Leeds Banter Archive October 20 2020

 

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20 Oct 2020 19:47:12
Two goals for Edmundson tonight in 7 minutes for Aberdeen😊.

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20 Oct 2020 23:11:51
Pleased for him.

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21 Oct 2020 06:10:21
Good lad Edmundson.

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20 Oct 2020 19:42:22
Played well very unfortunate to lose and to a goal like that but that's football move on to villa and let's hope we sort that final third passing out that's what let's team down wolves goal came from a slack pass on edge of there box MOT KOKE AND PASCAL PLAYED VERY WELL UNLUCKY.

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20 Oct 2020 18:21:01
Phillips out for 6 weeks with shoulder injury (think he got run over by a fast moving tortoise)

be interesting to see how we line up and play now. I hope stuijk comes in and plays as well as I think he can. really high hopes for stuijk in that Dm position.

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20 Oct 2020 19:11:11
Llorente, KP, Cooper all out since playing internationals

Hopefully Llorente and Cooper back soon

Will we ever see Forshaw play for Leeds again?

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20 Oct 2020 19:53:29
I didn't mind foresaw. liked him in fact but can't see him coming back if honest.

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20 Oct 2020 20:51:50
Think foreshaw still coming back from his operation. Struijk in for KP i think but its the back 4 where we are light now.

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21 Oct 2020 07:51:11
If Coops is still injured, Pascal will stay at Cb, as I can’t see Cresswell getting a call up just yet. Other option would be Bill at Cb, with Pasc going DM, and Shacks taking RB. So many different options! Glad I don’t have to make the decisions Mb does! 🤪.

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20 Oct 2020 13:35:26
How about, next game (or next but one) line up of
Meslier
dallas, Llorente, Koch, Ayling
Philips
Raphina, Pablo, Klich, Poveda
Rodrigo

With Pablo being nursed thro a season.

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20 Oct 2020 14:24:48
Definitely the central defensive pairing of Koch and Llorente

And definitely Pablo.

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20 Oct 2020 14:50:55
unbelievable how irreplaceable pablo is right now. best bit of business we've done in years signing him, and resigning him over and over. nobody changes a game and changes momentum so fast like he does, wolves sat off because they knew exactly what he can do, and you feel with better attacking players he'll only have more options.

matter of time before llorente gets a start you'd think, but i see it being cooper not koch that makes way, another great signing it seems. certainly don't feel like ben white would have done any better than koch and therefore i'd say koch is just as good if not better.

meslier another great signing, hats off to victor.

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20 Oct 2020 17:30:04
I must admit I was unsure of Meslier at first but he really has come on bundles. His positioning his excellent which obviously helps when it comes to shot stopping. What did he cost 5 mill?!

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21 Oct 2020 06:12:12
yes 5m Cork.

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20 Oct 2020 13:03:35
Mediocre ex Villa player Gabby Ablonghor spouting off on social media today that ' LEEDS ARE A MYTH and other ruder even more provocative stuff about Bielsa.

God how I utterly detest that vile club and most of those associated with it.

Can't wait for Friday hopefully the lads will respond with a win and make Gabby wince.

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20 Oct 2020 15:56:59
I don't get why Villa fans (including Gobby) are so salty when it comes to Leeds. They are doing well but instead of enjoying the moment them seem fixated on us. Something in the water maybe?

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20 Oct 2020 17:30:57
Yes Notts. Piss!

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20 Oct 2020 17:35:15
Yes Notts well definitely the Leeds Villa game in 2019 got Vile fans, Smith and Terry worked up

plus in the same season they were salty about Leeds coming back to win 3 - 2 at Vile Park.

But there is something more than this to it.

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20 Oct 2020 17:36:43
Everyone is obsessed with Leeds the cream team, the history, fan base and just the name Leeds United gets everybody talking.

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20 Oct 2020 19:49:23
Oh for a win on Friday to shut the Vile big heads up.

