24 Jul 2012 20:55:53
Id say takeover is completed already but will not be announced till transfer window closes why would they do it and put the asking price for their targets up unnecessarily ?? Just a taught but who cares once we are singing quality players again !!! Yippee Mikeire
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24 Jul 2012 20:44:05
NW spoke of 3/4 targets, this should be enough to fill in the jigsaw, so from what he has bought so fa, I think the following will arrive:
1 x right back
1 x central midfielder 9 one who can play)
1 x Top quality goal scorer
things still to happen with current squad,
All transfer listed players to be sold/loaned out
Ross McCormack to depart, paving the way for the major striker above.
I unknow is Snodgrass, i personaly dont think its the offer anymore, i think Snodgrass has been given the option, to stay...or go, if he goes expect all the funds to be used on another midfielder/winger.
I think NW now having secured Adie white, may use AW in snodgrass postion, could be exciting.
Squad should be completed by end of next week, giving NW 2 full weeks before the first cup game.
24 Jul 2012 20:34:11
tbh im starting to wonder weather the takeover is done becuase where is all the money coming from leicster wanted atleast 1 mil for pltier and brann 2 mil for austin so who knows
Where did you get 2 million for Austin from?
JB
24 Jul 2012 20:28:53
Takeovers taking it's time! Players are flooding in.
24 Jul 2012 20:10:38
Heard this over the weekend and not sure whether its true or not, apparently Snodgrass has had discussions with Warnock and the potential new owners and stated that he is prepared to stay at Leeds until January and then he can exercise his option to sign a new improved contract or leave . The condition he has put on this is that Leeds have to be in the top 6 and challenging for auto promotion and significant investment has to be made if required at that time, is it me or does that sound like a player that thinks he is better than the club or is it Warnock trying to keep him on side.
StuW MOT
Snodgrass isn't the owner! Since when does he call the shots?
ConnorMOT!
If this is true I say fair play.
The lad has ambition and like us fans is fed up with departures and signings in recent years. It's a short career and it's natural to want to secure your life including after retirement
White teeth
I'd have told him to f**k off personally but I don't think this is the case. A little bit of exaggeration and a bit of the Chinese whispers perhaps.
I can't believe that NW is the kind of man that would be held to ransom like this.
JB
24 Jul 2012 19:37:20
Will people wise up varney has been bought to play wide is work rate reminds me of dirk kuyt he will also chip in with some important goals ...kevlufc
Could not agree more. He'll cut inside which should create opportunities for overlapping full-backs.
24 Jul 2012 19:36:05
just a thought but why not give poleon a chance this season in pre seasons couple of matches he looks quick and sharp and no worse than past strikers could be a star I reckon
He deserves his chance but realistically I can see a loan spell for him first.
Could be a star looked brilliant pre season, and his pace is frightening.....kevlufc
24 Jul 2012 19:17:45
Commented on a post earlier about Nicky Maynard, but seriously hope these rumours about us being interesting and making a bid are true. Such a good player in my eyes, saw him play for Crewe against us at Elland Road a few seasons ago and he looked lethal - been a favourite of mine since.
He's a finisher, with decent pace, exactly what we need. Praying that we're seeing him in a white shirt next season..
JS LUFC
24 Jul 2012 18:51:13
Looks like the trips up to ER from Stoke will be made with real optimism this year, and the trips back could be happy for a change! MOT in Warnock we trust.
24 Jul 2012 18:57:28
Is it just me or am I not alone in not being very excited by Leeds UTD's signings so far?!
They all look like risky buys with a chequered history of 'sometimes a hit' but more often than not 'a miss'!
I hope these last few icing on the cake signings are something to get excited about as if Snodgrass is going our squad looks very average indeed as things stand
Read Ne comment - "we still need the icing on the cake"
Nw knows we are not good enought yet he also says it's been one of the hards summers ever.
MOT
24 Jul 2012 18:57:02
Glad we finally no how the secret investors are......... The west Yorkshire police service
24 Jul 2012 18:49:28
Just my thoughts here, Warnock has signed players and only 1 appear to be for a fee, I believe that Due diligence will completed shortly but the investment will kick in once promoted to PL, Warnock has clearly stated that he wants a shot at one more promotion to the PL then he will call it quits, if this is true then a new manager will be in charge next season once back in PL with the investment to spend
Dan Flan Chester White MOT
24 Jul 2012 18:37:21
Anyone think White could be the new Gradel?
