Leeds Banter Archive April 21 2015

21 Apr 2015 21:53:58
Lot of people on this site say foreign players will not get us to premiership and a foereign manager will not do us any good. So if you had both you would not stand a chance on that basis. We need to tell Watford and Middlesborough they have got it all wrong

21 Apr 2015 22:52:52
and once we get to prem it will be even worse. ask city and chealsea they have it wrong as well

22 Apr 2015 15:12:20
Guys I agree, it is not about the fact you are foreign it is about having a squad of players (British+Foreign) who are managed well, have a style/way of playing they believe in/understand (with a plan B/C if not working), playing people in positions they understand.

Also have a professional set up in terms of supporting the football side i.e maybe a Social media marketing manager who can keep the fans informed etc, a leader who provides a clear strategy to the fans (MC can still put his opinions in but need a none mad bloke as well to balance things).

That my friends is it, we don't have to have the best players, we don't have to have the best manager, but if we get a team approach no reason why we can't do well if MC puts in a reasonable amount of money to get the 2-3 quality players we need

22 Apr 2015 16:44:46
Totally agree DG its teamwork every one working together for the good of Leeds United, something we have not had for years so let's give everyone a chance, we have been let down by lack of information, but blame Cellino for it, nonsense. Does anyone really think that he would not have been in the papers the next day explaining why Thommo was suspended, why six players were injured, of course he would but he could not. He left people in charge to run the club when he was away, think he may be having a word with them. Leeds used to have the mentality of its us against the world, now its us against whoever owns us

22 Apr 2015 19:55:28
Teamwork and quality.

21 Apr 2015 19:43:22
Thanks guys its opened some eyes and as I said its not too realistic,
Other options?
do we replace redders?
Big Sam an option or maybe Mark warburton he's free. Or take a punt on Karl Robinson from mk dons

21 Apr 2015 20:54:48
Warburton won't touch us he dnt like european style coaching methods that's why he's leaving brentford helikes being manager nt just a coach

21 Apr 2015 21:53:05
big sam would be amazing but he is at west ham and doing good job don't think he will get boot and don't think he will leave them for us. He is my favorite maanger love him

22 Apr 2015 08:26:41
get Jimmy floyd in from burton Albion got thin up to league 1

22 Apr 2015 21:00:30
met jimmy the other week in dartford, lovely bloke laiughed as he thought I would be chealsea fan not leeds but then said how he loved the club and its fans not a bad shout I would support that move

21 Apr 2015 19:16:19
Umbrella man you are a good liar. Check out interview in YEP.

21 Apr 2015 11:52:07
On tv BBC match of the day regarding Jergen Klopp it was said while talking about west ham that he would prefer a sleeping giant to manage and do what he did at dortmund and that was to make them into a winning team.
Worth a shout but wages may be a massive stumbling block for us.
Reddfern being kaet on as assistant/acadamy boss.
Any comments welcome

21 Apr 2015 14:14:21
Great shout, but if MC is still in charge there is no way Klopp is going to sign a weekly rolling contract on 5000 a month (pro-rata)

21 Apr 2015 14:46:23
come on, are you that daft?

he would never manage us but talking of West Ham, Big Sam might be available in summer and has experience of promotion from Championship

21 Apr 2015 14:55:43
youve got to be joking

21 Apr 2015 17:40:41
Yes come on, no way JK would come up north to a championship club, ha ha made me smile mind that someone would think he would. He won't go to West Ham either.

21 Apr 2015 17:42:52
Dream on!!

21 Apr 2015 10:41:28
NOT A RUMOR BUT HOW SCANDALOUS!

Leeds United charging £32 a ticket to watch last home game of season where against a very poor Rotherham side with both teams probably having nothing to play for.

Similarly not far away Huddersfield take on Blackburn in a pointless end of season game and are charging £5 a ticket.

Anyone else think this really takes the biscuit especially how bad Leeds are playing. I have been to last 5/6 home games and was planning on attending the game but after Cardiff game I couldn't let myself pay that to watch them at the moment.

21 Apr 2015 12:21:25
Cashing in as much as they can this season.

21 Apr 2015 14:14:57
I was at the Cardiff game with my mate,after the debacle had come to it's end we both agreed that anyone who had stayed to the finish should receive free tickets for the last game as an apology.

21 Apr 2015 14:45:12
I just feel they could of done something like what Huddersfield have and pack the stadium out, increase revenue earnt on food and drinks as well as extra programme sales and just give something back to the fans for what has been a roller coaster season.

21 Apr 2015 19:16:33
That sounds like a good idea, which is why it won't happen. When was the last time anyone in charge of things had a good idea?

21 Apr 2015 19:36:46
It's the final slap in the face for the fans, I said after the Norwich game that I wasn't going back until next season and I am sticking to it, the last 3 home games have been enough to put even the most loyal of supporters off,
Just want the season to end and regroup, only hope that Cellino has learnt that the foreign brigade can't cut it in the championship, as Cellino,s sacking record goes Redfearn won't be head coach either.

