Leeds Banter Archive June 22 2013

 

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22 Jun 2013 21:14:46
Brett Holman released by villa surely worth a shout

RDLUFC

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He has been released and been signed for al nasr!

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So what if he's been released, dnt mean he will have to drop down a league, he will get another top team.

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22 Jun 2013 17:59:04
We can offered Rowe its called business trying to get the players for less. If they had been a 4milion bid for Gayle then he would of left. You watch and see

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Watch and see?! Would help if we could understand what we have to watch and see!

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22 Jun 2013 19:22:08
Sorry I can't understand a word of this post - Is it a quiz question?

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Thats funny, nolan

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Tuesday

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The iguanas of wrath are wiser than the nostrils of instruction. Or something.

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22 Jun 2013 17:25:47
Noel hunt just scored against me on football manager!

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A Luke Varney hat-trick has just knocked Leeds out of the FA cup on my game.

Mr Happy

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At last, some totally sane, believable posts.

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A Ryan hall free kick smasher just knocked me out of the jp trophy with Wimbledon.

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Original poster here. On fm 2012 I'd actually signed varney but he scored none in the whole season (whilst becchio scored 50) paynter was a similar story. So far FM is looking pretty flipping realistic

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Leeds the greatest team in the world on mine won euro cup three times world cup twice and four prem leagues I did apply to the managers post before B McD took over. Bates missed a trick with me, typical Bates making mistakes

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22 Jun 2013 16:47:28
i think GFH have been quiet because they're not actually in charge yet, up until Bates leaves, then I think we will hear a lot more, they've been subtle with their changes so far

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Dosent ken bates lose chairmanship but then begins being president or joint president?

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Er, what changes would that be then? I think you means sublime, not subtle.

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Im pretty sure he meant subtle not sublime

Crmd

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I think he means both

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What a load of rubbish, GFH own LUFC they can say and do whatever they want and master bates can't do a thing about it so stop making excuses for them!

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Think he meant subliminal. GFH are trying to brainwash us into thinking they are doing something.

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I'd like to join the "what word did he mean" debate with sub-par, but then they did get rid of Warnock so maybe that's not fair.

Mr Happy.

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22 Jun 2013 13:07:38
am I right in thinking that the FA have introduced or are introducing shortly some sort of financial fair play system regarding wages and transfers and clubs overspending beyond thier means.
if this is the case how do we stand. we are supposed to be in the black financially but don't seem to have much more than a few bob to spend on players. I can however see a lot of clubs struggling this year and just hope that the efforts of the last few years to get our house in order now begin to pay off. really hope that BMD gets some sort of backing that he deserves.
come on leeds

yorkie

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Yorkie - spot on mate, they are - And it starts THIS season.

The basics are that a club has to eventually live within it means - and can not be bankrolled by a rich owner (not that we have one!). This season the club is allowed to overspend to a total of 8 million, made up of a 3million loss, and the other 5 million injected by the owner as a form of share issue etc. Although there is ONE loophole - Naming rights to the stadium. Any money gained from this isn't a cash injection as it is seen as a saleable commodity of the club, in the same as a player transfer is! So could see something along the lines of :-

"Monarch Stadium at Elland Road"!

Next season the overall figure lowers to 5 million and so on, until the club eventually runs as a self sustained business. ALL the football clubs have agreed it, and it also starts in the Prem in a season or so time.

There was an interesting article online a while ago from the Brighton owner that really hit the nail on the head - he gave the example of QPR's promotion season a couple of years ago.

To get promoted, they posted a loss of 25.8m pounds. IF the same happened next season, they would be fined 17.8m pounds by the Football League for breaching FInancial Fair Play rules. This fine would then be distributed amongst the other clubs in the league! In effect bankrolling to some extent their rivals promotion bid.

He also stated that Brighton were just about holding their own - and they had to have average home gates of 26. 5k to survive - so our 19. 5k makes our financial position worse!

So, on this basis even if GFH wanted to spend big, they can't. Especially as thanks to Bates 3.3million is already allocated to Ticketus.

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22 Jun 2013 12:35:51
Vaz te west ham?

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Would be a fantastic signing but can't see it happening. BMcD has other plans.

