Leeds Banter Archive August 25 2012

 

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25 Aug 2012 23:06:19
Not a rumour, how confident is the lad byram to wear bright pink boots, when I was a lad anything but black and u was called a flash c&nt played well when came on,could have scored two goals aswell, a real prospect big things on way for him prob a january sale to .p.s hope not
Kella74 {Ed013's Note - Don't tell Norwich!}

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25 Aug 2012 22:15:54
As Warnock announced he'd like some quality loans when the squads have been registered;
Spearing, Frimpong, Luke Moore, Shelvey, Boothroyd, Lita, Perch, Coquelin & Maynard??
Anymore Ed, think we need a back up centre half with Paddy & a back up CM for Thommo/Brown also a winger and striker.
Calufc96 {Ed013's Note - In an ideal world, CB, LW, RW, AM and ST}

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Luke moore is playin at swansea so y wouldnt they register him ?!?!?
Bainesy boy

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Shelley didn't you watch the hearts game, he is utter rubbish .....kevlufc

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He was not rubbish against us last year. liked sterling

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25 Aug 2012 21:26:21
I dont think batesy boy will sell to be honest, hes a buisness man. I do belive investment is on the cards but no takeover, like i said hes a buisness man if he invests millions of his own money and we dont go up HE loses out and it ends up in players pockets (wages) if he sell shares at £1.00 each for arguments sake keep 51% of the club and him personally doesnt use his own money, if we dont go up he aint bothered, where as if he sells at £1.00 each and we do go up there worth lots more. Then he'll sell the remaining 51% as they'll be worth loads more. Then no matter what happen he cant lose.

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25 Aug 2012 23:20:41
That person has put little of his own money in, but has benefited massively from sales of of our assets and supporters goodwill....the sooner he goes the better! He doesn't give a hoot about lufc

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The man is a sad old c==t, who cares for knowone but profit. We must be the only club who have a owner that invests nothing but still has half the fans thinking he's the messiah! The sooner we all come togeather and see whats looking straight at us. The sooner this club can start to move forward.
We are more or less killing each other and Bates is sat back laughing at us. The man needs to move with the times. You've got to put a little in to get something out, speculate to accumalate.
So do one Bates, while your still liked by some fans.
mot4life

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I agree with u both, but like i said in my post and u in the 2nd reply he cares for no1 except money. So y sell in the championship, when theres a chance to sell when hes in the prem for more money and the investors will have paid to get us there and not him.

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25 Aug 2012 20:48:55
2 points
Firstly spoke to phil hay from yep at game today said nothing has come out from the club this week at all over takeover, last wk they thought it was just about a done deal but now silence, p.s I'm now getting worried.

Also spoke with doiuf after game whilst he was doing a warm down and he says he,s signing contract on Monday, as a joke becchio said yes it's for £250 a week doiuf was in really good spirit he said he,s going nowhere he loves the fans he said he,s signing 100%.
Kella74

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Who wouldn't love us? OOOH! i forgot Bates.
mot4life

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25 Aug 2012 19:36:50
What I don't get is this if Leeds fans would have gone on the rampage like the millwall persons we'd have received massive condemnation and possibly deducted points will be interesting to see what happens to them possibly nothing a usual

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Was there trouble at Peterborough today then ?.I know there is always lots of Leeds fanns in the Peterborough stand but didnt see any trouble today...J

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I think he means there was trouble at the wendies today not at the posh but original poster pls give more info

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There was no trouble at p,boro. We did give fergie some proper stick though :-)

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25 Aug 2012 18:21:25
2-1 against Blackpool doesn't seem so doom and gloom now does it lads ;)

TeejLUFC

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Mate if we lost to any team it's doom and gloom for me we are the mighty Leeds and I never want to lose again.......kevlufc

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Kev it sounds like Celtic in the SPL could be your second team, they never have to
lose again after Rangers demotion

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Celtic will loose in the end but it will not be points, it will be fans. It was boreing before, can you imagine what its goin to be like now.
mot4life

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25 Aug 2012 18:01:31
2 wins from 3. 6 points from 9. Scored more than conceded. 5 th place. Really could we have asked any more from the first 3 games realistically. Come on guys. Things ON the pitch are going to plan if things off it are not MOT dannylufc

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To hold out a draw atleast on tuesday night.

