Leeds Banter Archive February 22 2014

 

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22 Feb 2014 21:29:16
Does anyone know why hunt started? I don't get it, no games for ages and he is a pretty poor player anyway. At least play smith over him or even poleon as he can't reach his potential without games. Come on BM sort yourself out. And why would he wait until the 80th minute to make a change with the garbage football we were playing, did same thing against Leicester and we lost 1-0 and lucky to not lose again. I'm happy with a point away but can't help thinking with better management we would sneak these games, mot, Vinny.

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The game was dire, what happened to his plan for all out attack?, can't see Cellino sticking with Mac with performances like that, we've looked pretty poor in lots of games this season, can't see we've made any progress at all, whoever gets the job will have his work cut out to sort this lot out.

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Agree matt smith will be quality really looking forward to his development. I don't really want to say get rid of players but maybe hunt may do decent playing behind smith and McCormack because he does have a decent football brain Just isn't a striker.

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22 Feb 2014 21:20:01
Thought Jack Butland had an outstanding game today, the lad is everything Paddy Kenny isn't and better. Off his line quickly, comes out for crosses not a flapper.

Frustrating game to watch, most posters give honest accurate account of our team today. Too much back passing and hoof ball, no one in the middle to take the came by scruff of the neck but that's been all season.

The defence where very panicky giving away needless corners and just saying the ball when defenders had time to put foot on the ball and play it out to midfield. Aargh, getting annoyed, best leave it.

Next season hopefully we will see actual football played by Leeds.
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22 Feb 2014 21:03:17
The performances this season are the worst I've ever seen as a leeds fan in the last 45 years.How people rate Bmd is beyond me.He is no good and is a useless scout.He brought in kebe, stewart, Hunt, wooton and they are deadwood.His tactical nous is very poor and his use of subs is ridiculous.Cellino will not stick with him .Wouldn't trust him with my money.

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{Ed013's Note - Last season was just as bad, if not worse}

Unfortunally I am now being tempted to agree with the above post

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Agree with ed last season was a lot worse and people slagging Stewart off he's young and learning hopefully all this game time can push him up a level for next season as a team. I think we lose the ball too much and make too many mistakes need someone creative in midfield so McCormack can stop dropping back and be up top attacking defenders

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22 Feb 2014 21:01:04
At last a keeper with a presence who's prepared to come off his line (unlike Paddy). Hope we can get Jack permanently. When the clearout starts let's have a team with a proper spine. Keeper, ball winners at the back, 2 pit bulls in midfield with 2 who can pass a ball. Surely its not rocket science because at the mo we're still far too soft. Put some pride back in the shirt. degsy leyland

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Have to remember kennys been injured probably can't get off the line with his dodgy ankle good shot stopper still but butland looked real good today could never afford him but one can only dream hope he earns his world cup place at our club

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Stop making excuses for how poor a keeper paddy kenny really is he never came of his line before his injury so don't make out like he did

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Awfully sorry just don't think he's as bad as people make out and this site just seems to be slagging everyone off at the moment. Know its hard to get behind team atm but don't think the goalkeepers our main problem

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Its an opinion paddy kenny brings nothing to the table he can't kick properly, can't come of his line and has made loads of mistakes ie the games against leicster and ipswich at home

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22 Feb 2014 20:36:49
I admit cellino was wrong with the timing off sacking mcdermot but look at result against Huddersfield! He gets reinstated and look at the results a 1 nil defeat and a bore draw! Get rid now get someone in to end off season so they can look a squad and see what they need in summer! No point keeping mcdermot because he will be sacked after 10 games off next season

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And coming back from a goal down to beat yeovil

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Not forgetting yovils missed penalty or is that forgotten about, and the fact they played against the wind a lot better than us, let's face it the team is dyer and its going to take multi millions of pounds to sort that garbage out our first division team was way better

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Agreed our first division team was better and we should have spent in our first January in the championship and pushed on through when we was I play offs as soon as the summer came and sold gradel and give away Johnson that's when the troubles began at least we got an owner now that don't take s**t off players if they demand moves he sticks em in the reserves to rot till there contract up hope this beginning of good things to come

