Leeds Banter Archive January 02 2021

02 Jan 2021 19:49:10
Pablo and his determination, bravery, quality and control needs to start against these top teams.

As for me the starting 11 didn't have anywhere enough belief that they they would get anything from this game against Spurs.

For me Pablo has by far the BEST WINNERS MENTALITY in the team ; only Ayling comes close to him.

02 Jan 2021 20:37:12
Baz He can't do it for 90 minutes. Much more effective coming on after an hour. As for mentality, that's not the problem. We just won the Championship and beat the Baggies by 5. It's more to do with level of opposition. Spurs no mugs. We're a mid-table team. Against bottom half teams, we're a frightening prospect. Against top half opposition, more often than not meat and drink due to our style of play. If we acquire better players in certain positions and adapt our style against the better teams we could easily be top 6 material.

02 Jan 2021 21:35:35
Agreed George, although if we started with Pablo and replaced him with Rodrigo after 45-60 mins I wonder of Rodders would look like a world beater?

02 Jan 2021 22:08:51
Against the better teams, Pablo coming on after 60 minutes at 3 nil down the game is already gone.

Why not indeed as Canada suggests let Pablo start the match and play for 60 minutes to affect the game from the start when we are level and in the game.

As for a winning mentality Pablo has it in abundance more than any other Leeds player in my opinion and his presence in the side is a lift to most of the players.

It's a kop out just to say these teams have better players. Spurs weren't great we made them look better than they were with our mistakes and timid mentality.

02 Jan 2021 23:16:20
Ayling is a battler and a tryer.

I agree team looked best before kick off. maybe like us they knew it was coming and how it was going to unfold. One pundit said won’t be long before Leeds lose faith I hope that don’t come true.

02 Jan 2021 23:46:01
Come on! We can only dream of some of those players in the Spurs squad who have been there and done it in this league. We are still on a learning curve with a handful of quality players.

02 Jan 2021 23:47:05
Why would we be losing faith? We are a newly promoted team 12 points above our closest recent promotion rivals playing some of the best football in the league. Anyone saying we are naive and need to play defensive, need to look at the position of Fulham and West Brom, Burnley and Brighton. Boring football and near the bottom, I couldn’t think of anything worse.

03 Jan 2021 00:33:01
Really like Pablo and thought he gad a great year last year. But realistically he isn't a central midfielder with the legs for a top half premier league team. Against the de bruynes, pogbas, mc tominays he simply won't be at the races. His strength is a killer pass to unlock a defence, his weakness is giving cheap ball away which is somthing that is costing us dear against the better teams.

03 Jan 2021 04:35:54
Bmc4b not a central midfielder
( Klich's number 8 role) rather a CAM. Give him 60 minutes and see how he does, I am sure Leeds would succeed better.

03 Jan 2021 12:31:25
Love away days I think they meant against the better teams but can’t be sure what they meant

For me the team looked a bit defeated before kick off and looked to be going through the motions rather than actually with beliefs they could win yesterday.

02 Jan 2021 17:53:49
Looking at the Villa banter, there are Bielsa jibes that would be mildly amusing to a 12 year old. I mistakenly thought it was adults that posted on these sites.

02 Jan 2021 18:15:01
Sorry mate serves you right for stouping so low. go to idiot sites. read idiotic views!

If there page was so god how comes a lot of them prefer it here with us?

Mot.

02 Jan 2021 18:25:55
Vile by name vile by nature.

02 Jan 2021 20:18:26
I would of thought ye had more to worry about after another lesson from a top team.

02 Jan 2021 21:36:37
Yes we got a lesson, but we gave you one so you can't be a top team haha.

02 Jan 2021 22:21:56
Waccy Baccy we thrashed your Vile 3 nil. End of .

03 Jan 2021 01:57:11
Yep u beat us fair and square Canada white ye are a good team we’re just better and more consistent that’s why we only got 1 lesson this year and I’ll take that over getting 1 every other week. Long way to go but I’m confident that we will finish well above Leeds this year and if we get a player or 2 in January we will grab a European spot. if ye finish higher than us I’ll pay 1 last visit and eat some humble pie and I won’t ever post on here again, until then your stuck with me lol👊.

03 Jan 2021 11:29:21
Post or don't post Whack, not really bothered either way.

02 Jan 2021 17:02:49
Our new achilles heel seems to be sloppy passing. Eradicate that and we will compete with the top teams. I must agree with Hess, the difference today was Son/ Kane to our Bamford. I wonder how long the see everything Marcelo can accept so many missed chances. He himself has pointed out our lack of clinicallity in front of goal. Nothing has changed, even his blind loyalty, in spite of the obvious.

