Leeds Banter Archive February 23 2014

 

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23 Feb 2014 22:59:07
Just watching MOTD2 how good is Snodgrass, god I wish he was still a Leeds player!

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Good goal but he wasn't anything special yday, I watched the whole game. He's far to slow although i'd still love him here

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23 Feb 2014 22:12:03
Stewart is horrific! far too lightweight, loses posession far too often and looks out of his depth.

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He does have quick feet and if he can use them a lot more often then he cld be alright. So far both wingers have had stinkers

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I think he needs to be a bit more risky

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Give them time judge them next season

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23 Feb 2014 21:27:35
Anyone else think we should have a look at Ariyibi? Even have him on the bench. He can't be as bad as Kebe, atleast he's our player. Disappointed not to see him on the bench lately

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Yes I've been wondering the same. Surely he's worth putting on for the last 20 minutes of a game. It'll give competition to the other wingers and make them up their game to keep a regular starting place

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23 Feb 2014 18:12:35
Talk is cheap so they say so no more posts till I spend much of tomorrow with Mr M C.
He's wanting a house in Leeds and has asked me to help.
Got to say if he's spending that much cash on a home he's here for the long run.

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Did you meet up yesterday and when will this deal be finally done the football league are killing me. kevlufc. ps thanks for all the info so far.

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He was in new Ellington on York place last night having a meal, we spoke to him for 5 mins, said he didn't think we were a good team at all, he would bring lots of players and ideally he wants the training ground within 2 miles of elland rd-that's a genuine conversation not a rumour, I am sure other Leeds fans will vouch he was there-when we left there was a group of 5 lads talking to him

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I must say that if I was a multi millionaire I would choose advisers that were discrete and didn't post my business on the internet!!

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23 Feb 2014 20:40:31
Is that before you start your own radio station and after youve set up your rumours site? Busy boy me think or living in a dream world!

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Survivor. Why do you always post your ego boosting "news" but never respond on other comments. Many people have replied to you but get no response even though you are clearly reading and posting on other parts of the site.

Why does Cellino trust you to find him a house?

If I was him, I'd have a team of advisers, lawyers or even send my kids house hunting. They are quite adept at promoting themselves on /instagram and getting around Leeds I'm sure they could find daddie a house.

Crmd

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Cellino said in interview he is going to rent an apartment in Leeds not buy a house!

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23 Feb 2014 15:35:12
Great buisness getting jack butland what a difference It makes having a keeper who will come off his line and collect the ball! Well done who ever made that happen. Get rid of kenny not a patch on butland and let's build from him mot

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23 Feb 2014 19:04:31
Were not going to keep butland haha stoke bought him for future they won't sell

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Were a much bigger fish than Stoke. Its high time we started throwing our weight about. He is 3rd choice and unless Begovic gets sold to a top European side he won't get a game their. I d love him here.

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Butland will not want to be 3rd choice keeper at Stoke for the next 2 or 3 season especially when he wants to play for England. Money talk and Cellino must of be happy with what saw of Butland yesterday

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You're right he won't want to stay third choice at Stoke. that's why top teams will be after both him and Begovic in the summer. one of them will leave to a club in europe. the other will stay.

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23 Feb 2014 15:30:21
My player ratings vs Boro

Butland - Brilliant debut. Made two very very good saves. Confidently came and collected crosses and communicated well with the back four. Only negative is we probably will not sign him permanently.

Peltier - His forward play is improving. Still looks a bit suspect with his defensive positioning. A few times he played counter attacks onside. Adequate back up for Byram

Pearce - Really improved this season. If McCormack was to get injured Pearce would be my captain. Very solid performance. Didn't take risks. Great closing down on a butterfield shot.

Wooton - Solid enough. Silly booking but a much better performance than last time out. Better suited to a back 4 instead of a back 3. Could benefit from more game time.

Warnock - Did well getting forward but looked suspect defending. Too slow and was exposed by quick wingers. Nearly scored an own goal. With Cellino attempting to sign Avelar (a left back) and Charlie Taylor drawing plaudits at Fleetwood, I would not expect Warnock to be a regular next season.

Kebe - Second half he started beating players but his distribution was awful. He constantly lost possession and added nothing to our attack. I was excited when Kebe signed, but he hasn't delivered and the excuses of lacking match fitness are not applicable now.

Austin - Poor performance. His passing constantly went astray and had he played a semi decent ball into McCormack's path we may have won? He is too inconsistent and I can't see why he is constantly a first team starter. Should be dropped in favour of Mowatt.

