.

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Yeah, and the chancellor's 1p cut in beer duty WILL get passed on to the customer IN FULL!

Dream on - lol!

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Too right mate. Its a fairy tale ending for all of us. Here we were thinking they were a bunch of money seeking, clueless monsters trying to bleed our club dry and all walk off into the sunlight hugging eachother and their wads. How wrong we were. What a future we and the team have. Warnock says this team with a little bit of quality will hold there own in prem. well that's music to my ears. All along I thought they were a bunch of has beens that coukdnt run or play football to save their lives. Just unlucky to be so far down the league. Phew! And I was wrong about warnock too. He is not untotal football and deranged as I thought. He thinks he is fantastic and gfh agree, they want to know what manager he thinks can follow in his footsteps ( if this could ever be possible ). Well that's fantastic news for us all!

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21 Mar 2013 05:35:56
Bates Leeds? don't think so.
Warnock will never be Leeds he's Sheffield united and having a laugh.
Gfh are the only people that have tried to make things better in the last 10 yrs.

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Yeah, and the chancellor's 1p cut in beer duty WILL get passed on to the customer IN FULL!

Dream on - lol!

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Do people realise that if someone saved £100 a year drinking beer now costing 1p a pint less he or she would drink 10,000 pints a year. That's near on 200 pints a week or 30 pints a night. the Chancellor is as generous as Bates. JD

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To the third poster who starts with 'Bates Leeds?' -The original post was irony and that's not what your missus does to your shirt!

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20 Mar 2013 21:17:14
Whether it is part or whole they sell they need to do it by May 1st or find £7m from somewhere otherwise they are in breach of the purchase agreement with Mr Pastry. The real shame is that the Saudi cash point is real but doesn't want to be a part of what is there now. Parkin and Stubbs don't rate much better and Pearson is playing hard to get. at the moment. May the 1st. If something hasn't already happened by the end of April remember this date.

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20 Mar 2013 19:59:40
Although Warnock has his detractors and maybe the football we've been playing has not been the most consistent or pretty, you have to say admit that he's been working under very difficult circumstances.

Its hard enough following the GFH saga as a fan from the initial takeover to this current selling of shares so can you imagine working in the midst of all that? It must have been frustrating and I bet he feels he's been given the shaft pretty hard.

I don't blame Warnock for this season - its been dissapointing - but hopefully next year things will get sorted out and we'll have some kind of stability to move forward. MOT!

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Ha ha. Good old sense of humour of the leeds fans!

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Ha ha. Good old sense of humour of the leeds fans!

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I thought the football had been consistent. S**** all season. JD

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Grayson had a lot less money and still just missed out on the play offs so I think Warnock is doing a bloody awful job!

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20 Mar 2013 19:57:24
All I have to say about today's going on is THERE'S NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE, gfh can't sing from the same hymn sheet regards statements of intent for the club, how the f--k can they run a football club, other foreign owners who run successful football clubs have men who know all about British football gfh have Shaun harvey the man's a f---ing person my grans got more of a chance of running a football club than that person, its like the blind leading the blind, f--k Harvey off and Bates, and lorimer and get someone like Pearson in to run your club and Leeds come be an absolute gold mine but it has to be run properly.

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20 Mar 2013 19:53:13
i understand the selling of part of leeds to investors ed but what I can't get my head round is why buy us in the first place if they havnt got suffient funds to see it through? mot nickybee {Ed013's Note - Profit mate, Leeds United has the potential to bring a lot of cash in once in the Premiership}

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20 Mar 2013 19:32:15
Imagine a world where KB came back on board as a "strategic investor" with a significant stake! Lol {Ed013's Note - Took the club to the Premiership, won the Champions league and the fans sang "There's only 1 Ken Bates, 1 Ken Bates, There's only 1 Ken Bates, 1 Ken Bates" what am I talking about, someone help me!}

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Ed Think you need a holiday, if we all chip in you could have one, after all your hard work. {Ed013's Note - Thanks mate, I am taking the kids to Orlando in June so will need another hol to get over that!}

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Ha ha, I like it Ed! An alternate universe. Although according to quantum mechanics ( and er, Brian Cox) there is rule that somewhere in a alternate universe " everything that can happen does happen". Somewhere KB is a Leeds hero! Enjoy your hols by the way. {Ed013's Note - Thanks mate, not til June though}

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20 Mar 2013 17:12:31
As a investor you will be looking for value for money, i. e if we sell byram lees and mccormac the value of sale will drop hugely, I don't think they will be silly enough to sell anything to be honest

