Leeds Banter Archive July 21 2016

 

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21 Jul 2016 16:49:46
Big Sam? The FA are nothing if not consistent. How can his CV stand up against most of the other top 5 in the betting. Why has no big club been sniffing around when jobs were available, because he is a second tier manager who you bring in for a firefight, to escape relegation. England need a different animal.

Any successfull manger must have man motivator on his CV but must also have "winner" at the top of his list. I do not think Championship playoffs count. Maybe they shoud have given him a Massimo - a one year rolling contract with a £0 payoff. I wonder how you can stand Klinsman up against Allardyce and then choose Allardyce? Explanation please.

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21 Jul 2016 17:18:38
I have no problem with Sam Allardice being appointed England manager.

Hopefully the first thing he will do is tell Rooney to f**k off followed by Hart and Sterling.

We have had so many managers in the past decades who have earn't serious money and produced nothing. Hodgeson was a total tosser with nothing to offer other than a bank account number.

Sam has consistently taken teams from a bad place and promoted them, England could do a lot worse.

But no doubt you'd rather us pay millions of pounds to someone with no experience, no motivation, and nothing to lose.

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21 Jul 2016 17:58:01
You have to check your facts about big Sam "consistently getting teams promotion" he's only ever won promotion twice and both of them were over 20years ago.

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21 Jul 2016 18:02:42
Sorry 1 of those promotion was over 20 years ago but like I said hardly consistent 2 promotion's 20 years apart and very little in between.

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21 Jul 2016 18:13:13
Bit harsh, Rooney has had surgery to replace his hair and enhance his boyish looks, he tries hard and puts the ball into space, even when there is no one to receive it. Sterling can run the length of the pitch and not even have to pass the ball, in fact he is so fast he usually can't stop and runs the ball out of play! Hart, well, he is head n shoulders above the rest - don't see your problem🙈.

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21 Jul 2016 19:50:09
The man is definitely second tier. Never managed a big team. Never won a big trophy. Best win percentage at a team only 43% (at the mighty Blackpool) . Only lasted 24 games at Newcastle. How does that stack up as a must have choice for the England job. In his spell with a "big" team, West Ham, he skillfully guided them to the heady heights of 10th. Before being released.
Doesn't scream success does it?

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21 Jul 2016 20:42:44
Leodis
Big S best of English bad bunch but why you ask about this is just a big a talking point. Newsflash. There's been no really good/ successful English manager for ages. No English manager has ever won the PL and it's been going almost quarter of a century. Last English manager to win the old Division One was Howard Wilkinson.
The FA clearly wanted an English guy. This is the best we've got. Even though he is distinctly mediocre once a decision was made to go English he was the best we could hope for. I support the appointment because I don't think a foreign appointment is for us. That comes with problems.
Big S won't win anything but I'm expecting to get to QFs of tournaments rather than get knocked out in group or first round after group stages.
Oh and please don't mention Harry Redknapp for manager because he's English. The FA would never pick him because of his dodgy transfer dealings and I think he's as good as retired now.
Go Big S (oh and arrange for Birdcage to arrive to Leeds on a free before you leave the Light Stadium)

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23 Jul 2016 14:21:19
Waste of space allayed uck. Won't last 2 years
And I think sterling is useful and able to scare the stuffing out of defences. Ok. Not consistent. But what other England player would worry a defender?
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As much as I dislike Rooney he was generally one of our/ your better players
Not sure why silv still playing. Get rid
Not sure why wood still playing. Hoping picking him for guisely and not the Pete is a sign monk has seen the fact he is a $3mill non football player.

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21 Jul 2016 15:53:36
Why not let the editors of the sun the mirror and the mail have the England manager job as they usually pick the team anyway.

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21 Jul 2016 17:19:29
Despite the irony they wouldn't have done any worse than Hodgson?

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21 Jul 2016 20:49:23
Wex,

Because those individuals are human dross.

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23 Jul 2016 13:47:20
Well one thing's for sure the players will certainly learn how to hoof it . To be fair though no decent manager would ever want or take the england job . In an imaginary premier league england are the equivalent of stoke, therefore sam is about as good as we'd ever get . Mourinho would never manage stoke now would he.

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21 Jul 2016 14:39:37
2m bid for limbombe not us so if we want him just go in with 2-5m and get it over with . sure to be worth more in a couple of years.

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21 Jul 2016 18:57:53
Don't think we are getting him. It's Forestieri all over again. And don't even get me started on Federico Viviani.

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22 Jul 2016 06:22:34
Remember the viviani affair. Cor blimey. Don't wanna start on that all over again eh! Still hurts eh mate? Sorta grinds you still eh? Sometimes things get lodged deep inside you and no matter how much you try and forget. You just can't. Viviani is one I reckon. So unbelievably disgraceful football business, best just let it lie. It's hard though mate eh!
Let's just not mention viviani anymore. I nearly had viviani as my username. Ooops.

