Leeds Banter Archive April 28 2018

28 Apr 2018 23:13:29
Too many times this season we were leading only to throw it all away

28 Apr 2018 20:12:43
If we didn't already know some at Leeds are already in Holiday mode. The season ended last week (some would say even earlier)

28 Apr 2018 18:54:48
Ok, here we go. WHICH manager with the right credentials would you bring in to turn this shower around? And let's be realistic and forget Wenger, Dyche and the like? Who? Just interested.

28 Apr 2018 19:19:48
You losing faith in hecky bright?

28 Apr 2018 19:48:49
Strachan?

28 Apr 2018 19:50:27
Up in the air Martyn. It's just I'm intrigued who of the people who want him out, realistically think we can bring in? Given the club structure, the likely limited budget and all that.

28 Apr 2018 20:13:57
Really doesn't matter which manager we bring in, not allowed to manage in the true sense of the type of manager we grew up with. Put orta in charge see how long he lasts.

28 Apr 2018 20:14:17
It's a fair point but that's something radz will have to work out for him self. Manager or coach? When you wanna run the show with someone else buying the players then you'll always end up with puppets. We need to break away from this structure and get someone Sanchez or allerdyce because I think hell be replaced at Everton in summer. Problem is will orta take a step back from his role because there's not much sign of him doing that or he would have taken the job in spain

28 Apr 2018 20:28:38
Sound post Martyn. And Strachan I could live with, partic with Macca as number two, but the time and patience to allow them to build.

28 Apr 2018 20:32:35
Yes I think any new managers name will be decided on how much power he can wield. Its's easy to say Strachan, Flores et al but would they come under the present regime? No, I think that as per the financial situation we have to work with what we have (for the moment) . The show today has still not dented my optimism for next year it merely has underlined the height of the task ahead both physical and mental. Also the names of some of the faces who may not be here next season (or if they are they won't be kicking a ball regularily. )

28 Apr 2018 21:57:38
What about oleary?

28 Apr 2018 22:02:16
I'm with you on that, Leodis. Watching the game today, there is so much inconsistency with the players on the park. Great touch, great pass, then just pee poor in every area thereafter. A manager or coach cannot account for that. Time for the broom, and a proper clean out this summer. The onus is on Radz and Orta.

28 Apr 2018 22:13:30
The thing with DOL is, that I don't understand why he's been out of the game for so long. Is he still interested? Are we still paying him? And could he do it without Eddie at his side? It went downhill when he brought Kidd in. Loved the guy tho, and he brought some great times!

28 Apr 2018 22:31:08
Give it 6 months and we'll be linked with Lee bowyer .

28 Apr 2018 23:22:54
Whats the ooint in bringing the broom out bright if ortas going to fill us with tripe again

29 Apr 2018 08:34:20
Fair point Martyn. Like I say, the onus is now with Radz and Orta to not screw up again. If they do, They will have made my mind up for me, and I'll be shouting for their heads too!

29 Apr 2018 11:00:54
You are right Martyn and Bright the structure any Manager at Leeds has to work under at the moment is the issue. I have to say though that Heckingbottom isn't for me, he should still have done better than he has. Orta should go or do some overseas scouting and Radz, if he has any ambition for this Club to get promoted or at least challenge has to give power on signings back to the Manager. Surely people around the Club such as Eddie Gray can see this is the problem, Radz should speak to the likes of him maybe for some advice.

28 Apr 2018 18:14:25
top 16 not 6, i get it now its not pauls fault apparently must be the kitchen staffs fault then, i mean like paul says its about everyone at the club, atleast in two seasons we, ll get a trophy, league one .

28 Apr 2018 18:24:06
Sackingbottom is another Donald Trump. blames everyone else and would take all the praise if there was any. what does that tell you?

28 Apr 2018 18:45:18
You can't polish a turd no matter how hard you rub. Fergie was shxx in his first season let Heck have a go with his own team then judge. The annoying thing for me with most of the comments on here is total negativity even Messi would be a rubbish signing. Glass half full me crap season let's move on.

