Leeds Banter Archive March 20 2016

 

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20 Mar 2016 18:17:47
There's no point in blaming this player, that player. This formation, that formation. This coach, that coach.
We have a squad that is at a level that is just about good enough to keep us in this division, no more than that!
To get out of this division we need better players. Better players cost more and demand higher wages.
Players won't come to us just because 'We are Leeds'. They'll come to us because we'll pay them more than someone else. That's why Forestieri went to Wednesday, not because he fancied playing in blue and white stripes.
I'm starting to wonder what Cellino is hoping to achieve from his time with us. I've always been a supporter of his, but unless he puts his hand in his pocket this summer then what's the point of him owning us? What does he get out of it? Apart from grief!

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20 Mar 2016 19:05:35
Totally agree Danum. Our current league position is probably slightly higher than our true ability. Bet Massimo would never have dreamed of buying us if he'd known what a nightmare it was going to be. Lack of proper due diligence was only the start of his problems. But you are correct Danum, even if the fun has gone out of it for him, his business head must tell him he can only make money if we get promoted. And that's not going to happen until he digs deep into his pockets.

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20 Mar 2016 19:13:00
Just wondering what position the teams that spent bigger and paid bigger wages will be in if they don't get promoted like wendies and how they will manage next season under embargoes. Time will tell. Not saying we don't have to invest just need to be prudent imo Leeds are not that financially solid just yet to risk going for broke. I know we want to be back in premiership but we need to walk before we can run and in reality we as a club are just about " off our knees" and dare I say it thanks to cellino.

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20 Mar 2016 19:56:32
How do you know all the teams that have spent money will end up with embargoes Wex. Even if they end up not being able to buy new players they will still have better players than us. How many more season's do we go on like the last 5-6, before realising, not competing for the players who can take is up is going to see us in this division for a long time at best. Look at Villa, stagnating for seasons, then down they go. Cellino needs a plan. 1) Get a manager he trusts. 2) Give him an adequate amount to compete. Not stupid amounts that will put us back in financial trouble. 3) This is a massive pre season, if Cellino doesn't provide sufficient funds then the Cellino out brigade will grow and keep growing.

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20 Mar 2016 20:01:50
Totally agree wex spot on!

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20 Mar 2016 20:17:32
You mean like the embargo qpr are under. what a joke.

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20 Mar 2016 20:45:12
I agree Wex, sort of. But our squad is a lot better imo than position. Look at teams like ipswich, brighton and brum. Player for player they are no better than us. The problem is changing a manager does not help and Evans will be gone sooner or later. I believe if we kept Rosler we would be on a more sound footing. The three teams mentioned have had time to work under their manager and are now reaping the rewards. Just a thought?

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20 Mar 2016 20:47:20
I'm just saying who knows how these clubs will end up if they don't get promoted and I'm not saying we don't need to invest. What I'm saying is I'm not sure we are financially sound enough to risk going for broke and we all know how the penalties and punishments for Leeds are different from everyone else.

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20 Mar 2016 20:50:31
And like I said" time will tell how wendis and foresteri will get on maybe he'll be for sale on the cheap in summer. Who knows?

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21 Mar 2016 02:16:09
Agreed danum. July and August will provide the watershed. If no big money spent clear MC don't care. We will not only watch smaller clubs get stronger and beat us, we will watch Taylor Cook and Mowatt acquire premiership employers. This summer or never for Leeds United.

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21 Mar 2016 02:46:33
Cork
If we kept Loser the only sound footing we'd be on is Bolton Wanderers. Literally. For you to believe Loser is better than Evans is a truly unique opinion.

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21 Mar 2016 10:03:29
George I feel selling our promising young players is high on the top of MC's agenda. I don't doubt for one minute serious money will be spent in the summer and we will be no better than we are this season. I have watched every game this season and I feel we are quite lucky to have some very poor teams in the division this season and I feel we would be involved in a relegation fight if these poor teams were not in the division MOT.

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21 Mar 2016 11:47:10
Shag
I concur sadly.

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21 Mar 2016 16:59:30
can see sense and good points in post but can't go for this summer or never for leeds utd. Think that is touch dramatic. AS long as leeds don't fold and have good fans leeds will always be our leeds so this summer of never is very 'Arsenalist' view. Also look at bournmouth etc the little clubs can rise. At this rate we will soon be a little club then we can do a bourmouth. all we have to do is wait another 20 years MOT.