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20 Mar 2013 18:49:00
No they wouldn't be so silly as to sell their prized assets they are building for the future what a load of ballocks I like many others am sick of been strung along, we were told the takeover would be complete for the January transfer window & we all know what happened then and you can dress it up how you like & make whatever presumptions you want about them not giving Warnock money because he was leaving at the end of the season it doesn't wash, what happened with the fans forum that they bottled out of ok if someone had a death in the family fair enough rearrange it for a week later but no that seems to have gone away completely. Sorry to say it but we have once again been deluding ourselves that GFH are going to be our saviours & provide funds and resources to take us back to the premiership In my opinion they are in it for themselves and I for one am very afraid where our once great club will end up. I hope I'm wrong

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20 Mar 2013 16:55:26
When are people going to understand that GFH is a cover for papa smurf he wants to sell now because its going to cost a fortune to compete with the new premier money on offer to the promoted clubs. Papa was hoping for a minor miracle with us in premier and him in a Monaco bank vault counting his coppers. Sorry to burst a few bubbles but that's business the Papa, s way.

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Sorry to burst your bubble mate, GFH are not looking to sell, just for investors to join them.

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I. e. they want someone who actually has money to "invest", while they can stay on and milk profits undeservedly. who would do that?

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20 Mar 2013 19:46:01
Unless you are Haigh, Patel et al, you do not know whether they are looking to sell or not! GFHC accounts say they are, GFH say not. In other words it is a need to know scenario and the truth will come out when they want it to meanwhile we continue in a mushroom like state feeding off speculation. Sound familiar?

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20 Mar 2013 19:59:44
Er! an investment bank?

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20 Mar 2013 16:42:09
Once again some person put 2 and 2 together and got it all wrong. Gfh have said from the beginning that they would be selling a chunk of there share and that's still the case. Some person has just undone the hard work gfh have started to do.

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20 Mar 2013 18:04:57
As usual time will tell but I think GFHC should consult with GFH before publishing such statements as the accounts reportedly say they are holding the club for sale not seeking investors. I would not be surprised if today's statement is a smokescreen to buy more time. Either way this is a ridiculous way to conduct business.

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20 Mar 2013 16:26:37
buy! sell! buy! sell once again on the meery go round. to be a leeds fan all the fun of the fair.

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20 Mar 2013 16:25:34
It is my sons birthday at the weekend and I asked him what he wanted as a present, he said "Cowboy Outfit" so searching on line you will never guess what I found in items for sale!

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I am very dissapointed with what is happening as in my opinion It did look look like GFH were building for the long term and it looked like they were going to help us out of this division, with all the reduced prices and season tickets being reduced but now they have shown their true coluours which is that they were skint and were looking for a quick buck. But at least they didn't string us along for 8 years. At least now a proper football club owner will come in perhaps the American guy who was interested but he was too late, he promised up front payments and 10 million pound to spend in January so maybe he could be interested again now were back up for sale. If GFH are looking for quick money than a rich owner would have to come In as I doubt they would atcept instalments so really this should turn out positive as long as the negotiations finish no later than the middle of the summer so we can build for the new season

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GFH ARE looking to build for the future, they are looking for additional investment, same as they ever were, not a total sellout.

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20 Mar 2013 16:24:22
just a thought to our great fans
a total boycott of all things lufc until gfh sell up
season tickets shirts programmes food games the whole lot. make them sell at the lowest possible price. giving the new guys a good fighting chance of getting the takeover sorted asap. do not renew st until there gone. message to new guys erase bates from our history
gaz1966

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Yeah, that should bankrupt the club all right, let's do it!

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How about let's not real fans support there club through thick and thin not just when they feel like it what a stupid idea

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"Yeah, that should bankrupt the club all right, let's do it!"

I posted that, I was being sarcastic in case you didn't realise!

What on earth would anybody gain by bankrupting our club?

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21 Mar 2013 07:53:12
what would anybody gain from bankrupting our our club. bates did it 6 years ago he gained a training ground a stadium need I go on. the only think I care out is lufc my passion. my fellow fans let's not get ripped off again.
gaz1966

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20 Mar 2013 16:19:28
I hope the message on the OS from the owners stops the garbage that has been spread on here. They are not going anywhere, just looking for other investors to work alongside them. A normal thing to do in business. Don't see any mention of selling up! Too many journalists have an agenda with Leeds Utd and like to stick the boot in, leading to fans believing them. I hope now people will back off and let the owners do their thing. A new manager is their top priority and buying some flair players to add to the squad in the summer.
Just because they're looking for new investors doesn't mean they've no money either. If, as many believe, GFH wanted to make a quick buck and leave they would have sold out to Pearson but they didn't so cut them some slack. MOT Ron.

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Sorry Ron. but WRONG.

GFH (parent of GFH Capital the owners of Leeds United FC) specifically said they are looking to "SELL their stake" in Leeds United.

GFHC then "clarified" that they only want to attract investors.

