Leeds Banter Archive April 02 2013

 

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02 Apr 2013 22:56:16
bring mcdermott in plus naylor as no 2cmon!!

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02 Apr 2013 22:47:49
I had a drink with phill Parkinson last night (very nice bloke) he spoke about him and Brian McDermott being good pals and said he wouldn't be suprised to see him at elland road before too long. Would be a great appointment!

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02 Apr 2013 22:25:36
When the new manager comes in he will take one look at his squad and think in the name of The Lord what have I done. JD

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I hope we don't sign a manager who hasn't even looked at a team sheet. If that's the case god help us!

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03 Apr 2013 13:39:15
The squad we have is capable of a lot higher position than what they managed this season. Just need better management. Warnock seemed to make substitutions and change tactics at the wrong time.
We need about 5 players to challenge for promotion but they have to be the right type of player (specialist in a specific position ) rather than the type Warnock brought in that could play several positions.

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02 Apr 2013 21:04:24
I just feel we need a new manager asap as opposed to redfearn no disrespect intended, the man is a top bloke. 6 games to go relegation battle we just need that calming figure in the dressing room and I think that man is mcdermott, he was reading chief scout in the past and was the man who brought Kevin Doyle and Shane long to the club they both cost only 80k a piece and were sold for a total figure of 13m, could be useful with the limited resources he will have at leeds.

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02 Apr 2013 21:55:30
Got to be a younger, hungry guy for me. Martinez, Poyet or even Eddie Howe. Not keen on 'experience' like Bruce, Hughes, McLaren, Keane or any other Manchester United reject. Older guys happy with a salary. younger guys keen to plan and dream of creating a legacy.

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02 Apr 2013 20:54:21
I would love oleary back, look what he did with youth players when he was ere last time and yes ok needs cash as well, I can dream eh! MOT

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O'Leary would get the crowds back and no doubt do a job. He was fantastically astute with bringing kids into the team and developing them BUT he had a different class of kid back then. I saw dawson on sunday, and yes he put a valliant performance in but he's just too flyweight for the big lads. He was shoved off the ball every challenge. It was as if we'd kept a mascot on the pitch. Get the lad some protein shakes and beef him up a bit and he's got a future.
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02 Apr 2013 19:52:41
There won't be a new manager till the summer, expect Redfearn to be in charge till the summer break. No chairman is going to let their manager go to another club and disrupt their team with 2 months left of the season even if Leeds pay mega bux which we haven't got. We may get someone like O'Neill or Hughes as they are unattached but I doubt they will come to us in our current league position.

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02 Apr 2013 21:04:46
I hope waiting till the end of the season does not have anything to do with Tony Pulis, he would be as bad as Hughes. Raddy Antic has entered the betting at 28/1 today, could be a good outside bet.

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02 Apr 2013 19:36:58
cmon brian and bring harty with u!

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02 Apr 2013 18:32:41
now a lot of fans have got there wish and we are looking for a new manager let's start by pulling togetther as fans and give whoever comes in a chance! dnt just blame warnock players have got to hold their heads in shame most of them dnt deserve to wear the famous white shirt!! nickybee

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Most of them won't be here next season and they know that and I think their future will be decided in the remaining matches and ore season by the new manager even if he isn't here by the end of the season

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Player changes next season
Kenny will probably stay as he is okay but nothing special and won't worry the new manager so he will stay
Peltier may or may not be here as there is still quite clearly a problem at the back and he is the weak link
Lees, byram, white and warnock will still be here their strong at the back
Tonge, won't be here as he has been poor recently and was only good when he was on loan
Brown, no chance
Green, good enough to stay I think
Norris will probably be dropped which saddens me because he's good on fifa
Austin is rock solid and when he recoups his fitness he will be a cult hero
McCormack, diouf and Morison should stay but one more goal scorer is needed
Varney has got no chance, he sickens me, he laughs when he makes a mistake, dives, misses all the time, fouls and worst of all he point blankly refuses to clap the fans which is a disgrace.
Ryan hall no chance
Habibou will just leave

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Brown, no chance
TOTALLY AGREE!

Austin is rock solid and when he recoups his fitness he will be a cult hero
AGAIN AGREE!

Ryan hall no chance
he SHOULD BE GIVEN THAT CHANCE!

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I am sorry but Austin not good enough. Agree with most of what you said but not sure White is good enough at the back.