Insufficient skill.
Absolutely not! White has fantastic pace- should be in team GB this summer but that's about it.
Gradel had pace, tricks, knew when to go down and could find the net regularly.
Of all those recent years departures he is the one most missed
White teeth
White plays for the ROI - Last time i looked it wasnt in GB
KTJ - Abu Dhabi
24 Jul 2012 18:27:23
This is who I want for the final four. Peltier McGugan Templeton and Maynard.
I know this means no Norris no Beckford but I prefer McGugan over Norris. He's younger. As much as I like Beckford, Maynard is the better player.
Still feel even with those signings we are 1 just 1 player short. In the centre half position. Unless much mistaken in reality we only got Kissa for cover unless Gimple is ready. Bromby isn't back until New Year and won't be at the peak of his game til presumably Easter 2013 so we need 1 more central defender in my opinion. We get McGugan and Templeton wouldn't want to go up against our midfield including our midfield from the bench which would look a bit tasty to me.
MOT
24 Jul 2012 17:58:40
Varney and Austain deals done
source ssn
24 Jul 2012 17:46:09
not very likely we will get a pacey striker like maynard because warnocks type of striker is someone big and can win headers who plays upfront on there own.
WILLLUFC
24 Jul 2012 17:32:41
Leeds Ins and outs
Outs:
McCormack
Conolly
O'Brien
Paynter
Ins:
Peltier (likely)
Halford (could see it happening)
Cranie (likely)
Maynard (probable but we'll have to up our bid)
Templeton (could see it happening but only with takeover funds)
Russell (unlikely but interest shown)
If we get a few of these targets and with colins magic touch, it'll be leeds v man united next season! MOT
BURLEYwhite
24 Jul 2012 17:29:22
I have just heard that the takeover has actually been completed...there have been funds circa £4million made available so far for Warnock, which is evidently his fighting fund at the minute. Town are pulling out of the Peltier deal which is leaving it wide open for us according to a Town fan i know (claims he is mates with Graysons agent)...MOT!!
Youngie!
24 Jul 2012 17:14:33
I must admit I wasnt impressed with Leeds signing Gray and Ashdown although I understand they will probably act as cover. Overall NW has brought in consistent and hard working players. They may not be the cream of the talent but they will certainly give 100%.
For free signings they are about as good as you are going to get. Ashdown will probably be hardly used. Funny how we have 2 keepers whose names amalgamated together form Paddy Ashdown. Gray will come off the bench and will hopefully bag 10 league goals which will help.
Also funny we have brown,white,green and gray!
24 Jul 2012 17:03:55
Looks like we aren't signing Maynard as he is set to sign for west brom
24 Jul 2012 16:16:52
Gk kenny-ashdown
Rb (peltier)-lees
Cb Pearce - ( ? ) - kisnorbo - lees
Lb drury - white - Pugh
Cdm Austin - brown
Cm green - ( ? )
Lw varney - white - rogers - Pugh
Rw snodgrass - rogers
St becchio - McCormack - somma - Gray - paynter -( ? )
With peltier as a target. If we get him we have cover for most areas. Does anyone else think these are the most likely positions for these supposed ( excellent signings) warnock has stated he will be aiming for. Another centre half, central midfield cover for green. Hopefully more of a creative type. And a pace striker. If it all happens we would have a really strong squad. Starting to get excited.
For the striker I'm thinking Maynard or dj Campbell
The central midfield player could be buzsaky.
I'm struggling to think of a decent centre half. I feel like we've missed out on a few really good ones so far.
Anyone got any ideas??
Whiterose1919
Probably Martin Cranie, he's on trial with us at the moment
Cranie?
As stated before we missed out on what I believe to be the best free signing for any championship side this season for his position and thats Zak Whitbread, I've always been a huge fan of his, from his Millwall days right through to Norwich last season and he was available for free this summer, maybe I am being a bit harsh and maybe we did put in some form of offer but if we didn't I'd like to know why! MOT SussexLeeds
24 Jul 2012 16:40:58
Message to Snoddy
If you decide to go you go with my best wishes.But seriously this is so the wrong time to leave us. Things are definitely happening here. We are a potential top six side and it might happen sooner than you think. Norwich are definitely not and never will be
24 Jul 2012 16:23:15
I think Nunez could be our taarabt why isn't he being given the chance
Have you ever seen Nunez play? If you had you wouldn't have posted this comment.