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20 Mar 2016 18:01:47
Our last 7 managers have been garbage
Colin
Nice Guy Brian
Baby only good with Thommo
the Hock
Mandarin
Loser
Bipolar Fat Boy

Our last 5 owners have been garbage
Prof Mck knew nothing about football
Snaker anagram
Papa Smurf
Bahraini fraud banking human trafficking liars
Italian sandwich short of a picnic

I need lithium.

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20 Mar 2016 19:08:29
Don't post that on Twitter Georgie boy, or that's a free holiday in the sun for you for a year or two.

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21 Mar 2016 02:43:05
Speedy
I only have to abide by the laws of my own jurisdiction. This means they'd have to get me inside their country. Since I'm about as likely to go to such a country as I'm likely to undergo a sex change, become a Chelsea fan and change my name to the Queen of the Potato People they'll need to have invented an anti-matter teleportation device to get me charged. I'll take my chances bro. Free David Haigh.

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20 mar 2016 16:46:34
i guess we are all saying the players have no back bone no will to win . ok we played well thiss week . fans happy so next week does it matter . so half hearted . or in pain english no guts.

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20 Mar 2016 17:19:01
This is only time I can remember I wanted to see back of manager and owner at same time. Wanted Papa Smurf gone every day but his managers were ok. Wanted GFH gone every day but Nice Guy Brian was likeable. I gave time to Cellino realizing he was big improvement on the Bahraini bank built on sand just didn't approve of his managerial appointments or way he treated Thompson and Redfearn. But now Fat Bipolar Boy has to go and Cellino can sling his hook back to Italy along with his mouthy sons. Maybe mcbadgekisser was correct. This isn't the Leeds any of us fell in love with. #Cellino out #Evans out.

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20 Mar 2016 19:34:34
Well it's not the Leeds I fell in love with, as sadly the chairman, manager and several players have passed away. Only hope there are some more glory days before I go as well.

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20 Mar 2016 15:10:37
We conceded 4 against Brighton recently, nothing learned from that. Tactics wrong, it's bin said for long enough our defence is wrong.
Not encouraged by SE comments about transfer targets of quality not easy to attract, is this preparing us for disappointment next window. However the team performance is a reflection of the manager. Look at teams who have been promoted to PL last 4/ 5 years (no disrespect to any of them) . What is it, why is it we can't produce the same togetherness and confidence.

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20 Mar 2016 15:52:31
Because we are still in recovery mode from the Ridsdale era, have an owner who is one fry short of a happy meal. a manager who apart from weighing a metric tonne, wears makeup and has lost the plot mentally and the dressing room. A team which contains Murphy and Bamba, a squad which includes Wooton, no fight heart passion desire or pride.

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20 Mar 2016 10:37:24
Well was at the game, typical of Leeds to perform so badly when we had 29000 + in!

I have to say that SE needs to take a lot of blame for this result.

For me he picked the wrong team, I mean how can you not play Carole against his old team as he was bound to do something, but Murphy and Mowatt always seem to get bi-passed when pressure on.

But worst than that was that after 50 mins it was clear to all of us that our midfield (and up-front) needed to change as it wasn't working.

He just sat on his arse did nothing, I could not believe it, sure Dallas scored but I would have bought on Dave, Carole and Wood, 2 of them on 50 mins when still 1-1.

I know you can say hindsight but it was just so clear Murphy/ Mowatt were just shit. Mowatt (as I have always said) just seems to not be able to run, tackle and only scores the odd wonder goal, when we under the cosh he disappears faster than a bag of chips at the end of a night out.

Murphy, well sorry but what is the point of him? he is always crap when I see him, that is a lot of times over the years as weel, pointless player.

Son and I left after the 4th went in, not over reacting to one defeat, just very surprised that SE didn't seem to understand the need for change when 29000 others did!

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21 Mar 2016 12:54:53
Said before murphy and mowatt no good together, teams walk past them.

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20 Mar 2016 10:14:40
Hopefully the best thing to come out of the last 4 games is the realisation to the Evans believers that actually he is all wind and p*ss as my Grandad used to say.

He simply never has had the class or the track record to manage a club like ours, although in fairness none of MC's appointments have had the track record part.
I dislike Evans with a passion and I always have.
My hope is that MC has a bang on the head and suddenly decides that we need a guy in charge of the team that actually has the experience of getting out of this division.
In the meantime we as fans needs to have the equivalent of an AA meeting sit down and say the words I am a Leeds fan and we are a bottom half of the championship side.
MOT everyone and keep the faith.

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20 Mar 2016 17:37:03
Good post.
I am a Leeds fan and we are in the bottom third of the Championship.