Unless GFH are planning some restructuring whereby GFHC is owned/operates independently of parent GFH. this means the corporate guys clearly said they want to divest themselves.

This highlights the shambolic nature of GFH and GFHC. it is amateur monkey night at the zoo.

(But at least said Monkeys will be wearing a white shirt and coming to our cut price games. )

I weep.

MOT

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20 Mar 2013 15:21:49
i remember when bates was rejecting various bids for lufc and said he would make sure it would be the right people what a load of rubbish gfh capital we are in this for the longhaul what a load of rubbish

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20 Mar 2013 15:16:17
David Haigh leeds fan my arse

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20 Mar 2013 14:55:37
GFH were always going to sell up, even if we'd gone up.
Look at this as positive, Mr Bates will be long gone. Vinny.

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He's not gone yet and when he goes he will have lined his pockets generously!

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20 Mar 2013 14:47:25
oh goodie steve parkin was close to buying leeds I do not want this to happen as he wanted ian dowie as manager if he does takerover lufc let's hope he had been drinking when he said that

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20 Mar 2013 14:34:51
i am fed up of people messing around with our fantastic club and amazing supporters, why do they tell us lies all the time, all they ever wanted was a quick profit, they make me sick, I hope the likes of bates and gfh can never take control of a football club again

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20 Mar 2013 14:32:33
So with another takeover looming next season, GFH lied to us but more importantly so did Bates. All that talk about in for the long haul and the finance available it just wouldn't be "crazy money". More like any money! Potless Bahrain! At least they are doing the right thing by selling but I'm expecting more twists and turns. We become the laughing stock. What kind of a manager are we going to get now? How can we fund summer transfers? GFH bound to sell Byram and take half proceeds for themselves before they exit. Victory you say? The takeover wars have begun.

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20 Mar 2013 14:21:29
Don't give them anymore of your money. Season Ticket money will be pocketed along with anything else. Byram and any other decent assets will be sold and then they will sale off with Bates who has a hand in this. They should be investigated by the FA to find out wtf is going on. Nobody wanted to deal with Bates that's why these crooks have got involved to make more profit then split between themselves and Bates. It stinks big time

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20 Mar 2013 14:04:05
don't get why gfh made tickets cheaper to get bigger home crowds just to make them smaller by letting everyone know they are now selling the club. Ruining there hard work.

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I think you'll find GFH are looking for ADDITIONAL investors to join them, same as they ever was - check out the OS!

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20 Mar 2013 19:53:35
The OS is just another way of them feeding us whatever they want us to believe. In truth we do not know who is telling the truth. They will not show their true hand until they choose.

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20 Mar 2013 13:56:01
GFH really need to come out with a message/statement for Leeds fans that clarifies exactly what is going on. Who is going to renew their season tickets with the level of incertainty that has now been created? If they want we to renew by April 20th, they need to tell me what is going on. I know business deals should be kept secret but I am an investor ( st holder) and surely I am entitled to know what I am going to get for my money? cn

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20 Mar 2013 19:56:49
Great they have made a statement! We can all rest easy again. Yeh whatever! We are in the middle of a russian roulette table in my opinion.

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20 Mar 2013 13:51:36
Toronto White here.

This last 18 months has been particularly naff.

The good news out of all this manager/ownership/chairman palava is we will get finally sorted.

After August we'll have new owners with cash, a new chairman, a new talented manager and a well improved squad.

The one constant will be the passionate fans that EVERY other club in England envies.

We are Leeds! Marching On Together!

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Are you sure? JD

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Yes. the For Sale sign is official and Colin's off to watch his son play football in Plymouth and duaghter play netball.

Thing that could derail it is unrealistic pricing by GFH whose net few milllion invested was not accompanied by any real business or financial restructuring. so not much value add over their original purchase.

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20 Mar 2013 12:55:53
All these people saying Bates out months ago, I posted be careful what you wish for and better the devil you know than the one you dont. so now we have owners who don't want the club are out of its depth, a manager who is due to leave at end of season, can we trust gfh to replace him no, can we trust gfh to invest anything into the squad no, can we rely on gfh to sell our better players to boost there profit yes, that don't care about Leeds utd there just bothered about profits. Leeds utd fans have to hope someone buys us in the next month to save us from a nightmare, because we will be managerless, because who would want to manage a club when they don't know who there owners are, you can kiss goodbye to Nigel Adkins after what happened to him at southampton, I just hope we don't end up like Portsmouth.

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20 Mar 2013 13:56:22
Gfh are 100 times better owners than Bates was. They actually giving back to the fans with cheaper tickets free home shirt when you buy an away shirt.
They were always selling there full stake in Leeds united but I was thinking it was bits at a time not all in 1 go.

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They never wanted Leeds mate, they are smoke screen for Bates.

