Leeds Banter Archive November 29 2018

29 Nov 2018 15:24:40
I know everyone is a little tired of Alioski and would like to see him dropped for at least one game.

But who do you play? Clarke can't do 90 minutes yet, Harrison has fallen out of favour in recent matches.

We had the option to drop Saiz for Forshaw to make him 'up his game' unfortunately we don't have that option with Alioski yet.

Honestly, I think Bielsa is counting the days down until Bamford and Brown bring more options to the wide and striker roles.

29 Nov 2018 16:59:49
Clarke struggled to do 90 yards without a rest.

29 Nov 2018 17:09:47
I can’t wait for Sats game . Love to see what Bielsa has learnt from the West Brom game for these tougher matches. Do we throw everything at them at the start with Clarke and Saiz taking them on? I thought there were signs on Tuesday that these two could have a great partnership. Clarke, Saiz and Hernadez is definitely attack minded.

Or do we start with a more defensive approach, hope to hold them and bring the threats on later in the game. In which case start with, Alioski or Harrison and Forshaw, Klich and KP, assuming Pontus starts.

Or a compromise, Saiz but no Clarke?

In the under 23 game Harrison was playing wing back, perhaps testing him out to give us more options.

29 Nov 2018 18:24:34
I'm quite content seeing Gjanni play first half and Jack the second. We know both players' weaknesses but 45 minutes each could be the way forward for the remainder of the season.

29 Nov 2018 18:33:00
Start with Clarke then bring Alioski on when we are 2-0 up. SU are doing well but think they will struggle at the back against our style. I have faith in our defence to blunt their attack. Do not expect them to be in top six come April.

29 Nov 2018 19:09:40
Bige Usually agree with you bro but disagree on both counts. I quite enjoy watching energetic Clarke give opposition defenders a hard time when they've already played a 45. Playing him from the start might not work as well. The Blades shall be top 6 come May. They're not to be underestimated. Dangerous team. I'm slightly biased because of my affinity with the city but I'm letting you know I think they're a good team and they play with passion.

29 Nov 2018 19:51:20
i agree with goegre at the moment i think alosiki first clarke second is our best answe and I don't want to see that diving scumbag ever play for leeds again but needs must.

29 Nov 2018 21:40:38
Berm get over it. They a try con the ref. Look at the penalty we conceded when the striker was allready going to ground before BPF touched him. Think it was against Brentford. I'm against diving too but if he'd of got a penalty for it everyone would have said what comes around goes around and it all balances out. I'd rather not see it but it's modern football for you. Look at PSG. The other day? Play acting you would of been proud of.

29 Nov 2018 21:49:28
Wow I agree as well Alioski and then Clarke! But I do think Alioski was more stupid than evil! It wasn’t even a good dive! Is diving blatantly worse than spitting! And we’ve taken Samu back into our hearts!

29 Nov 2018 22:05:12
I agree Martyn. I suspect there are lot of other players a lot better at cheating than Alioski. His acting is as bad as his offside radar!

29 Nov 2018 22:30:56
So what he dived, he was getting tired. Happens every week some one falls over. Roofe scored with his hand other week but all were happy to let that one pass.

29 Nov 2018 23:37:41
Bloody hell. I agree with George!
Alioski made a mistake, a one that no Leeds fan likes, but his effort and passion every game counters that mistake in my mind. Unless he’s properly chopped, I don’t think we will see him go down easily again. He strikes me as that type of character; he’ll be embarrassed. And Clarke, definitely a second half game changer until he’s fit enough to compete with the big boys.

30 Nov 2018 00:17:49
Spaniard Quite right. Maybe he should visit my mechanic for an alignment.

30 Nov 2018 08:58:31
Agree George SU are a decent team that's why i think Clarke should start this game. If they get on top in the first 30 minutes it will be game over. Alioski is under so much pressure at the moment what with his form and the dive he will benefit from being on the bench then coming on second half, that's how i see it anyway. Even though they are a good side i can not see them lasting through the winter with the games they have to play.

30 Nov 2018 13:16:29
If it is to be then I think Alioski first as his ability to track back will help in the initial pressure that there is bound to be. They will come charging at us, running everywhere to cramp our style (can see us going 1-0 down, AGAIN) but come the second half they will have, hopefully, run out of steam and be ripe for a good old roasting from Clarke.

30 Nov 2018 13:33:36
diving is an annoying part of the game but until FIFA do something to stamp it out (like retrospective bans or VAR) it will continue to be a factor so i say let's use it if we can. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

30 Nov 2018 14:12:52
If we follow that idea Alf, we’re going to need to buy some better actors than Alioski!

30 Nov 2018 16:59:47
Saiz to start, Alioski or Harrison first half or 60 minutes then put Clarke on.

29 Nov 2018 12:07:50
How on earth does someone score 5 away from home and still not return with 3 points?

29 Nov 2018 13:31:24
Crap defence?

29 Nov 2018 18:07:28
That there John Terry is a crap defence coach then.

29 Nov 2018 20:55:35
JT must be a really poor defensive coach, I mean, conceding 5 at home to the bloody florists? first time they've scored 5 in how long?

