Leeds Banter Archive January 29 2014

29 Jan 2014 23:06:12
Have you seen these links to GFH.

First one board member leaving GFH, 2nd one new board member appointed on 28th Jan. May give reasoning into the takeover change of direction.

http://www.bahrainbourse.net/bb/bse/pdf/PRPressReleases/GFH_20140126_ANEN.pdf

http://www.bahrainbourse.com.bh/bb/bse/pdf/PRPressReleases/GFH_20140128_UPDL.pdf

What happens if GFH don't want to sell?

What are your thoughts lads

Board member leaving=david haigh, either fired him or he resigns over dispute.

How is the board member leaving David Haigh? Considering it says the board member who resigned was Azzim Al Felaij and the reason was due to him joining another bank. It clearly isn't about Haigh or any dispute about LUFC.

crmd

29 Jan 2014 21:52:58
Although I agree we need to make signings why is McD starting diouf over poleon
What has he done wrong he makes an impact everytime he comes on and proved it last night as playing with a st and not two cf's worked

29 Jan 2014 18:32:01
it beats me why some fans continue to defend GFH, they are about to sell our club, players, fans and manager down the river for a few extra quid.GFH don't give a rubbish about any of us all they see is £££££ signs and all people continue to mention is the good things they have done for our club, the good things that have happened to our club is down to mcdermott, he has been the breath of fresh air this club has been lacking for a long time, and he is about to be fired if cellino gets his way, for what, for caring about our club, GFH if you care anything about our club you wouldn't even entertain cellino but you will because its what's best for you you don't care.think about the knock on effect of what would happen should cellino get his hands on us, McDermott sacked, think of the players who would want to leave should that happen, McCormack for one, himself and mcdermott have a very good friendship would he agree with that happening no, he would be gone in summer probably to mcdermotts New club because he would walk straight into another job, so GFH f--k off and march alone because you ain't marching on together with us and neither are you cellino.

Surely it's the consortiums fault not gfh! Gfh are an investment company so are obviously going to sell to the highest bidder! Yeh we don't want McDermott or McCormack to go anywhere, but if this consortium can't find the extra money how would they be able to invest to take us to the next level! Without major investment we have a mid table squad at best!

29 Jan 2014 19:08:42
the consortium have the funds but are not willing to pay the originally agreed fee as something was amiss.

The consortium had to amend there bid due to problems that arose is due diligence, so I beg to differ, is theproblem not gfh, as Andy flowers said selling to cellino would not be in the interest of anyone connected to lufc, also I can see McCormack leaving before Friday due to the uncertainty of wages not been paid and also uncertainty surrounding mcdermott, and who's fault would that be.

If you put a bid in for a property then realised it had rising damp would you pay the asking price no you would offer less, sports capital have done just that, maybe the west stand has rising damp ha ha.

Haigh has been on both sides of this fence, part of GFH in that he is their employee yet he is part of the sports capital takeover. The fact that something unforeseen came up bewilders me as Haigh had a year to see everything but didn't or alternatively saw the problem and kept quiet until the middle of the negotiations the used it as a way to lower the price. This would be seen as treason by GFH and probably why they threw the Teddy's out. Look no further than David Haigh for the cause of this fiasco as GFH will argue that Sports capital via Haigh new all, warts and all or at least should have known. Who ever heard of someone described as an employee taking over a football club anyway?

Or maybe, as part of due diligence, they found a grey bearded old git still had his mucky fingerprints all over LUFC!

29 Jan 2014 17:51:56
As we have lost Luke Varney to Blackburn, we should look at Bobby Zamora as QPR have said he can leave.

Bobby is in the Bentley/Pennant mould. counting down the days to retirement. doesn't have the passion we need any more.

Bobby Zamora! Are you Drunk?

29 Jan 2014 17:09:14
If I were a betting man, which I'm not, I would bet a pound to a penny that the problems encountered in due diligence by Sporting Capital were a residue from Cuddly Ken.

Strange that GFH never picked up on it when they did their due diligence.

Does anyone else think that the deal with Cellino is done and that the announcement will be made after transfer window closes so that BMD can't bring any more players in? What do you think Ed?

BMD is certainly stressed and with good reason. just hope he hangs on and this mess sorts itself out sooner rather than later. All those lucky enough to get to ER for future games, get behind the team and BMD they need us now more than ever. MOT Ron.

Why did it take so long for the deal with Bates to go through then? These things cropped up then and GFH though they could hide it when trying to sell. Value has gone down so Sports Capital want price to fall - Makes sense really

NA Brian's a gonner, you watch!

I wonder what Mr Peter Ridsdale is doing at the moment?, I think DAVID Oleary is claiming Job Seekers Allowance.
Big Mark.

29 Jan 2014 14:48:22
Everybody`s worried to death by this italian bloke.

Let�s not forget that all sources say he�s VERY popular with the Cagliary fans - and has stayed popular for two decades! That doesn`t seem like a new uncle Ken in disguise, does it? He`s also been in ONE club only for these two decades, sounds to me as both stability and stayer ability? And his recent "criminal record" is all about trying to secure his club a modern stadium to play in, plans sardinian buraucracy has obstructed in every way possible.

