Leeds Banter Archive May 20 2016

 

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20 May 2016 22:39:57
nice little story about my local lot on a leeds website. the down Bermondsey way bit did make me chuckle.

goo.gl/K9anHM

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21 May 2016 09:38:14
Fantastic BW. Fantastic.

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21 May 2016 10:34:53
sorry link didn't work but it was a funny post about millwall neadethals and Bermondsey being 'dingy' which it is not, some crack heads even have matching shoes in Bermondsey.

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{Ed033's Note - Link seems to go to a web site. It is just a shortened link

21 May 2016 10:55:07
oh yeah just clicked and saw. i'm not very technical being a Bermondsey caveman.

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{Ed033's Note - I'm sure all the leeds fans who visit this web site love your posts

21 May 2016 11:26:38
Read it BW and thought of you straight away, how sad is that.

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21 May 2016 13:02:49
cheers ed and very true BIGE, sad thing is i'm not a million miles away from the sad acts both in mind set and location. I do think I was lucky as out of all the South London cavemenI was seclected to be a leeds fan so so it could be worse.

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20 May 2016 20:48:49
I think we should all pile in at the bookies on Evans being our coach next season.
I mean think about it, if we take MC at his word that he wishes he'd never bought us and wants rid asap then what 'half decent' coach would want to work for an employer who doesn't even want to be here?
If I went for a job interview and the boss said I really want you to work for me, oh and by the way the company's for sale because I hate it and if I can get some mug to buy it from me then I'll be off like muck off a shovel! I think I'd decline his offer.
I feel Evans may be the only one daft enough to work for him!

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20 May 2016 21:45:29
sorry have to disagree, I think if se was going to be coach it would be common knowledge by now, I think mc is looking for someone.

in terms of job interview if someone said

take this job get it right be a ledgend, get it wrong get fistfull of money in severence package and your rep will not be hurt as people will blame your sacking on me, you'd be a fool not to take the job

again who will take this job? anyone who hasn't got a better offer waiting around the corner. there must be tonnes of people willing to manage leeds as it is a win win club with nothing to lose by sitting in the dug out.

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20 May 2016 21:53:26
Don't think that would make a difference. A job is a job.

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21 May 2016 02:44:24
Good post BW.

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21 May 2016 08:56:51
of course Aus what else would you expect!

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21 May 2016 11:31:05
Think SE will be here because Cellino had enough of and not going to give fans and media another opportunity to slate him. Think Evans is scouting for players now. He has been seen at a few matches here and abroad. If I thought I was getting sacked I would be in office making phonecalls.

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21 May 2016 21:14:35
Bige he's still employed by MC.
Makes sense to still continue doing your job if looking to be kept on.

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21 May 2016 21:17:13
Sorry bige just re read your post and misunderstood the 1st time!

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23 May 2016 04:39:31
The Evans situation is strange. I could see it from his perspective if he thinks he could be out of a job then why not look at matches and identify targets for future employers. He must be claiming expenses off the club, usually that would warrant the sack from Cellino. Think if Evans is here next season it's because Cellino's targets will have other jobs.

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20 May 2016 20:43:39
we are now paying the price for Cellino due diligence and consequently paying over the odds. Everyone knows he was once bitten so they are now twice shy.

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20 May 2016 21:46:57
this is true but you make it sound like a bad thing, thank god MC did not do due dilligence otherwise there would be no leeds utd right now, certainly not a championship one. Think mc has made us a better buy by making us more stable if nothing else.

at least we are no longer hemeerging money and have some players worth something in the team.

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23 May 2016 04:17:19
Sorry BW but Cellino has not made us a better buy. Any potential buyer will see that if we don't get into the top 6 they may have to give 25% of revenue they took from around 15,000 people, as an absolute no go. The club is not up for sale, Cellino just wants people to feel sorry for him. Which if like yourself and a few others on here believe he's such an outstanding businessman, then he would be making statements about his vision for the forecoming season saying we are going for promotion and he is going to silence the TTGM lot. Everyone else will have a list of potential targets. We have a coach who doesn't know if he will be in a job. Cellino had his target but guess what, some other team offered him more money. Being more stable would mean you have a proper management team in place. We don't. As for DD, it proves what an idiot he is, anyone spending that much would look at all the accounts. If he'd done that then he'd have got the club cheaper. Even if he hadn't turned up GFH would have had to make cuts and stop charging us for non existent services.

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20 May 2016 19:30:59
So if it's true that Villa have been bought out totally, 100% , for 60 million. How much does the make the name of Leeds United and the squad worth, no ground, training ground, parachute payments etc. Cellino has no hope of selling to get his cash back he's going to have to take a hit or improve the value of Leeds United. Any thoughts.

