Leeds Banter Archive June 02 2018

 

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02 Jun 2018 22:27:49
I'll be glad when half-term's finished :)

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02 Jun 2018 21:13:43
Ok lads, am I the only one who thinks that Aston Villa’s valuation for Jack Grealish is absurdly over the top? The club have valued him at £40 million! they have gone mad, if he is worth that sort of money then we have seriously been short changed ourselves by selling Taylor, Cook and Wood for peanuts! The football world has gone mad, IMO he’s not worth £12M. What do you all reckon to that mind blowing news? 👎👎

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02 Jun 2018 21:37:24
It's known as the try and quick fix the FFP rule problem valuation.

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02 Jun 2018 23:43:25
Couldn't believe it when I saw that figure mike! I'm sure the media contributes to the inflated prices these days!

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03 Jun 2018 22:15:33
Trumps fake news Brightwhite, don’t you just love the media, I mean who would believe that never mind pay it! And people think us Leeds fans are deluded eh mate! I’m thinking though that at £60M it’s a good job we haven’t priced Cooper out of a move by being greedy! 😂😂

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02 Jun 2018 19:54:40
Looks like England are going to win the world cup lads. Could be an excellent 12 months coming up because Leeds are going to run away with the championship next season too. Think positive. MOT.

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02 Jun 2018 20:31:05
How much do you have on the double Lucas? That would be a nice accie!

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02 Jun 2018 22:10:06
Just my kids savings

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02 Jun 2018 23:44:28
Safe bet then! I'm in!

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03 Jun 2018 02:02:02
England are a shoe-in for the world cup, or WC as it's also known as, all our hopes will go down the toilet as usual :)

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03 Jun 2018 22:17:28
Bloody hell mate, I hope the party is not at yours Al 😂😂ITS COMING HOME, ITS COMING HOME, you heard it here first!

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02 Jun 2018 18:00:09
Looks like Rockbottom hasn’t let the grass grow under his feet eh, rumour is he’s going to take the managers job at Bradford City!

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02 Jun 2018 18:31:40
Saw he was in the running yesterday Mike. Don't we all wish we were like Football Managers, do a sh*t job and get a massive pay off then walk straight in to another job or become a Pundit if there is time inbetween jobs.

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02 Jun 2018 19:39:27
Good luck to him, though. He certainly wasn't the right man for the job here but I wish him all the best for the future

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02 Jun 2018 19:56:40
Totally agree kiwi. there's never been a Leeds manager that has left, that I wouldn't want to do well after leaving us. Unless they crossed the Pennines of course!

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02 Jun 2018 21:19:35
Well said Brightwhite, I totally agree, sometimes people forget that in real life it’s just a game, it’s not life or death and they have families to so yes good luck to him. I got very angry at Liverpool’s goalkeeper who has received death threats, I mean FFS! Get a grip of reality, I mean can you imagine how many letters and threats Gary Sprake would of got! 😂😂bless him!

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02 Jun 2018 21:29:24
Brighty, how about Dennis Wise?

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02 Jun 2018 23:52:51
Boggly eyes? You have a point lig. A very good point. Tho I think he was the face, while gus was the brain. But I bow to your observation. What a weasel!

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03 Jun 2018 08:40:56
. and Rockbottom is £500k better of and it could have been £1m. Does Radz have money to burn? Serves someone right! Bradford I read? ! As I said before with TC, having been at Leeds to add to the CV is a win-win! Good riddance to bad rubbish!

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03 Jun 2018 11:31:07
I know Gary Sprake made a couple of high profile howlers, but Rod Belfitt one of our players in that great squad told me that Sprake gave some amazing performances on many away games in Europe before they were all shown on TV.

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02 Jun 2018 17:41:59
Your dead right Brightwhite and sack Rockbottom and get Tidsdale is a step up, I didn’t think that, but you are spot on and yes you especially and Mezzer, Brightwhite and Alf have all said we should be careful with our optimism! Another thing, is it me or does anyone else think that the highlights of our last few seasons hasn’t been the football, it’s been the speculation and excitement of getting a new manager, imagine if we didn’t have that to fall back on! 😂😂

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02 Jun 2018 18:35:06
That's the bonus for us Mike, getting crap ones to keep us interested, and speculating who the next naff one will be!

