Leeds Banter Archive September 02 2014

02 Sep 2014 22:10:20
Forget new coaches and players leaving, let's address a real issue, who the F. introduced that crap clap instead of the original NA NA NA.
in our match day rendition of Marching on Together? I for one as an older fan cannot get away with it this and my 19 year old lad feels the same maybe its because I have been singing it to him in the car most of his life but does anyone else agree.
(Ed let's have a Poll).

{Ed013's Note - What would you like the Poll to be Billy? something like this;

Should the clapping be abolished in the Leeds United Anthem Marching On Together and replaced with Na Na Na Na Na Na?

Yes Ed that would do for me but maybe which one do people prefer first.
Cheers

{Ed013's Note - Lets see if it gets a reaction on here first mate}

02 Sep 2014 22:42:58
Yes it should. The na na na na na na is a part of history and is sacred.

Cheers ed good idea and well said scoops.

Definitely NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

Love this should definatly be a poll. took me a while to understand what on earth it was about. for the record yes it should be na na na na na na

{Ed013's Note - The poll is now up on the polls page}

Thank God somebody else thinks the same. I can't get used to the clapping thing at all. Bring back the NaNaNaNaNaNa's!

03 Sep 2014 09:35:30
I do the NA,NA,NA anyway, it's in my D-NA! MOT

Thanks guys great response in favour of, and 16 votes on the polls page and all for NA NA Na.

02 Sep 2014 19:42:30
Cant understand why people are crying over smith going, yeah he was a handful in the area and scored a handful of goals but no pace and skill. I would add also he gave 100% and wish him well, a very likeable man.I would suggest anyone saddened by smith going cheer themselves up by watching adryan on you tube. He's going to be a real handful for defences in this league, I know little about the others who come in but I am very excited indeed, been a phenomenal t'fer window for us.

Yeah I liked Matt a nice bloke but not a great player and a terrible first touch but good luck to him MOT

People are upset that a 42 goal partnership is playing for a division rival. trust mc but you must understand why people are bit upset take 42 goals off us and give that to fulham (i know it don't work like that but still). I would of prefered him go millwall I heard from people close to millwall they offered 1mill then up'd it to 1.4. just not to pair up with ross. also his 1st season with us was very good so shame he had to go really

02 Sep 2014 23:10:51
have you seen adryan burmonsey?!, I'm not worried.

No to be honest I never youtube players as I always get excited then let down (habi habibo is a good example of this). not worried I think we have signed good players and best leeds transfer window in years and years and going the right way for sure. just would rather smith of stayed and certainly not gone to help his mate out at fulham

My opinion of Smith is exactly the same as Bermondseys opinion of the Hock.
Enough said ;)

Tut tut Andy! Why would you want Smith stoned to death, shot at dawn and burnt at the stake. He wasn't THAT bad surely

I love hock don't know what you are chatting about. hock is my hero. FACT

02 Sep 2014 18:52:22
Too many people getting all emotional about Smith being sold!
While I agree he always spoke well about Leeds and gave 100%, ask yourselves was He really good enough?
I would hardly call him and Mc badgekisser a prolific strike force.
Poor clumsy touch, no dribbling ability, could be better in the air considering his height.
Definitely brought in better class of forward and to get anywhere near a mill is great business.
I think we have mugged Fulham twice in the same window.
Just my opinion and I might be proved wrong, but I doubt it.

Agree Trev
Don't for a minute think it was a financial decision. Hopefully more an indication of the style of football we are going to be playing. If it turns out that selling him was a big mistake, then we are going to be in a relegation fight imo

If selling Smith is the reason for us to be in a dogfight for league survival, then we are way off the mark. Really as a Center Forward I would give him a generous 5/10 with Rosco being a 8/10 on a good day at most (judge that on the way he played against Spurs. saying that Varney played just as well that night).

Yes Fredh . Totally agree. Smith seemed a nice enough lad, but really the way forward? I don't think so

Come on leeds fans be passionate about leeds but don't make us look stupid with silly comments. last year ross was one of the stand out players and if 42 goals in their 1st season together is not profilic I don't know what is. ed have we ever had a better two player goal record from a strike partnership in their 1st year playing together. also was there a better strike rate in just two strikers last year? I bet there wasnt many

{Ed013's Note - That is a very hard, but interesting question. I will have to do some research on this one. It maybe that Beckford and Becchio partnership was as lethal, but they played together for longer}

Not sure they clicked right away as I think kador played instead of becchio with becchio being a sub at first (might be wrong I drink a lot) also they were a league below and both very good players. i'd love becchio back to be honest. I reckon to find a better goal scoreing partnership in first season you have to go back to wallace and chapman and even wallace took a while to find his feet

Bermondsey
Although they were good last year that's 1 season out of Ross, s 10 as a pro. Look back at Ross, s record just 12 months before last year it's a worrying stat mate. Also he wanted to leave since Xmas so you can't even consider keeping a player that's had his head turned by pound notes ;(

You mean Kandol?