21 Apr 2015 09:41:48
Lots of symapathy for Redfearn all over the press and ex players giving their views but let's look at it from Cellinos point of view. He bought us with the hope of getting us to th premier league. He took on a lot more debt than he imagined and sorted it. We needed new players and he got 18 new players for us so Redfearn would have a squad to work with. Has he worked with the full squad, no.Bianchi, Sloth, Doukara, all players who everyone said played well initially have been ignored. Fabro, Montenegro who have impressed in reserves have been ignored. Cellino gets banned and the place falls apart while he is away, and Redfearn should take some responsibility for this. He makes it sound like everything happens without him knowing anything about it, did his friend Thomppson not tell him about his feelings and did he not give him any advice, No to either of these shows Redfearn had no respect from this man. Lack of professionalism on both of them.
Positive thing for Redfearn is we are safe in the league. But is this thanks to him or luck. If we had lost the games we should have lost, Ipswich, Middlesborough, Bournemouth we would be down there with Wigan and Millwall. So I am thinking more luck than judgement. Another plus is Cook and some of the youth coming through, but they would have been given their chance anyway by any decent manager, maybe not as quick or used as often. Are playing any better, we play better football but we still are not a threatening team, lack passion and a cutting edge. This month has shown how good we really are.
Has Cellino slagged anyone off, no. Will he have been watching and assessing what he needs to do when he gets back, yes. His first statement was to commit to buying four more players and sorting out who stays and who goes. Players like Adryan who was valued at 2 million who he was willing to purchase has been ignored? Everyone who has seen him play agree he has undoubted talent except Redfearn who would rather push other young untried players through before him.
So Cellino a guy lumbered with GFH as partners getting slagged off by ex players and fans is still willing to invest in the team to take us forward. If he decides to bring in a new coach, a new board, a new scout it will be because he thinks it is best for the club. So personally I am 100 per cent behind him because he has every right to walk away with all the bad press but luckily he is what he said he is a mad f###. mot

21 Apr 2015 11:58:19
Spot on BIGE! Unfortunately we are in the minority for now! Why? God knows?

21 Apr 2015 12:20:38
Flipping this the other way, don't you think MC, while away is manipulating things.

agreed that he sorted the finance out and brought in players. But he has always wanted full control of every aspect of the club and after a while most fans took a shine to him. But now, all I can see him saying is "look how the club is doing without me there".

Yes Redders, probably had a bit of luck but every manager and team does, but in his first spell he galvanised the squad and got 10 points from 15 (I think), in his second spell results started going our way when he had support from an assistant. Take away that support and help and results start dropping. And with regards to selection, we can only play 11 players at any one time. Yes maybe the attack needed more attention and variety, but the defence has kept us in games and knuckled down when needed and the midfield has developed further with Cook, Mowatt, Byram and Murphy all impressing.

We are safe and MC knows it, now he is manipulating everything so he can look like the saviour again for next season and at the same time bring down running costs over the summer.

A new coach will be brought in, English players will be sold and another 18 players will be brought in. We will start slowly, the coach will get sacked and then we are stuffed again. then on to 16/15 (and probably another tax evasion court case)

21 Apr 2015 15:14:27
I agree with you BIGE. 100% behind MC. Spot On

21 Apr 2015 19:00:45
Sorry ds can not agree. Defence is not solid Wooton is not a full back and offers little to Byram going forward, Berardi or Coyle should be there, or even Byram. Berardi is not a left back, Taylor is. Bamba is solid but lacks a bit of pace, Cooper can be naive at times and Berlusci is Berlusci. Midfield have, apart from Cook have no bite. Thay pass it around well but lack a final ball. Austin typifies this, last game 86 touches no chances created and no crosses, yes a lot of work rate and harassing and running,teams chasing promotion need more than that. Whatever striker we play will not score loads of goals unless he gets the ball in the right areas.

21 Apr 2015 21:49:52
Don't think d.s said the defence is solid he just said they knuckled down n kept us in some games which they have

21 Apr 2015 22:24:54
It's all well and good saying that Adryan is a good player and has talent but what did he actually bring when he was playing for us? He did a couple of fancy tricks and very little else, whereas someone like Doukara who got assists and goals is never called for by the fans.

Also what you need to remember here is that Cellino has been proved to be a liar. Said he was going to spend the McCormack money on buying ER and hasn't bothered. He said he had wiped the club of debt and now it's been revealed that the club is still in a ton of debt.

I really wanted to like MC but it's obvious to anyone but those clinging to any hope of him being decent that he's earned his reputation as a con artist and a crook.

{Ed003's Note - *allegedly.}

21 apr 2015 09:03:16
with mc saying wait till next year is he now trying to keep the peace and keep us the fans happy for all this crap that's gone on . the truth would be nice for a change

21 Apr 2015 04:18:47
Top article in the Telegraph.

21 Apr 2015 09:09:12
Just read it George. Very interesting. We need people like Redfern and Lucy Ward, not a egotistical maniac like Cellino. If Redders goes and Cellino stays as owner all the young talent, I believe, will go elsewhere. i'm not saying Redfern is definitely the right man for the job, but believe he should be given the chance to build his OWN team.

21 Apr 2015 09:11:25
Just noticed George, you get up bloody early. What, are all the problems at ER keeping yoy awake?!

21 Apr 2015 09:42:36
First class article.
I'm struggling to find any enthusiasm to go to ER again whilst Cellino is at the helm. He will kill the club!!

21 Apr 2015 10:11:31
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Not online.

21 Apr 2015 12:29:10
The problems ARE keeping me awake. Cellino is taking us for fools. It's all scripted and staged. He already decided to sell.