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02 Jun 2018 20:34:01
Unfortunately the biggest excitement has been about who Samu would gob on, and how much a pie and a pint costs.

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02 Jun 2018 21:21:47
Bang on there mate, thank god we’ve had something to keep us minds busy eh! 😂😂

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02 Jun 2018 21:37:55
The Pie Tax really got us going!

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02 Jun 2018 17:26:53
I'm happy to give Cloudy and Rainy a chance at Leeds. Personally I think he has the necessary experience of English footie. Obviously there are those that will disagree, and I'm waiting to be shot down by them. Happy Saturday everyone

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02 Jun 2018 20:12:25
😂 don't think anyone can shoot you down for that one softie. The man is a class act, and a great coach!

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02 Jun 2018 16:45:07
Subject of manager/coach to one side for the mo' . has anyone not seen Viera's goal against Qatar? It's a worldy !

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02 Jun 2018 20:13:36
Been saying for he's that he should shoot more often, given the positions he gets himself into. Like you say tho, a belter of a goal!

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02 Jun 2018 20:18:07
Great but where was it last season?

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02 Jun 2018 21:35:59
Looks like Aidy has pushed him further forward than Leeds managers have done so far

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03 Jun 2018 00:19:36
And that's the position he should be playing not DM

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03 Jun 2018 10:57:10
Bige heard any news on season ticket renewals so far?

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02 Jun 2018 15:25:51
Reading reports that Orta as control over who's next coach that's why he's pushing for Marcelo Bielsa to keep his overall control it's obvious the bloke as got too much power at LS11 he's only going for a coach to be a yes man to him and his signings, we have an owner who's obviously handed control to Orta to basically do what he wants or me he's just another cancer at this club.

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02 Jun 2018 16:21:14
Agree kly Orta picks the players now picks the coach so you can now narrow the search down to who will want to work under Orta much rather have a new manager who brings his own players in instead of trying to coach Ortas naff signings what's it going to take for Radz to realise Ortas no good for Leeds grow a pair and get shut wouldn't be suprised who we get now surely its better for a manager experienced in English football whos actually achieved something Ortas Leeds isn't working don't believe it can under the current regime hope i'm wrong but little faith in Radz nor Orta

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02 Jun 2018 17:18:10
Yep the current regime is a recipe for one disaster after another this Football club is rotten to the core with a dictator called Orta.

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02 Jun 2018 17:43:11
Agree with all these posts, we haven't had good leadership from the top for too long now. We are desperate for stability and a sign of success, but what hope is there when bad decisions and appointments keep being made. This next one could be make or break for the current owner and his regime.

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02 Jun 2018 19:43:47
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Grima Wormtongue and Orta have a lot in common.

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02 Jun 2018 20:16:33
Bielsa will be far from a yes man. So far away from that, that he would walk in two hours with interference. If he does sign up, then I would suggest that the tide has turned against Orta, but that only IF he's appointed.

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02 Jun 2018 22:33:19
Hecky was Orta’s choice as well

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02 Jun 2018 15:10:00
Sorry to bring the optimism crashing down by we all have to be very careful and not get carried away. As we now know things never go to plan, we got Onlyforaday, god that really was a bad shock, then Darko when we were teased about a big name coming in. Others include Evens, we really didn’t see that one coming eh and then we had our first good prospect in Monk and we thought all was well until he left! he went and we all thought big names, then to our shock an unknown TC came to Elland Road! Not what we were expecting, anyway, a few months on and TC goes and it’s a statement from Radz that gets the mind racing, he’s sorry, his next appointment will be the one, wow the names were big and proven. the Rockbottom arrived and everyone’s heads dropped! So without wanting to sound negative, please be conservative with your ideals as we might be left thinking a monumental name is in his way and we end up with Paul Tidsdale or a Redfearn mark 2! I wouldn’t care but how hard can t be Radz, one good appointment and you will be a hero! 👍

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02 Jun 2018 15:53:15
Mikewoody good advice mate, I don’t like the sound. Of Bielsa mate he’s been in and out of most places, he lasted two days at Lazio. And resigned after one game at Marseille this man is Loco-and not wanted at Leeds, we have enough of them already at Leeds,

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02 Jun 2018 16:14:26
Kind of along the lines of a couple of things I've said before Mike. We need to be careful what we wish for. Sack Hecky, get Tidsdale? Worst nightmare!