MM

Rosco made a lot of goals for himself and took (and missed. unforgiveable)penalties. I can`t remember them linking up well except for the knock on from a punt upfield. If we were 2 up against Fulham and they brought Smith on for the final 10 minutes I wouldn`t be too worried. would you?

Yeah I meant kandol (very dysleixic). true ross was amazing last year but very average (even below that) in years before. Maybe ross had a good year or maybe ross and smith worked well which is why I wouldn't pair them at another team when others were in for smith. don't mind smith going but not with ross even if just a mental thing that now they are paired it might give them both a lift

02 Sep 2014 17:41:18
Sorry guys but I'm old and past it.
Just been watching some of the glory days on utube.
I was actually there for nearly everything.
I know I'm an old giffer but we were awesome.
Great days and I desperately hope and pray they will come back in 3 years under my lunatic Italian friend.
Spoke to Peter and Eddie on Sat and they aren't confident but I'm hopeful.
What really upsets me is that nobody seems to recognise just how great Eric Cantona was for us.
Ooh Ahh Cantona started at ER not Man Utd.

Agreed! And if Wilko had built a team around Cantona like did that would be us up there this past 20 years. but oh no had to sell him . leaves a bitter taste still.

You been drinking mate, cantona was just a gloryfied sub for us. couldn't out chapman or wallace. also you sound like you are close to some of the players and/or the club so you will know the real reason cantona left, which is not nice. now if you want to talk super sub then Stevie hodge was the main man. he goals per minute record for leeds must be up there with the best of them. He only played about 45 minutes for leeds and got about 8 goals. Great leeds forwards cantona don't even get near top ten, maybe for man u but not for super leeds

Your delirious pal cantana was pure class and wilkinson sold him because he was too bigger star

To be blunt mate your wrong ask lee Chapman why Cantona was sold mate nudge nudge get the idea he likes the ladies and they liked him that's why he left

Thats the reason I am on about. not very nice, terry did it and was made the villian cantana the hero. He really wasnt that influential at leeds more of a sub. Wilko's team fell apart becuase he never sorted out the defence and keeper. He just sorted it out with some great players and then was sacked. Still think O'learys best players were all wilko signings and wilo never got enough credit for that, a truly great manager

I think the fans that followed Wilko's team certainly gave him the credit for what he achieved. "Seargeant Wilko's Barmy Army" was blasted out nearly as much as Marching On Together from the Geldered End, Lowfields Terrace and South Stand at every home game. Everyone knew it was Wilko and the amazing 'Mad Mick' Hennigan who started the revolution.

MM

I agree I mean wilko laid foundation for our oleary team (martyn, radadbe, boywer) but then got sacked before he had the chance to make them work. for me o'leary was poor and threw away good work by graham and wilko. never a fan of o'leary other than viduka don't think he made a good signing

02 Sep 2014 14:41:35
True value of Smith's transfer was slightly in excess of 750k. Poleon went for a 100k. Source is Phil Hay. Poleon contains significant sell-on clause. My opinion is the Smith fee should have been an extra half million or so but given Ross amount no-one at our club anyway can legitimately complain. We had a great summer window overall.

02 Sep 2014 12:12:37
Anyone else think all the negativism we and Cellino have received in the media in recent weeks has been undeserved. Personally I don't think we've been this alive in years. We're debt free, not losing millions every month and signing players that aren't free transfers! Sure Cellino has his 'ways' but I much prefer this to the Bates and GFH eras. Think people need to look at what we have and not what we don't. Get it right on the pitch, which I believe we will and we'll be flying.

Couldn't agree more. Top post ValleyWhite.

It's a simple question, would I swap our current situation with MC to go back to the days with Papa Smurf or GFH? Hell no!

There is no doubt we're more financially sound. The football WILL follow, but not overnight. Everyone, fans and media need to calm the flock down and see what happens. People (fans and media) are far too quick to judge. I can understand why with the likes of Bates and GFH screwing us over, year after year, I completely understand why people will assume the worst.