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Lol r you 4 real? he's far 2 good 2 b at leeds and to the guy who said mac has other plans lol well that would only b cus he can't get this guy its not like leeds would turn him down

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Gfh have no money, their backer who was to bankroll the takeover pulled out because master bates and gfh tried to milk him for more cash.
look at the business side of gfh their only asset is leeds united they will not spend money they have not got any. they can't find backers to bolster their business because they have a bad name in the middle eastern community. our only hope is parkin a leeds fan finding backers for his bid. my advice to gfh is to take the best offer you'r out of your depth.

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22 Jun 2013 11:22:37
I have a sneaky feeling that a lot of suspense surrounding potential transfers will be relieved on July 1st. Not only does Ken Bates finally step down as Chairman (if you are to believe GFH-C), but a lot of players contracts run out then or there about (Noel Hunt), paving the way for any 'verbally agreed' deals to become more solid.
Although I feel GFH-C may not give Brian the sorts of figures we would hope, you have to look at their goal and past actions: They want Leeds to get into the PL, this in turn will make for a healthy profit for them due to TV rights etc. On top of that (and directed at you pessimistic 'no money what-so-ever' fans) its was GFH-C that funded NW's signings, maybe not the most inspiring signatures, though Kenny & Pearce cost a rumoured £1.5 mil combined. and that's just 2 of many!
So all in all, chin up Leeds fans, it is only June after all!

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No way did kenny and pearce cost that much, closer to 800k, and let's not forget we sold snoddy, GFH have not spent much if any at all, we even swapped becciho 4 morrison and made 200k, GFH need to engage the fans, you never hear from them at all. they have this window to show ambition or there will be a massive backlash, we have had enough of this kind of transfer policy selling your best players to inturn get freebees and old journey men, not asking for millions just some ambition

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There will be no massive backlash so stop talking rubbish. GFH have done more good for the club in months than Bates did in years. Backlash my ar*e

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I think you will see my friend, a lot of fans have grown fed up with the way the club is being run esp on the way our transfer policy works, what have GFH done exactly, lowered ticket prices, which is great but to be honest they had to do something the gates were getting so low they had to act in some way, they knew that more and more fans were showing their discontent with the club, and 1 last trhing if you think you know so much why is williams and harvey in the same roles as before under bates?, because to me the transfer policy seems to be the same sell off the best players and gety cheap replacements, look forward to your reply,

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If GFH did not have any money why would they have lowered ticket prices by quite a bit which means they have to achieve a 30000 a week average. They know they have to spend a fair bit of money to get these attendances and if they did not have any money to spend they would have brought in a lot of free agents so far. They haven't so how can you say they don't have any money. They probably haven't verbally agreed much deals to pay for either, because they are very cautious with regards to the media and possibly bumping up the price as they showed when they purchased leeds e.g exclusivity periods. I think they will spend a good bit of money on new players and take advantage of the loan and free agents market.

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22 Jun 2013 21:06:31
"or there will be a massive backlash, "

Can you send me your personal details, I've just fallen off a chair laughing and cracked two ribs,

My solicitor will be in touch.

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"and 1 last trhing if you think you know so much why is williams and harvey in the same roles as before under bates?"

May have escaped your notice but Bates is STILL in charge?

Until Bates has gone they will still be here (and I mean totally GONE not president)

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So your saying bates still owns leeds?

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The owners, not The Chairman are in charge of the Cub Bates has no shares and no say in Financial matters apart from offering "advice ", which is why he was retained. Look at Man City and Chelsea, their Chairmen are just figure heads for the Owners.
I just hope they don't take too much advice from him lol.

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"Massive backlash?" Is that kind of kinky fantasy of yours?

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No, massive backlash was a bad choice of words, don't know where it came from to be honest, lol, besides the fans couldn't agree to take any action, they never have even under bates we just seem to put up with the s**t and bates always knew that

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22 Jun 2013 10:57:55
Gfh must be loving that they have no money no football business plan, lied to all of us about everything but its ok because they aren't getting any off the blame because bates is still there to July 1st! Wake up least under bates we knew that we had no hope, gfh are to blame since they have took over they have done nothing

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Are you Salam Patel or David Haighs son or just like making absolute rubbish up. How do you know how much money they have. The window opens in another week let's wait until then and see where we are. As for being no better than Bates, your having a laugh or you know nothing about Leeds Utd. Bates left the club in dire straights, borrowing money against season tickets income, spending money on court cases, selling our best players to balance the books, not investing on the field, the list goes on. Ok GFH don't seem to have much cash but at least give them a chance.

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Oh yea, they must love being broke.
Not much of a 'supporter' are you

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Theyve done nothing? lowered ticket prices? funded players like Jerome Thomas when he came? appointed a brilliant manager rather than a footballing dinosaur? shall I continue?

