Leeds Banter Archive August 30 2012
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30 Aug 2012 21:57:18
Woohooo
Leeds V Everton Get in !! Gj
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Bet tickets are,nt £12
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I was really hoping for this clash as I like watching Everton at mo, still hope we can beat them though. MOT Ron
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Everton fan here,ur cup run ends here
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Get in? were gonna smash you
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Everton will batter us. it's not the glamour tie i wanted.
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30 Aug 2012 21:54:08
Everton at home. Unfortunately they're in form and an in form Everton is virtually unstoppable. I hope we just let the youngsters get a run-out.
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Meets a inform MIGHTY WHITES, lets have it you plastic scousers.
BARMY ARMY!!
mot4life
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Why 5 disagrees? everton are unstoppable on top form just hope they have a bad night
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Everton not that good plus historically we got good record against them. I fancy us to win with our best side on the pitch.
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30 Aug 2012 21:20:27
dont know about the rest of you but Ive lost interest in the TO. i think our imediate future lies in the loan market and with the contacts NW has we could get some decent quality in - only sticking point will be wages. would love to see beckford back at some point though. MOT 4 EVA
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I think our immediate future lies in trying to win games and stay injury free....
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30 Aug 2012 20:58:54
Anyone else thinking that Warnock will try to get clint hill on loan since QPR have basically frozen him out since they have onuha, ferdinand and are trying to get m'bia and Carvalho
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If they agree to pay his wages
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If they agree to pay his wages
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And how are they going to pay his wages (especially twice - lol!)
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30 Aug 2012 20:55:03
Bates aint gonna sign, season tickets last shout funny same time as it comes in the current bun deal done in 72 hrs what a load of bull. No new signings or deals before the window shuts. But we are leeds and we carry on no matter what our backs have been against the wall before. We all know what bates is about F.him i say.
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The only place we will be going is league one again when he sends us into administration again. The stubborn old fool.
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30 Aug 2012 20:25:08
5 weeks ago I posted that there is no take over at Leeds but just a smokescreen to get the fans off kb's back, I was called a Hudderslfield fan and other such fowl names on the back of this statement. I would just like to point out that any players brought in have been funded by the sales of our better players and not from any external investment, I would also like to say that many many clubs have been taken over or bought out over the years and on every osccasion the press get hold of the story and publicise it before the actual announcment from the club, all we have had is speculation and rumours from fans. As much as I would like to believe a takeover is iminent why would anyone buy a club after the transfer window shuts when you will have months where you have no impact on the bussiness you have just bought, you may as well wait till January to buy!!
Anyway KB has made it to the end of the tranfer window once again and fans have bought season tickets and merchandise so why would he go anywhere when he is raping the fans of hard earned dosh. I believe we have to go backwards to go forwards and to get shut of the OAP. Boycott several games,he will lose interest fast if no money is coming in for him then we can look to a bright future and the premier league
MOT
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What a load of rubbish. It's only stayed hush hush because of the clause and only a few ppl are involved so any leak would be easy to find and a massive suit would be filed.
The takeover will happen just not yet bates wants top dollar the buyers won't pay it so they will haggle until bates goes bust of buyers give in.
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"so any leak would be easy to find and a massive suit would be filed"
Total crap, I could post anything I want on to the internet and you'd never find out who I was or where I was from!
All I do is go and buy a mobile dongle, sit in a car with a laptop and post whatever I want on the net.....
So how would you sue me for that then?
Oh, and by the way, this isn't what I am doing at the moment, this is a genuine post from a genuine computer with a genuine ISP - but you still don't know who I am, as it's not actually MY computer........
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30 Aug 2012 20:14:55
would just like to say regarding the takeover, i at this point couldnt give a monkeys toss if it happens or not. dont get me wrong would be nice but we are leeds and we will be here long after bates has gone .MOT
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Not if ken bates has anything to do with it
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30 Aug 2012 19:55:38
Nice watching ssn exciting transfer deadline news when u know there's not a chance in hell us doing anything.even Maynard whom has been linked with us for ages is going to Cardiff by the looks.
Then we have Rhodes playing Saturday aiming to prove his well overpriced transfer.
Jan will be too late,we will be ok for few weeks then injuries and susp will kick in..still worrying times
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Guys, LUFC are rated as the one of the best football investments clubs in the UK. This is because we are a one club city and have not only an extremely large UK fan base (where ever i go i always bump into a Leeds fan) we also have a large international fan base (i was in the hiils of Cyprus recently in a bar and what was on the wall....a LUFC scarf and the guy i sat next to was a LUFC fan. None of us fans know when this takeover will happen, BUT it will in the next days to months. We are a great investment. I would love to know the strangest places you have seen a LUFC fan. We will rise again. Bristol Leeds ( i was born in Leeds and my 15 yearold son who was born in Bristol loves the Leeds as well. Keep spreading the word. If you lose faith in the name LUFC so will others. We must promote the badge with pride!! amen.