29 Nov 2018 23:38:20
Hilarious, innit!?

29 Nov 2018 08:44:20
Message for Bermo! don't go on fb All leeds aren't we page! They all have KP playing for England soon! Reckon Southgate loves a ball playing CB 😲 Better get tattoo shop booked in mate! 🤣😎.

29 Nov 2018 09:37:01
ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

still very confident in my backsides safty. Maybe in a freindly but never in a competitive game, even more confident to find other professionals views on KP. When it never happens I think a few should have my face on their backsides! lucky I am rather handsome!

29 Nov 2018 10:29:12
There is not one single element of truth in that post matey.
I’d say KP has about an 80% chance of playing for England.

29 Nov 2018 11:58:57
I thought about you t'other day Berms when Phil Hay predicted that good old Kalvin is a Leeds Captain of the future - I jest not. He's got better by all means, but Captain, really?

29 Nov 2018 13:51:27
I can see captian in many ways, KP speaks well, trys 100% and could make a good captain but not if leeds are going up or going to think about going up.

I have thought about it, i don't dislike Kp i dislike people who can not see he can't cope with the better teams due to his lack of physical attributes. the type who call me out when he plays well agsinst rotherham wigain etc. but go missing or attack me when he gets subbed first half, goes missing against west brom or goes off the pitch before we get the equalisier

he is a great passer but awful athelete and lacks the attrbutes needed, which is fine until people start calling him out for england or the prem, KP is great for any middle table champ team, personally I hope leeds aim higher.

29 Nov 2018 15:52:45
I think you want joe 90 mate.
I think Bielsa has suddenly made some prem teams think.
That’s a good system. Who can we play there?
Who you going to call?

29 Nov 2018 17:04:14
Berm, we got a few in our squad and team that play well against your so called lesser teams, but seems you love to bash KP. Not really heard you give many others a bad time. Can't recall you giving Alioski as much stick!

29 Nov 2018 17:17:18
An awful athlete? Really? This season he has been, on the whole, great for us and we’re not currently a middle of the table championship side.
My personal view is Never to write anyone off in life, they can always suprise you. I don’t think the die is cast on his future career and I hope he makes the most of it.

29 Nov 2018 19:57:30
mezzer your right a lot of our team play well against lesser teams and can't handle the big boys, in fact most fall into this, I bash Kp as he is the only one being championed as future england player and prem quality, the moment you all link alski with spurs or cooper for england I will start to bang my they ain't that good drum. Alsoki is dead to me after that dive

Spanish yes an awful athlete maybe the slowest player in the league, the lad can play and can pass (really pass) but as soon as we play anyone decent he lacks the phiscal ability to influence the game, anyone quicker than my nan can waltz past him and he is always out of position due to the game passing him by, this happens every time and will every time he just don't have it in him. if he was 20% quicker he would be 80% better as he would cope and then be able to be good in every game. Give him time space he wil rip you apart run at him or put presure on him and he will not be upto task.

lots of our players are like KP decent but not promotion quality, that is why i think we won't go up. But many seem to think the local lad is the second coming and has the sun straticgly placed up his back side. which would explain why he is slower than a turtle with a hernia.

29 Nov 2018 20:58:57
I don't think that Cooper will get an England call, Scotland on the other hand ;)

29 Nov 2018 21:04:27
Berm, I agree our team is made up with a lot of maybe average player's, many of them appeared to withdraw their labour towards the businesses end of last season. We maybe don't have the star's that some of our rivals in this league do. But what we do have is a coach/ manager who is getting every ounce out of these average player's this season. KP being one of the main players doing his bit to the best of his ability. Maybe he isn't going to make the next England world cup team but I don't care. He is putting on a Leeds kit and doing what is asked of him, Yes many of us would like Radz to splash the cash and buy great quality players. This just isn't going to happen unless we reach the premiership, until then we got the players we have. Let's stop knocking them as this is us this season.

{Ed025's Note - good post that mezzer..

29 Nov 2018 21:20:36
Bermondsey, got to put your hands up when you've got it wrong.
I felt the same about kp last season and I'm happy to be proved wrong. He's been 1st or
2nd best performer in our last 5/ 6 games, don't think it's a fluke, just great man management and coaching plus a player willing to learn and improve and improve he as!
Getting boring, you repeating yourself again and again. get behind the lad.

29 Nov 2018 22:00:31
To be fair, I think of a lot of the premiership and England stuff is to wind you up and it seems to work! We’ve only lost three games and he has been pretty much constant. We haven’t got a better alternative and I don’t think buying one will be a priority. I just want him to play as well as he can and develop as much as he can this year and actually, I think that will be enough. If we don’t go up, I don’t think he will be the reason. Interested to see how he does on Saturday, I think George is right, it’s going to be a tough game. I’d settle for a point but I suspect Bielsa won’t! So well either win or lose!

30 Nov 2018 00:21:44
Mezzanine Ed025 right. Good post.