28 Apr 2018 19:03:47
The buck stops with Radz he employed Orta after his Boro fiasco he's stuck with him after all the crap he's bought he chose Heck he chose to play friendlies where no sane person would don't think just sacking Heck would do it what manager would come to Leeds with this set up, we need a proven manager who will pick his own plyers without Ortas genius so unless things change at the top were screwed

28 Apr 2018 19:22:54
I'd be more than happy with Messi!

28 Apr 2018 19:23:48
Heckingbottom won't have his own team Christiansen didn't have his own team its radz and Orta's team so while there together nothing will change.

28 Apr 2018 19:24:25
Thing is dougie it will never be prickingbottoms own team because he's here to coach not to manage so it's more of the same next year I'm afraid

28 Apr 2018 17:58:27
Gonna be an interesting last day of the season for many! (Not us) . Automatics place for grabs, play offs for grabs, and relegation still possible for quite a few. Personally would rather see Fulham go up auto, and Brum go down. What's everyone else's views? And what a carp second half o the season it's been! Roll on summer rumours!

28 Apr 2018 18:11:53
Agree bright. Fulham up Brum down would be smashing

28 Apr 2018 18:24:39
Fulham up
Reading down

28 Apr 2018 18:56:46
Fulham up
Reading down
And definitely Southampton relegated

28 Apr 2018 17:47:36
So thinking about potential positives for the season after next when we are in league one, if Plymouth argyle stay in league one and Exeter get promoted to league one i will have two away games on my doorstep that I can watch as down here in West Country

28 Apr 2018 17:19:09
Simple. Awful day; awful team; awful game; awful result. Nothing else to say really

28 Apr 2018 17:22:30
There is. SACK SACKINGBOTTOM!

28 Apr 2018 18:06:03
There were some bad times in the eighties but this up there with them. As other posts say what is there to be optimistic about. PH is not the man for us, come on Radz get a Manager in with the right credentials and let him get on with sorting this mess out.

28 Apr 2018 18:17:36
Tell Brightwhite that !

28 Apr 2018 16:51:48
Well nothing to play for today but pride and even that’s a no! PH has done nothing with this team, they have no direction and definitely no idea! Sad times!

28 Apr 2018 16:59:01
But Sackingbottom was CHOSEN as the HOLY ONE, the DELIVERER, the YORKSHIRE SPECIAL ONE! Check out his record with Barnsley this year. £500k down the toilet! Do you see it getting better next year? . I predict RELEGATION. Lost today AGAIN!

28 Apr 2018 17:02:37
Sad times indeed, but I still can't point the finger at PH yet. The buck stops firmly with Radz and Orta, neither of whom are going anywhere anytime soon. I only hope they see their error, and step up over the summer. Lose next weekend and we could end 16th!

28 Apr 2018 17:07:13
A result you could see coming, as you say Mike he took over a very average squad but has put no inspiration into this team whatsoever. Some of those players need to take a long hard look at themselves, too many with no pride and no fight. A massive overhaul needed for next season as there seems to be a couldn't care less attitude, I wonder what the young players coming through think of some of the so called senior players contributions or lack of.

28 Apr 2018 17:12:31
OH COME ON! Sackingbottom is to BLAME! . does he not have a back bone. is he just taking the money. did he not do due diligence and check everything before he signed the contract? WAKE UP!

28 Apr 2018 17:19:19
We are an embarrassment we need a goal so send Grot on genius, ehy players who will be leaving were on the bench god only knows them kids have earned the right for a run out so wot did todays team prove it proves the way this football club is being run and managed is a disgrace with what we've got and who were linked with is nailed on relegation next year a travesty wot Radz and Orta have done to our club total shambles.

28 Apr 2018 17:26:54
You forget Sackingbottom. You insult his intelligence by saying he is not responsible! He takes the money every pay packet and you gloss over his RESPONSIBILITY! Is he a child? Is he an idiot? Is he just taking the money?

28 Apr 2018 15:33:42
I am not a Hecky Out man but I must say I am greatly disappointed in his squad today. Bottom line, if we lose then potential drop to 14th, so, big deal! What can he learn from playing Cooper surely he can gain far more by playing O'Connor again or even one more U23. We are not going for promotion or top six so why oh why not use these last two games to experiment. Also what is he going to learn from Ekuban on the bench. Either play him or Grot or much more usefull put Dalby/Edmundson on the bench and give one of them 30 mins.