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Hi, strangest place for a Leeds fan? That would have to be the Bates office.
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One team city then why the poor crowds . bates i know ticket prices i know but we should be getting bigger crowds .mot
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Met a family of them in Afghanistan when I was in a tour there haha thought that would be quite strange
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"then injuries and susp will kick in..still worrying times"
Bit worrying that Green is already out for up to 8 weeks after only his first game...?
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"One team city then why the poor crowds . bates i know ticket prices i know but we should be getting bigger crowds "
You answered your own question - the reason is Bates!
I'm certainly not going to pay the near hundred pounds it would cost me to get to Elland Road and back for a game while he is still in charge. I don't mind paying the fares to watch the team, but I do draw the line at putting the gate money into Bates's pocket - sorry!
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30 Aug 2012 19:09:31
Hey guys just wanna say if we wanna get papa smurf out we should not turn up to all low key matches ie vs peterburgh Barnsley watford etc .
So Ken loses money and the takeover may happen .
Mot
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Think on it fella, the games not to go to would be the class A games as he would lose more money!
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Yeah great idea lets stop supporting our team
That will help
Let's start buying Huddersfield shirts too
Oh you already have one
Well f##k off our site then
Russjon
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Shocking idea! Get behind the lads!
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Some off us have season tickets n regardless whether we turn up or nt weve paid for it
Bainesyboy
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I'm still going to the games but I understand those who choose not to fund the Bates regime. Maybe Russjon and others like him need to grow up a bit and respect the fact that other people are entitled to their views and can choose to protest in whatever way they see fit? Banter is fine - but insults coupled with bad language just degrades us all. Not needed...
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Not turning up for games just makes the players wonder why they came here - that will surely have an effect on how they play - even at the games that are well attended - bad idea i'm afraid fella
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Hi, I agree with the reply regarding language and insults.
Foul and insulting language is the last refuge of the poorly educated.
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You carn't slate him for not wanting to line Bates's pockets because when we had full houses sometimes last season, did that change the outcome. NO! We still sold are best players. So that isn't working then. People have the right to choose what they feel might make a differece. Ive been to one game this season but i'm finding it hard to want to give my money to that sad old man, when i could use it to take my 2 children somewhere nice. Doesn't make me anyless a fan. It makes me feel i'm going to get what i want for my money, love and respect. I get the love from Leeds but were is the respect.
BARMY ARMY!!
mot4life
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As much as i don't like Kenneth, I love Leeds United more and i wouldn't dream of staying away.
TeejLUFC
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Ha poorly educated am I
The bloke is talking tat and surely I'm entitled to a response or are the only people allowed an opinion the ones you agree with
Protest however you feel you need to but remember Leeds utd will be around long after bates has gone
And to be fair he saved us
I think if it wasn't the Chelsea link then he would get a lot better write up from us
I do want him out but I also want fickle self pitying fans like you gone as well
Bet you loved risdale when he was spending
No protest then
Look where that got us
Also apologies for my educational problems
Russjon
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No he didn't save us. He put us into administration in the first place and somehow convinced the administrators to hand the club back fro a pittance when there were other offers.
And for the record - the education bit wasn't from me, I try to avoid personal comments, but the respect/language comments were.
I don't agree with boycotting matches either but it's not my place to tell others how to spend their money and if they hate Bates enough to not want to go that's their prerogative.
They do have a strong argument though - economic sanctions have been used as a very effective political tool for decades. Forcing Bates to sell by squeezing profits is a tactic which would probably work - I personally just don't want to do it.
And the personal abuse/language was uncalled for Russjon - you haven't said anything about that.
ML
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30 Aug 2012 18:46:47
Ed13s note last night says,there will be more rumours today because haigh is in the country this weekend,the sun are putting 2+2 together and coming up with 5.
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Stop lying, the s(h)un couldn't put anything together, especially not numbers.....
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30 Aug 2012 18:27:57
nothing on calendar about take over hmmmm, on and on ariston. thats who should sponsor leeds lol
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30 Aug 2012 15:15:42
may have two tickets spare for leeds v blackburn this weekend they are junior tickets though u16 please contact me if interested 20 quid
sammyleedsfan {Ed013's Note - I cant let your number out, leave an email in the required box and if there is any interest I will pass it on}
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Ed send me his email mate, thanks pal,
mot4life {Ed013's Note - I wil when he sends it mate}
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Cheers ed.
mot4life
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30 Aug 2012 17:44:05
Sick of this don't ever post on hear but do take a look most days. How the hell do expect to go up when all the other championship teams can afford players that cost millions never mind thousands bates out now!! Mot
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30 Aug 2012 16:30:23
I dont oftend moan on here and im always possative when its comes to leeds but what i f**k is going on at ER No Money to buy players No takeover yet clubs bidding on are targets ie maynard boyd etc and we cant compete with that.
everyone saying if we r in play offs in january and the takeover has been completed then we can push on, i see it if 2-3 players and i mean inportant players for us get injured then we will be in mid-table and screwed.