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Yeah maybe in the next few games he should be given a chance but I didn't see the point in signing him as he wasn't ripping up league 2 and he's hardly up and coming

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Austin isn't good enough now but before the injury he was briliant, fast, strong and had a good shot and I think he may get that back ready for next season

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And white is still young so I wouldn't get rid of him because he may become a superstar with the right development, Stephen warnock will help him

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Austin is been used has a holding midfielder that's not his position he needs to be playing further forward because once he starts running with the ball not many will get in his way i'm not judging the beast until next season

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02 Apr 2013 21:04:38
I don't think there will be many leaving as players like tonge, brown, Norris Pearce, Peltier, white, hall and varney are all good players to have on the bench.
First team players from this season that will still be first team next season.
Kenny, byram, lees, Warnock, Austin, green, McCormack, morison.
Players to be in and around first team next season.
Dawson, Taylor, poleon

We need a center back and a creative center midfielder and probably 2 wingers and a striker

Austin has played over 1 and a half seasons so was going to get tired.
He will of strengthened up in his pre season just enough to last that season but came to Leeds and had to start again.

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Can't remember Austin being good at any point. He goes missing for much of the game. Our midfield is almost the worst ever to play for Leeds. Mark my words Norris, Green, Brown, Tonge and Austin will not be in the new managers team that starts next season. JD

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Austin one of the worst players I've seen play for Leeds. Tries hard but has no ability!

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Baffled by the Austin hero-worship on here - you must all be watching a different player from me. Can't pass to save his life. He is truly awful. Yes he puts in the effort but so what? No point winning the ball when, nine times out if ten, you give it straight back to the other team. {Ed013's Note - I have to agree}

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Morison to stay! Are you nuts.
He's the biggest waste of space in the squad. can't jump, consistently out of position, slow, lazy.
Give me Varney anytime, at least he tries to look busy.

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With service Morison will score as he has proven, he very rarely gets an opportunity but when he has he's finished expertly

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"Morison to stay! Are you nuts.
He's the biggest waste of space in the squad"

Er, you're wrong there, Brown has that distinct honour, totally unchallenged.

At least Morrison doesn't deliberately try and get himself sent off every time he plays.

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02 Apr 2013 18:27:15
one thing I would say to any of our young players who
might be on the radar of prem league teams, look at
the young players who have moved in recent years where are they now, a sub on a bench at best!

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Not just the young players take a look at becchio not even getting a sniff at carrot road gone from being a cult hero with are fans to nothing shame really always liked luciano

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Becchio must have know he was going there to be a bench warmer. I doubt it was the attraction of football that led him more like the money. Hey who wouldn't sit on their ass for 25K a week?
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02 Apr 2013 17:43:12
Okay, let's have a think about the manger situation. Any manager worth having is going to ask questions like: okay so GFH aren't in this for the long haul. They've said so. One 10% investment doesn't take matters much further. Are there any ongoing further negotiations and if so how realistic is the prospect on closure? Within what timescale? What funds if any will be released for player purchase as opposed to buying off Bates, vanity projects etc?

I've a horrible feeling that the answers would be off-putting. Poyet would suit nicely except I can't believe the present owners are willing or able to pay the substantial compensation Brighton would want. Owners with deep pockets and long term plans do that sort of thing. Fail on both counts. Di Matteo would suit nicely too but he would want a very substantial salary and lots of money to build a quality team. Fail on both counts again.

O'Neill - a lot of the lustre has rubbed off. Not as attractive as he would have been ten years ago. Hughes? If there is anyone at GFH with two brain cells to rub together he may have noted that the supporters are alienated and angry enough anyway.

Which leaves McDermott. Everyone except the bloke who owns Reading thinks his sacking was rough. His promotion season with them is something we can only fantasise about at present. He thinks out of the box - a bit of originality would be good!

And he would take the job. What's not to like?

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"okay so GFH aren't in this for the long haul. They've said so"

No they haven't! They are looking for fellow investors.

What is wrong with you people?

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GFH (parent company) said in its annual acounts to December 31 "The group has an active plan to sell its stake in LUFC Holdings Limited, and accordingly, the asset and liabilities acquired were classified as held for sale and presented in the consolidated statement of financial position". This is the house style - buy and 'flip' - sell at a profit as fast as possible. Everything they have done is consistent with this view - and stated policy. Subsequently, GFH CAPITAL (subsidiary company) have been on a 'strategic investors' gig and have said that they do not intend to sell. Two points:
1. Who outranks who? The one who in a serious document has stated they intend to sell, that's who. 'Held for sale' it says. GFH (as opposed to GFH Capital)have never contradicted the statement in their annual accounts
2. GFH Capital can strike the pose that they don't intend to sell just as much as they like. But if/when their parent company decides to sell what can they do but comply even in the unlikely event that they had other plans?
Nothing. The phrase 'double bluff' springs to mind.