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22 Feb 2014 20:21:57
Well I have given Kebe a chance thinking he needed game time to improve but he is like a cart horse with 4 left feet, bmd says he is a confidence player and needs time! But we don, t have time would rather see white on the wing at least he can run

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22 Feb 2014 19:01:49
Hi not in the country so not at the game today. Can someone clarify exactly what sort of performance the team put in!?! Reading BMD assessment then we put in a good show!?! Is he the only person who saw this? I personally do not rate him as a manager and his summary goes completely against any of the other reports from fans on social media!

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{Ed013's Note - A draw was a fair result and a good point considering Leeds had no quality or desire to create any real chances. The 2 wingers were dire and McCormack was frustrated. Smith came on for the last 10 minutes and Leeds looked a better side, but unfortunately didn't have the quality to get the ball into the box. On a positive note, Jack Butland was solid and put in a good performance}

22 Feb 2014 18:44:35
My Player Ratings VS Middlesbrough

Starting XI

Butland - 8
Peltier - 6
Pearce - 6
Wootton - 6
Warncock - 5
Kebe - 5
Austin - 6
Murphy - 5
Stewart - 6
McCormack - 5
Hunt - 5

Subs

Smith - 5

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Think you have Kebe, Austin and Stewart a tad high.

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My player ratings
Butland - 9, positive distribution, great saves and a major presence inside the box. Unlike kenny
Peltier- 5, just an average performance
Pearce- 6, hoofball, kept playing it back to butland and again pretty average
Wooton - 6, not quite as much hoofing but still lacks confidence which is why the defence do not keep the ball.
Warnock - 5, kept miscontrolling the ball but was solid enough
Kebe- 3, lethargic, slow, bad control, terrible crossing and just awful to watch
Austin- 5, non- existent really
Murphy 7, looked a lot more confident, good shot on goal, good passing and really improving
Stewart- 5, non- existent
Mccormack - 6, non- existent because of hoofball, lack of service and some really poor through balls were made to him. Not his fault
Hunt- 5, runs around a lot but does nothing really

Really bad today, if we play like that against qpr we are going to get stuffed. No tactics are in place. The ball is just hoofed up the pitch aimlessly and that's why mccormack gets lost in games. No wonder he is frustrated

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I thought warnock was very good today, a lot of interceptions and tough in the tackle

Deco the dub

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Cameron actually put in a few of what would've been perfect crosses in the vast majority of teams. Slotting the ball in the small gap between goalkeeper and centre back but unfortunately no one was there to meet it. And Kebe offered very little going forward but I think he put in a good shift in the middle of the park tracking back and whatnot.

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2nd player ratings more or less correct in my opinion apart from Warnock and Hunt who I thought done reasonably well. Along with Butland and Murphy were the only passable performers.

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Above poster look back at your comments.
McCormack 6 non-existent?
Hunt 5 runs around a lot?

I think i'd give someone who runs around a lot more marks than a player who was non-existent.

Front players thrive on service and kebe 3 stewart 5 looks like they GOT NO service to me.

COME ON LEEDS

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22 Feb 2014 18:42:51
How bmc as still got a job I don't know!
He as the worst record of any recent Leeds manager and just constantly talks tripe .
What happened to going all out attack today?
I know and so does he that he as got maxium until end of season but he won't walk away for fans!( or maybe will get paid out less of is contract if he walks )
Nice man good scout sh* te manager!
Living off promotion with reading .
Bw
Morley whites

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You sir are 100% correct, why on earth they re-instated him I do not know, our best performance this season came on the one and only game he wasn't around, enough said!

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22 Feb 2014 19:54:41
lets go all out attack and lose, great idea . better to gain an important point than get nothing at all . if we keep it clean at the back things will start to go our way

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Mcdermott will come good.

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BMD will come good! He is a reject like the players he brought in.

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If you're a McDermott fan you can't love Leeds Utd he's crippling us time to take off the rose coloured specs.