Got the skill. Not the strength. He'd be a winger in the Championship. We don't need any more. There's better in front of him. Varney Snods Rogers. His best position is in the hole behind the striker but he doesn't have the physique to pull that off at Championship level. However, he'd destroy teams in this role in League One. Best to sell him my opinion.
24 Jul 2012 16:09:30
To all those still complaining about the quality of Neil Warnocks signings and, now that the takeover it appears will be announced shortly were expecting the new owners to splash the cash big style, with big name signings, do you really expect quality prem players to sign for us now, when there is absolutely no guarentee we will get promoted next year. Neil Warnock is building a team to get us out of the Championship, when we achieve that goal then watch the big name players start to arrive at Elland Road. Spanishwhite
24 Jul 2012 14:39:42
I really hope that Norris signs for us because we need his quality playmaking in our midfield
I'd prefer Buzsacky for that role over Norris.Pity we didn't go for Whitbread aswell
IMO,NW has given his biggest clue yet on the takeover situation stating,he feels the crucialsignings are yet to come,possibly or more,big name signings he called them,which dont come cheap,a clear indication the money will shortly be available to buy these players,good times are just around the corner.
Hi, yes a good player and seems like a decent sort. He along with Halford and Huseklepp at least showed to Pompey fans that they are aware of not only the problems the club are facing, but that they are aware of what it means to those who pay their wages.
No matter who may or may not have shown any compassion to Leeds when we went through what we did, and not withstanding how the goombas at Portsmouth voted about our points deductions, it is a plague that should not be visited on any fans house, regardless of who they support.
To me, these are the sort of players who are welcome at the club I follow any day, and they also happen to be quite good.
tRip
Norris would be nice because presumably Green and Austin will be first choice CM's with Brown and Norris as backup perhaps or maybe Norris will go elsewhere in search of first team football...
JenksLeeds
Mcgugan from forest would be a better signing. The lad is class.
24 Jul 2012 14:30:26
having a debate on just want to get opinions, would you rather see leeds play what people may call 'boring' football similar to Stoke, being defensively solid and using a lone tall striker and getting 3 points, or playing slick fluid football n risk losing due to a counter attack?
i know which one id rather have if it got us 3 points
I think NW will actually get us playing some attractive football with the signings already made & the players we are being linked with.QPR were a good side when they got promoted and there weren't many people claiming they were boring. I believe that most realistic fans want the best of both worlds where the games we need to dig in we are able to and when we need to play attractive football against the poorer teams that we can also do this. We do need our very own Adel Taarabt(sp) thogh
We need to be defensive but not that defensive 1 as striker no thanks . you only play like that against better teams and were the best so no need to play that way.
we need to be quick on the counter attack like grayson had us playing .
4-4-2 maybe 4-3-3
46 boring 1-0 please {Ed020's Note - i second that}
3 points all day long get us back to pl anyway possible
I would like to see us stick to the attractive attacking football that we sometimes displayed BUT backed up with a solid back four, a hard working midfield, comfortable with the ball, with a view to us cutting down the conceded goals this season, that alone will probably net us an extra 20-30 points.
If Grayson had managed to sort the back four out we would have been in the playoffs on both the last two years tbh
Excroggywhite, MOT
Strange, Made an honest none offensive reply to this thread and the Ed's have not deemed it worthy of display. How come Ed?
Excroggywhite {Ed003's Note - No idea mate}
Will take any style of play that gets us back to the premiership. Then is the time to turn the style on.........
Why are the options crap football and winning or good football and losing? Call me spoilt but I dont think that having a football team that entertains and wins football games is too much to ask for. Why settle for one or the other?
24 Jul 2012 08:48:35
Can not believe that due diligence is taking this long!.
May be potential owners are waiting for the court case Leeds has with the police to be sorted out!.
I was just about to say that about the court case myself. It's looked all along that papa smurf has been clearing the decks/debts so that the club could be sold without any outstanding problems. ( I personally think that TA and ER were in his wife's name)
Lets hope that the take over will be soon in going through.
I'd also like to say that some of the players that NW has brought in might not be that good in some people's eyes. However, I think that the team he's building is far superior to the one that was here at this time last year. Give him a chance of building a 'team' to get us in the premiership and get behind this team. If some of the players are c**p then we can all see that NW is only human like the rest of us and makes the odd mistake. We are Leeds and we should be proud of it!
