Leeds Banter Archive November 22 2011

22 Nov 2011 22:27:34
Leeds should fine Andy O’Brien 12 months wages!!

Totally agree, good management from SG, no messing, simple statement move on.

One thing for sure I wouldn't pay him another penny! It's an insult to anyone attached to the club and fans if he does?

Yet again this highlights the difference between the Real World and the one that footballers live in.

If I refused to come to work, I wouldn't get paid. Simple as. Why does this not apply here? Surely it's a breach of contract, you sign a deal to be fit and available to play in return for a wage per week most of us work 10-12 months for?

Or am I looking at it too simplistically? {Ed003's Note - Sounds about right to me }

The problem for Leeds with O'Brien is AOB wants Leeds to terminate his contract so he is free to join another club. How does that benefit Leeds? Especially if it's West Ham? Leeds want a transfer fee but will they get one? 6 weeks to go before the window opens. Can Leeds tell him not to bother coming into training? Can the parties put up with each other for 6 weeks? The real problem is that Bates is wrong when he talks about O'Brien being an employee. Footballers haven't really been employees since Bosman. They are assets...or liabilities and are treated as such. What employee at any other company can march into his boss' office and say pay me more money, speak to this middleman to sort it out (my agent) otherwise I am off to work for one of your rivals and major competitors? You try that at work anywhere else and you're gone within 5 seconds but at Championship and Premiership football clubs it's alright dialogue and makes management consider things. All Leeds can do is fine him several weeks' wages, he'll still train with the lads and we just gotta hope by New Year Fat Sam comes in with a couple hundred grand to take him off us.

22 Nov 2011 14:34:21
do we stil have the same scouts who saw snodders,,beckford,becchio or did they leave with big mac as alot of signings grayson has made have been pap, i know gradel was a good find but we aint exactly been bringing in the goods. gimple seems a good find but wouldnt know as he aint been given the chance yet, he chose us over top prem teams as he was assured a better chance at 1st team football, if he is that good im sure he would answer a defensive crisis prob. if we dont play him he mut up sticks and go elsewhere, john terry was 17

John terry wasn't guaranteed first team til around 21, and then he was desailly's understudy for a bit.

Speaking of defensive problems,guess who was in goal last night in a behind closed doors match against a strong Blackpool side,yes,rachubka,apparently he had a blinder keeping a clean sheet in a 2-0 win,hope this doesnt tempt SG in giving him another go in first team,hell of a difference between the pressures of playing at Elland Rd before a full house,and a handful of spectators,funny game innit.

Thought it was 3-1?

22 Nov 2011 12:29:48
Great result for us at the weekend. Although i still think we are missing something. I reckon we should get back Kilgallon and Licaj then sign a quality midfielder to rotate with Howson & Clayton (player of season so far). Someone with a bit of strength and height. Any ideas anyone? MOT

Sammy clingan for me all day he is the man we need desperatley

Wish people would stop going on about clingan hes poor,look at coventrys pos,need a goal scoring midfielder,clingan doesnt know were his own goal is mot.

We dont need a goalscoring midfielder at all! What games do you watch? Pugh, clayton and snoddy score enough and howson can easily score loads in a different formation.
It's precisely a defensive midfielder we need-a batty type winning,collecting and distributing just outside our box-we have been crying out for this player for probably a decade now-can't you all see? If it's clingan then go for him. Even vinny jones did a job!

We need a big centre midfielder who's mobile and can tackle..like Johnson but more technically gifted

Like B Jhonson yet more technical .Have you got a spare 5 million doing nothing ,cos that's watt that type off player would cost .I cant see us spending 1 million plus on a player until we are back in the promised land .But I did sense a bit off urgency in bates coments that we have to be promoted this year .I would not be surprised if we spent a bit in January say a million on 2 players 500k apiece ,Hope Grayson told him this when they had meeting last week .he deffo standing up to bates a bit ,the commentator said that he asked Simon about promotion this year and he said all owners want more but I have spent very little on players but we have spent a lot on the ground .Surely he knew it would be said during comentry live on tv maybe at last Simon is telling him to get real

Seyi Olifinjana from Hull. Fallen out with the club, rots in their reserves, quality beast of a cm