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02 Apr 2013 21:10:14
That doesn't mean they will sell the full club straight away. They are just saying they intend to sell there stake at some point which they have said since they bought the club. Maybe they will sell 60% this season and a bit more next and so on until eventually its all gone.

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02 Apr 2013 17:14:44
can anybody explain why di matteo is not even in the betting for the next manager of lufc they said they wanted someone young look what he did at west brom got them promoted and a top 10 finish then took over at chelsea and did very well with them won the cup and unfairley dismised imo thoughts please.

mr bell whites forever

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This is what I said the other day on here.

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02 Apr 2013 19:32:33
Probably cost too much and probably too good for championship

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Since when did the bookies ever get a football manager right?

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$$$$$$$$$$$$ - that's the problem :p

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02 Apr 2013 17:43:12
Okay, let's have a think about the manger situation. Any manager worth having is going to ask questions like: okay so GFH aren't in this for the long haul. They've said so. One 10% investment doesn't take matters much further. Are there any ongoing further negotiations and if so how realistic is the prospect on closure? Within what timescale? What funds if any will be released for player purchase as opposed to buying off Bates, vanity projects etc?

I've a horrible feeling that the answers would be off-putting. Poyet would suit nicely except I can't believe the present owners are willing or able to pay the substantial compensation Brighton would want. Owners with deep pockets and long term plans do that sort of thing. Fail on both counts. Di Matteo would suit nicely too but he would want a very substantial salary and lots of money to build a quality team. Fail on both counts again.

O'Neill - a lot of the lustre has rubbed off. Not as attractive as he would have been ten years ago. Hughes? If there is anyone at GFH with two brain cells to rub together he may have noted that the supporters are alienated and angry enough anyway.

Which leaves McDermott. Everyone except the bloke who owns Reading thinks his sacking was rough. His promotion season with them is something we can only fantasise about at present. He thinks out of the box - a bit of originality would be good!

And he would take the job. What's not to like?

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02 Apr 2013 17:14:44
can anybody explain why di matteo is not even in the betting for the next manager of lufc they said they wanted someone young look what he did at west brom got them promoted and a top 10 finish then took over at chelsea and did very well with them won the cup and unfairley dismised imo thoughts please.

mr bell whites forever

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02 Apr 2013 16:19:44
neil said "it was his hardest year in 33yrs of management"

i say "it was the worst leeds team I've seen in 33yrs"

mot

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Not quite, but very close.

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Come on then name a worse side than the one we have at present

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The one billy Brenner assembled with Brian somebody, from Donny in it.

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Some of Graysons teams were pretty dire too.

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02 Apr 2013 15:58:34
has Warnock been snapped up by Norwich yet as their Director of Hoofball?

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02 Apr 2013 15:55:04
I am so pleased warnock has gone, I feel a weight has been lifted and optimism is in the air.
I reckon Martinez could do a good job for us, the budget is always tight at wigan and he has them playing in the top league in the world all beit at the wrong end of the division, but I would still swap league positions with them.

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Me too, they are in line for millions of pounds in parachute payments for FAILURE!!!

How the f**k does that happen?

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02 Apr 2013 15:49:24
In yep today it says Leeds are
unlikely to sign a new manager before
season ends, I thought the plan was to
give the new manager time with the squad
have a few games.

So what's going to happen is all the good managers
Get picked off an we'll end up with a poorer manager
Great hope it gets solved soon

Lufc jimmy

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YEP don't have a clue, they just regugitate anything and everything that is pushed out anywhere else.

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02 Apr 2013 15:37:35
I'm starting to believe that the manager that gets Leeds promoted doesn't need to be a hero but a miracle worker. Where do we go from here?

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We get a new manager who knows what he's doing, get behind him and the team and move on, McDermott, Poyet, or Coyle would do a good job, the nucleus of a good team are already there, some good younsters coming through, some decent invetment on 3 or 4 players and we should mount a better challenge for promotion next year.

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Naylor would be a good start in my eyes.

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Not in my eyes.

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Naylor hasn't put a foot wrong yet, where is your problem?