Court case now over, and won. Nothing holding them back now
How many times do we have to post that ER & TA ARE NOT owned by bates but Jacob Adler or his offshore SPVs!
I'd say takeover is completed already but will not be announced until transfer window is closed why put your targets price up ?
24 Jul 2012 08:36:13
Does Dominic Poleon deserve a crack this season possibly off the bench? impressive pre-season
Woody LUFC
Well he has certainly been prolific, yes against lower league teams but you still have to get in position and apply the finish him and gray have both scored the same amount of goals however yet most fans have been slating that he has signed gray for nothing.
He will be off on loan
Gray is the best signing yet his expieriance and passion for everything leeds will rub off well on younger players honestly was a bit worried bout new season and warnocks plans in general nut can finally see his plans coming togethor and i think if rumours regarding peltier norris templeton and maynard signing are true we will be very difficult to beat BrianMOT
24 Jul 2012 08:21:20
Did Snodgrass not say last season that he would stay if Leeds showed some ambition that matched his in the transfer market..?
Well 4 signings and 4 more coming before Friday Snodgrass isn't that good enough for you
1) Watson/ McGugen?
2) Maynard/ Beckford?
3) Halford/ Peltier?
4) Templeton?
A far better team than last season and you have the option of retaining captain..!
Top 2 team on my card Snodders
Woody LUFC
Exactly! Kenny commented when he signed, that knowing the players Warnock was going to recruit he was convinced we'd be up there. So what you waiting for Snodgrass?
24 Jul 2012 07:52:20
And if I told you all where this came from, I don't think I'd get any more 'speculation' for all you to slate and attempt to ruin :o) {Ed001's Note - that is my pet hate, people asking for sources! Judge info on how accurate it is, that is the true test of the source. The whole point of the anonymity of the sites, is that people can keep their sources to themselves and continue to get info from them in the future.}
Why do some editors ask the same question then? {Ed020's Note - because if we have'nt heard about it, then usually its something that someone has thought up of, and we'd just like clarity of that.}
Take your point on that (source secrecy) but most post are read then forgotten in 24hrs or so and the poster forgotten by and large, so a good compromise would be for ed to place an accuracy rating by regular posters, ie, very reliable, reliable, or unreliable. no need for source. we will know if the posters source is good or bad. M.O.T {Ed020's Note - great thought, i'll let the powers at be know.}
I think rating the source or rumour out of say ''five thumbs up'' would be a good idea
Woody {Ed003's Note - Just the same theory of agree and disagree really}
24 Jul 2012 07:38:02
Well,what a great night at Tavistock,great to see such good support,talking to Essex whites,south west whites,the gang from donny.The main team had a good hour,greeny played well.tom lees and jason pearce played well together and aidy white had an even bigger spring in his step,but when the switch came,bringing Dom poleon and the rest of the young team,just blew tavistock away,i was behind the goal when Ashdown went in the net,he has precence.good signing for back up keeper.well done lads,great to see a good turnout of fans.thanks tavi.You handled yourselves well for the first 25 mins.The rest of the signings im sure will now be coming in thick and fast.Warnock we believe in you.
noose58 MOT.
24 Jul 2012 07:34:01
I see varney has signed late yesterday, I don't want to be negative but am I the only one who is not very happy with this? I personally don't rate him and his goal scoring record is not great, I just think we should be looking at better players? MOT
He was brilliant in the premier league for Blackpool, let's hope he can produce the same level of performance for us! Definitely a good signing for £200,000
He's not in the team for his goal scoring its his work rate and setting up chances that warnock likes having said that he has been set a target of 8-10 goals
You're probably not the only one against the Varney signing but you're entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong.
Warnock actually said he expected Varney to score BETWEEN 8 and 10 goals... so I reckon thats 9 then!!
24 Jul 2012 07:00:12
Varney goal machine.
24 Jul 2012 05:43:24
apart from varney all of those signings were not picked up by anyone on here, so all of you wishing for beckford, pelteir,templeton, ect ect will be far off the mark, NW will surprise us all with completeley different signings, looks like hes got the green light though to purchase, and no bates to wallow in the glory, has he gone??....hx white
Wrong
Leeds have made a bid for pelteir
Apart from Ashdown and Durry every player we have signed has been mentioned on this site?