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02 Jun 2018 16:50:09
I've had a radical idea . let's not bother with a manager/head coach at all . from what I keep reading on here nobody's going to be either good enough or not a big enough name, or too old. WTF people, we're a mid-table championship club . ZZ is not coming :)

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02 Jun 2018 16:59:31
Whiteman. Who says Bielsa is not wanted at Leeds? I'd guess 90 % of fans would be delighted to have him. Of course it's a risk. Same as anyone else

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02 Jun 2018 17:23:25
I'm happy to give Bielsa a chance.

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02 Jun 2018 20:19:05
Bielsa would be the best coach we've had since George Graham. What's not to like about him? I just don't get it?

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02 Jun 2018 20:42:57
SpeedygRIP where in my post did I say that others did not want Bielsa at Leeds, or the quote 90%, nowhere mate Read it it’s my own opinion no one else, he may be ok who knows not me, just saying what I think.

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02 Jun 2018 13:28:39
There's an Asylum at Helland Road in Leeds run by lunatics I thought these sort of places didn't exist anymore and all were shut down obviously not could only happen in Leeds.

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02 Jun 2018 14:28:35
Gelderd You right but old news. You're not seriously telling us you only just noticed?

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02 Jun 2018 20:20:36
The house of bright still lives strong with lunatics. I'm the beacon!

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02 Jun 2018 13:13:57
Where on earth is Martyn? Are you still celebrating yesterday's news pal? 😜🍻🍻🍻

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02 Jun 2018 14:20:39
Sent him abroad to negotiate with new boss.

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02 Jun 2018 14:30:56
He went to pick up Heck from Yeadon 🤣✈

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02 Jun 2018 15:25:01
Maybe he has flown out to personally sack Orta!

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02 Jun 2018 16:16:48
Lol! 3 top posts there fellas!

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02 Jun 2018 18:26:25
George . Yeadon? you're showing your age with that one chap :) (for t' young 'uns, that'll be Leeds/Bradford airport)

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02 Jun 2018 20:21:20
It's still Yeadon tho innit?

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02 Jun 2018 21:39:27
Dunno, I've lived in the heathen Midlands for more than 40 years :)

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02 Jun 2018 12:32:53
With all this talk of who would be our next manager, there is one person I could honestly see doing the job in a year or two. If its Ranieri or Bielsa now (both 60+) we can't expect either to be long term. My vote in the near future would go to Andy Hughes. Loved the guy and he's had a lot of success as a coach with Charlton and Huddersfield. Hire him as our head coach in the next 2-5 years and get Bromby and Naylor back to manager academy (they were doing a great job)

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02 Jun 2018 14:54:51
Don't you think the current academy staff are doing a decent enough job? As for Hughesy, I'd employ him in some capacity or other right now.

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02 Jun 2018 16:17:53
Loved him, and he still loves Leeds. "One for the future "!

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02 Jun 2018 18:27:43
Defo, did you ever see the letter he wrote when he left ? Andy Hughes, he's one of our own :)

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02 Jun 2018 12:18:33
Ihave read many Orta must go, posts but to my mind the problem is more the set up. As a stand alone talent scout/recruiter, to whom the manager is a separate entity, the Continental system just does not work and even more, attracts a "yes man" manager who will work with the system just to get the gig. Any manager worth his salt will, quite rightly, want final say in all first team decisions. Any big name will walk away without those guarantees and therefore we are destined to shop in the bargain basement where success is a much bigger gamble. This is why I am excited for Bielsa but not expectant as I think the changes he will demand may well be a change to far.

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02 Jun 2018 13:07:11
One thing is for sure Leodis, if he does land the job, he will not be a yes man!