I just think MC should be judged at then end of the season, or possibly even Christmas, but not 4 games in.

Come back Bates, all is forgiven. NOT!

Agree 100% I think for the first time in years we are under the radar in terms of what people expect and odds etc. think we might suprise a few people

Agree whole heartedly, there is a positivity about the place, just wish those persons on the so called worlds largest sports radio station and the beeb would stop referring to us as being in a mess, they need to hear we were but we're not now and hopefully we are on the way back, but outside of Yorkshire that's not newsworthy is it?

Couldn't agree more guys well said . We are laughing compared to the last few years . Who would have believed a transfer window like we have just had? even last January lol

Spot on, a I have said before no way would GF + Master Bates would have had us in such a positive position on/off pitch.

We just need a good coach/manager now and we will be well set, MC may do that or may not, either way we are in the best position as a club for years.

Having said that hope the ER crowds come back as at the moment the likes of Derby/norwich/Brighton better and even the Wendies are just a few hundred behind, average of 22605 this year is pants really, with MC investment hopefully 30000 for the hudder game

02 Sep 2014 11:14:26
Doukara signed permenant deal on tranfer deadline day leaving room for another loanee. One more signing ''didn't come to fruition'' on deadline day but could be done when loan window opens according to O/S. Anyone know of who it might be?

02 Sep 2014 10:09:51
Very happy with transfer window. Glad (and surprised) Sam didn't go - thought Pearce might go also. Need good new coach now, and new captain (sorry Jason), and things should start to pick up.

On a totally different topic, anyone know what on earth is happening with Robbie McDaid?

McDaid only recently got international clearance but he is still young and playing for our youth team, hopefully he'll take the step up to first team over the next few years

02 Sep 2014 09:25:45
Not surprised Smiths gone, he was not going to get much first team action here, imo a good back up player if Fulham are looking at starting him good luck. I know him and Ross scored a lot of goals but we were still lucky not to be relegated so maybe that style of play is no good for this division. If you look at teams who did well all play fast attacking football you can't do that with Smithy. Poleon will do well in league one maybe build his awareness, good luck to him. When loan window opens hope rest of last years team are on their way. Keep Byram until Jan. and hope we get some cover at left back. Heard the fee was 500,000 plus settling his contract so not bad business. Onwards and upwards. MOT

02 Sep 2014 08:42:56
Smith out? Hunt stays. That's the most irritating news of the window

The unfortunate thing is nobody wants Hunt so we're stuck with him until we buy out his contract.

02 Sep 2014 07:44:53
Becchio back at ER this season after signing for Millers a few ex players got the chance to haunt us ;(

02 Sep 2014 06:19:23
Poleon has signed for Oldham.

So we sell Smith & Poleon but keep Hunt?

02 Sep 2014 07:23:58
I can see some players being packed off on loan and / or contracts cancelled by the end of the week as MC will not pay them to just hang around! Unless of course Hunt is one of the wingers we have been after (lol).

That's because no one wants Hunt!

02 Sep 2014 00:02:02
Not upset at all by Smiths departure.
As a team you should defend from the front and in all honesty he was just to big and slow to close down. Also the option just to hoof it forward has now gone and a player like Smith are easy to negate by simply cutting off the supply. Smith was never going to run past anyone, lash in a 30 yarder or dribble past 3 round the keeper and slot one home.
Over the past week we have added pace, flair and youth to the squad and team and with the right coach I am very confident for the future.
Let's not forget the players that are leaving got us to 15 th last season!
Off the field MC is getting things sorted, contracts that give the club control, hungry young players not journeymen looking for a final payday and I for one will applaud him for it.
MC said the prem next season and with these youngsters given time to bed in you can see why.
Can't wait for Sept 20 th MOT

1LU good post

Smith and ross where our only bright lights last year. to sell a striker is fair enough but to then sell the other successful partnership for 500k seems really silly to me. they kept us up together what might they achieve at fulham? Smith was worth a lot more and sell him to any other team than fulham. if they do as well as last year they will rip up league

Bermondsey your never happy mate never.

1LU
Very well put agree 100% as for Ross HE wanted to go ya can't keep anyone who don't want to stay!

To be honest Bermondsey its very doubtful Macca would have matched last season and as for Smith its horses for courses, I just don't think Massimo wants us to pay hoof ball to him . I would personally liked to keep Smith, but he would have been a been a bench warmer at best. We have bought in a few new strikers and they must be given a chance Billy Sharp for Macca looks like great business to me . A decent coach now and we can enjoy going to see some excitement missing for a long time . MOT