Leeds Banter Archive January 21 2014

 

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21 Jan 2014 23:07:55
Can I ask whoever is in charge of the League sanctioning the present takeover at Leeds United to either admit to hating Leeds and thereby delaying the takeover needlessly, or stating the reasons why it is being delayed (if any) or just come clean and state it's a done deal as far as they are concerned?

In the meanwhile, can we all just believe that it IS the league holding this up (as they did with GFH) and not start launching conspiracy theories that do nobody any good.

We KNOW the League move the goal posts and invent 15 point penalties that never existed if we break rules that don't exist, so let's point the finger where it deserves to be?

Leeds4alongtime

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Probably Bates side kick Shaun Harvey.

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21 Jan 2014 21:55:25
Having a bit of a look around and some players who are ooc in the summer that I wouldn't mind us going for, if still available:
Max Clayton
Franck Moussa
Tommy Rowe (not really convinced but Mac likes him, so he'll probably join)
Keiren Westwood
Billy Jones
Anthony Pilkington
Marc Albrighton
Zoltan Gera

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Wouldn't mind any of them apart from Westwood. He seems utterly useless to me

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Haha you think westwood is useless put it this way I would take him over kenny anyday least he can actually comand his box

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22 Jan 2014 19:40:49
There are only 2 keepers in our league I'd rather have than our paddy, and they've both played for us, kaspar and the lad at reading. Have a look at who's playing in front of him, bar certain individuals we haven't had a good defence for over a decade. As far as left backs go the last good 1 was dorigo, think he left in 96!

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21 Jan 2014 21:50:18
My father owns 2 racehorses with a local trainer who also trains for marwan koukash, apparently koukash has said he is hoping to move into football ownership with a local club soon, could he be one of the 2 mysterious investors.I wonder

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He wants Oldham or bury pal

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21 Jan 2014 19:40:51
Can anyone tell me, what is going on with this takeover

(1) Its been made public all over the finacial sites that GFH have agrred to sell 75% to a british consortium (Tell us something new this was agrred in November).
(2) For some reason we know only 2 of the 4 so called investors - Why only 2? Surely at this stage of the proceedings the identity should not disclossed either partially or fully
(3) Is this because the 2 know investors do not want to divulge who the remaining investors are? Due to a fans backlash (For instance RedBull and renaming the ground or worse)
(4) GFH seem to say its subject to approval from the English Footballing authorities so what's taking the time? The Charlton takeover did not take that long to get approved

Come on get it F*****G sorted

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Something ain't right that's for sure, us fans aren't stupid gfh, so stop messing us around and be honest and let the best fans in the world know what's going on!

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Yep, there's a strong smell of rubbish around ER even though Bates has gone!

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Just to bring you up to date. Various sources (including tv Radio Leeds) saying FL approval has been given and funds are in place. Unknown issues to be resolved despite the statement made by GFH! Also despite previous statement that just i's to be dotted and t's crossed!

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Well please get on with it and sign some quality game changing players.

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"For some reason we know only 2 of the 4 so called investors - Why only 2? Surely at this stage of the proceedings the identity should not disclosed either partially or fully"

"GFH seem to say its subject to approval from the English Footballing authorities so what's taking the time?"

Don't you realise you've answered your own question?

If the consortium will not reveal who the other two investors are then the League aren't going to approve the deal?

I was hoping this would turn out well for Leeds United but it would appear either the League are playing silly buggers - not beyond them given our and their history and dislike of all things Leeds - or there are serious problems with the remaining two investors.

If Red Bull wanted to rename the ground (like Man City?) and give us more money than we have ever seen before I'd be all for it rather than put up with another 10- 15 years of the crap I have had to put up with!

Who on earth would refuse the kind of money Red Bull have to invest, and prefer to sit and watch rubbish players who can't be arsed to get off theirs?