RabX
Funny that- Pearce and kenny were well spread on this site: also peltier is now being linked through ssn- so shut up :)
RyanMOT
24 Jul 2012 02:38:43
LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS
23 Jul 2012 23:14:11
So four of the eight players Neil said we were signing signed today. Ed's any thoughts on the next targets and what positions do you think Neil will targeting. Also synod grass played tonight is that not good sign!
Lufc {Ed013's Note - A right back, a winger and a striker are a must. I honestly think Snoddy wants a move away and he will play due to being paid by the club and Neil will include him whilst he is able. I would like to see Halford and a pacey stiker. I have no idea where a winger could come from to replace Snoddy if he goes}
ED...winger could be Templeton {Ed013's Note - good choice}
Lots saying about this templeton.is he that good?.must admit dont know him..shrew leeds
Kightly from Wolves would be a good replacement
23 Jul 2012 21:29:00
Ed are their any rumours with us being linked with a 20+ goal a season striker. Seems with the signing of Gray and Varney, we will have 6 strikers. I know we are trying to offload Paynter ad clubs are interested in McCormack. Who do you want/feel will be playing up front? Becchio in 541?
StevenLufc {Ed013's Note - Linked with Nicky Maynard}
VArney is more of a wide man in my opinion rather than an out and out striker, hence why he has never banged loads in. His pace will be invaluable and if we can get someone like maynard (no idea how much truth in this rumour), he'd compliment him well
Honestly, if Maynard comes I have no doubt he will be prolific, can remember watching him at Elland Road playing for Crewe and he just looked lethal, been a favourite since. Will be over the moon if he signs.
JS LUFC
24 Jul 2012 02:14:15
Just hope a new rb and stirker is brought in the other two signings are a bonus.
Lufc
24 Jul 2012 01:43:42
i for one am happy to see jamie ashdown join. i know he wont be number 1 but not a bad 2nd choice to have. rachubka will probably go to someone one 1, although apparently he didnt do amazingly at Leyton Orient last season. someone take him please. where are the rest of our dead wood going? nunez, paynter and others?
LJHS
Nunez playing last nightand apparently put in good crosses and had shots saved in the brief spell he was on - personally I would like to see him given a chance - JH
Watched the in tavi and he was to selfish and didn't do anything good in the game and missed a great chance inside the area and belted it over the bar, I for one don't think he is up to the championship
24 Jul 2012 00:21:03
very happy with the 4 deals done today
Ashdown - a very good keeper at this level and not a bad choice as back-up keeper
Austin - all i will say is, TANK!!! shows brilliant presence in the centre o t'park
Varney - lets hope he can reproduce the form he showed at Blackpool when they were in the prem
Gray - not bad back up, decent experience, might grab the odd goal or 2
squads taking nice shape, just a few more and snoddy signs a contract extension and ill be a happy White
Woody
M.O.T.
24 Jul 2012 00:11:14
Hang on, hang on, right I post on here from time to time but am on here reading everyday and all I hear is people bitching and moaning. We don't make any signings and it's bates' fault coz he's clearly ripping us off. We make signings and there not good enough! They've not all been freebies we have paid fees for almost everyone of the signings. Warnock knows what he's doing and doesn't sign players for the sake of it. He knows that you don't get out of this league by playing fancy passing football. You need to fight, you need experience, you need players that arent going to bottle it a crucial times and I think that's exactly what we have. We're not signing individuals. We're signing team players and players that want to wear the shirt.
Sam luFC
Very very well said!
At last! a sound and reasonable opinion of what is actually going on at ER! Well done SAM luFC.
NW has not made a bad fist of things thus far. I really like the new look Leeds united championship winning side and the season has not even started yet!
Jedburgh white
Swansea played fancy passing football to get out of this league
Must agree. At last we get new faces that can strengthen the squad and it's still moan this and that. Gzzzzzz some people.
2 thirds of the last six sides promoted from this league did so by playing passing football (southampton, reading, norwich and swansea). It would seem that passing attractive football IS the way to get out of this league............