02 Jan 2021 18:18:00
Feel sorry for Bamford he has done well yet still gets stick, problem is our passing and creating which ain’t Bamford a job. He has been our best player and match winner what more can he do. Even today he fed on scraps while our defence gives other strikers a feast

Passing is a problem as is fitness I think few are tired and that shows

When off pace or playing better teams why don’t we adapt rather than plan a which clearly ain’t working? Some common sense and attention to basics would see us right up the table.

02 Jan 2021 18:39:19
Said it before and will say it again Pablo even at 35 remains one of our best players.

When Pablo is playing for Leeds the control and passing as a team is soo much better.

I like Rodrigo but feel he needs to do more.

02 Jan 2021 22:18:45
Berm, bamford not good enough, has done well with 10 goals but misses lots of other chances.
I think a ok squad and works hard but if want to be a top team, need a goal scorer.

02 Jan 2021 23:18:48
I agree to an extent Melbourne but remember for a top goal scorer to come belisa has to go. he simply don’t like out and out goal scorers which is why he didn’t play nekita despit him being the best goal scorer in the best tre of the league

This is why Rodrigo was brought in for competition for Bamford a number nine simply ain’t the Gaffers style.

02 Jan 2021 23:49:14
Top players cost top dollars. Radz would rather invest in youth and hope that some of them eventually make it rather than buy the best as they are too expensive. For now this is the best we can do and Bamford has defied all expectations this season so far so give him a break.

03 Jan 2021 12:32:46
Well
Said alf.

02 Jan 2021 15:27:48
Easiest result to predict. Give the ball away to spurs is not like doing it to WBA. They have Kane and Son. We have Bamford. There's a huge gulf in class but if we had capitalised on our good play early on we could have made more of a game of it. Not disheartened at all. We will improve.

02 Jan 2021 16:02:51
Agree hess!

02 Jan 2021 16:04:58
Absolutely with you there on that Hess

I remember watching Norwich on match of the day last season, they looked timid against every side they came up against. We look like we are going to stand toe to toe with everyone

I can't help but think that Bielsa is watching each any every player this season and seeing if he is up to the rigours of the PL. Allowing him to pinpoint what recruitment he needs for next season.
Personally I can't see a problem with the goalkeepers (other than the non-football issue with Casilla)
Right back seems to be cover by 3. Centre back has 3 internationals and the 2 lads who are doing well now. Like a lot on here I would like to see a proper left back. Nothing against Alioski and Dallas but they would improve or bench more than they improve that position.

02 Jan 2021 14:19:34
Clever one KP, get a booking and miss the cup game. Nice.

02 Jan 2021 14:32:38
No got it wrong, he can play cup game but will miss the league game against Brighton.

02 Jan 2021 15:31:55
How?
Cavani misses Villa league game, EFL cup game and FA cup match so why is this different?

02 Jan 2021 16:29:18
Think the rule had been changed back in 2018, but may be wrong?

02 Jan 2021 16:58:09
Probably rule changed 1 sec before KP got booked haha.

02 Jan 2021 14:05:44
Commentator described Leeds style of play as a thrilling naivety, best description I've heard to be honest. Before today was easy to predict how this game was likely to go.

We won't be likely to change either as this is how we are. Factor in how bielsa likes to stick with the same players, same tactics, small squad and the fact that we can't get financially compete with the established premiership teams.

All that hopefully will come but will take time. Today no real shock and realistically expected. Onwards to better days.

02 Jan 2021 15:11:54
Mezzer to change the style is a change of management!

02 Jan 2021 15:59:05
Very good post and spot on great football but not the best results Mourino is bad football but as good as results as you could hope to get from squad.

02 Jan 2021 16:09:42
Whiteman it's not about changing our style, look at man city they play pretty much the same way. It's about personnel, we have who we have, there is no doubt bielsa has turned average players into better players.

Man city have had the luxury of buying the best in all areas and more in reserve, we have to do it a different way, year on year to improve. That's just they say it is.

{Ed047's Note - if you had the same quality as City you’d be phenomenal

02 Jan 2021 17:02:22
Not sure Ed City have the same personal as city and they are exactly like us. good to watch but soft to score against and often create without scoring

If we could keep our players and style yet do the basics we would be amazing.

{Ed047's Note - you’ve confused me a little there mate, but what I’m saying is if you had the same quality of player as City then they would as you say, do the basics some much better, thus with Bielsa at the helm you really would be awesome.

02 Jan 2021 18:22:23
My post was tonge in cheek as city for me ate very poor for the players they have

I think even if belisa has best players on the planet his team would still have fundermental flaws and get beat by the likes of spurs wolves or any team that sits back and or attacks with pace.