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I think blackburn on saturday will have on positive / negative outlook on footballing terms dependin on result.
Bainesyboy

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I think we'll beat blackburn. They will come thinking its a walk in the park and find its the mighty Leeds, back on the march again.
mot4life

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9 points

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25 Aug 2012 17:53:27
a decent win, fell apart in the second half again. conceded against a poor side. still need time for the players to gel, and get some squad depth.

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Some of the front players are letting themselfs down at the moment. Varney at Blackpool, with a poor clearance. Then his pal Norris, doin the samething in are own box. Lets just hope Warnock has some hammerite for them, to get rid of the rusty play.
mot4life

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25 Aug 2012 17:41:27
Was at the game today, and saw people wearing "Bates out" t-shirts and the usual "Bates Out" chants were being sung. People need to realise that money isn't everything in football, prime example is Leicester City, look how much money they threw at it last season and now look, they're 3 points below us and sat in mid table, yes its early days but also last season they weren't much better than us! We haven't spent much, but we haven't needed to, we've started off with 2 of the hardest sides in the league, we beat Wolves and kept a clean sheet, then we suffered a narrow defeat at Blackpool who are dominating the division. If teams throw money at it such as Leicester then they sign the best players as individuals such as yours Beckford's and your Matt Mills'......but with us we've got a squad that work for eachother, we haven't got the bus players but we have a good spirit and passion, having that can win you more games than money can! Keep the faith people, were Leeds United and we have the best fans and manager in the division, the players loved the atmosphere today and it spurred them on! Keep up the spirit and see what happens in May! Leeds Leeds Leeds! MOT! PickersLUFC-DevonWHITES

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I never join in the Bates Out chants at games even though I'm very anti-Bates. I think it serves no purpose other than to give him ammunition.

Being anti-Bates is not all about money for players though. There are many very good reasons for being anti-Bates - lack of investment in the team and holes in the accounts are just a small part of a very big picture.
ML

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If warnock got the same money as Leicester it would be far more effective proven manager at this level

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Oh that's ok then we will tell Bates not to sign as everything is great. doh

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You must be stupid if you think you can be successful without any cash,regardless having the best fans and manager in championship,but I question us having the best fans,we have a hardcore of superb fans which probably are the best in the countrybut only 22 thousand for first game of the season leaves me with doubts,we need to show teams we are the best fans but at the moment were not,as for the team come mid season suspensions and injuries we will end up lower part of division,if we are down to bare bones now what's it gonna be like then.

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Anti bates chants when we are away are completely pointless. We should leave that at ER and just get behind the team. All it does is show the home team we are not a united camp. I dont like Bates but I am not about to send out negative pointless chants when we are away WE ARE LEEDS ! M O T

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25 Aug 2012 17:10:17
Looks like Blackpool are a class side in this division.

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Hopefully incey n phillips will pi$$ off n help us out
Bainesyboy

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Forget them, got to remember 3 teams go up and 3 teams go down. If we can hang around the top till January and the takeover goes through before then. What a push the second half of the season will be. The down side is, if Bates is still in control by then. Then all i can see is us dropping off the pace. Hopefully people will then all come togeather and show Bates he's not wanted at are club.
BARMY ARMY!!
mot4life

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25 Aug 2012 17:09:23
Really good win for us today. Played probably the strongest team. Nice to see Poleon get a run out. Crucial week coming up for us I believe which will finally show Bates true colours even to his most loyal supporters. I am not one of those but he did save our club all those years ago but he has a chance to act in the very best interests of our club. I suggest he takes it otherwise he isn't going to have a friend left and Warnock may walk once the transfer window slams shut. Facts are facts. We spent 2.5m but player sales reached 3.2m so we haven't actually spent anything. That can't have been what NW had in mind when seeking those assurances. Shame because we are close. As little as 2 quality signings would give us the edge in depth of squad and the eleven on the field. We would obtain promotion but a certain Ken won't sign the standard indemnity clause. Sign it Ken or have zero friends. Heard even Harvey is turning against him. Next 6 days are critical to LUFC. MOT