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No they are not a smoke screen for bates get your head out of your arse will you

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20 Mar 2013 12:11:49
dundee whites here just what the hell is going on at our club we must be the only club world wide this sort of thing could happen too massive buy out everyone up beat then 12 weeks later back 2 sq one please god the next buyers do have some money to put things right but we all should get set 4 a long long long takeover if the last one is anything 2 go by but knowing leeds it should be done when all the best players and managers are all gone 2 other club leaving us with the scraps oh 2b a leeds fan it never rain but it pours

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Things can only get better, that's without GFH, they were only in it for profit, let's get owners who have a passion for football

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Worst part is if we have to go through the vetting process again for the new owners.

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Oh what a surprise only a few weeks ago, gfh stating that they were not looking to sell to Pearson at all, Bates has taught them well, lies, lies and more lies, and let's look into our crystal ball for the summer transfer window, no money to spend because the new owners didn't have enough time to invest. Same old Bates United

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To 3rd post. Shouldn't have to. Any new purchaser would buy the due diligence done by GFH from them. JD

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"To 3rd post. Shouldn't have to. Any new purchaser would buy the due diligence done by GFH from them. "

Maybe so, but they still have to be vetted by the FA to make sure they are 'fit for purpose'.

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20 Mar 2013 12:04:08
Club for sale again!
Looks like Ken Bates has stitched up Leeds United and their fans big time, we are a joke and will never get anywhere with the uncertainty and lack of investment that has become the norm for what was a once great club, but now reduced to selling it's best players and languishing mid table playing rubbish football.

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20 Mar 2013 11:43:00
is it really a suprise that gfh want to sell on?
we knew that were really struggling for cash to support team. it all pointed to that before and with what we didn't do to improve team that only confirmed it.
they were hoping for a big fluke. they thought we could fluke our way up, have the tv money then happy days for them cashwise.
hopefully someone will actually step forward with enough to support a push next year.
we are not asking for millions just actually keeping hold of best players and buying some pace or quality.
the problem is will a new potential sale hold everything up again and take months. shrew leeds

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20 Mar 2013 11:41:17
who can we trust anymore? the takeover took an eternity to happen, with Bates stating that everything would be hunky-dory and well worth the wait! seems GFH have made a small profit on us how much Mr Bates? we are a complete laughing stock and going nowhere fast. please please please someone save our club

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Worth the wait for Batesy

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Its obvious Bates didn't act in the best interests of Leeds United, only himself, GFH banked all on gaining promotion this year then taking a hefty profit and selling on, all this crap about building a sustainable future for the club is utter bo--ocks, for Bates to sell to them is an absolute disgrace, the sooner we get new owners the better, we have been stitched up good and proper by Bates and GFH, both money grabbers with no love for the club, once again, lions led by donkeys.

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20 Mar 2013 09:48:31
Just read neil warnocks view on os about team, job his done so far and views on teams next eighteen months and manager etc. I have no idea what he is talking about. It all seems absolute rubbish. Is he talking about a dream? He surely can't hobestly believe what he is saying. I am flabbergasted that this bloke is still our manager and not wtapped up in a nice warm jacket in a padded cell. Are gfh absolutely crazy and clueless. Whether they are selling tomorrow or next month. What the f. Sack him!

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I agree with your post. he said he's left us in a better state. sorry neil you havent. we are about where we were under grayson but playing worse football. infact grayson prob had less funds than you. shrew leeds

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20 Mar 2013 09:43:02
TOMA2 then!

buckle up.

Paul - Isle of Man White

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20 Mar 2013 07:10:21
gfh selling club again explains why no decent investment and why the club as stuck with warnock as manager. they are probably hoping things will happen by end of season.

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20 Mar 2013 07:05:25
Lets just hope takeover done before end of season otherwise we will see the sale of mccormack, lees and byram for sure

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20 Mar 2013 02:21:51
Could the recent news of GFH-C selling their stake in Leeds United be the theory a few of us had a while back of GFH being a buffer between whoever wanted to buy us in the first place and bates. Now the new owners (whoever it may be ;) ) won't have to put up with bates and will have a new season to prepare for if they get the club sooner than GFH did :)

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You have a very good point there. Nobody wanted to deal with KB did they and he was very keen to sell to GHFC. He put up with a lot of delays etc. where you would have expected him to take his ball home and then crow about them not being professional etc. GHFC obviously did a massive amount of work to bring the club to be a more easily saleable asset. If they have been able to facilitate a sale to people who wouldn't deal with KB then they have done a good job and deserve a profit for their work. they have invested to keep the club afloat and no more. Here's hoping the new owners are the real deal and are determined to reap the riches available in the EPL. Maybe there is still a fairytale ending for us all.

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