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They have done gr8, sell snoddy, becchio, said that warnock was there man, he only left because no funds and fan pressure because we was dropping down the table like a brick, spend nothing in the transfer window, let bates stay chairman and let him become president for the next 3 years, keep harvey and williams, must I go on

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22 Jun 2013 21:13:54
" Wake up least under bates we knew that we had no hope, gfh are to blame since they have took over they have done nothing"

Happy little soul aren't you?

When are you going to realise captain birdseye is STILL in charge?

GFH have, at the least, put a date on Bates rule as chairman - so what exactly have YOU done?

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So your trying to say that GFH own us but let bates dictates how the club is run, lol, lol, yeah like you'd buy something and let the last owner tell you how to run it, either gfh own it or bates does that simple, and by the way what exactly have I done?, what the hell you going on about?

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25 Jun 2013 05:15:05
So your saying they have done crap because they sold becchio and snodgrads but they wanted to leave and handed in transfer requests so its not like they wanted to sell them they pretty much had no choice

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22 Jun 2013 10:09:42
All you people saying I was lying about the drenthe to reading and robson kanu to leeds rumour well stage one is complete now!

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Lucky guess. stage two will never happen!

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22 Jun 2013 09:43:24
I live down south but have family up north. They reckon they heard strong rumblings of BMD walking. I don't know exactly how true it is, but would be expected I suppose if he has been promised funds and has been unable to get his targets. Same story wih Colin. Same **** different chairman, different season.

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BMD walking HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. He has just moved to Yorkshire pal and is going nowhere. Where in the north are your family Inverness?

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Same old crap spoted by so called supporters as well, just been reported he's settled up here and expects players to do the same, does that sound like he's ready to walk?, no, I don't think so either, so keep it real or do one.

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Mcdermott has just bought a house up in leeds it sounds to me like he is going to be hear for the long haul both the owners now need to back him

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BMcD signed a three year contract when he was appointed by GFH. are you suggesting that he will walk out on that contract, leaving GFH free to sue him for breach of contract and then use the money to fund new signings?

The fact that your family live "up north" shows that they are the sensible ones. pity some of it didn't rub off.

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22 Jun 2013 09:28:59
Jacob Butterfield, the former Barnsley man is a quality player that knows how to pass a ball. The 23 year old midfielder has just been released from Norwich. Would be a brilliant signing

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Top player if he can get fit again. Take him all day long.

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Agreed, he'd be a great signing. What is it about norwich signing players who were big at their respective clubs, going there and either not getting chance or flopping?! Becchio hasn't had a chance, Butterfield hasnt, simeon Jackson also did well with brisyol (rovers?). The only 1 of real note to work out and stand out like at the clubs they signed from is snoddy in all fairness

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22 Jun 2013 09:23:52
Kevin Doyle speaking on Irish radio yesterday said he probably won't be with Wolves next season and said there were some offers in the pipeline but wasn't prepared to say where. Leeds perhaps?

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Also stated that Leeds is not an option

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22 Jun 2013 07:32:53
Lee Cattermole is now available, not a huge fan but in the same mould as some of our previous players when we were challenging for honours. Tough tacking little fella with good ball distribution. Been lacking that since the days of Batty.
Probably couldn't afford to pay him but if they is a few quid down the back of the boardroom sofa then could be just what we need (oh and a creative attacking midfielder to play along side him, a prolific striker, a nippy winger and a couple of defenders!)
Harrogate Rob

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Would love Cattermole!

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We'd need about 3 extra mids for cover when he gets sent off every other week

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He gets sent off 1 in 3 games

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You mean there's someone worse than Brown?

Are you sure?

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He played in the same youth team as my lad in Boro, he was a Psyco even then and even his mates won't go out with him because they know he will always get in bother. A great player wasted by his attitude and temprement. If he could change he would play for England.

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22 Jun 2013 01:01:17
I got this feeling that there is no money ok mabey a little but nothing to get excited about prob one of the poorer bugets in the league. Also think GFH are good guys really with a proper plan to get us back to prem as soon as possible but bates is still sucking all the money out of the club as GFH probaly still owe him money for takeover and as chairman he will treat us as a profitable business with no pride or passion in taking us to the next level but striping us of all our assets before he's gone. Don't worry guys he will be gone soon so things will get a lot better in GFH and McDermott we trust.

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