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Ken saved our club. and he calls me a moron. wise up man read up on 7 yrs of hell. stop being blinkerd money men who run rings round fans passion for a football club. id still be a leeds fan if they were in lg2. wake up smell the bull

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25 Aug 2012 17:08:46
Playoffs! Finish the season now!

JackTheWhite

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Top would be better.

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We are seventh

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25 Aug 2012 16:41:59
The takeover deal...we as fans need to take drastic, monumental action, not violent or criminal but something that gets us on the news :o) We Are Leeds United & we'll never be defeated...

Mr Pop

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Sounds like youve had too much pop,what good will that do?,just support the boys and let the grown ups take care of buisness.

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There is no takeover fact so bates out all the way

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Here we go again with the "FACT" crap,how the hell is it fact when nothings been announced yet,keep it real.

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There never was going to be a takeover you mug bates has made it all up once again to try and get the fans of his back

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Yes in my mind Bates was never going to sell. Just wonder whether the potential buyers can now sue Bates for all the costs involved in the due deligence? Can you throw any light on this Ed? {Ed013's Note - I very much doubt they can}

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Ed, i thought before due diligence can take place, you have to agree a price in principle. So if Bates has changed the price, which we are led to believe, if true. There must be some grounds to sue on?
mot4life {Ed013's Note - Until the paperwork is signed then its still owned by Kenneth}

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No grounds for legal action I'm afraid. Selling a business is just like selling a house. Until contracts are exchanged either party can withdraw or change the rules of engagement if they see fit.

As for whether the takeover will ever happen, I'm past thinking about it. I try not to let things bother me which are outside my control otherwise I'd just go mad. Chanting Bates Out won't make any difference. He'll go when he's ready and whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.
ML

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25 Aug 2012 14:59:28
rumour is leeds are looking for more vibrant colours to add to the squad, no wonder with white, grey and brown on the bench today :p

KD

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I don't know why we wasted 1 years contracts on brown and grey. When we need more in the first 11. Warnock really needs to stop helping old friends along, this is not the dole office and i think they've made anothe in the game.
BARMY ARMY!!
mot4life

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25 Aug 2012 14:50:32
Good team today. Back four as strong as it can be.....Peltier,Lees, Pearce and Drury. Also Diouf in for Green. Just about the strongest team we've got at the moment. Let's see how they get on!
Lufctim.

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25 Aug 2012 14:45:43
Good luck to the Whites tonight, hoping for a few goals!
On aus foxtel tonight. 7 years ago Swansea stayed in the football league on goal difference. Now scored 8 conceded 0 in premier league. And we have been splashing around lower divisions like a beached whale because? Cant just be bates! We've had duff managers. It really frustrates meto see bloody good teams put together on a shoestring. It's jot about mOney or who you but or individual superstars it's about the right players working for eachother as a team. With bait of talent. Why and how is that so hard for us?
Good on you Swansea. Hope you stay up ni would like 4 goals tonight ( in aus )for sweat dreams!
Ausman

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24 Aug 2012 23:50:43
Just come back from taking the kids on holiday and had a great time. The only thing that killed my holiday some what, was the poor purformance on Tuesday. If we carn't afford to get any sort of half desent player. Then what the hell is goin on. This could all be sorted if Bates just signed on the dotted line. These people really must want Leeds because i'd be p****d off by now, if it was me.
Everyone on this site who said Bates saved us, Bates is my hero. GET REAL! The man never saved anybody but himself. If he cares so much and we go right to his heart, then where the f=ck is he? This man is goin to end up f=cking up this takeover and half are supporters are goin to love him for it.
He knows we love are club, it's not hard to see. He also knows he keeps getting away with dipping his hand in the till and before you say, its his till to dip. There would be f=ck all in there to start with, if it wasn't for us loyal fans backing the team. Bates is nothing more than a greedy old man, who cares for knowbody. I can see myself in 5=10 years time, goin on a pilgrimage to Monaco to p**s on a grave, with my leeds scarf swinging high above my head. We'll never be mastered, by you, by you, cockney b==tard!
Sorry lads but time is of the essence.
SGT WARNOCKS BARMY ARMY!!
mot4life

