Leeds Banter Archive October 28 2011

28 Oct 2011 18:03:39
Why has Grayson LIED to us?

He openly admitted that Paynter would only be loaned out to a team that could not cause us any conflict, and here we are with him going to Brighton, in the same league as us?

I am (or was) 100% behind Grayson, but I seriously cannot accept any of our players playing in a team in the same league, whatsoever?

He may not be iinvolved in any game against us, but if he scores a goal and that give his team points then that is a direct point of conflict?

After 40 plus years of supporting Leeds United I am now looking at walking away, I cannot truly understand why ANY Leeds player is loaned out to a team in the same league?

If this loan goes ahead, I am walking....

..even after the forty plus years!

Grayson, you are an idiot!!

Thats the way this club is being run from owner to manager, tell us 1 thing and do another.Glad Paynter going but should have gone to league 1,cos sods law that billy will come good for someone else

I understand what you are saying buy walking away from the club you love is a little extreme isnt it? I agree its a bit strange is loaning a striker to a team in the same league but it is payntet so i wouldnt worry too much... You should stick by your team whatever happens.

I don't think grayson is the person round here, and that goes for the people who actually believe this twaddle! If he is a fan, we don't need him.

Brighton already have one painter- maybe they just strengthening the team decorating their new stadium

Walk away, walk away and then walk some more until you hit the wall of reality and then, maybe, just maybe you might come to your senses and stick with and get behind the team that you profess to love so much! The rest of us true and loyal supporters will be waiting for you!

Paynter wont score for Brighton

It's Paynter? Besides if he plays well we'll recall him after 3 games

So what? whinge whine

You would walk away from supporting your club after 40 years because we loaned a s**t striker out to Brighton. Get a grip mate, if thats your attitude towards the team maybe you had better walk sunshine

You ever thought they may have offered money to us for him, offered to pay his wages? I reckon the only way he SG would have agreed and changed his mind is so for this reason

What makes you so sure it was Simon's decision? Money talks - Mr Bates is a money man. If Brighton was the only firm offer on the table then it was the right decision no matter what. He's surplus to requirements from our perspective and the money could be used to strengthen the defence.

Moreover, Mr. Paynter is also a fellow human being and professional footballer who, if he's not getting a chance at Leeds, deserves an opportunity to ply his trade elsewhere. For someone old enough to have been supporting for 40 years you don't seem to have a very rational or mature attitude to this.

I just don't understand how allowing a player, good or bad, to play for one of our main rivals, is in any way beneficial to Leeds United?

Yes Paynter has the right to play elsewhere, but not at our expense?

I can put up with Grayson taking off our best players after 70 minutes every game, but actually giving playes to our opponents just beggars belief..........

If this loan goes ahead, I am walking....

..even after the forty plus years!

Grayson, you are an idiot!


YOUR HAVIN A LARRFFFFF - get a grip we are top three by mid November - go support Brighton ad Paynter man if you are that concerned that they are a threat ?? youd think you were talking about Somma or Bechio ! ?

Grow up get a life . you lot dont have graysons job, so dont go knocking him when your not capable of of picking a sunday league team .judgement day is may long live super leeds

I don't need or want Graysons job, up till this week he was doing fine, but the obvious thing is you don't give any sort of help to the teans around you who could stop the promotion bid, which is exactly what Grayson has done?

He publicly stated on the OS that Paynter WOULD NOT be going to a team that was in direct competition, and yet here we are with job done?

I will NOT totally walk away from the team I have supported for all these years, despite what I might have said, both I, you, and Leeds are in the blood, and will be there forever, but I no longer believe in Grayson, after he has lied in public and done this.

I am not one of the anti-Bates brigate, but I have just lost faith in Grayson.

I wish the team well, and seriously hope we can get promoted IN SPITE of this ridiculous loan, but I seriously cannot comprehend why we have given a player to one of our main rivals??

We should not be helling out anyone in the same league as ours, especially a team who, tonight, are sitting just one point below us in the league??

This is sheer lunacy??

"Brighton already have one painter- maybe they just strengthening the team decorating their new stadium"

Actually if you go check out the new stadium you would see how serious Brighton are about top flight football, they have spent millions of pounds, and that is precisely why I cannot understand why we are giving them any sort of help whatsoever? They are determined to get top flight football at the Falmer stadium, we seem happy to help them do so, possibly at our own expense?

There are some real idiots on this forum. Real football management isn't like the computer game. Loans & transfer decisions are not made at managerial level. These things are a board decision. Judge the board by its actions and judge the manager by his results. No money, low gates with reducing income, I'm surprised we're not fighting relegation. I think Grayson's over achieving with the resources he has and we should support him, not whine about a decision he almost certainly had no control over. In any case, why should anyone be bothered about loaning a striker who couldn't score to anyone.

28 Oct 2011 13:36:10
Why are people saying it makes sense one out (being paynter) one in (being smith)? the reason he has gone is because he is fifth in line for a start and we got Somma coming back which will make him sixth in line so good business again to ghet him off the wage bill.