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22 Jul 2016 08:15:45
Thanks for not mentioning it Aussie. Deep respect!

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21 Jul 2016 14:33:06
Good post speed4eva below
It seems England are always a decade too late. They reminded me of a mixture of Greece and Spain in years gone by
We need young. Brave. Why not try get the zid before France get him.

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21 Jul 2016 12:32:36
The FA have backed themselves into a corner by stating they want an Englishman to manage the England team. The Premiership is arguably one of the best leagues in the world. It has lots of cash and attracts the best foreign players (but not all of them) . The club owners appoint who they consider the best managers and they are usually foreign. Young English managers don't get much of a look in and cannot gain the experience. So we have limited numbers of English players and few English managers with experience. You are left with Allardyce, Bruce and also the likes of Hoddle. Southgate has been messed about and isn't in the running after the original fall out. Eddie Howe is lacking experience but history shows he might only be able to produce the goods at Bournemouth - a small club which he knows and where he is happy.

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21 Jul 2016 12:18:06
On the subject of Big Sam some have asked who else? I'd say when your offering up to 3.5 million a year you can have anyone you want.

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21 Jul 2016 14:21:10
I reckon 7 of us take 500k a year and win next World Cup. I'm in
Or my pic. Harry and Eddie.

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21 Jul 2016 14:44:24
but who is the right man, pick any manager in the world. Pep Mourniono just moved to big clubs they are two proven winners. so who you going for pick any manager in the world for england i'd pick big sam above all others. He organises defence well, he gets average players playing well and get skillful players playing consistantly. He always has an effective game plan, he always has a good plan b. He is not someone you want to let down and command respects. No one ever enjoys playing against a big sam team and he has got some great results over the year.

Has he won anything? has he ever had a big team. No but that is due to style not content ask yourself this. Has big sam ever underachiveved? has he ever had time to work on a team and not made them better? has he ever not got the best from his players? has any team he has ever managed felt let down by him?

so on track record he will get best from players and over achieve. happy days who better than big sam. without commenting on style (football snobs with no real idea) what can you say bad about big sam? you can only beat who is in front of you. you can also only manage the team you have. he has never had a man city but now has england expect him to do us proud.

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21 Jul 2016 15:35:51
What about Chris Coleman Bermondsey I know he's with Wales but I am sure he would have been tempted.

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21 Jul 2016 15:50:34
But Bermondsey he has never overachieved he is average and like you said never won anything never managed a big club and the reason for this is he is average. He's been around forever and in all those years done nothing.

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21 Jul 2016 17:24:59
Just waiting for Sam to be appointed and for him to get rid of Rooney, Hart and Sterling to name the obvious.

The post match discussions will need a few bleeps, no doubt.

Looking forward to a real English manager getting the job, rather than someone who hasn't got a clue.

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21 Jul 2016 20:26:25
no to coleman why would he take the job why would we want him, English managers for english team unless their is a good foerign option which I don't think there is.

Sam has he over acheiveed

Blackpool took over 1 point off drop to 4th tier left them in playoffs. Over achievement

Notts took over relegation fodder. made champions with 99 points. overachiement

Bolton. mid table chamiponship. got them promoted kept them in league and guided them to europe . massive over achievment

newcastle and Blackburn. finsihed higher than when he took over but not given time. telling after he left both teams got noteably worse. not overachivement but both teams much better with big sam than without

West ham. relgated side. took them up and established them into good solid prem team. something they had not been for long while. Overachievement

he may not be your cup of tea but he gets results makes clubs better than before and other than west ham no team has done better without big sam than with him and that is a fact. every team gets worse once he leaves. I really do no understand what is to question. not his fault he ain't had a big team. Also england are not big team we lost to iceland. finally if not sam then who what big team successful manager would you want?

finally on coleman he is not good just every team around wales did badly. this was worse euros ever and portugal worse ever champs. big sam would of made us compete in poor tolement maybe even won it.

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{Ed003's Note - b'pool spent big believe it or not when sam was in charge he messed up big time in the run up they were certs for automatic - bolton as we now know spent absolutely stupid when he was there so no over achievement for me - saying that I have no prob him being england manager as that is where england are right now,just my opinion of course.}

21 Jul 2016 11:47:59
Limbombe.
I wonder if he does not play in his preferred position (and every game) . Even more if he has a decent season and a big boy comes sniffing around; will we be talking about a contract rebel next summer? Are we buying a trouble maker with a "chip". I only hope that he has the talent of Messi to back up his seeming attitude.

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