Sorry, I'm up for anything that puts enough money in my club to make it worthy of the support that WE blindly give it week in week out, year in, year out!

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21 Jan 2014 23:17:23
Don't really disagree any investment and the end to the dross we have been given over the past years - I don't have a problem in watching my football at the Red Bull Arena located on Elland Road but I am not sure I would be so happy going there to watch the Leeds Red Bulls (that's why I said or WORSE) like most I just want something good to happen to my beloved Leeds united

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The reason GFH did that marketing awareness splurge is twofold. Keep fans at bay first. Second to apply subtle pressure to all those involved in the deal. Reason for delay? FL seek a document before they grant approval which is the smoking gun behind Bates' murky ownership which despite him selling STILL TAINTS the club as a company in terms of what is being bought and sold. Ken has done us proper but if it wasn't for him we wouldn't even be in this position! We are still paying price of Ridsdale era and we are stuck. Word is the TO will stretch out of transfer window and probably collapse soon after. I am so not surprised. If you cast your mind back to Haigh early interviews his conduct looked funky like he was hiding something. He always knew company ownership issues a big problem. He chanced being able to fool the FL until Harvey got appointed their chief exec. Couldn't make it up. Only Leeds United. We could be permanently stuck as a poor club!

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21 Jan 2014 18:10:13
work going on in elland road offices, walls coming down glass partitions going up, leeds village model back on haigh's desk. land purchase been mentioned, where, what for and when unknown.

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21 Jan 2014 18:02:05
put TOMA3 on the back burner, let the suits worry about investment. can we focus on supporting our team "MOT" an all that.
i'm for jumping on the 4-4-2 revolution band wagon, granted we have players who are average & inconsistent but we have players, this group should get us into top half of league. mcD needs to motivate the team, if new make a difference signings come in now great, if not let's worry about it closed season. we will beat the tractor boys and clean sheets at home start here.

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21 Jan 2014 16:38:52
Maybe GFH are blocking transfers because the new owners want a new manager?

( NOT fact, just a thought )

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21 Jan 2014 18:14:30
It has nothing to do with GFH if the new owners do want a new manager but I doubt they do anyway.

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22 Jan 2014 11:06:41
It has a lot to do with GFH. if the new owners said they want a new manager and for him to make his own signings, therefore DO NOT sign any players or the deal is off!

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21 Jan 2014 14:29:21
Blackpool sack Ince. BMd surely next.

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21 Jan 2014 18:22:54
Hopefully not as it would achieve nothing other than going back to square one yet again. Continuity brings success not knee jerk managerial changes every few months.

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Been to the last few home games and not once have I heard any fan say mcdermott needs to go they know that it takes time re build a team so no he has to stay

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Don't be daft.
Be patient

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Grayson wasn't backed, nor was Warrnock and now McDermott getting nothing close to proper backing. If sacked who in their right mind would take the Leeds job. It's more likely McD will walk away.

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21 Jan 2014 20:09:11
Good managers bring success not continuity!

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21 Jan 2014 21:10:57
Success is achieved by continuity! how can people not see that?

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21 Jan 2014 21:47:01
Success is not achieved with continuity it is achieved by good managers!

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Yes and brian mcdermott is a good manager anyone doubting him really needs to get a grip best thing to happen to the club in years.

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Mcdermott will be a success at are club given time and patience from fans and the board we after stick by him 10 managers in as many years says it all we need stability.

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Ince is incapable of running and motivating any sort of team, his record speaks for itself?

Why do people thing that mediocre players will make good managers.

. or do they just think a big name will attract supporters?

I still haven't forgotten watching Ince seriously injure Strachan, being a former team mate makes it even worse.

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I agree with you scoops. Even the best managers would fail to make an impact in just one season, especially with our squad. A long run under a good manager (BmD) is what we need (as does every club) Continuity is a catalyst for success.

Mr Happy.