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20 May 2016 20:16:33
Spot on stickey couldn't agree more.
We have no major asset's like you say we have the name the fan base and the history. he needs to buy our church ⛪ back to make us look more desirable to potential buyers or investment.

Lufc4life mot.

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20 May 2016 20:33:44
And a load debt.

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20 May 2016 21:48:01
we say he needs to buy ER back. there is a saying throwing good money after bad, that is what leeds is sadly.

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21 May 2016 02:46:17
Another good post BW
Increase our value = prem
It's the only way.

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21 May 2016 08:57:49
again Aus of course!

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21 May 2016 11:34:01
Will only buy ER back when Leeds can afford it. Think onus should be on buying good players to get us up, then we could afford it.

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20 May 2016 17:03:17
Well now another manager is going elsewhere. For sure they are turning down Cellino and not Leeds United. How far down his list does he need to go before he gets back to the name of Steve Evans. This would be such a public slap in the face for Evans "sorry mate you were only 14th choice but. " that if I was him I would say stuff you job Massimo I am going where I am wanted. That, as things stand would be a sad loss for Leeds.

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20 May 2016 20:09:35
Leodis don't be conned by lazy journalism first they link any manager between jobs regardless of whether Leeds contact them and when he joins a club he has been in talks with. The lazy journo gets a free headline saying Leeds snubbed. I've seen headline today " mass exodus of Leeds players" it's like they just left nothing to do with Leeds United releasing said players. Trouble is we get sucked into believing this carp when they feed it to us daily.

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20 May 2016 21:49:00
agree wex unless it is 100 fact take it as fiction.

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20 May 2016 21:55:07
I wouldn't take there word for itncoz there was probs wasn't offers for them.

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21 May 2016 11:36:01
Seriously doubt if Cellino has approached any of these managers. Its tabloids guessing SR is going and filling columns with bull as usual.

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20 May 2016 15:25:18
So not as quick as we would like
But as I said. Need to know
Not need to know within 20 min of meeting but need to know within a reasonable amount of time
And. I'm begining to think we are all right but we are not all owners and rich so
He gets to keep who he wants and not
And does any one of us think we could really do better. Obviously not pay for any of it but just decision wise. Cause everybody has difference of opinion but only one counts. The man with the mouth AND MONEY.
Please. Any body. Any nationality. Any time. Show me the money. Improve what we got.
., . waiting.

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20 May 2016 18:21:01
We've had the news here Aussie, but because of the time difference you will be able to read it a week on Wednesday. Sorry about that.

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20 May 2016 18:56:14
Ausman

When will we receive the non-gibberish version of your post?

Or perhaps our 7th division Ryman League Conference posters can take some time out to translate.

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20 May 2016 19:01:45
Aus, keep the faith my old mukka. We are Leeds, we are a family. I honestly believe our best chance is with Cellino. If things fall right it could be a perfect relationship. He is passionate, driven and loaded lol. Touched in the head maybe but who amongst us is perfect!

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20 May 2016 21:51:25
george aus is saying

owning leeds is very hard job, yes some manager choice have been bad but it is hard getting a manager right (outside of lesciter and burnley who have done this right this season)

on the money side mc has done very well making the club work as a business as we didn't before.

so could we do better? probably not.

i also agree mc is our best and maybe only chance. if I didn't love leeds i'd want mc to leave to show them real dark days and what leeds should be a crumbling wreck.

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21 May 2016 11:39:43
Fact is it does not matter who we have as manager if we don't win every single game some will be asking for his head.

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20 May 2016 12:04:01
No great surprises in the retained list but I would question the release of some of the youngsters. With not watching any of their games I would be interested to know what any of the informed supporters think. I can only assume that they did not "kick on" as expected for it was not that long ago that some of these were being touted as "the future" and a shoo in for first team action in a year or two.

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20 May 2016 13:42:16
Re youngsters, I have watched them 3-4 times so no expert but I would say generally in these areas the coaches have a better idea as they see them day in day out.

sure they can make mistakes but most of the time they will get it right in terms of are they going to be good enough for Leeds U.

No problem with list, I would put a bid in for Bridcut but that may happen later on, hopefully manager/ player activity will soon come into play and we start improving the squad, lots of scope to do this and can see 7-8 first team squad types coming in which may be too many for the team to handle.

Manager situation needs sorting sooner rather than later now, either sack/ appoint new guy or give Steve the OK but crack on Leeds.

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20 May 2016 18:54:04
No problem with list, good to see mulhern and stokes being kept on, and young purver, denton undecided. Young vann is one for the future so good to see him getting a contract. Mcdaid has puzzled me, came with a big rep but hardly got a game in reserves so hard to assess.

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20 May 2016 21:52:09
gutted ant has gone. I loved him and will now have to shave my wives beard. with him gone seems little point her keeping it.