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Mot4life the holiday certainly hasn't done you any good as far as your eyesight is concerned! On Tuesday it wasn't a poor performance it was a well settled, organised team having the guile and quality to find the holes in our squad. You really ought to do something about your obsession with Bates, maybe write to him or arranged to meet with him? Try and explain and express how you feel. Give the rest of us some peace! I do not consider Bates as my hero, I don't think he ever saved me anything. I do however, think he saved my football club from people like cretinous morons such as Krasner, Mackenzie, anonymous sheiks, local transport hauliers, and those troublemakers LUST! If my memory serves me well Chairman Bates gave SG over £10 million, he gave Kevin Blackwell money ffs! he's backed to my knowledge every manager that's managed my club. What is it you want?
IF NW wasn't happy about the financial support he was getting don't you think that someone of his calibre, would walk? he's made enough from the game, I'm sure his ego wouldn't allow him to stay if he thought for one moment he was getting stiffed!!
The only people that will f**k up this takeover/investment is people like you and LUST with all your bile and negativity. If Bates wants to dip his hand in the till, then it's his till he can do whatever he likes. It is NOT your business. He runs the business according to the laws of this land and banks where the law allows him to bank. If you want to see how to run a club on you business model look to the east (York City). Local businessman Douglas Craig (Dougie to his mates) complete waste of space that was in the 90's, York are only just recovering is that what you want mot4life? When you say something positive about "our club" I will swing my scarf over my head with my trousers round my ankles singing in arabic "Marching on together"
Give it a rest ffs!!

Jedburgh White

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10 million to Grayson to spend what utter rubbish. Ppl are entitled to there own opinion without ppl like you spouting your rubbish. All ken bates saw was a big club in alot of trouble so he bought us cheap and knew there was alot if money to be made.

Look up your history mate he hates Leeds with a passion and there was a number if interested parties willing to buy us at the time but ken got in first and as for saving us I don't think so he has given us no money this year cost us millions is court cases time to move on let the real Leeds fans get behind the club and make us one of the biggest teams in Europe once again mot

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Stop sticking up for bates the man is a parasite and should be drove out of are club asap mot4ever!

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A buisness deal is a business deal, Jedburgh White, our negativity towards Bates wont have any effect on it. You have believed what Bates has fed you. Dont.

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Im sorry but he did save us.....yes someone else could have but he did it in the end. no he didnt spend 10 mil with grayson i agree with you there, and yes he has had his time and now should sell us. but there is one thing for certain, he did save us. he turned us into a profitable club and got us out of league one, so he did save us.

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Jedburgh White its people like you why our club is in the sh*t. Bates gave Grayson 10 million..really... then pray tell us all the players he bought with it. You are talking total rubbish so you give it a rest ffs

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Check your facts and go read up on insolvency law. Bates did not save us. He put us into administration and cost us 25 points in deductions. He then acquired the club again from the administrators in very unusual circumstances since when money has been flowed from the club.

He did back Blackwell, that much is true, but he certainly did not back Grayson. An informed reading of the company accounts makes that very clear. During that period we made net player sales of minus 11 million - that's to say we received 11m more than we paid out in fees. All of that is documented in the accounts and available in the public domain through Companies House.

Opinion is one thing, but a technical knowledge of company & insolvency law and structure is another thing entirely, and whilst I never claim to know more than others on here about football, as a director of two operational companies and a holding company I do know a lot about company law.