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Mcdermott crippling us really is that you neil its your useless signings that's doing that i'm afraid just take a look at how many warnock signings are stealing a wage norris hasn't started a league game all season and what about drury the list is endless so yeah in mcdermott I trust given time he will turn us into a force just take a look at the reading side he left behind there all his signings.

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Mcdermott is tactically inept we're playing too much hoofball just as Brian did at Reading, you're deluded if you think he's the man for Leeds. I agree with you about Warnock's signings but let's look at Smith, Stewart and Kebe all pants. I would suggest our new patron is responsible for bringing Butland in and I hope he attracts more of a similar quality.

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22 Feb 2014 18:19:37
Ed can you tell me please the players out of contract at the end of the season

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{Ed013's Note - Off the top of my head; Diouf, Drury, Brown, Varney, Green and Norris. Not 100% sure on Tonge and Pugh}

Think pugh and ashdown to add to that list

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{Ed013's Note - I forgot about Ashdown, I will look into it}

22 Feb 2014 17:44:04
Next season we will be champions of this division.

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Agreed pal

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If cellino get the okay, I agree as well

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22 Feb 2014 17:37:56
Basically, need a new manager, I think these players are ok but there's no motivation and decent tactics being dictated by management.

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A Coach, new tatics, pass & move game, lose the hoofball, flair players with skill & vision . that's just for starters!

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For me malky mckay

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22 Feb 2014 22:12:52
Agree totally

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Mcdermott is a miles better manager than malky mackay given time brian will get us going we need stability and he is the man to bring that anyone that thinks different seriously needs to go and support a team like chelsea they love chopping and changing managers

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I think Laudrup would be an excellent choice

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22 Feb 2014 16:38:09
Guys and gals please understand this season is done.
As long as the team keeps us in the championship.
You have seen Butland and what an inspiration he was today.
Next season we will be Champions and as I keep saying Massimo is the man.
If and when a new manager comes to ER please give him time to prove himself.
Don't forget 2 more top quality players are coming in very soon.
Jeff

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How soon Jeff?
Who?
And do you think there will be any chance of signing Butland permanently? He is quality! PA

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22 Feb 2014 16:35:47
Had to chuckle when Boro brought on Tomlin, it took 10 mins for him to read their play book. I wonder how many pages our play book has? One page entitled "Hoof" and a special page for Kebe that is blank

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22 Feb 2014 16:31:20
dundee white here think it says it all when your keeper is man of match the don would have fined all the player if that happend in his day

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22 Feb 2014 16:03:50
Poor display today
Should have brought Mowatt on for a bit of creativity
We're missing a player with a killer pass

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It would help if we had a player who could pass first

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Were missing a dictator. Nobody to control the game EVERY week. Need a Scott Parker/Frank Lamaprd with someone like Chalobah. Our two centre mids looked amateur today.

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{Ed013's Note - Lets see if QPR crumble and maybe Mr Cellino puts the money in for Barton. This would surprise people and although he has had a nightmare past and most fans can't stand him, I think he would be a great signing for Leeds}

Couldn't agree more Ed!

Class player at this level. Absolute T0553R though :)

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22 Feb 2014 15:41:21
Don't normally slate players but Cameron Stewart is dreadful no pace no power no skill no hunger awful signing. Although I do think Kebe is a decent signing not a very good and but still geting involved probably best man for us going forward. Missed byram today I think. Never mind we will move on and look to the next game as McDermott says.

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*not a very good game*

Just read everyone slating him though maybe it's tv but he looked a hell of a lot better than Stewart

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Eh? Jimmy Kebe our best player going
forward? I must have fallen asleep and dreamt that awful 0-0 draw then, because in the match that I saw, Kebe was toally inept going forwards, backwards, sideways or in any other direction he could actually be bothered going.
Lufctim.

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Our best player going forward was butland as he was the only one kicking the ball in that direction

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Kebe was dreadful. He got past a man once and his pass was pulled back straight to a defender. Send them both back

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Had family in hospital only saw the second half which I thought Kebe was dreadfull. Around the 85 min mark got the ball on the egdge of boro penalty area and he didn't KNOW HIMSLEF what to do.