Murphy - Didn't see much of him in the first half. Second half (especially the last 20 minutes) I thought he was an unsung hero, constantly getting stuck into challenges and never giving up chasing the man on the ball. He gets undeserved stick from some fans. He suits a defensive midfielder role more than a playmaker.

Stewart - Needs to get in to the game more. 1 brilliant cross that Hunt should have finished but he didn't really do much more to be honest.

McCormack - Didn't have a chance to get into the game. One chance that he overran but not his fault he wasn't getting the service. Was getting frustrated, but we know what he is capable of.

Hunt - No one will deny that he does a lot of running but he needs to score his chances. Should have made contact with Stewarts cross although he was impeded (I have seen penalties given in similar situations). His header from Ross' cross was abysmal. Smith would have buried that.

Smith - We looked better once he came on. He needs to be careful regarding his physicality especially when the referee is a t****r, otherwise he risks getting sent off again.

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Yeh but what about BMD - Rubbish again!?

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Bet you wasnt saying the same thing about mcdermott just a few week ago was you now its funny really how many fickle fans come on here and moan when we don't play well or lose where were you all when we were winning what happend to sticking by the manager through thick and thin like brian has come on don't you think its about time you stopped moaning and started supporting in brian I trust.

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Murphy for at least the last month has been getting better by the game what a lot of fans seem to forget his he came from a small club in crewe to join leeds united it was always going to take time to settle in you can now see the lad has quality reminds of a sheridan type player like to get on the ball and spray it about

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Say what you like, but the weakest link at Leeds at the moment is BMD. I was one of the happy few that was glad when he was sacked, yes he's a nice bloke and all that crap but he's not a football manager, poor tactics, signings, subs etc. and at the end of this season you will see that when he get's the bullet. again!

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End of the season! He has to go NOW!

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Yes I will say what I like fans like you make out like you know what's best your alright saying get rid of mcdermott but you never mention any names that can replace him no one certainly without a club would do better and before you say malky mackay how much money did he waste at cardiff like I said you get no where chopping and changing managers time for you to get a grip and do what supporters are suppose to do support the manager true leeds fans no what i'm talking about.

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You say mcdermott isn't a good manager take a look at his record over the years at reading his signings that he spotted long and le fondre etc one season he took them to the play off final the next season after that he then wins the league poor manager I very much doubt it he is more than up for the leeds job.

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Murphy is the brunt of some unfair critism as he has improved lately, one of our best performers yesterday, if he chased and harried opposition every game be star turn.

I sometimes wonder if Austin would be better at CB?
Noël Hunt didn't have a bad game yesterday and he looked a lot more comfortable and confident, I think he will turn out to prove doubters wrong.

Like some say McD is a nice bloke and honourable, but tactics and performances are down to him. Many players appear to lack confidence or a desire to want the ball as if fearful of making errors. Was yesterday's brief to the players "don't lose today the new owners watching".

IMO we have a decent squad and with some quality additions in MF centre, wing, GK, and LB and a good CB.
Wish a had the answers!

MOT

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Think about this:

McDermott has done what Laudrup did, he rode his luck on a team set up by Bendan Rodgers when he was at Reading. You say he spotted Long and Le fondre. Eamonn Dolan (Reading coach) was the one who found out about Long (and Kevin Doyle) from his brother and anyone with half a brain could tell Le Fondre was a quality striker - just look at his goal to game ratio.
He has one promotion to his name. Neil Warnock had six, but it doesn't mean you're going to be successful.
I myself was happy when he was sacked, because we could have brought in Malky McKay, who is a far better manager.

M.O.T bk to the premiership

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McKay was a nice thought but I expect if and when BMC is sacked Festa will come in with no experience and will bring in 5 Cagliari reserves. JD

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Maybe the fans should look at themselves re why players don't seem to want the ball rather than blaming everyone else, confidence is the biggest thing in football you can't buy yet we seem set on destroying nearly every player who pulls on the shirt and doesn't perform immediately. Leeds fans really are incredible judges, Stewart and kebe were given a game before they started getting slaughtered and were deemed bad signigns, Butland is incredible after one game, what happens if he drops a clanger next week will we want him out. Remember everyone's hero our captain took almost a whole season to score his first goal for the club and looked uninterested and unfit that first season but because results had been ok overall in our first year back we gave him a chance, remember the days when every single player had their name sung by the Kop before kick off, maybe we can do more to help the team and management because turning up just to have a go s pointless.