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20 May 2016 11:12:25
The, no news, scenario seems to underline what a lot of us have been thinking. MC is chasing a new manager but no one wants to work for him at his rate of pay with his track record. He does not have to tell Big Steve until 30 June and as MC knows that he wants the job is cruelly keeping him locked in a darkened room until ready (as plan B, or C, or D. ) Cellino like the spoiled little Latin he is is saying to himself "why should I tell the supporters what is happening? Nobody loves me. They all want me out so nobody can come to my party"
I think he would sell but by declaring as such he makes it a buyers market and everyone (maybe inc Parkin) is offering below market price to test his resolve. He now has a big decision to make. Does he sell and make little or no profit (compared to what he envisioned when he bought in) or does he stick however the realisation is dawning on him that unless he does a Leicester and comes from nowhere with no funds, it will get harder and harder to gain promotion, fighting free spending owners and parachute payments. As with a previous post of mine I would recruit a hundred salesmen, brainwash them and send them out like Jehovas Witnesses to knock on every Billionaires door in, China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia. somebody somewhere must have a bag of money under a desk. Yes some of it may need a little bit of dry cleaning first but hey who was it said the end justifies the means?

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20 May 2016 11:43:58
Spot on about Evans leodis.

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20 May 2016 11:54:42
I know it's not ideal for anyone concerned - but Big Steve has a contract until the end of June, so MC does not have to make a decision until then. If he's looking at better options, I don't see what's wrong with that - probably means SE will end up staying. Just hope some serious player scouting is going on in the background.

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20 May 2016 13:14:38
I agree Speedy but how can you scout when you do not know who the new manager can work with.
BTW the new manager needs to be strong enough to say "my team, keep out". Afraid he won't though as balls are not wanted on this job. It is a pity as, altho it's not transfer season yet, the targets who are worth chasing are already being chased. A little bit of hurry up is called for.

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20 May 2016 18:56:27
Word is evans been at matches here and abroad. Not sure why or who for.

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20 May 2016 22:48:38
Probably as he's on a contract he will just be watching games rather than twiddling his thumbs at TA. If someone else employs him then he may unearth a gem who may come back to haunt us.

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20 May 2016 11:08:35
Parkin is a clever man and is not investing in a charade and has the inside track on Massimo's thoughts' so keep the faith guys I know its hard but unless we've managed to find 2 multi millionaires who are stupid.

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20 May 2016 11:50:35
Yes hopefully Parkin has his ear. Definitely need someone that talks sense to him, and that he will listen to.

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20 May 2016 11:58:59
Sorry Wexy Lufc needs multi Billionaires who are, excessively, stupid (but with kind hearts and a love for all things Leeds)

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20 May 2016 10:57:15
Well guys 10 players released including wooten and mirco, and all 3 loanees gone back to their clubs Bridcutt, adeyemi and Carayol! What's your thoughts people? Think we should have tried to keep Bridcutt but probably too much wages!

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20 May 2016 12:47:07
We should be aiming to retain Bridcutt and Adeyemi.

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20 May 2016 18:58:54
Should try to get bridcutt def.

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20 May 2016 10:01:08
So the meeting has come and gone. Surely there should be an official statement from the club. Who is going to be coach/ manager next season? Are we going to compete with the top clubs for the top players? Where and when is pre-season? Players, fans and Steve Evans deserve answers and if you want to sell season tickets Massimo then you need to tell us of your plans. Failure to tell us today will be proof that you hold everyone associated with the the club with utter contempt. Tell us today for your own sake and for the sake of those of us on this site who will be accused of being negative for telling others what is blindingly obvious.

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20 May 2016 10:59:25
Think he needs 24 hrs but he needs to tell us by tomorrow.

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20 May 2016 11:08:02
no arguments here deda, I agree. negitive for a reason is normal and I can see where you are coming from.

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20 May 2016 13:21:19
How long can this farce go on (rhetorical, don't answer that! ) .
Easy, identity you targets. Must be clearly better than what you have. Nail them down. Get a yes or no. Then decide. It's not rocket science. If he runs all his companies like this then he won't be a billionare for too much longer.

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20 May 2016 10:30:51
well this don't look good, club not making descions or moving forward at imporant time.

not sure if mc is looking for a better manager and keeping SE in toe just in case he can't find someone beter which would make sense. however things need to move forward soon.

my main worry would be MC has had enough, if he is planning on selling and can no longer care less I think dark days are ahead and we will see how good mc was for club.

only thing that makes me think this ain't case is parkins involvement would a smart local man invest if club was going down the karzie?

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20 May 2016 10:59:04
Bermondsey just because no announcement don't mean decisions have not been made I am sure they were .