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21 Jan 2014 13:58:38
if and when the latest takeover happens am I right in thinking that any new owners can only invest 6M of their own money into the club?.cos according to reports they have already put in that exact amount in the running of the club while the takeover is being sorted out, this sounds a bit convenient, does that mean that they won't be able to spend any decent money on the squad?,

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Assume you are talking about FFP rules? If so then only come into effect if Club makes big loss current financial year. I think the rules limit how much owners can put in to cover Club trading losses. I'm mot sure but no doubt someone will tell me if I'm wrong!

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{Ed039's Note - football league website explains FFP rules, Premiership FFP and European FFP rules are all different)

21 Jan 2014 13:38:20
The latest statement from GFH yesterday still says that the English FA has not yet approved the takeover. Why aren't journalists asking the question "what is the situation?" to the FA press secretary? Simon (lifelong LUFC fan, land-locked in Manchester)

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Don't think that an issue any more. Reports are that FL will not oppose take over. Hence if deal doesn't go through now GFH could be in trouble with Bahrain Stock Exchange because their share price rocketed on the back of their statement yesterday and previous statements saying same thing!

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Cheers, but if the FA have approved the takeover why doesn't omeone make them say that, then we can all focus on picking apart the fact that GFH keep saying the takeover is still down to FA approval (as per their last statement picked up by Reuters)?

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Baring in mind the various widely publicised reports (including tv Radio Leeds) that FL approval has been given will be interesting to see what next GFH update says

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Baring in mind the various widely publicised reports (including tv Radio Leeds) that FL approval has been given will be interesting to see what next GFH update says

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"Reports are that FL will not oppose take over."

Can you tell me an official source that states this, and if so, why hasn't it been done?

If it has been approved then, again, show me the source?

The league hate Leeds as we all know, so well.

They are sitting on this for whatever perverse pleasure or reason, they would take delight in publicising the problem if it were ours?

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{Ed013's Note - There is no need for a source on a rumours page. If any info is legitimate and a source close the the club, whey should they give that up. A rumour page helps pass on info, you decide if it is good or bad. Lots of posts on here have been spot on, but left no names or sources}

21 Jan 2014 10:45:20
I take the last posters comments on Kebe & Stewart but fitness is one thing, but running around whimping out of every 50/50 challenge is nothing to do with fitness or lack of games, give it a couple of weeks and these two will join the rest of the has beens bench warming on full wages, these two are no better than we had, poor management, poor judgement BMD is not safe with a transfer kitty hence why he has not been given any money. I rest my case

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I have to agree. I think BMcD is a decent coach and man manager, but he is useless in the transfer market based on his signings for Leeds!

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Why are you so desperate for wingers to go in for 50/50 challenges? I don't see Ronaldo or messi going in for 50/50 balls. Kebe and Stewart put a balance on the 442 formation. They are out and out wingers, they stretch play and make in less compact in the middle. I also thought Ross linked up well with them the other day.

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Oh and an unfit 50/50 challenge could more likely lead to a serious injury then when fit.

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When not fully match fit, I wonder if you run the danger off getting injured easier. maybe reasoning to lack off aggression

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It is said that a player is more likely to get injured by going in half heartedly to tackles. Hesitating in a tackle is more likely to cause you injury. The long and short is the manager knows if a player is physically fit and if he isn't then he shouldn't play him. If he is fit then he should tackle with full commitment. Not being MATCH fit i.e out of practice isn't an excuse not to tackle properly!

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Physically fit and match fit are two different types of fitness. Get behind the team and stop suggesting wingers should be making 50/50 challenges.

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21 Jan 2014 10:38:58
Not a rumour just a Tuesday rant!

Regardless of Takeover/Non takeover I feel we are still suffering from the Bates era, which is why everything to do with the purchase of the club is so difficult.

There is noway on this earth that since Warnocks departure we could somehow change the squad into a promotion winning team. We know we need financial backing, we know we need to get rid of all the dead wood. Its a massive ask to pull in players that can guide us to promotion between now and the end of the season.