02 Jan 2021 13:47:58
Think Meslier is going to be a great keeper, however the thing that made us all go "wow" against Arsenal this time last year was his distribution, which now seems to be his Achilles heel. Maybe time for a short period out of the side?

02 Jan 2021 14:01:41
Agree his distribution in his debut against Arsenal was exceptional.

But please unless we sign a new gk don't want to see Kiko instead.

02 Jan 2021 16:00:47
Worst post ever keeper has been amazing yes his distribution is poor but we need to play around that not replace him for someone who can pass yet can’t save a shot

It is the joe heart v clowino bravo argument.

02 Jan 2021 13:22:28
Ugh
Leeds need to cut out the sloppiness and silly mistakes in their matchplay.
Hopefully a much more ' efficient ' second half for Leeds.

02 Jan 2021 13:30:12
Sloppy here and there, but played ok. And the Penalty was very iffy, just outside the box for me. Need the next goal now.

02 Jan 2021 13:48:31
LUFCfeath yes playing well in parts but our mistakes and sloppiness lead to goals concession.

02 Jan 2021 13:01:31
Stupid pass from our keeper again straight to the spurs player and then put alioski under pressure and silly penalty!

02 Jan 2021 13:04:37
He does one of those silly passes every game.

02 Jan 2021 13:15:16
Game over. Shame as we create our own problems every time.

02 Jan 2021 13:15:37
But to be fair gianni + pascal. Are not helping neither, very sloppy with ball.

02 Jan 2021 13:16:59
Yes. Meslier has been doing well but he regularly gives the odd stupid pass and put us under pressure. He did big style against WBA and got away with it. Not quite so lucky this time.

02 Jan 2021 13:21:29
Lots of poor passing, anything over 10 yrd is missing today.
We need a new left back, well actually a left back as we don't have one.
Alioski has one great game in 10, 4 or 5 Ok games and 4-5 poor ones.

02 Jan 2021 13:22:36
Arguably we had been the better team most of that half but stupid mistakes continue to cost us. Why is it we need 20 chances to score, klich offering nothing, time for Hernandez. Sadly game is gone, we will get picked off even more second half.

02 Jan 2021 13:32:24
Your all correct, but I would still rather have this young lad learning from his mistakes than Casilla continuing his pension plan

Meslier is going to be a very good keeper, would rather that be with us than for someone else and I am willing to overlook the odd mistake.

Same with Struick, Phillips, Harrison and Raphnina.
Give them a break guys, they are improving. They are not world class and neither are the team. They are playing against players who were in the Champions League final not long ago, so much better than playing against Rotherham.

02 Jan 2021 10:02:35
Well January is here and another tough game looming against spuds. You can bet this is one game jose' isn't going to want to lose, especially as he is the special one and a new sheriff called Bielsa is in town. This season has proved with the results so far that most teams can beat each other (bottom few teams excluded) . Honestly think this is a game we will struggle to get anything from so a point of more would be a bonus. Just hope it's not a result like against Man u, but they will throw the kitchen sink at us today.

02 Jan 2021 10:53:58
I agree Mezzer this will be a toughie. would be happy with a draw.

02 Jan 2021 11:01:50
Yeah. It’s going to be a tough one. They will have a right go at us.
Not expecting a point tonight.
But as you say. Seems any team can beat any team. Let’s hope Spurs continue their recent form. Then might be our day.

02 Jan 2021 11:54:55
A draw would be a very good result for Leeds.

02 Jan 2021 12:12:40
LEEDS WILL BEAT SPURS TODAY!

02 Jan 2021 12:24:04
Agree we might get a lesson today but we will still have a good go at them. Their strike force against our makeshift defence does worry me. MOT.

02 Jan 2021 12:26:14
Helmets on guys and strap youselves in, because it's going to be a bumpy ride!

02 Jan 2021 02:30:43
Although he is Man U, Ole seems to be a fairly decent chap.

Just a few months ago, ' Ole at the Wheel' was ( seemingly now unfairly) being derided and ridiculed by much of the media, the Man U fans, other clubs fans, that YouTube impressionist Darren and also certain posters on this Banter site.

Ole is now achieving what he should be achieving with Man U, now second in the league, but one has to give Ole a fair bit of credit for riding out the storm of ridicule and adverse results of a few months ago.

02 Jan 2021 07:43:30
I’m still not convinced by Solskjær I think when you’ve got a massive unpredictable egomaniac like Pogba in your team things will at some point go wrong again. They may finish in the top six but they definitely won’t win the Premiership or any trophies with Solskjær as manager.

02 Jan 2021 11:57:12
Yes OP agree.