You'd probably never have wanted Revie in charge had you been old enough to been around?

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02 Apr 2013 14:24:26
I am caught between suggesting a 'proven' manager or someone who is learning the trade and is hungry for success.
O'neill looks like he has had enough and doesn't look anything like the manager he was. Poyet, Di Matteo and/or anyone doing reasonably well in their present job wouldn't want to come to Leeds at this moment in time. (Fans applaud you when you arrive, no money is available Fans get on your back when it goes pear shaped). Having said that never liked Warnock - He wasn't a Leeds supporter -opposite in fact.
So what is Left? Naylor? He would be an absolute shot in the dark. Could be great - might be awful. Fans can call for his appointment as they have nothing to lose. If it goes wrong just blame the board then call for someone else. No 'proven' manager has really done well at ER unless you go back to George Graham who saved us from the drop and paved the way for O'Leary. Everyone else have failed - sometimes quite dramatically.
So, on balance, if anyone at the club knows anything about football management and can see at least some potential in Naylor I would go for him even though all previous ex players barring one has done badly. Failing that McDermott - if he could be persuaded to come. Poyet is a non starter, O'neill and Curbishly are past it. Di Matteo wouldn't touch us. All that could change if the owners were prepared to spend millions. Unfortunately we won't know whether they will until it happens - unless, of course, they are stupid/naive. If they are really stupid they could consider Mark Hughes. The only reason I would ask for my season ticket money back.
Naylor it is then!!

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Kind of agree, but, if after the start of the season we're not winning games he will risk being sacked
I really can't form my opinion. do we give someone a go for 18 months regardless of the results, or, do we aim for instant results and keep turning over managers

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I have been thinking the exact same, my head says proven manager but my heart says young and hungry, I think i'm leaning towards young and hungry after all we've nothing else to lose.

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02 Apr 2013 14:00:00
One online bookie has Neil Young at 40/1, no mention though of Crosby, Stills or Nash ;)

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I work with Neil and he said he's holding out for the Madrid job.

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He does have a heart of gold.

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02 Apr 2013 13:54:53
not feeling mcdermot to be honestt

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02 Apr 2013 17:59:47
His reading team always seemed to get better as the season went on unlike our team which just gets worse so hope if he does get the job he can make us perform.

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02 Apr 2013 12:50:20
I'd just like to state a point. Everyone's going on that we need a high profile manager with a proven track record of success and/or stature, right? Well look at the actual managers that we've enjoyed REAL tastes of success with - Revie, Wilkinson, O'Leary (the latter controversial but still, while it lasted eh?) ALL were relatively unproven/nobodies and left legends, never again to repeat their own successes they had at Leeds.

On the other hand, the track record of so called 'proven' managers? To name a few, Clough, Venables, Reid, Blackwell, Wise, Warnock. All absolutely terrible, let's face it.

Look at the success Richard Naylors had with the Jnrs. what's to say he couldn't do the same with the first team given the chance?

However, in my honest opinion, I think McDermott could do a good job for us, I don't care if he's boring, I just want a team that can play good football and keep it consistent. Martin O'Neill also has a habit of sulking like Warnock, but i'm sure with the right backing from the board they'd both do well.

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Spot on - we need Mcdermott a man who gets on with his job and knows how to keep his mouth shut -after Warnock it will seem all quiet and peacefull

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O Leary was extremely lucky with the squad he had. He hasn't done anything since has he so I wouldn't call him a legend

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"Clough, Venables, Reid, Blackwell, Wise, "

All best forgotten had no interest in Leeds whatsoever, just like Warnock and Bates really?

If everything else fails, give it Naylor.

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"after Warnock it will seem all quiet and peacefull"

I still seriously do not get Warnock?

He drove Becchio out of the team, je slammed Lees last weekend and then he walks away from leeds?

I'll go for the peace and quiet option thank you.