;(

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22 Feb 2014 15:29:36
The thing is we, ve seen it all before, when there's uncertainty in the boardroom there's uncertainty on the pitch. Why else can the team fail to perform when we've seen hugely better performances earlier in the season. We are going through a period of transition and change and that will be reflected on the pitch. Have faith, things will improve but not overnight!

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That don't explain the desire to put in a tackle or or chase after the ball none of which kebe is willing to do. not doing something is still a choice just like doing something.

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Just remind me which match saw a HUGELY better performance. JD

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I thought that was exactly what I was trying to explain!

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22 Feb 2014 15:11:09
{Ed013's Note - Please take a little time to vote for who has been the better signing so far, Stewart or Kebe. The poll is on the Blog and voting Polls page. Thanks, MOT}

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22 Feb 2014 15:02:44
The 2 wingers are as bad as I have seen in a Leeds shirt. Adomah did more in 20 mins than those two did in whole game together! Austin not much better either. I actually thought Hunt did quite well seeing he's been out for 4 months. Worked hard and tried to link up midfield with attack. I like BMD but what he sees in Kebe and to a lesser extent Stewart is beyond me. i'm not a big fan of Poleon but i'd play him ahead of those two anyday. At least he can cause panic with his pace unlike those disinterested lazy pair.
Think Murphy gets some unfair stick. Would like him to play a bit further forward though. Should of kept Green and lost Austin in my opinion as he just cannot pass the ball. Big rebuilding job in the summer needed with lots of players leaving. Just hope there's money to spend for a change!

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22 Feb 2014 14:55:28
Stuck in traffick leaving the game after getting my car kicked by a load of boro! But that falls into significant after the performance today , apart from butland all Leeds team where poor, some more than others, I don't know where we go from here. Here's looking forward to 2014/15 season as this ones well and truly over

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22 Feb 2014 14:39:50
We need to sign another 10 jack butlands! Sheer quality!
As for the rest - well it's just not worth wasting my time! No touch, no class, no desire and no heart! PA

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Agree there mate what an amazing keeper if only we had him for good! Sorry to say it but reminds me of Kaspar schmeichael

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22 Feb 2014 14:36:14
Yes well done Butland, perhaps the foundations of a great Leeds revolution. 7 or 8 more players of his quality and we could be on the way up :)

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22 Feb 2014 14:33:31
What does Kebe do? I have never seen a player so disinterested in wanting the ball, please drop him he is useless.

Dougie

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22 Feb 2014 15:04:40
I think Stewart could come good but Kebe might as well go now. I think Franck Moussa and Michael Jacobs would have been better options.

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Most of Macs signings hae been poor, against a poor boro side who can't buy a goal, we neer looked like scoring, hope Cellino is already planning which players he wants for next summer, nowhere near good enough to go up this year, c'mon Cellino, clean sweep starting with Mac and all the dross he's fetched in, his signings have been dire, had a better side in league 1.

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22 Feb 2014 14:22:19
Hi Ed; not sure where to post this, so I"ll leave it up to you,

Leeds WILL bounce back next week and beat QPR 2 - 1

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Why are we getting another 10 players on loan?
We can't score as our midfield is shocking, where was It?

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Totally agree Gj and that to me is the main problem. JD

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22 Feb 2014 14:19:48
Posted rarlier. I was exactly right. Best we could hope for today was a draw with a loss the more likely. Got the draw thanks to Butland. Hunt, Kebe; Stewart; Murphy - At best bad but generally awful. Kebe absolute garbage. Compare him to Adome(Their substitute winger). Kebe would struggle on a sunday morning if he had the energy to get up.

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22 Feb 2014 14:15:32
I`m going to say it again
Kebe is useless, we might as well start with 10.