Somma isn't expected back til Feb/March.

We should not be loaning any player whatsoever to a team in the same league as us, let alone a team who are just three points below us?

grayson has lied to us, he clearly stated he would only loan this player out to a team that would not be a conflict, and he has just done exactly that?

after forty plus years of supporting leed, i cannot understand why grayson is willing to help one of outr main rivals out.

i am just about to walk away from leeds, as it seems obvious grayson is not interested in protecting our interests.

i truly cannot understand why we would give any palyer, good or bad, to our competitors.

i am just about to join the anti- grayson brigade, because i truly cannot understand how this will benefit leeds united in any way whatsoever. i dont care whether it benefits paynter or not, it is a deliberate conflict of interest!!!!!

Watt a sad man walk away cos we have loaned a player out to another club in our league ,Keep walking down the m62 would be my guess surly you would be better off supporting scum .they have many so called fans turning up at there ticket office cap in hand ! W

Nowhere neare the M62 mate, try the M1, my home games are 150 miles in each direction, thats how dedicated I am.

Cannot believe you people are happy for us to actually give any sort of support to one of our rival teams, especially to one sitting just below us in the league by one point??

Help one of our rivals out by loaning Paynter? ,get a grip,one goal in twenty games for us,hardly prolific eh,Its Gus whos lost the plot not SG.

Uh, guess you didn't realise Brighton took a point from Birmingham today, which is more than we managed?

That puts them just one point below us now?

You still happy that we have given them a striker who could help them overtake us?

Billy Paynter is a striker?

Dedicated and you are going to stop supporting Leeds Because we loaned Billy paynter to Brighton?Dose not sound too dedicated to me mate.I must admit I only live 5 mins away from ground but there is nothing in this world that would stop me supporting LUFC .

Brighton took a point.....etc..??

So what. we took 6 points from QPR but they still finished top. Football league tables are not perfectly formed with the team at the top winning all their games and so on down to the team at the bottom losing all theirs. Whoever thinks that's an argument either for or against the loan decision is beyond stupid. One result means nothing in this context. Every team in the league will win, lose and draw against expectations at several points in the course of a season. The old adage 'the table doesn't lie' is an eternal truth. It measures performance over the course of a season not over an isolated 90 minutes. That's what matters and right now we're ahead of Brighton with a game in hand, not that the October table means that much either.

Paynter wasn't needed. If the money is used to improve our defensive options then it would seem a sensible thing to have done to me. The back four's doing OK right now but one injury and I think we'll struggle. Pay Paynter not to play or get a decent right/centre back on loan? No contest.

28 Oct 2011 13:02:00
hope i am wrong,but if smith goes to brighton before leeds we know why he did...

I no why because we got better and dont need him

Smith wouldn't get into the Brighton team, he's far too happy sitting on a pay cheque from Newcastle for doing nothing...

28 Oct 2011 07:09:28
No,not the Alan Smith rumours again. Why would
Simon want Alan Smith for? He has not played 1st
team football for quite sometime.He is not the
player he is before.After his horrofic injury,he only
plays bit parts for Newcastle.Sammy Clingan is a
better choice than Alan Smith.Simon should try
to bring Clingan in during the January transfer
window.Coventry will try to keep him,but rumours
has it that he will be leaving for another club.
Will that club be Leeds.Keep your fingers crossed.
If Howson does not sign,then there's where
Clingan comes in.Clingan and Clayton controlling
the midfield.Awesome.The RB position should be
covered as well.That is where Eric Lichaj comes
in.Connoly is doing well at the moment but I think
Lichaj has much more pace than Conolly.MOT

After seeing Grayson is allowing Paynter to join one of our main rivals on loan, anything is possible.

I am beginning to agree with the 'morons' that we need Grayson out, if he is happy to loan players, gioid or bad to our rivals?

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING HERE?

What the hells wrong with you people,he loans out a player who cant hit a cows arse with a shovel and its calls of Grayson out?,Paynter is out of his depth in this league,better suited to league one,so why keep a player who cant get in the side,hes now freed wages up to hopefully strengthen again,Graysons doing a great job with little money,give it a rest.

A little money he's on 7 grand a week ! I bet people would stop moaning if he used the money to bring that over rated x player back .I can see the text flying in smudgers back get in!sick bowle please .That's wen I would question our manager ,but not when he loans a player out who s on a sizeable wage to team who play against teams around us .It's win win if he scores for fun we will recall him ,and he may turn out to be the player we thought he was going to be

Doesn't matter how good or bad Paynter is, we should not be loaning him out to a rival team, especially one who is sitting just one point below us in the league?

This is sheer stupidity, and Laads are not depserate for someone to pay Paynters wages, so that is no excuse whatsoever.

I just pray that Brighton do not get promoted ahead of us this season, there's still along way to go!