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20 mar 2016 09:53:54
well enough said same crap couple of good games then fall to bits . only seen high lights likely me . bamba bad marking one goal then goes down on his knees . slips on another goal . this bloke in big and yet he is no power house more softly softly . and captain he's always casual . evans says i've saved leeds got three signing funny most are on bench now . so evans you still talk double dutch . and team this week was wrong .
we go forward then two steps backward . so something wrong . do we have a coach someone who works out freekicks tactics . etc . clearly evans you don't . pick a team and let them get on with it .

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20 Mar 2016 19:30:32
Unfortunately SE (Self Egotistically) doesn't seem to realise that HE is the one person linking all the good and bad together and can't work out why? Next change should be him, I think, but unfortunately Massimo will be blamed for 'pulling the trigger' or 'manager eating' once again?

For gods sake Evans realise when you have a winning team DON'T CHANGE IT!1.

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20 Mar 2016 06:29:34
Had time to digest yesterday now. First why change a winning team? Three from three all be it not three great performances with maybe the exception of Blackburn where our midfield, yes the midfield that he completely changed yesterday was outstanding. I work with a few dog botherers and they have said since Wagner has come in he has got them playing with passion and getting stuck in. Why oh why does Evans drop Dave? The guy is a big unit.

Our first half wasn't bad, but it soon become evident we were getting over run in midfield. How come everybody in the ground could see this, but Evans persisted! I'm not a fan of the way he sets his team out, but that's the only trick this pony has, so why f**k about with it.

I have seen our last 5 games (All be it Brighton on TV) and with the exception of Brighton our performances haven't been much different. We have had some luck (Cardiff) and we have had stupid 20 minute periods where it all goes tits up like yesterday and Brighton.

I guess what I'm bumbling on about is Evans is no tactician. The sooner this season is over and we can identify a decent manager the better.

God I can't wait for work tomorrow to see those Town fans, who will pull me apart. Cheers Leeds.

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20 Mar 2016 07:46:36
I was an Evans fan but the last couple of weeks the pressure has clearly got to him. Weird comments, hypocritical remarks and his team selection yesterday was poor. Either Cellino is getting to him, the job is too big or both. He's a good enough manager usually but he lost the plot. Maybe he isn't the man to take us to the PL. If Cellino fires him we'd probably only get another Hock type if indeed there's anyone as bad as him.

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{Ed001's Note - when has Evans ever shown himself to be a good manager? A fairly decent lower league/non-league one yes, but good? Nothing has shown that. He can't even cook the books properly.}

20 Mar 2016 08:05:59
By good enough I mean adequate. After Hock, Mandarin, Nice Guy Brian and Loser SE seems great.

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{Ed001's Note - ah ok got you.}

20 Mar 2016 08:27:47
Evans has been talking in riddles lately. Claimed to have dropped Dave as he had a niggle but he trained all week and was fit enough for the bench. Dropped Cook as he was exhausted but we had not had a game for a week. Felt that Murphy had a good game in midfield but in the next breath felt sorry for Bridcutt as he was ploughing a lone furrow in midfield. All this in one interview. Contradictory nonense.

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20 Mar 2016 09:10:34
Hock did someone mention hock! S e is decent enough but yesterday was baffling at best and sackable at worst, I have been a s e supporter but think their are better managers who we could get such as Pearson and monk, before the who would work for m c posts yes I think they would any manger out of a job would sign for Leeds unless they can do better m c sacks managers but that is good as you get earlier payoff with no reputation dent as that is what m c does. And when someone takes us up they would be a god I even think/ hope Larry might come back. Might as well keep s e till season but get rid the day the season ends. This comes after sobering up from yesterday after few in spoons, black prince and griffin, with day to think about it and sober up I think s e has probably run his course although not completely disgraced himself like most before him.

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20 Mar 2016 09:51:57
I only got to see the highlights but is it me or was Bamba having a mare give away pen, and then out fought on all the goals conceived .
I know Bel has got stick this season but he can't mark everyone .

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20 Mar 2016 12:33:44
Very brave dog to watch the highlights. I couldn't face it. Mind you I bet it didn't take long.

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20 Mar 2016 19:26:18
Most of my postings don't seem to pass moderation for some reason, maybe the Ed's don't like the truth here?

Only one person to blame for the loss on saturday after three wins, and that's the person who changed the team?

Why would you do that?

Please don't tell me they were tired, when did they play the last game?

Starting to believe SE stands for self egotistical.

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20 Mar 2016 01:53:51
After being a Leeds United supporter since 1966, why does the last three weeks surprise me. The up and downs torment our club.
And yes I really do believe the curse lives on.

MoT

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