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20 Oct 2020 12:53:36
It's an old problem. We play very attractive football and can do very well against teams that are prepared to play an open game. However where teams have built any success on be solid and developing play from having a strong defensive formation we struggle. We eventually came away with the title with some ease last year but that was on the back of other teams falling away and us scraping wins in very hard fought games eg Barnsley and Swansea. Last night we played well up to a point and stats don't show everything. We had shots but I don't think their keeper had a shot to save. So with less possession Wolves had the ball in the back of the net twice and Meslier pulled off a couple of good saves. We really never looked liked scoring. That is Bielsa's next challenge. Getting more shots on target with some prospect of scoring and keeping our defence a little more solid. Remember Meslier saved us against Sheffield and Fulham knocked in three and could have come away with an unlikely draw.

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20 Oct 2020 13:08:59
always said that stats can be good upto a point but can also be really misleading. When teams sit back we struggle. Last night it was a quality wolves team but we have also had same problems with Ipswich, wigan, luton etc

what annoys me is our lack of danger from set plays in tight games they can make a difference and we are useless at them.

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20 Oct 2020 13:14:04
Yep. Agree all the above.
It’s simple. Score more of the many chances. Our finishing woeful last night and as I said their keeper never made a save.
Wolves tactics were spot on. They knew they couldn’t match us first 30 min so just dug in.
We ran out of steam and ideas. From what should have been comfy 3 or 4 goal win in first half could have been 0-2 or 3 second half.

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20 Oct 2020 13:36:03
im not sure our finishing was woeful I just think we failed to create much half decent. I don't remember anyone missing a sitter. just when teams sit back we never have a plan b. age old for us under belisa. Glad I don't think many teams will sit back because in this league most will score past us.

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20 Oct 2020 13:39:39
Agree Berm that Bielsa' s Leeds teams really need to improve considerably on scoring from corners, free kicks Very infuriating how inept we appear at them.

It should be such a fruitful method of scoring that Revie, Wilko and even OLeary Leeds teams were masters of.

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21 Oct 2020 06:14:33
could it be that the person taking the corners and free kicks needs to be changed?

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21 Oct 2020 09:21:29
Yes Alf, KP takes the corners and he is usually inept at taking a good corner. give the job to Pablo or even Harrison.

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20 Oct 2020 10:56:49
On the whole the team played well enough to deserve a draw. Am looking forward to Koch settling in, with more confidence to show what he can do with long forward balls. A part of his game that was evident previously but now suppressed by short balls to one of the other back four.
It will now be interesting how the line-up settles down. For me the calls of Poveda/ Raphina on the wings seem hard to deny, also, who is the striker going forward Bamford or Rodrigo or further, who is the creative AM?
Whatever the answers are I feel that recruitment has been successfull and we now have a squad there who can certainly gain the longed for 40 points but more than that a top half finish.

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20 Oct 2020 11:21:39
I personally thought that Koch's distribution was good last night with plenty of mid range passes finding their mark to wing backs and centre midfielders. Wolves are a more "street wise" team than us at the moment and their system stifled our fluid style. We had plenty of possession and opportunity to deliver the ball from the wings but we crossed hopeful balls into the box rather than picking out players, which made it easier for their rigid back three to contend with. The Bamford discussion is interesting because I personally felt that the movement of Rodrigo as the number 9 could have caused more problems for Wolves centre backs than the physicality of Bamford. Horses for courses as Bamford's style will be an asset against other opponents.

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20 Oct 2020 13:34:33
Mistake not to begin the fixture with Pablo. Wolves are a second half side and a poor first half is their pattern so decision not to start with Pablo mystifying.

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20 Oct 2020 14:29:13
Thoroughly agree George .

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21 Oct 2020 06:15:14
probably guarding against further injury George.

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20 Oct 2020 10:13:31
Having had the night to sleep on my disappointment at the score line , I feel that in a way that result and performance puts our prospects and expectations for the season into more realistic perspective, which is no bad thing in some ways . May be it's my nature but I will spend most of this season looking down rather than up and I will take the six point gap after five games from the dross in the relegation zone .