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02 apr 2013 12:10:00
i understand fans asking for youth to be included in a game, but yesterday against derby was the wrong time to put dawson in. an importamt game like that, where we needed experience (however bad-footy wise)tonge would have been a better choice. a win yesterday, more importantly would have guaranteed us staying in the championship. i'm all for blooding our youth, but at the right stage of the season. again proved yesterday, all the top teams lost or drew, so a playoff place was also up for grabs, but more importantly staying in the championship and not a relegation battle - personally, i think there's a lot worse teams who will go down, but a win yesterday would have guaranteed staying up. play our youth, when we cannot go down, or achieve a top six finish. yesterday was our last chance at 6th spot-happy warnock has gone, did not play players in their respective positions at the start of the season, then when he's realisedhis error, he's hit with suspensions/injuries. ross at cardiff was a big injury for us & the biggest was selling becchio, even though our footy got better, we miss him putting that ball in the back of the net. morison not good enough/not enough time to bed in (excuse maybe). we need a midfield general with a brain, who can tackle, stay on his feet, and spray the ball out to wide men, to cross for ross & morison. {Ed013's Note - Dawson played well}

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02 Apr 2013 12:36:21
Dawson played well for his 1st game at that level. He did some good stuff obviously needs to bulk up a little but if he plays as part of a central 3 he should be fine.

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02 Apr 2013 12:41:26
I would be tempted to give the under 18s top scorer a few chances in the first team.

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He played well ed yes but the posters right. there's a time to blood youngsters in a game. yesterday wasnt it. with the manager hanging by a thread. crowd upset. chasing any scrap of a point. not the best day to have a debut is it

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I was at the game yesterday and Dawson was the best player I the first half he was everywhere getting stuck in. His only problem was strength he got pushed about a lot but nothing given. He will be class in a year or two
I'd like to see oneill given the post or poyet but I knowing our luck we will get a no one with no knowhow and no clue.

Chorley white

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He played wekk, as Eddie Gray has often said, when your good enough your time has come -he did much better than the likes of Norris, Tonge or Austin this season

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Being better than Brown or Austin means nothing. We need experienec to mke sure we get two wins to keep us up. Tongue and Norris have to come back for me.

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Being better than Brown or Austin means nothing. We need experienec to mke sure we get two wins to keep us up. Tongue and Norris have to come back for me.

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Dawson never put a foot wrong, so why are you having a go?

Personally I think it was the only thing Warnock actually did right, shame it took so long coming.

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And if Warnock actually gave Poleon a chance he may have endeared himself more.

Why the hell do we have to buy old players that can't last 70 minutes when we have players like Poleon and Dawson and Byram on our books?

Do you think all the scouts came to watch the old gits?

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02 Apr 2013 12:02:04
I have seen a few comments about Redfearn being awful last time he took over. P4 W2 D0 L2
With 6 games to go and another 9 points I would snatch his hand off for that form. Over a season that would be 69 points which is better thabn we will achieve this year.
I'm not suggesting that he is the long term solution but I am not too fearful of him to the end of the season.

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There is a reason he is known as "Relegation Redfearn" and its not because he kept two of the teams he previously managed up

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02 Apr 2013 16:32:54
win percentage of 19% if you look at his whole managerial (caretaker) Career. Leeds 50% - the rest is abysmal.

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02 Apr 2013 11:55:06
Shame about Warnock. Good players continued to get sold from under him, was given practically no money etc etc. He was the best chance we had. GFH untrustworthy, no good manager will touch us with a barge pole. I predict plenty more doom and gloom.

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I agree pal. What worries me is if we don't get a cash injection then to raise money we will have to sell. Let's face it our prize asset is Byram. If a club offers a decent amount the club will have to sell. Breaks my heart, but if the right money is offered, then the club have to take it to buy some decent Championship players. That's assuming the club pump the money back into the transfer kitty. A lot of assumptions I know, but hopefully we won't have to worry about any of this if we get a decent owner with a passion for Leeds.

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I can sympathise to an extent but if the board don't give you any money it doesn't mean you have to buy dross.

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When you have no money all that is left is dross.

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"Let's face it our prize asset is Byram"

He may be the only one in the frame but we have a host of younger players coming through, Dawson showed that yesterday, we have Poleon, the Turners and many more.

Hopefully any new manager will realise what talent we do have coming through and not employ people that can't even last 70 minutes on the pitch.

I still don't understand people slating Austin, he goes after everything and doesn't back away, he's the sort of player we need behind a young team.

On the other hand I don't have any ideas why Brown is even playing football (if that's what you call it?) let alone wearing a Leeds shirt?

This guy is just a total waste of space and I can see why he is STILL praising Warnock, he obviously knows that come the end of the season he's gone.

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02 Apr 2013 11:38:10
If Leeds have anything about them they will try everything possbile to land Martin O'Neill.