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24 Aug 2012 23:45:32
dont get me wrong, im not a fan of bates but dont you think that he is being sensible by not over spending.....if we did then we would not be one of the very litte that make a profit, yes he should re invest player sales in the playing squad. but if we did. maybe we wouldnt be a non debt football club...?

im not for bates but i do think he is a good business man and is technically doing good things for our club.

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Rubbish he hasn't spent a penny in years. We have sold our bet players and made millions in profit which he promised to spend on new players but never did.

Get bates out he doesn't have the funds or the heart for Leeds all he wants is money.

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There is no money, he's not being careful with cash he's just not spending any, his own money is securely tucked away and he's being pig headed and showing he won't be forced into anything by the 'morons'
it's a game to this man because while he owns the club he has 'power' over us all,when he sell he'll have nothing left but a lonely existence in monoco, no friends, no club nobody that likes him as a man, no power and all he has to look forward to is a lonely death with the knowledge he ruined the lives of thousands.
if you read this ken please note leeds united is a massive part of my life, as the club is for thousands of others, please go out now while we have a chance to save the club. you know we will sink without trace if you don't, even scrooge turned out ok come on ken do the right thing.

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Unfortunatly the type of player we can buy with the money that KB is giving us means we won't be competative and are not going to get anywhere. Yes I like that we are making a profit but to get to the big league where the proper money is you need to speculate a bit. I'm not saying spend millions and get ourselves in trouble again but to just buy a couple of quality players to complement our workmanlike squad

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Wat can I say to that, How's about get f****d ken and sign that deal to sell us on you repulsive man. Ps stop posting on this site Keneith you are not welcome

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Stop sending e-mails to this site Ken !

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I never said i was for bates, but if you think of what he has done well.......he has kept us afloat. if thats because of the player sales, i dont know but he has kept us in the not very many clubs that are making a profit.

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You're just another wum trying to get a reaction pal

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24 Aug 2012 22:24:01
Last season we witnessed players who didn't necessarily want to play for the shirt, this was their job. They came to work and went home and got paid. This season Neil Warnock is assembling a team who will all put their bodies on the line, they might not be the most talented or most flair players cos we certainly ain't paying the best wages, but what they do get is a support unlike no other a support who will quite literally follow them anywhere, so we may want the take over money to buy better players but one thing our crowd have always appreciated win lose or draw if you play at your best every game well support you. so what we goon do if Bates is the arse we all think he is and doesn't sign are we gonna turn on our players who might not be the best or support them? I don't know about everyone else but I'm gonna turn up at ER and show my support MOT

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So the person who has opted for disagree I take it you don't intend on supporting the players so how can u call yourself a supporter?

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Personally I think any poster claiming to be a 'better supporter' should be banned from the site Ed. I chose to renew my season ticket but fully understand why 3 of my 5 matchday companions didn't. They felt uncomfortable funding the Bates regime. I disagree with them but I respect their viewpoint.

Claiming to be a better supporter shows a lack of respect for others' opinions. Banter is fine but insults shouldn't be tolerated.
ML {Ed013's Note - I cannot block them as it is just their opinion and unfortunately some people believe that if they go to 1 match and then someone else doesn't, that makes them a better supporter! How do you define a 'better supporter'? I am unsure on the text book answer. I go every week to Leeds, but that is my choice and I am lucky enough that I can afford it through working hard and getting a decent wage. My Uncle, that got me supporting Leeds, has been going for 40 years but will not go until Mr Bates has left the building. I wouldn't say I am a better supporter than him because he has been going for 14 years more than me and doesn't love Leeds any less just because he has stopped going! Some people work really hard for little wages and just cant afford to go, but would love to go to at least 1 game a season. Some have kids and bills to pay that cant afford to go. We have fans all over the World that save up to get to at least one game, but take last season for example, I would have been gutted travelling a long way to see the garbage at Leeds! If Mr Bates gave a better price plan instead of worrying about paying more stewards, then more fans could go. I don't know how I will afford to take my 2 sons when they are older. They will end up glory hunting with their mates (I wont let them!) So there all all different kinds of Leeds United fans, but what defines them better than the next one?}

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