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23 Feb 2014 15:02:19
please tel bm that jimmy kebe is no good for
The team it's like playing with 10 men
Every time he plays, what about the subs
Poleon he has pace and can go by players
Kebe can't go by himself without tripping up
I. Think bm has lost the plot we should of
Battered Middlesborough easy didn't even bring
Poleon on bye bye bm the sooner the better

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Get of mcdermotts back cannot believe some of the comments I see like this wanting him to go its was never going to be a quick fix how many more times do you need telling we need stability doesn't 10 managers in as many years tell you anything I for one am still behind brian you only need to look at that reading side now and see how well they are doing there all his signings doesn't that also tell you owt.

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Yes I have to agree mate kebe is almost a waste of a number when someone else could ave been on mith on too late

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23 Feb 2014 19:10:58
Get off mc Dermotts back wow u think
He's doing a great job remember 6 0
Shefield Wednesday mate diamond
Formation and didn't change anything at
Half time like everyone said he's got to change
Formation as this one is not working, It that good management that is like yesterday Middlesborough made 3 changes we made 1 fresh legs We needed change of tacked but no Keep it as it is what a joke u think kebe is
Good then u must be watching diff game mate

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Seem to remember at half time against Wednesday he put the big fella on it lasted about a minute. I suppose in your eyes that was B McD s fault as well.
DP

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23 Feb 2014 21:31:23
Ok not going to argue great result and great
BMD he brought big fella on and made a great
Deal of diff what was score 6 0 buy buy

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23 Feb 2014 21:34:16
Oh yeh big fella was only on for 2 mins
And he didn't change formation Wake up
Mate

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He wasn't on for long enough to see if the formation had changed you have made your mind up that BMcD is no good so perhaps try taking the blinkers off.

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23 Feb 2014 14:04:15
Has anyone ever thought that cellino might wait till the summer to sell cagliari so we can sign their best player like astroi and ibarbo cheap because he is still their owner and he can agree on the transfer fee leeds pay cagliari.like cagliari turned down 15m for ibarbo but we could get him for 1m because of cellino.(people's thoughts)also cellino a son said we were in for adryan, ibarbo and astroi from cagliari.

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23 Feb 2014 14:35:20
The club was nearly sold not so long ago but the sale fell through. If I was buying the club I would ensure that there was a no sale deal in place for contracted players! Unless a deal was done to include those players of course! Just my thoughts but you would have to be mad to buy a club that had been ripped of its best players!

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GFH are mad then because they bought us when we had been ripped of our best players!

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First poster with no logic there. Ok saying he decides not to sell cagliari until then. Why would he pay any money for those players. They turned down 15mil. Why would he pay 1million. He would accept a fee of 20p and a mars bar. Why waste money. Think!

Crmd

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23 Feb 2014 19:16:10
Does not make it right and does not mean others will put up with that type of behaviour! Don't get me wrong I would love to see some additions to the squad but let's not count our chickens.

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Crmd I'm only saying 1m for the sake of it I know we could pay 20p for him but he could also pay 100m because he owns cagliari therefore he would be only transferring money from one of he's accounts to another so he woultned be wasting money

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23 Feb 2014 13:36:26
Took my son to his first game yesterday and was totally gutted we couldn't buy tickets to sit with the Leeds fans and therefore had to sit with the Boro lot :-(

It was hard to sit there and not cheer for my team but the overall plus point of the day is that my son asked me to NEVER sit with the other team again!

He also met some top lads on the train back who made him feel like one of them and he gave them all the Leeds salute when we left the train. they gave him a BIG cheer and he loved it!

Hats off to those guys :-)

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Nice one, I always remember taking my son to his first game it was a night match at ER and when he walked in the smile on hi face will live with me forever. MOT
DP

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23 Feb 2014 12:49:43
Survivor/Jeff, did you meet Massimo last night? Seen no mention of it, so either bad news or it did not happen. Any update on the T/O confirmation by the FL? With you all the way on your recent posts though.

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23 Feb 2014 12:07:16
I've backed Bmd all the way, I've also hung onto the hope that the players can take us forward (not necessarily into the premiership) but I've had to have a reality check.
Defensive wise yesterday we looked ok, but boro can't hit a cows behind
Midfield - wow they are clueless, no composure, no running off ball which is why our defense is always hitting it long. Don't blame warnock or lees for hitting it long, it's our midfield.
Wingers are giving width but that's about it.
Mac and smith work well together, and I honestly think them two can do some damage with a decent midfield.
Here's hoping to next season (ive said that around this time every year)
Onwards and upwards

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We need a better striker than Smith. Even Ross struggles in one on one situations. Need someone up top with raw pace and someone in the mold of Somma

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23 Feb 2014 11:45:20
Can you imagine a WANTED column in the National Press;

A personable person (Male or Female) to manage, on a daily basis, a high profile household name in the Sports and Entertainment business.