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I don't want O'Neil. He's not much younger than Warnock and does he still have a passion for the game? I remember O'Neil when he used to kick every ball and go mental when his team scored. It may be becuase he is 61 that he doesn't do that anymore, but I would like a younger manager. A young manager with a hunger for success and a thick skin, because he'd need one at our beloved club.

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"Good players continued to get sold from under him"

Hang on a minute, we admittedly lost Snodgrass and Warnock actually drove Becchio out of the team, so you are totally wrong there, anyone else that went weren't actually good players?

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02 Apr 2013 10:46:58
Thank god Warnock as gone.
Right time to make byram and Dawson new contract offers to keep them at the club for 4 more years. Make sure byram is on a contract he will feel is worth staying in the championship for.

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Byram has only just extended his contract

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So has dawson

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02 Apr 2013 10:23:40
Regardless of league position I don't blame Warnock for this, he has been given a rough old ride by Leeds fans, been given sod all in terms of funds, built a team that is represented by the league position because the T/O took way too b***** long, YES there are people to blame, for a start the players on the pitch haven't been putting it all in, whether you're premier league or conference you need to be willing, we don't seem to have the players that are willing. The board, good old GFH-C with their infamous buy out from Captain Birdseye, how long does it take seriously, there are too many inconclusive stories about which party was to blame, so both old and new can take joint responsibilty for this. I'm sure Warnock will come out with the truth of it all before long, he is never one to remain quiet. Hopefully when he does all will be revealed and them fans who do nothing but hate on the man will keep their thoughts to themselves. We need to be moving on up in the right direction, we certainly can't do that with so much negativity from the fans. MOT SussexLeeds

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Warnock has publicly criticsed players rather than take resposibility for them, he drove Becchio away and publicly slated Lees last weekend, rather than support him.

That's enough for me.

Becchio and Lees are Leeds through and through, thankfully Lees is still here.

Thanks but no thanks, Neil and please don't say we are in a better place, because we aren't.

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02 Apr 2013 10:09:19
Mark Hughes not the man we need, actually same old school of football as Warnock. I doubt his tactical skills, but not his record - which is poor! I pray for Brighton to drop points in every match, cause Gus is my man. I think he'll come too - if Brighton's not promoted! McDermott also good candidate - Martin O'Neill would have been. ten years ago! But not now, he's past it, just like NW! This appointment will be our most important after the O'Leary era! I pray the club will think long term! Difficult for some fans may be, but a new season with promotion as sole focus, will probably end with new disaster! Let's build from scratch, create a young ball playing team! I'd be happy with position 7-8 next year - IF: we play with style, show passion for the shirt, and achieve this with a core of young players with their best years in front of them!

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There's a very good chance of trying to move forward from div 1

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02 Apr 2013 10:02:28
I live in Australia (unfortunately) but I do watch a bit of the A league which is our equivalent of the premier league, but I would think the standard is about 1st division maybe at a stretch bottom half of championship (Ausman may have a better guess at the level of the A league) anyway, there are a few teams play attractive football for an average standard of players. One manager in particular who I thought was going to venture to England about 15 years ago is Frank Farina from Sydney United who has worked wonders there over the last few months and formally of Brisbane 48 years of age and ex australian national coach sacked for drink driving. I believe worth a look. I think we should look outside England there are plenty of managers out there with far more knowledge than the likes of Martha Hughes

MOT

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02 Apr 2013 08:31:20
Newcastle fan here:

And have fond memories of Leeds in the prem/europe but let's be fair Warnock was never going to get you's there he's past it a bit now IMO.

One name I havnt seen mentioned who done a great job with no budget is Brian McDermott (ex reading) would suit where Leeds are at now, but again if he got you's back up could he keep you's there.

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02 Apr 2013 09:36:27
Hes been mentioned loads on here. he's only had 1 attempt at prem so its experience.

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02 Apr 2013 08:13:58
Hmm i'm a little surprised that Warnock has gone, thought he would see it to the end of the season. GFH won't be signing a successor till the summer so it would have made more sense keeping the same manager and tactics till then, although that wasn't getting us anywhere but down recently so maybe it was a good idea :) However Redfern will have different ideas of how to play and I hope the team can get used to them quickly to stop the slip.

No manager will come in with so few games left unless they are not in a job, they won't be allowed by there current chairmen to leave now, so that rules out the likes of Robinson, Poyet etc so the only one of our calibre out there is O'Neill and I doubt he will come to us especially with rumours of Leicester going to be needing a new manager in the summer, so as I said expect Redfern in charge till summer then a fairly early announcement in the summer break about the new guy.