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20 May 2016 11:00:09
BW, put yourself in Cellino's shoes. Iput a lot of blame on Time To Go. I mean, did you get a ballot paper? I didn't vote for a handful of limelight seeking individuals to speak for me. Do they really think their actions will make Cellino do their bidding? He will just be more bloody minded, he is volatile at the best of times. Should he wish he could asset strip and throw us to the wolves, he has no obligation to leave the club in a better state than he found it. Push him too far and this is a very real possibility, so it seems he is in sulk mood and will do what he wants when he wants and the attitude will be if you don't like it, put your money where your mouth is. I fear the very people who claim to be acting in the interest of supporters and club may be the catalyst for very bad times.

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20 May 2016 11:40:03
no I agree vid, if I was mc I would do my upmost to ruin the club, assest strip and give it to GFH. if mc leaves and time tto go lot get theire way we will see how good mc was. I hope I am wrong but got a bit of a bad feeling. it would not make me anti mc and I understand where he is coming from but think it is not good for leeds.

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20 May 2016 11:55:32
Vid

People have reacted to Cellino's antics not the other way around. I stated yesterday that I believe that most fans are not with TTGM, not because they do not agree with them, but because they do not want to upset a loose cannon like Cellino. Which seems to be what you are arguing here.

There are a lot of fans who are waiting to see what direction we are heading before purchasing season tickets. A supposedly brilliant businessman would be talking to the media at the earliest opportunity, telling the world we are going for promotion and outlining his plans, thus selling more seasons tickets and generating more revenue.

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20 May 2016 11:56:03
Not sure what assets you think he is going to strip? There is a lot of feelings about what MC may or may not do, but in the years he has had to date he has reneged on every promise and delivered nothing on the pitch.

Pre-season is not far away and there is nothing in sight to get anyone excited or believing that next season will be any better. Mind you, apart from the lies MC has told in the past, is it not the same story as every other pre-season under his tenure?

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20 May 2016 12:15:48
Deda, it has been a merry go round of action and reaction since he walked into our club and Reality, the assets are our best young players. We are not dealing with a normal situation here, Cellino has more than enough money to live out his days, this was a dream of his, but being eccentric and probably touched with autism, if it all turns into a nightmare he would probably walk away with vengeance. But valid points siblings, solidarity and beer.

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20 May 2016 13:54:34
reality as you name you need to see all angles,

he has stopped religation, he has stopped aministaion these are two big things that we were heading towards. If you think this is not deleievring then I don't know what is.

He took a sinking ship and has made it float, he took a journeyman sqaud and improved it (maybe only slightly but still) , he took a club that sold young players and didn't reinvest and turned that around 180.

he has done a lot of good and that is the reality of it.

a lot of people have not joined the TTGM as they see the bigger picture and I would suggest have a more balanaced view.

however some of the things he has done are not defendable but they what some leeds fans have done to him is worse. they have shown no gratitude for what the man has done (again read the above)

this all said for the good of leeds I do hope a descion is made soon, however I do not think it has to be public behind closed doors is fine as long as the club has a plan and is moving forward even moving slowly forward.

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20 May 2016 08:44:25
Ffs Massimo has had his board meeting and now f**ked off abroad without making any statement regarding the trivial matter of who will be head coach next season. All the time players agents will be touting our better players left right and centre. Can't see any of them agreeing to extend their contracts at this rate. What a feckin shambles. Sorry wex and BM, but it's hard to support Cellino on this one.

MM.

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20 May 2016 09:17:07
Agree mm. Maybe he will deliver news from afar but needs sorting. Or maybe he has told the people and players what the score is!

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20 May 2016 09:39:50
I have to agree MM
starting to p.s me off. No direction. No plan
Shambolic.

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20 May 2016 09:57:08
agree there is no defending on this on, unless he is courting a manager or buyer of high caliber. He needs to sort it quick and needs to deliver quickly this is not good enough.

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20 May 2016 10:20:35
Thing is guys, that it is his train set and he plays with it as he wants, and although the club has many thousands of devout fans he does not have to tell us squat. we have to hope that as Aus says the people who are working for him know the strategy are quietly working away at it.
We will find out only by watching and speculating as we always have, let's face it we only find out what is public or what he or the club want us to.

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20 May 2016 10:37:48
Agree, but think the Cellino out brigade have peed him off so much he's not feeling he needs to connect with the fans at the moment. I wonder if anyone has actually told him that they are only a small minority - just basically Georgie and Survivor and their love children.

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20 May 2016 10:49:30
Agree with Ox and Speedy, think decisions have been made and those involved know what they are. At the moment he shares no affinity with fans. All he sees are out campaigns. They are the vociferous ones. Can only hope decisions are good for leeds. Personally think evans will be here next season in some capacity.

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