Evidence of management of over egoed male "sports" personalities is a must;

Team building essential however, there is no budget available to improve the team building, you may be allowed (under strict circumstances) to bring in other team players to bolster your team but if the board won't sanction the loan then tough!, get on with it;

You get to choose the 16 "sports" personalities that you genuinely believe will deliver goods over a ninety minute period, if they don't deliver then you could be sacked without question or compensation;

identification of others strengths and weaknesses a must, some team members will believe that they owe the company nothing and will therefore not deliver the results demanded of by you and our customer base however, you are ultimately responsible, the fact that the board will not sanction purchases of improvements to the team is not their responsibility;

not your usual 9 - 5, Monday to Friday job;

National and Multi-National customer base, 30,000 (at a stretch) local regular customers;

Salary according to results;

If the board dislike the results; OR the players you select don't perform; OR the customer base displays signs of dissatisfaction; OR OR OR your contract will be terminated with immediate effect;

"We" the Board, the Company, the Players, the customer base do not expect you to remain within the job forever and will expect you to either resign or be sacked within the next twelve months.

All serious applications welcome!



Well really, would you?

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Most positions that pay the salary the BMD is on will have exactly the same pressures.

The fact is that we looked clueless again yesterday. We were told that BMD liked to play football on the floor with possession, passing and movement off the ball.

If my under 12s played the way we played yesterday (and for most of the games I have been to home and away this season) I would have been disappointed.

The problem with BMD is that his team are not showing any signs of development. Even with poorer players, they can still be coached to pass the ball to each other. We seem incapable of stringing even two passes to feet together.

I'd love to see him succeed but I he needs to show us some progress.

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23 Feb 2014 13:32:52
You forgot to mention if you sign a five year contract and get dismissed after five weeks you'll still get your contract paid in full!

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For the money haha damn right I would

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Whats clear for all to see is the players are obviously not doing what there been told to do I've watched mcdermotts sides in the past and they get at teams with pace from the wide areas I've said it plenty of times brian needs more time he will get it right be a disgrace to get rid of him

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23 Feb 2014 10:34:31
I am just a dreamer but not the only one.
A blind man(sorry if I offended anyone)can see we are poor with occasional flashes of decent.
BMD is a very honest man but he isn't the right man for Leeds United but fair play Brian please keep trying and prove me wrong.
We need much better.
Better players.
Better tactics.
More passion on and off the park.
In Massimo I trust to turn us round for everyone's sake.
We know by his reputation he's a tricky guy but he understands football and knows how to look after his money.
We need some great signings ASAP and to get rid of players who are only 'here for the money'
Jeff

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I am delighted that Cellino in taking over, I had been a supporter of BMc and I was a bit surprised when he was sacked but I do think we need to replace him, I try to stay positive about our team and performances but I am a little concerned we are going to slip back in to the situation we had last year when dropping in to the relegation zone became a reality. Are we good enough to avoid that situation again this season as a feel we will not make the play offs unless we can bring in 4-5 quality players on loan.

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We are an average team Survivor, in a difficult league. Looking at the form guide table we have been a mid-table outfit consistently except our good run leading up to christmas which put us top of current form. We are averaging around 6 - 9 points every 6 games so as we have 15 games left I think we should on current form history this season pick up around another 18 - 20 points this season. If this happens we should get the points required to be safe - this season is finished in terms of playoffs.

Survivor, you say Cellino likes to look after his money, why is he buying a football club again. Owning a football club is clearly not cheap (unless you do nowt with it). I hope Cellino has deep pockets for Leeds United and is ready to spend and invest because that is what Leeds United needs - no more false promises and big talk.
You don't come into football ownership to make money if you make promises of competing with the boys at the big table.

If Cellino backs up his ideas with his money, he will have my support.
I was one of the 'no to Massimo' brigade following the farcical deadline day drama. But hey ho, he is the man who has shown his money and stated how he intends to transform our club taking us back into the international stage of football. So Get this takeover done FL.

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23 Feb 2014 10:21:17
So cellino's son say that Monday could be a big day for the club, hope so,, I hope takeover is done next week so we can get more quality loan signing like butland,, mot

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