24 Jul 2012 00:08:57
I like a lot of other supporters were "Underwhelmed" at the signings of Gray and Ashdown, Varney is an improvement,,, BUT Rudy the beast..... This signing IMO is nothing short of GENIOUS.... Remember This guy was worth between 2.5-3mill a couple if seasons ago.... I have seen this guy play. And he WILL scare teams to death.... Mix of Yeboah and Vinnie... Unlike Snods he WON'T go missing in the odd game... I really hope both Ross and Snodders stay, but if they really can't handle the pressure of putting the mighty whites back where they belong, then I say we sell, give Neil the money and let him unearth a few more diamonds like Mr Austin.... And let the two of them see what they are missing from Norwich and Crystal Palace respectively... MOT Gingerstreak.
Cant help going missing as a winger really especially when marked up all game . as for austin this is the type of player we have been asking for ,for the last few seasons
23 Jul 2012 23:57:04
first time poster on here. check everyday for any takeover news but as everyone has discovered no-one really knows anything. not a rumour, but does anyone else think its strange we have completed 4 signings in one day? im not suggesting the takeover has been completed i just think its bizzare we have made 4 permanent signings in one day. its not really papa smurfs usual style.
23 Jul 2012 23:55:30
So 8 signings warnock wanted and 4 have been completed tonight. Who are the other 4 i wonder? Im guessin crainie halford norris beckford
23 Jul 2012 23:42:55
I think takeover must have gone through today as we have signed 4 players and put a £1 million bid in for Maynard, this money must have come from somewhere and the only other thing iit could be is snodgrass is going
23 Jul 2012 22:58:32
Speaking on Yorkshire Radio (after the four signings) : Neil Warnock -
"I still feel the crucial signings are still to come. We are working hard again and hopefully get the next signing over the line."
Exciting times the 'squad' is getting stronger a couple of quality signings chucked into the mix and we will be a force.
In Warnock we trust. MOT
TeejLUFC
23 Jul 2012 22:50:14
Apparently we bid 1 mil for Maynard??
Chriso
Where did you hear that mate?
On twitter, confirmed by moose from talksport !
23 Jul 2012 22:42:01
Can we not complain about Gray and ashdown, clearly they are both substitutes, Gray being an impact player and cover and ashdown being paddy kenny's competition and cover for him if needed. Secondly warnock clearly has another striker lined up as he said he believes varney will score 8-10 goals, not a leading scorer, 4 more crucial signings and the premier league may be insight MOT
LouisLeeds
Lets not forget becchio always scores between 10-20 goals a season too.
23 Jul 2012 22:41:23
At Last the ED's have something official to put on our pages, all we need now is a Major striker and an attacking midfielder and I will be pleased. Not sure what the heck is going on with the takeover Gj
Don't forget a right back!
JW
23 Jul 2012 22:40:59
So, we've agreed a deal with SK Brann for Rodolph Austin, and I personally can't see the fella turning us down, so...Do any of you remember what happened the last time we had a "Rod" playing for us? :-)
23 Jul 2012 22:35:38
Most positive day as a Leeds fan in a long time! Mot.
RabX
23 Jul 2012 22:10:54
Four players in one day! Bloody he'll! Varney and Austin done tonight!
23 Jul 2012 22:08:31
We've signed 4 players today and there is still negativity. Gray and Ashdown will be squad players and we need em. Gray can score in this division and Ashdown is certainly better that Rachubka! Varney will do a job Austin, I haven't seen him so can't comment, but other fans are positive. It's taking shape now. I would have taken these signings a few months back. They're Warnock style players and his track record speaks for itself.
JT
Totally agree mate, some people will always moan. Luckily Warnock's the man in charge, and he's won several REAL promotions - not ones on his pc!
MOT!!
I take it Mr "Disagree" isn't a Leeds fan! Get a life!
23 Jul 2012 22:07:51
Why is everyone getting so worked up about Snodgrass - he hasnt shown the loyalty that White has or he would sign the contract- if he wants to go so be it - better to have the cash and get in some players who actually want to play for us than go to a small club like Norwich
" he hasnt shown the loyalty that White has"
er, he agreed to stat till xmas and make his mind up then, and he's still with us, is that not layalty?
Also White was out of contract and took his time to sign after waiting for better offers, is that loyalty?
Also Snodgrass STILL has a year contract unlike White......
Lol thats a joke we grew white into a footballer from 8 years old and he had been in talks with other clubs cause his wages werent high enough for him? Also his offer was on the table for much much longer than snodgrass' has been on for. As well as this snodgrass is not moaning about the value of his wages he wants to see ambition like all the fans do.