Being a Leeds fan my patience is gradually wearing away. every year it 'this is are time' however this never seems to materialise. let's hope we can finish in the playoff (big ask).

My moneys on promotion next season!

Diamonlight

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21 Jan 2014 13:38:54
A fool and his money springs to mind!

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21 Jan 2014 10:17:32
Here goes my first post. I can't understand all the fans slating Kebe and Stewart. Kebe had no playing time all season and for a league that's one of the toughest in the world i'd imagine it takes 6-8 games to be fully fit. And stewart is young at the biggest club he's played for so he needs time to adjust. to judge after two games is ludacris. Aren't we supposed to march on together?

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Good post, exactly what I was thinking.

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So were are a club that buys unfit, old and average players.

£50 for a shirt and that's the best we can do?

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The point of the post was indicating that they are not at thier best yet and need to be given time to settle in and get up to speed. so stop the premature negativity. if 10 games from now people still feell the same i'll hold my hands up and say that I was wrong.

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21 Jan 2014 08:14:42
What's going on now with this supposed takeover, deal is now in danger of collapse according to adam pope, so fed up with it never known such a going on, no wonder the team have not been playing too well just lately, it's so unsettling for them and bmac!

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Pope is talking rubbish, negotiations between any parties can collapse if they don't reach an agreement.He is just scaremongering and the moaners and worriers latch onto it.

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21 Jan 2014 08:01:28
Is it me or have Huddersfield got a better team than us?

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On a par now with us would happily take vaughan hammill norwood smithies would be just what we need to really challenge for promotion

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Two up and coming prospects signed in Jan

Wells and a Norway U18 international who had a trial at Man Utd

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Three up and coming players
Wells
Bunn stricken from man city
Norway u18 international

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They have now.

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21 Jan 2014 05:23:16
Red bull are secretly part of the constornuim behind this take over usen thierry henry representing them to take the tension off red bull as they've heard some of voices of lufc fans unhappy as redbull changes everything to do with the club their deal in it their buying ER an TA but selling ER to david haigh an salam nooruddin which DH an SN will pay installments for ER but redbull wants to own TA them selfs an are for changing the name of it to redbulls fitness redbull wants to terminate the sponser deal an bring in adidas to sponser the home an away shirt an wants the third kit to be their own design an wants that kit to be worning in cup matches an they've chosen the colour of the kit to sliver an navy enterprise insurance will also terminate their contract as redbull wants their logo on front of shirt an are happy to keep it pain white kit the austrian base firm as promised champions league football within 2years


MOT FELLOW WHITES

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Well it will be better than dieing a slow death like we are now and it will be the only way of getting top flight football again and ill take that every day of the week, even if we play in purple!

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If this is the case it's time to go forward and just maybe get some good news for a change.

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Why would Enterprise insurance agree to terminate a sponsorship contract, what is the benefit to them to do so? Enterprises owner is one of the consortium

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Champions league football within two years my hole! Keep it real for God sake! Stop posting whilst drunk or high!

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21 Jan 2014 00:00:07
We are supposed to be MARCHING ON TOGETHER and that includes the manager. He cannot buy champagne on a beer budget and that has been the issue for the previous three managers. If there was more positivity from being UNITED the team would feel it. How can someone play well when their confidence is being scarred by the negative comments you see on this site.
UNITED WE STAND, UNITED WE MARCH, UNITED WE SUPPORT and at times UNITED WE FALL. Let's all remain UNITED.
Bring on Ipswich!

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Well said first poster about time we start seeing supporters on here not just the doomsayers wanting instant gratification. This has always been a 2yr plan GHF said this from day one let's show some faith and let's support our lads any way we can
MOT

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Totally agree with first 2 posters! Well said!

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They've got a hell of a job on their hands next season then! No progress has been made this season.

Its all hot air from them

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