I thought we were excellent in the first half, won every duel and bombed forward without creating any real clear cut chances . We obviously lost control after the break and thought Bielsa could have made some changes a little earlier . Nonetheless, there were positives.

We never looked particularly vulnerable to their incisive counter attacking play other than the very unfortunate goal and this despite committing lots of players forward . Even with their goal on the break I counted 8 players had got back by the time Jimenez got his shot away . Koch was supreme and Meslier looked like only a wicked deflection would beat him on the night .

Our old championship failings were evident in just not being clinical enough in the final third . But for once Bamford had no clear cut chances to miss, although you could perhaps have wanted more from him and certainly Rodrigo in the build up play . I also thought other than the first 15 minutes from Costa, our wingers were not threatening enough .

As Baz has said we may well rue not signing a potent finisher, which is why I was unconvinced by the choice of Rodrigo in the window . However, I'm not sure a potent finisher would have made the difference last night as we never created a clear cut chance against admittedly a supremely marshalled defence . I would be tempted to start Pablo for Rodrigo on Friday but suspect MB will keep the same team barring injuries .

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20 Oct 2020 10:27:40
agree 100% mate great post nd my thoughts exactly.

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20 Oct 2020 10:54:35
Well said RHC.

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20 Oct 2020 19:58:35
Agree missing a out right striker, bam bam has been good a runs his heart out but we need a sniffer cost us last night still it is what it is can’t win them all.

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20 Oct 2020 10:11:00
Always going to be a hard game with the way wolves play. First goal was so important.
Never mind lads we played decent and I have every confidence we'll get even better and pick up three points Friday.

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20 Oct 2020 10:25:06
I think that’s it in a nutshell.
If we get the first goal it will cause our opponents to be more attack minded leaving us more space.
If they park the bus or grab the first goal then generally we struggle.
We have to make our chance count. There were three that really were down to poor finishing in the first half and that’s why we lost. Not unlucky. Just failed to take our chances to win the gave when they appeared.

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20 Oct 2020 09:30:40
My goal for this year was always to stay up. Don't get carried away with the hype about how we play and talk of Europe or even top ten. it's going to be all about learning and developing in the premiership. Let's remember how long it took us to get back here and how difficult is was to get out of the Championship and even league One!
Wolves are a good example of a team that has settled back into prem life well, spent money but found a style of play that works. I think that premiership experience showed last night but only just.

Have faith guys, We had to play Struick again last night and he looked solid, who would have thought that by this stage he would have played 2 prem games. Meslier made two great stops, Koch growing with each game and with no settled partner, Rodrigo settling in and the new Brazilian looks like he might be quite scary. Pablo back and made a difference in a shorter spell. The more time Bielsa has with these guys the better we will get.

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20 Oct 2020 20:00:53
Spanishleeds 100 % agree stay up and build one for the future.

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20 Oct 2020 09:17:51
lots of negativity on here lads. come on sort it out I am meant to be the negative one. it doesn't work if you all join in with me!

read a lot of natural goalscorer comments on here. leeds fans need to realise it will not happen. never. the next time we get a natural number 9 is when belisa leaves the club. he doesn't like them.

in terms of natural number 9's in our history the best three (for goalscoring) have been
1.clarke
2. champman
3. nekitia

Nikita is a natural goalscorer and just took over shearers record for England. he is that good but bubs didn't play him, it didn't fit his style. So please let's drop hopes and moans about it (again I am allow to bang on I expect better from you lot) even if sniffer Clarke was at leeds bubs wouldn't play him

also I think it was harsh on Bamford he was feeding on scraps last night even arguo wouldn't of scored.

trouble with leeds is belisa's style. he has one way of play. if teams sit back and defend we will have all the ball, create little and get hit at the back. It is very simple to play against and lots of championship teams did it which annoyed the hell out of me

now for the good news, not many prem teams play like wolves, maybe West Ham and burnley might play in a hard way against us but the rest will play football and that suits us which is a good thing

I have said before belisa has many great aspects but he also has flaws and like a marriage we have to accept them and for me belisa's style is far better suited to the prem than the championship so now we are out of that league don't expect too many games like last night, unless we get wigan in the cup

it was one game lads against a good team who sit back and play in a way that will always hurt leeds. onwards and upwards.