28 Apr 2018 16:38:40
You should be!

28 Apr 2018 14:54:05
Really disappointed with that line up and squad today, but I honestly feel PH is having his hand forced. Edmundson travels, and doesn't make the bench, and if Forshaw is fit, he should be starting.

28 Apr 2018 14:58:37
Yeah me too. PH is a puppet. Very disappointed.

28 Apr 2018 15:19:47
If PH is having his hand forced, must be Radz or Orta interfering or both. I agree if that is the case he should have the balls to stand up to them. Like I have said in other posts, what Manager worth his salt would want to work in that environment.

28 Apr 2018 16:36:52
There's "stand up to the boss", then "stand upto and get sacked by the boss". IF it is the case that he's being dictated to, which I can't be sure of, he doesn't have a choice really.

28 Apr 2018 16:42:21
Did Sackingbottom sign a puppet contract? N! he signed a real man;s contract. why do you and others think he's a child and inexperienced with no legal advice? . he knew what he was doing! Sackingbottom OUT!

28 Apr 2018 16:47:14
At least getting sacked as a Football Manager you get a big fat wad of cash.

28 Apr 2018 17:07:12
Melt. What a post.

28 Apr 2018 17:08:54
Oh yes, I forgot the legal differentiation between "puppet" and "real man" contracts! ? 🤔🤐

28 Apr 2018 12:07:10
Personally I would like to see a experienced rock of a defender signed for next but if not our defence is not in such bad shape. With Full backs of Coyle, Ayling Pearce, Denton and Centrebacks from Jansson, Shaugnessy, O'Connor, Struijk things look promising with only a couple not tested and that could change this week, or next, if Hecky plays it smart.

28 Apr 2018 14:03:55
Don't forget De Bock. Lol. On a more serious note, Berardi.

28 Apr 2018 09:58:55
Good luck to the under 18 team today in their play-off semi final against Charlton. Something good to cheer this season, all the best lads! .

28 Apr 2018 10:45:07
Hope they can do it.

28 Apr 2018 12:59:31
Were losing one - nil before my stream cut off. ☹️

28 Apr 2018 00:14:14
Great Result for Fulham tonight and that man Milovic again on the score sheet! 23 games unbeaten for them, I wonder what that feels like! In all honesty I would like to see them go up automatically as I think they will have more to offer in the Premiership, for me, I think Cardiff would come straight back down! It’s going to be a very very tough next season with quality teams coming down and some good ones being promoted, and of course some quality teams still in The Championship, but saying all that if we can do well then we know we have a good team to go up with. 👍👍

28 Apr 2018 03:20:58
You could say that every year Mike. That's why if we let the gap grow it's going to be harder to compete and before you know it we will be like Barnsley and Burton trying to survive.

28 Apr 2018 10:14:16
To be fair Mike both Fulham and Cardiff have owners with the financial clout to back them. As we have seen Fulhams owner has lots of cash and offering loads to buy Wembley stadium, Cardiffs owner backed them before in the prem, granted not spent much this season.

28 Apr 2018 10:18:50
We ars a selling club any young ones coming through and start to impress will be sold and that's how we'll survive I'mm afraid the future may still be white but not bright.

28 Apr 2018 10:39:09
That's a really good point Mezzer. The billionaire Fulham owner has been there since 2013, and they have invested every year in the team. Even with such an owner as we dream of, and IF they get promotion, it will have taken them 5 years!

28 Apr 2018 11:49:03
Wow! Really hadn’t realised that Bright, but great spot. I was looking at the table last night 1-11 and there is a mixture of large and small squads with significant and moderate budgets. However, for me the thing that stands out (and the table doesn’t lie) all those teams Managers have outperformed both TC&PH and whilst I appreciate the manager doesn’t cross the white line it’s about making timely decisions as and when it was needed. For my own part I think TC was too nice too reticent to get stuck into them post Millwall and now for me, I think PH hasn’t been brave enough with a god given opportunity to blood more youth (repeatedly making the same mistakes) is a step on the road to insanity or mediocrity. So if PH is there next season and I think he will be his performance is going to be the most important of the lot!

28 Apr 2018 13:01:01
Very true points Class!

28 Apr 2018 14:18:45
Aren't Cardiff 100 mill in debt