I agree I woud prefer a takover by the original consortium. But we know nothing about their financial muscles, their short and long term plans or their ability to take this club forward. The takeover mess does`t pay them too much credit in this respect, does it?

I`ll wellcome the italian, if he has the money, the right plan - and respect for our history, tradition and supporters. If he turns out "a Stalin" it`s ok - if he brings financial stability! If he ends up with criminal charges for trying to secure our Elland Road cathedral or Thorps Arch church, it`s OK as well. More worried about his record of sacking managers. Still interesting to read that some of these axed managers are still close friends of him? So the man has FRIENDS among supportes and former business assosiates - doesn`t remind of uncle Ken that either?

The GFH era and the recent takeover chaos only proves we supporters know far to little to judge potential ownerships and their ability to bring our club back to life!

What`s importent is to get this bloody takeover a done business, that new owner has the money needed, and the interest and will to lead and feed this club long term! If Cellino fits this description, I`ll pay his ticket from Miami!

Good post. Your right about most of that. We just NEED that good news now

I agree buddy a consortium of what 5 people? are scrimping over what I imagine could only be a few hundred thousand maybe couple million ( any larger and i'm sure they would have noticed by now) f they can't complete te deal over a small amount like that then frankly they don't have the financial power to move the club forward, were going to need to take bigger risks with money then that.
If the Italian comes in ill be pretty happy, knowledgeable, rich well connected man who i'm sure will love the history and tradition here. no doubt.

Exactly. I can't imagine why anyone would be concerned that the guy trying to buy the club is a convicted fraudster with outstanding embezzlement and false representation charges!

Cellino has got a snowballs chance in hell of passing the FA's fit and proper persons test.

Be careful what you wish for .

29 Jan 2014 13:07:25
Ed there are various rumors on socail network saying we are at risk of going into administration. Has this been reported anywhere, or is it just a rumour that is snowballing .

{Ed013's Note - I would say a knee-jerk reaction from Chinese whispers. Leeds have 2-3 potential buyers and could rush it through at any time as long as it meets all of the football league criteria. If things were that bad I think McCormack would have been sold}

^ There's still time for that yet, Ed!

{Ed013's Note - Always a chance}

Thought so, its just annoying that this is being banded around.

Lets hope we can get this sorted today / tomorrow to allow BMD some deadline day deals. Although, we can still bring in on loan I guess after a week or so.

DS

Get sorted today or tomorrow?! Even my optimism has been worn down to stage where not expecting to complete any time soon and certainly not before Friday! GFH simply don't care enough about future of Club to rush anything through!

29 Jan 2014 12:53:28
Ups and downs. let's get behind our team and our players. We are Leeds!

We're not famous anymore, bristol city supporters club are holding an anniversary celebration of the match they beat us in 74. So sad. Small club.

Crmd

29 Jan 2014 12:00:40
Leeds will not be taken over this month. Leeds will not make another signing this month. When will we learn to stop getting our hopes up. We are Leeds United, nothing is easy here. It's starting to ruin things on the pitch. Get behind what we already have or we will see ourselves in the basement of league 1 again playing the likes of Shrewsbury and Walsall. We really aren't far away from that again. Same old story every single window. JNLUFC

Chill out son it ain't that bad

Sorry I can't agree with the second post about it not being that bad - we are a complete shambles at the moment, if Flowers has left the consortium and wants his money back the only way that can happen is to sell players or hand the club to the Italian ( which would be a disaster) - we are in trouble

Why would the Italian be that bad, like to see every bodies attitude if he gave the club 20 million to spend and took us up he would be a god, we need an owner with millions to spend and I for one don't care who it is

Be very careful what you wish for!
If Sports Capital can't get the deal done, then by far the best option would be the Farnan/Pearson/Verity/Radebe consortium.

29 Jan 2014 11:30:25
Beware of what you wish for. Nearly every day for months and months people have been coming on this site slating Brown and Varney amongst others. Brown and Varney always put in a shift and were the difference against Leicester. Brown was one of the very few who came out with any credit against Ipswich. Warnock was the other one. Play Diouff, Poleon, and Murphy was the shout. don't THINK SO. Get rid of Varney-DONT THINK SO BUT ITS TOO LATE NOW. Play Mowatt and Murphy together in the same mid field. don't THINK SO. Get rid of Austin. DEFINITELY DON'T THINK SO - JUST PLAY HIM WHERE HE IS COMFORTABLE - DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD.HE'S FINE THERE.
Bring in wingers- any wingers. don't THINK SO. PANIC BUYING IS NEVER GOOD BUSINESS.
Be careful what you ask for you might get it. Remember Ridsdale was the fans favourite until they got the facts. Nothing changes. Bates, Warnock(Neil), GKH and now possibly an Italian. Roll on Huddersfield. Nothing Changes!

Good post mate, all these posters pulling Varney an co to bits are clueless. After the sh*t he's had don't blame him for wanting out.