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I'd look at it the other way if I were a manager.

If I came in now, I would have a few competitive matches to take a proper look at the players, and decide who is worth keeping and who isn't - in readiness for the transfer window in the summer.

Would also get a chance to know the place, and take off some pressure for the start of next season. Would also have plenty of time to converse with transfer targets, and it would prevent any rushed decisions on incoming players

MOT! WMS!

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Warnock wasn't going until we were out of the playoff picture. Any new manager will want to make sure we are out of the relegation picture before coming on board. It's been a mad few weeks, with e few more to come!

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What manager would want to come if we look like going down for goodness sake, Warnock did a runner before he made a real mess of his cv

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02 Apr 2013 07:40:47
Seems their prefered manager may still be employed which suggests. Poyet or martinez. And is bad news because it basically rules out mcd and oneil but thankfully i'm praying means no girlee locked hughes.
Be nice to get manager in for last 3 or 4 games I reckon
And finally as I have been prob warnocks fiercest critics. At last!!!
We need pace, midfielders that can pass and strikers that can score. Sorry morrison habi. Mccorm ok behind front two
Onwards and upwards

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And some money to buy them with

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02 Apr 2013 09:39:36
Paul Lambert is what Leeds are waiting for.

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Because he is doing such a wonderful job at the Villa! Don't think so, he has been found wanting this season. O'Neill would have been the man a few years ago but the game has changed and his game has not.

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Lambert? Can he bring back all the players he stole from us and took to Norwich too?

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02 Apr 2013 07:28:55
Do you know what? I'm glad we lost yesterday, as we all knew it would be the end for Warnock if we did. If we had won, NW would have started his mumblings of a late push for the playoffs again, and he would have been safe for another week. (We'd have been 8th).

This is virtually his own squad, and he couldn't do anything with it! I, for one, wish he'd have gone 3 weeks earlier when Adkins was available, but that's football.

MOT! WMS!

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Im not because now we are ins serious danger of going down. Still need another six points to stop up and where are they coming from?

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02 Apr 2013 05:50:36
I think we need to go further than just getting rid of Warnock and his staff.
I think a lot of the staff below haigh and Patel need to be removed like Bates and Harvey.
I feel Harvey is no good at his job and Bates sends shivers down all football fans spines especially the Leeds fans.

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02 Apr 2013 03:46:37
I see Mark Hughes' name rolling around for manager. His record isn't great, however I think he is the ideal 'Leeds' manager. He's tough and plays physical football. If he gets in a few players like that over the summer we could be a force to be reckoned with! I don't think a single Leeds fan here wouldn't love to have a bit of excitement with him around! I think he'll be perfect to carry our old reputation forward as a fearsome team. let's show the other championship teams what we're made of next year, Hughes or not!
Agree: Hughes in. Disagree: He can f*** off!
Leeds Demon

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Whoever comes in we have got to give them a chance. remember to build a good team you need to bring players through and buy some quality. Neil warnock and Larry grayson were both let down. get rid of bates and Harvey.

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02 Apr 2013 00:45:20
If gfh have any sense then will appoint a young hungry manager, karl robinson, uwe rosler, gus poyet would be ideal for us, all done well at current clubs, and all play football!
Not hoofball, we only need 3/4 players and makings of a championship winning side as great youth coming through at the minute, for now let's get behind neil and the team, and get back to winning ways to attract these managers into coming to us and becoming our next hero and legand just like REVIE!! Mot

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02 Apr 2013 00:26:02
Sen this to GFH this morning.
Dear GFH,
I've been coming to Leeds since 1983, at the time we were in division 2 the equivalent of the championship.
I bought my first season ticket in 1987 and have had one ever since. I'm a realist, football comes with ups and downs, I've seen ups I never thought I would and downs I never thought I would.

The last few years have been the worst time to be a Leeds fan, the majority of players worth watching have bean sold and thousands of fans have been driven away, the whole match day
atmosphere and experience has become so bad that I sometimes have to think twice about making the trip even though I have a season ticket.

None of this was your doing or your fault but you are now the ones who have the more difficult job of trying to get the lost fans back. You've done some good things in the short time since
you took control but I also feel you've missed some opportunities and right now I have no idea what you're doing, planning or why I should renew again.