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02 Jun 2018 13:59:52
Agree leodis, don't know much about this guy to be honest. Have heard him described as a bit of a mad man at times though so guessing he would be vocal if he didn't agree with things not a yes man type? . Only thing that does concern me is his record at Lille in France was similar to Hecks record at Leeds 1 in 4 win ratio

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02 Jun 2018 18:29:52
His record at Lille would be more similar to Heck's at Barnsley because they sold, or wouldn't renew HIS players

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02 Jun 2018 11:47:44
Got a gut feeling that Bielsa appointment will not come to fruition. In that case could end up with Bruce, Mick or Ranieri. going to be an improvement whoever we get. And they need to be given a full season with transfer backing

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02 Jun 2018 12:05:25
Speedy we will go down the foreign Head coach route as reported we want a head coach not manager, so rule out Bruce or Allerdice type of british manager.

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02 Jun 2018 12:10:55
Orta will continue to call the shots regarding transfers. This will not change in the short term

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02 Jun 2018 12:13:11
I’m with you on that Speedy, apparently he’s quite high maintenance and likes control so I can’t see that one working, hope I’m wrong but unless there is another hidden gem out there it will be one of the usual suspects! There is another way to look at Sam Allardyce and that is Everton fans and the club have really peed him off, like West Ham and England, after those he maybe wanting to prove a lot of people wrong, and what better way is there to get noticed than with a club like the once mighty Leeds United. Taking us up would be his biggest challenge and biggest achievement, I just think there is some mileage in him yet. There are better managers IMO but not many with the fire still burning in their belly and not many with a point to prove! 👌

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02 Jun 2018 13:10:13
Interesting perspective Woody, and Big Sam is one that I would certainly not turn my nose up at. A lot don't like him for whatever reasons, but I met him a couple of times at the Grand National, and he's a top bloke in my opinion. Still hoping that the Bielsa deal comes off tho!

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02 Jun 2018 14:56:14
Your right mate he is a nice guy, he is often seen in Nutters restaurant in Rochdale and he is polite and does selfies with people who come to his table, he always has time and even by his own admission he says he likes being in touch with the paying supporters as without them he wouldn’t have a job, his words!

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02 Jun 2018 18:31:19
Fat Sam must have an inferno burning in that belly ;)

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02 Jun 2018 09:35:34
I read everyone accepting that the deed is done. It is time now to draw a line in the sand and go for the "right" man. We will negotiate and shake hands with him but then he is introduced to Orta "oh and this is the man who will decide your destiny. This is the man who will feed you the players on whom you are judged. This is the man who will decide if you stay or go. Now do you still want the job? " Sadly I think many a "right" man may well be out the door in a flash.

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02 Jun 2018 10:18:11
Sorry leodis but it's a bit hard to think that Orta has soul control on all purchases. I'm sure Radz kinnear and now the 49ers man have their say. It's a bit of a cop out to lay all the blame at the feet of Orta

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02 Jun 2018 11:04:12
Be interesting Wex to read about his true involvement once Heckingbottom has his payoff money in the bank.

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02 Jun 2018 12:26:13
Have no interest in anything Heck has to say

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02 Jun 2018 12:34:15
I hear what your saying Wex but my main worry is that Orta has too much sway over the majority shareholder.

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02 Jun 2018 09:29:07
For me the appointment of our new manager is crucial as there is every chance of success this coming season if AR gets it right. Biesla is taking a chance in my opinion, language barriers, his age and if he is as good as "Pep and Poch" are saying why isn't he in work ? What we need is proven quality at this level and with that some funding and hard work . Hate to say it but that points to Mick McCarthy. I do not like his style of football but his teams work hard and are difficult to beat. Looking at the division like many on here have pointed out ffp will hit the likes of Villa and Wendies, Derby are gambling on the Lampard effect, WBA have an untried manager and the there are a few teams for whom Championship survival will be the aim. Stoke and Middlesbrough will be the two to beat, good managers who will have had all summer with their squads, decent players and boards that back the manager. Like everyone on here I hope AR gets this appointment right as his track record of TC, Heck along with Orta does not fill me with confidence.