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20 oct 2020 08:55:32
for sale
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barely used only few weeks old, seemed a brilliant idea at the time, and yet for some unfathomable reason, hardly anyone wishes to partake?

only rose tinted wearing optimistic people who can laugh at themselves, need apply thanks.

thanks for viewing, please leave positive feedback for our magnificent leeds team finding their way in the strongest division in the world.

#tongue firmly in cheek just a bit of fun.

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20 Oct 2020 10:30:34
I can't have the hot tub due to my chronic negativity but if ok I would like to come round and take a p"ss in said hot tub before the lucky buyer takes it away

free of charge of course I don't expect a fee for my piddle. I am happy to do as a favour, because i'm proper nice like that.

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20 Oct 2020 08:08:16
Reading a few posts this morning, and tadge confused, thought we played well, deserved a draw.

Yes strikers were quiet, but Wolves are very well organised team, prematch Carragher said Wolves will soak up the pressure and counter. Look at there back 3, young lad MOTM, Coady probably most inform CD in league, Boly is no donkey.

So even thou MAYBE it's a point dropped, Wolves are are good team,
Was amused reading the 'win tonight will be 3rd comments', the days of just turning up and winning are over gents, sorry, prem is hard league, but we have enough
Koch already looks quality, Rodders getting up to match fitness
MOT.

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20 Oct 2020 10:31:02
agree mate 100%.

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21 Oct 2020 10:43:19
Wait a moment we are well organised team as well, but need a striker and that is it, MB said so him self but in a different way ( we played well First half but didn’t the chances we had) So give it a rest and pull your neck in.

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Review Of The Day 19th October 2020

20 Oct 2020 07:39:17
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th October 2020

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20 Oct 2020 06:01:09
This Wolves match has resurfaced my fears for Leeds Achilles heel having incredulously NOT signed / possessing proven prolific natural goakscorer (s) .

It should have been. the major PRIORITY transfer requirement in the summer window.

One player who is reasonably proficient in scoring as well as excelling in creating is Pablo.

Pablo 💜 must START matches ( even if it is for just the first 60 to 70 minutes) it is imperative that this Leeds team scores the first goal preferably in the first half.

AS this Leeds team will get very few points after conceding the first goal.

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20 Oct 2020 08:31:44
And the negativity starts.

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20 Oct 2020 09:21:58
I agree BV about Pablo but fear that half a yard will mean Pablo is not a force in the prem

last year in the championship Pablos skill meant he scored a lot of great goals but in the prem he will not get that time. look at last night Pablo did what Pablo does created a chance and got shot away, last season that goes in, this season it got closed down and blocked and went over the bar

I love Pablo I really do, but I fear he is not the answer in the prem at 35. good news I think costa, Poveda, Rodrigo, Bamford and raophinia are

Harrison had a poor game last night but previously he had also been playing well. I think it was more a bad night at the office with wolves sitting back, a belisa team will never play well against a team who sits back. I think we will be ok no need to panic and bring in big sam just yet.

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20 Oct 2020 11:01:55
I agree Bermo that Harrison was not at his best but he still put in some fabulous crosses. He reminds me of Beckham in that respect.,

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20 Oct 2020 13:10:18
true cork Harrison hit one cross in particular that was begging to be put away. I was not sure about Harrison at all but he has had a good season so far just last night was bit below recent performances but that happens.

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20 Oct 2020 18:14:12
Bloody hell bermo it’s becoming a habit if yours admitting when you’re wrong. Next you be saying Phillip is the new Hoddle!