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Completely agree, would Ariyibi be worth a try, at least he might put some effort in

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22 Feb 2014 14:15:31
Very poor performance.Bmd really is clueless and needs replacing asap.Not being fickle, but saying as it is.Bmd's signings have been horrendous.Kebe, Stewart, Hunt are garbage and would struggle in league one.Smith should have come on for Hunt in the first half.Cellino will have his head soon.

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22 Feb 2014 14:14:52
Cellino IN. McDermott OUT.
Hunt; Kebe; Stewart; Murphy in starting line up. doesn't substitute Hunt till the 80th Minute. What a joke. Rubbish. No quality; no ability to pass the ball. Nothing really to be positive about except we somehow managed not to lose thanks mainly to Butland. Lucky to come away with a point against a poor Middlesborough team. Where has the passing game gone?

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I am afraid I have to agree
Why no subs until 80 mins, we needed them after 70 and Omg what the hell is kebe doing, utter tosh!
We were rubbish till 82 mins

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22 Feb 2014 14:39:14
I was glad when McD was re-appointed but serious questions do need to be asked. Some good points today. Butland, clean sheet, point away from home! however against a Boro side who hadn't scored in 5 games we get mullered on possession and number of corners. Not 1 shot on target and to be fair absolutely no improvement on 12 months ago. On paper a poor squad but a good enough starting 11 to be challenging but where is the motivation and effort? The motivation has to come from the manager because modern day footballers do not seem to have the ability to think for themselves but it is not happening. He has brought in enough players to have made a difference but it hasn't changed a thing. A good result against Huddersfield should have been the starting point but since then it has been the same old rubbish. Nobody wants McD to succeed more than me but he is doing nothing to suggest he is up to the job.

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Couldn't agree more, we look slow, everything is laboured, the passing is sloppy, we stand about and let people. run past us.i was absolutely disgusted with that performance.only buttland, hunt and murphy can take any satisfaction from their stint.we seem to lack any sort of passion.

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22 Feb 2014 14:12:51
I read this page everyday and never make a comment, but watching kebes crap performance yet again has been one to many for me! Since the first time I watched him put on the shirt for us he has done nothing and I av had enough! His touch is non existanct as are his crossing skills and as for as tackling I don't think I have seen him make one yet! Please tell me that u all agree and he needs to go bk!
Cheers rant over!

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I totally agree Bambi on ice springs to mind.kevlufc

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No, Bambi had more composure and stronger tackling ability.
More like crazy legs crane

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Yes sorry Bambi, I was to harsh on you.kevlufc. Keble worst Leeds player since brolin . kevlufc

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22 Feb 2014 14:12:37
Forgot to say. Butland excellent. Shrew leeds

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22 Feb 2014 14:11:14
Butland our best player today,

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22 Feb 2014 14:10:53
We'll deserved MOM

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22 Feb 2014 14:10:07
Numberone. never seen loan signings as poor as stewart and kebe. For gods sake cross the ball. Can either of u actually pass a ball more than 3 yards.
Number two. No shot on target.
One of the most dire leeds teams for years and years.
Its ok supporting bmd but that performance was conference standard even though we didn't lose.
Bore draw again. Shrew leeds

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22 Feb 2014 14:09:43
Poor, very very poor!

The only inspiration was JACK BUTLAND, phenomenal

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22 Feb 2014 14:08:00
Does anybody know what the point of Jimmy kebe is? His only aim in every game seems to not get injured.
Lufctim.

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{Ed013's Note - I support any player that puts on the shirt, but God give me strength, he is terrible!}

22 Feb 2014 14:07:55
Positives; Butland and Noel Hunts running.

Negatives; The rest.

ValleyWhite.

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Back four looked good! Murphy okish. The other midfielders. Shocking! Kebe awful! Hunt never looks like getting us a goal!

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22 Feb 2014 13:57:36
Here we go Matt Smith is on the park.
Now I smell a goal today.

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Yeh Smith is on first thing he does his shove someone in the box, chance and possesion GONE.