When you took over I was one of the fans who asked for half season tickets, you introduced them and I bought one for my eldest son but you then did nothing in January to give
fans any believe that the actual team would be any better or that you were trying to push for promotion so the take up was very poor. You've done promotions and been rewarded with
higher attendances, you've reduced season ticket prices which I really appreciate but I've only got a month to decide. So help me and thousands of others make a decision, cheaper prices
are great but ultimately it's what's happening on the pitch that will bring people back, the fans need to believe that there is a chance, a serious chance of competing, that's all but so far you
haven't shown this. If you want to get the renewals and others to take up the offer by the end of April you need to make people think you are serious and give a show of intent by having a
new manager in before the deadline. The current situation does not show me that next year will be any different to the last few, just a bit cheaper, paying less for the same poor experience
is no incentive to renew.

So GFH over to you, WHY should I and others continue to be Leeds, why should I renew the 2 season tickets by the date you've set.

Regards

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Exactly how I feel. I haven't renewed yet and i've been going since February 1970. I've had enough and I need to see our better players being retained, especially the younger players like Howson. Excellent post.

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02 Apr 2013 00:23:24
Apparently Mark Hughes is in the frame. gawd I hope not

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02 Apr 2013 00:07:29
''if they want someone to take over. they know what my feelings are'' Warnocks words. good hings he's gone doesn't sound like he cared about the job tbh

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02 Apr 2013 00:06:13
why do we have to give redfern the reigns for the rest of the season we know what he does with the first team nothing good. Naylor young coach and if he came in and did well he would be a contender for the main job. The guy has the distinction of never failing in any coaching role in his brief career in that mould, clearly loves leeds and wouldn't be afraid to blood the youngsters once safety is assured. There is no one better to give the likes of mowatt, killock, walters, dawson, parkin a run in the 1st team and if we can find another byram or two from that group we could get rid of dross like norris and brown

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I think the logic is that by appointing Redfearn, they're making it clear it's a temporary appointment and they they really are looking outside the club for a good, experienced manager. Let's hope so, I think it would be a mistake to appoint either Redders or Naylor with a view to 'seeing how it goes'.

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02 Apr 2013 00:01:36
Welcome aboard Mr O'Neil
We nearly had him once according to Risdale's book?

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01 Apr 2013 23:44:48
NW had good intentions but was lied to. To be apart from your family shows how much he thought he could do.
I wish him well. Much as I love LUFC I love my family more.
I am hurting for LUFC, but all the best Neil and your family
ACFC

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01 Apr 2013 23:43:12
Di Matteo next man for me, young, enthusiastic and has the experience. He will also have good contacts! Whether or not he will want to make the drop down to the championship again is another matter.

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Champions League to Elland Road? Get real.

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01 Apr 2013 23:42:30
My god where in a shocking state now just 5 points off the drop zone. I for 1 am now very very scared. I just pray that this shambels of a team can scrape another 2 wins or else are beloved club is proper fxxxxd. Well done wornock uve been a fxxxxxg disaster from the start. Just hope u Take the the likes of pierce varney brown austin norris green peltier with you. Mot hopefully in the championship next season.

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You forgot morison in that list a poor billy barn door and the worst player for our club since carlton palmer albiet varney runs him close.

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01 Apr 2013 23:32:19
Im happy warnock is gone, but I would have rathered see i'm leave at the end of the season like was planned, not been a good manager for us but I still think he could have saved us from being relagted. As for his replacement, RdM - no chance. MoN - no chance, brain mcdermot looks most likely for me. even though I love love Lucas Radebe as manager

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Lucas radabe should be invited into a role for the club but the closet we will get to that is a matt lucas lookalike

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01 Apr 2013 23:26:56
It seems like I'm the only one that's a bit sad that warnocks gone, I mean he has had next to no financial backing and has bags of experience that has not been put to good use in any signings, whoever the new man is let's hope he gets cash
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He spent 2 million on this shambles of a team. 500k for kenny when we already had a better keeper in Lonergan being a prime example of his narrow minded stupidity. He bought ageing cloggers when he could have built a team around good young players like Clayton, who took the p1ss out of us a couple of weeks back.

2m was more than Larry had in 3 years, and he still took us backwards. There is no reason to feel sorry for him. He was arrogant and took us backwards.

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01 Apr 2013 23:24:58
Think NW did fairly reasonable job but there was never any commitment or stability at the club to allow a proper job to be done. All he has achievd is a patch up job with no real finance to build a proper team. (Thanks GFH) I personally thank him for his efforts and await his successor and hope that the owners stump up some proper cash in the months ahead.

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