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20 Oct 2020 05:08:11
Only saw the second half yesterday but not a great performance. Apparently the old achillies heel of not converting chances is back but some of the lads again looking out of their depth from what I saw. Some really hard fixtures out of the way now but more to come. On on on!

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20 Oct 2020 05:54:57
That’s the problem Alf. In the championship a team would have to play a blinder or us badly to get a win. In the prem pretty much every team cam beat us unless we play well or they badly. The roles are reversed. There are no easy games in the prem. Ok we manage to get a point of city and got two wins off the other two. But we still lack a lot. We looked better balanced when Pablo came on in second but he can’t last 90 min now.
I suppose at the end of the day you can say we were unlucky and deserved minimum a draw but. That’s points lost we should have got and that’s what matters. Points not lucky or unlucky.

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20 Oct 2020 06:09:03
They are all hard fixtures Alf . very few if any easy games.

It is vital that deserved draws do not instead become undeserved defeats. #points accumulation

Sooneer Lorente is able to start in defence as a central defensive partnership with Koch tne better it will be for Leeds.

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20 Oct 2020 07:46:51
You’re view will be a little different when you get to see the first half Alf. The difference in the second half is that they improved their ability to stifle our play, and upped their game a bit. Unlucky for us deflection, otherwise it’ had nils all over it.

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20 Oct 2020 09:23:11
I agree with bright, first half was very good display

not many teams play like wolves, I think we will be ok and still be top half team this year.

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20 Oct 2020 01:58:36
Same problems as last year. Dominate first half. Should of had 3 with bam costa and Rodrigo. Commentator said we had second most chance in first half to any team other than chelsea. Yet we scored none.
We play good football. Pass the ball well but drop points cause lack of killer instinct. Did there keeper make a save?
Ours made 2 good ones.
Overall thought Rodrigo played well and costa and struik and Koch. He will be next captain I reckon. It's was good performance but we can play well and be admired by others all season. Don't mean rubbish if we miss so many chances. Deserved at least a point but got none.
Phillips poor tonight.
Let's hope we can bounce back at villa.

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20 Oct 2020 06:02:47
Agreed Notts playing good football means nothing if you don't score.

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20 Oct 2020 06:37:19
Agreed Ausman rather too.

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19 Oct 2020 23:48:56
Unlucky to lose with that goal, but didn't deserve the win, a draw would have been fair. Needed to score with that early pressure, could have had a penalty as well. Surprised their player wasn't sent off for kicking Koch in the balls! Seen enough to think we will be ok this season. Hope we can get something against Vilea.

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20 Oct 2020 06:11:19
We simply must not lose at Villa.

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20 Oct 2020 07:48:05
We owe villa. Our first chance to get one back at those sh1ts Smith and Terry. we’ll tear them a new one!

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19 Oct 2020 23:40:56
I always post win or lose. For those that said Wolves couldn't have scored two or three. One goal they scored, Good save by Meslier before half time and what would have been an excellent goal ruled offside by millimetres (it would have counted in the championship - no assistant ref would have spotted it) . Jimenez could have scored as well. We didn't create much. As I said we are very entertaining but we are not clinical enough in front of goal. We've started very well but it's maintaining it that will be difficult. A lot of premiership teams will be solid and if we don't score enough and can't keep a clean sheet (which we won't do very often) we will lose more than we draw. Just a fact of life. Nothing to do with being positive or negative. Spelt it out before the game.

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20 Oct 2020 06:19:37
Agree that Wolves potentially could have scored 3 goals but they could equally have not scored at all last night but for that fortunate soft deflected goal.

You stated the Wolves deserved to win ; don't agree ; neither team deserved to win; a draw would have been fair.

Obviously agree with your point that we are not anywhere near clinical enough in front of goal and that without keeping clean sheets defeats rather than draws will be the outcome like today.

# a tad concerned after this performance.

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21 Oct 2020 17:54:18
Hesslian, thank goddess for a great post Keep all those who moan about Fans being negative say like it is. Boot boys on here don’t like it.

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