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02 Jun 2018 10:40:03
If Orta is the director of football? (Not sure of his title) . But next move for Radz (now that he is being decisive) , is to say bye to the man and hopefully that job role BEFORE he appoints the next Manager, yes MANAGER.

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02 Jun 2018 11:23:43
Spot on Mezzer, to attract the quality Manager we all hope for Orta has to go as well. Come on Radz do it and then you can appoint a Manager to do what you pay him for, Manage!

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02 Jun 2018 11:54:20
Would rather have Ranieri than Bielsa he knows the English league been there and done it knows how to forge a team and appears a lot less volatile than Bielsa but whoever comes in must have final say on who he brings in if not can't see either of them coming

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02 Jun 2018 08:45:31
Once again the powers that be at ER are making things interesting for us. Was my 40th Birthday yesterday so wonder if that was Radz gift to me? Most important appointment of Radz tenure now guys and gals.

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02 Jun 2018 09:20:37
Happy birthday Alf, yesterday was your little gift. Your real gift is coming in the next few days. Hopefully your proper gift is the gift that just keeps giving.

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02 Jun 2018 11:30:40
Totally agree Alf. They have to get it right this time, and stick by the new man! And happy birthday for yesterday young man!

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02 Jun 2018 13:09:11
It's not just "them" that has to stick by the new man, it's also US ! ! ! I've seen a few comments already about Bielsa that make me wonder if these people even give a toss about our club.

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Review Of The Day 2nd June 2018

02 Jun 2018 06:53:52
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 2nd June 2018

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02 Jun 2018 06:49:31
Is radz going to be able to break his current pattern of lousy decision? Is he able to get a manager that can at least give it a go and last one whole season? I'm not sure. That's what we need now. Stability and a sensible capable manager.

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02 Jun 2018 09:37:24
Ausman doesn’t look like it if the story’s are true same old thing,

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02 Jun 2018 12:02:56
Unlike the beginning of last season Whiteman pal, I will be reading your posts and agreeing! You got last season and Radz, Orta and the players spot on, you and a couple of other posters were thought of as non Leeds supporters, but you my friend are and even when it was rosy in the garden you saw something others didn’t so I’m with you this season and Brightwhite, Radz has one chance left to get this right to save his position, Orta has had to many cock ups, let’s stop the stupid long contracts, let’s wait to see the potential if they are unknown and let’s mix the unknown with proven talent. Get your head in gear Radz it’s game on, you have a lot to prove to a lot of paying supporters! 👍👍

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02 Jun 2018 12:46:29
For me the jury is out on Orta, the man. What I think needs to go is his position. If that also means him, then so be it. We do not know if Radz tasked him with building for the future and if so then we do not know how good or bad, at his job, he is what we do know is that the signs are encouraging. The young guns we have seen seem more than capable and everyone is making the right noises for the young lads waiting in the wings. No, the change must be that any Head of recruitment must work for the manager. At the pointy end the manager will name a named player and the recruiter must then get it done. Further down the scale the head of recruitment must direct the scouts around the lower leagues and abroad.

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02 Jun 2018 02:32:24
Brightwhite, come on mate, is 30,000 plus not supporting a new gaffer? Whoever we have had as manager you should know out of anyone that we always find a way to be supportive and optimistic, it’s like LUFCfev says, we will if he’s any good! I really know where you are coming from and I really like your posts mate, so I’m not mugging you off, but out of all the fans who support many teams we have the most passionate and supported so I’m with LUFCfev, although to be fair I would like him to be given a chance, not six games! IMO Ithink this is it, I think our next will be our last for a long time, onwards and upwards, great start to June, now let’s get the players in. MOT

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02 Jun 2018 07:34:31
Mikewoody another great post mate it’s about time after 14 managers we are due a good one . The only person to blame is the man at the top,

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02 Jun 2018 11:38:54
You're right Woody! One of my crap, p1ssed posts! Oops!

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02 Jun 2018 11:48:47
Brightwhite mate, you don’t do crap posts, peed or not they are not any worse than some of mine and you are right we do need to give our support and we did with TC but Rockbottom was never a good fit mate, not much better than Darko and Giveitaday IMO!

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