BRILLIANT

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22 Feb 2014 15:14:17
We looked better with smith on just too late

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22 Feb 2014 13:47:47
Jimmy Kebe you are bone idle

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Kebe has been awfull apart from dog botherers its like playing with ten men every week still at least we have got a goalkeeper now would have lost with paddy just need wickham now to help ross play offs still possible come on LEEDS MOT

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Cant we send him back to free up a loan slot.

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Bone idle? You rated him did you
Lets be honest he was CRAP!

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No I did not rate him, don't know what language means that bone idle is good. If you are being sarcastic then Well done

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Nottswhite sorry just my sense of humour Yes he was crap ;lol

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22 Feb 2014 13:46:15
Austin poor
srewart very poor
kebe awful

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Just seen the worst performance of the season not one shot on target all mcdermots signings are poor buckland and mccormack only two with quality big changers needed give cellino the reins

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22 Feb 2014 13:32:59
Anyone know Warnocks pass completion percentage? Is it in the double digits? Hoof hoof hoof

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22 Feb 2014 13:14:50
So tell me
Where is the goal coming from?
Sorry I just don't see it.
Hope I'm wrong again.

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Your correct again Jeff
Lets hope this takeover goes through on Monday
Jeff tell me! Would you sack mcdermot? he is clueless

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22 Feb 2014 12:19:04
kenny not even made bench could he be ob way outta door

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{Ed013's Note - Injured}

22 Feb 2014 11:08:43
Can see it all ready. Ross hat-trick show them exactly why they couldn't have him. score predictions please. 4-0 MOT. ever the optimist

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2-0 Leeds.Mac and Hunt to score.

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Obviously my crystall ball was wrong

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22 Feb 2014 10:38:48
Middlesboro' haven't scored in their last five games!

Ross scoring five in the last four games

Leeds have only lost one in the last eleven against Midds

Should be a good game!

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We ither get teams that have just changed their manager or haven't won or scored for weeks. In either case we seem to the team that takes the backlash. A draw at best for us but a loss more likely. Hope I am wrong.

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22 Feb 2014 10:33:35
Hiya guys if somehow me manage to get promotion do you think we might go after bulland permanently? And if so how much do you recon he will cost?

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I would hope so if he does well. But isn't there a couple of top 4 prem teams looking at begovic so I suppose it may depend on that. 3-4 mil would be my guess

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We should be going after him anyway with massimo money . Mot

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22 Feb 2014 10:00:25
Absolutely gutted.
Just been told it's not happening on Monday after all.
However I have been invited to meet Massimo tonight and if it goes ahead I will find out much more.
If anyone wants me to ask him a question please let me know.
Jeff

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Why the delay when it was all supposed to be okayed last week, any idea? Problems or what?

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If you can ask him about what he plans to do with Elland Road please

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22 Feb 2014 11:02:45
Cheers mate. Ask him if he will build a new supporters club on the old site.

Tell him to rename Howards restaurant Cellinos, with Italian menu.

Ask him to sort out the terrible bar service in the Kop bars.

Regards MorleyWhite.

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{Ed013's Note - Ask if they will delay the kick off on match days by 5 minutes, I never seem to be able to get that last pint down in time ;-)

Jeff any idea when it will go ahead.

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Transfer budget for summer?

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Do we have any idea why it has been delayed again? Seems just delays by the FL to make sure we are out of
contention this year before any money allowed our way! MOT

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Personally I never could stand the drunk Howard although by accident he did a very good job for Leeds.
Met him at Hanbury Manor in Thunderidge near St Albans one New Year and he made a total fool of himself.
What do you want to call it?
Cantona's?

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Survivor covering his bases now. Takeover done last week. Will be done by monday but now hea gutted itll be longer afterwards.
Yawn yawn yawn

Crmd

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SURVIVOR will get it right have faith, well he has to get it right he's mentioned EVERY week/day until the end of march LOL

Andy MOT

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22 Feb 2014 01:15:32
Give him a break.
It s a rumour site.
No rumours = no site.
Anyway, even those muppets in charge seem unsure when exactly things happen. You keep going Jeff. Yes, you get some things wrong, but you also get a higher percentage right. I don t care if you re "in the know" or just making an educated guess.

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