29 Jan 2014 13:02:18
Interestingly something did change! Timely substitutions, an attempt to change the game to our advantage - mix it up a bit! Maybe not the desired effect but it showed that BMD had a go! A point is better than none and we gave it a go, more importantly we ensured some more squad members got some match time in! Even with all the unrest and confusion at the club, we still keep going. MOT. Chin up! Let's take it to the udders.

Totally agree with you,

if the whole team put the same effort Varney and Brown put in, we would be a much better team, sometimes it looks like a lot of player get complacent and don't put their shift in.

I think what's happened here us fans were stupidly expecting that all our players would give 100%. like most players in most teams, therefore overlooking their performance levels and looking purely at skill and quality there's no doubt those players you've just mentioned lack in these departments, I've been calling to see diouf in the team but after being told he can leave and looking pretty damn fat he's got nothing going for him now, on the flip side though why the hell did bmd play him? dom done more within a couple of minutes of coming on

29 Jan 2014 11:24:06
How did kebe and steward get on vs Ipswich, I didn't see the game? Cheers

I don't think they saw the game either

In a word? rubbish!!

Kebe was awful throughout. Why he wasn't subbed only BMD knows. Stewart started off as bad but got a little better, not much, and went down for the penalty. He was going nowhere and the ball was going out of play. Their defender therefore cost them the points just as much as Kenny did for us.

Kebe was awful but no worse than anyone else. and the Steward near me had to be woken up after the final whistle.

29 Jan 2014 09:49:55
Another one of many lies or weird facts about the TO is the Italian who says he is merely an advisor to Sport Capital yet Flowers has criticized him publicly AND states he is GFH preferred prospective bidder. These are all bad businessmen. If he was an advisor, did it not occur to SC to get him to sign something to prohibit a rival bid? Why did Flowers bring him on in first place? Surely a bad person to own makes for bad person to advise?! What on earth is going on at ER?!

Having this italian bloke as an advisor for over the takeover would be like having stalin as an advisor to amnesty international. Complete and utter rubbish the whole saga.

Like the Stalin comment. But we have only Mr Cellino´s word for his "advisor" role. Probably not been contacted as an advisor at all?

Not giving any credit to despots like Stalin, but one thing you can not take from him: he brought STABILITY to an empire for quite a long period of time - methods not approven though.

Eh? maybe because he doesn't want to fuel media speculation? haha ( or did you want him to say i'm just hanging about if the deal falls through so I can jump in)

29 Jan 2014 08:29:09
Is anyone else concerned about relegation? Bearing in mind we probably need another 20 points to be safe. The takeover is a complete shambles so it doesn't look like we will have any new players coming in and I'm afraid with our current squad and confidence at an all time low I just don't see where these points are going to come from . I hope I'm wrong but as it stands I'm very worried MOT

Actually I am NOT concerned about relegation - if BMD stays. If he`s sacked, or get sick of this rubbish and leaves (unlikely I think, not in his personality!) THEN I will be more than concerned!

29 Jan 2014 04:39:02
Superb article describing plight and current predicament of our club on RITGK

29 Jan 2014 02:29:37
WTF? Flowers, sport capital and co changed their offer. Why is everyone slating GFH for this? The deal was suppose to be done and with the football league. You can't just dig for holes then decrease the offer, ffs if they had the fans at heart they would of just swallowed their pride. I would rather the Italian guy took us over, but not just %75 but all %100. You know just one owner and then Haigh, Flowers, sport capital and GFH can all p*ss off. Obviously I would prefer a billionaire lufc fan but its not gunna happen. Risdale then Bates then these clowns, utter garbage all over ER at the moment, MOT sort of, Vinny.

Thats exactly what you do when buying something and find its not as advertised. Have you never bought a house? Pretty common practice really. The issue should be DH. He is managing director at the club so should already have been aware of any potential issues.

29 Jan 2014 09:06:50
would you want to buy something that wasnt exactly how it was advertised.

Bates is still there some were lurking like a bad smell, I still think he's in the back ground

29 Jan 2014 11:31:58
Surely David haigh would know all ins and outs at the club! He spent what seemed like years doing dd only 12 months ago and has runclub since and most Leeds fans want him to continue running the club? Bring in the Italians I say!

Maybe haig and co have created this problem during their time in charge? seems bizzare all of a sudden there's a problam

29 Jan 2014 00:40:11
If Cellino bids for the club, how in the name of Billy Bremner and John Charles does he hope to pass the fit and proper test? Don't GFH know this? Why do they even bother with him? Complete farce. There's a circus in the town.

Suppose he just puts the club in his son's name, can't imagine the football league could penalize someone for the stuff their family does.

Thus the advising only from Cellino.

I guess we can all just hope that a) he has learnt from all the numerous mistakes at cagliari or b) the son has a better temperament

Don't think the old trick of putting in son name will please or get passed by FL who will be weary of things like nominee ownership and shadow directorships.

Why won't he pass? he's run a club for the last 20 years and I assume made some money in the process while getting them promoted.
couple of dodgy dealing regarding stadium (property, what's this got to do with the club I bet the ground will be under a separate company or something, i'm sure he's got what is required to run the club no worse then the current lot anyway ha