I am hoping that i am wrong but i suppose that is the life of a leeds fan
what are your views Ed?
Tim {Ed013's Note - Frustrated, but Neil must know something or he would walk away}
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30 Aug 2012 16:28:35
Jordan Rhodes to Blackburn for £8m...no doubt will play his socks off against us on Saturday.
How can we compete with relegated teams buying their way back to the Premierdhip with parachute money, and we still have Ken!
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30 Aug 2012 15:36:22
From what I remember the last time greyson had millions to spend on a player he bought billy 'barn door' paynter. What a really good signing that was. Good look cow-nipples field town!
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He was free and we were skint.
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Cow nipples field lmao love it!
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Grayson never had money to spend pal, and Billy cost nothing, don't be too quick to jump on Town cos with the addition of Beckford, Hammill, McCormack?? And maybe a couple more loans etc we may find ourselves in their shadows. I'm a big Leeds fan mate but lets leave the bitching until a bit later on, see how were actually getting on eh?
With every fibre of my being I want nothing more than a dominant Leeds again, but, at least hopefully until January we can only really call ourselves competitive, which granted is a far cry from last season. Keep your chin up, like Ed said earlier, there's something going on at ER, something good too or Warnock would've scarpered!
At least until the world stops going round!
Chris, Wakey
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30 Aug 2012 15:31:14
So burn splash 8 on Rhodes = 20 25 goals plus 15 20 fro
Other striker. Not that great value and not that great rest of team either. If we had 8, I would spend 3 on striker 3 on fast creative mf and 1 on backup d, m and s!
From what ive seen in first three games, this league may not be as tough as I thought, pool aside, who look class and we Are in better shape than I thought we would be.
The future is bright. Bates going going go...
Money to spend in jan and I predict. 2nd in the
League, knock out Norwich in cup and man utd in
Fa cup and although kewell. Smith. Snodgrass. And
Beckford ask to come home, we say....
NO!!
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30 Aug 2012 14:17:10
Why is everybody getting excited about a report in the sun,where is the story on official site or reported on Yorkshire radio,there is a confidentiality clause in negotiations,so they will know as much as we do,that is nothing.
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Do u knw wat ur talking about if ur a leeds fan then u would support ur team if sum1 says takeover is gona happen believe it then if not true then say oh f**k and get over it ,the sun is more reiable thn eny other paper
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Not necessarily the case - information is often selectively leaked to journalists - a practice known as 'briefing'. Not sure The Sun is too reliable a source though.
ML
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30 Aug 2012 13:39:12
so yep dont know,o/s dont know,ssn dont know,lust dont know...but the sun,they know everything so everyone believing again..haha come on..shrew leeds
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They've got some of there mates from the old news of the world team to tap KB's phone :)
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30 Aug 2012 13:25:59
Lots of people crowing and gloating
about the possibility that Ken Bates
could have left the club in the next
few days. He did well for Chelsea
but he has had a lot of stick from
Leeds fans so you never know what
he has done and sold out to.It may
be that the new owners are worse
than him and his predecessors.
Sometimes what you hope for turns
out to be what you didn't want.
How many owners have portsmouth
had, for example and what were
they like? Look at some of the
other clubs who have had their
assets stripped. I dont know Ken
Bates but we were down and
almost out when he took charge
but we have improved consistently
albeit slowly over the years. We
may have new owners shortly lets
see what they do before cheering
the exit of Ken Bates. Lets hope its like Chelsea rather than Portsmouth!
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Improved, and your planet is? I firmly believe that apart from the back 4 we had a better side going forward in league 1.
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I could not agree more. Another example of a club stagnating under so called rich new money owners. Aston Villa! We know nothing. Its not beyond the realms of possiblity that we could be in the same position as we were when Mr Ridsdale left and a Mr Krasner and his cronies took over. Be careful what we wish for. Heres hoping for some good news.
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BATES OUT OUT OUT AND SOON
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I watched them in every division as a season ticket holder includind all the losses in the play offs. Good going forward in league one- defence very shaky. Crept over the line against Bristol city. Consolidating in Championship. Couldn't cut it to start with. Now much more solid. To me that says slow but steady progress doesn't mean we are good or that we would necessarily be better with a sheik in charge. That's the planet I am from.
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Even if its only being brokered by GFH. The ceo of that company is David Haigh, a life long LUFC fan. So i doubt things arew goin to be nothing less than miles better.
BARMY ARMY!!
mot4life
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30 Aug 2012 13:21:59
See that Lee Bowyer is out of contract... past it ?
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You've answered your own question mate....past it
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Would tarnish club. New owner no likey.
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Very past it.
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30 Aug 2012 12:33:50
Wham Ken has finally left the building which we believe will be Saturday / Sunday our next home game will be : Hull City
Tuesday 18th @ 7.45
Lets al show the new owners what our club means to us ..... they will then I'm sure make monies available to NW to strengthen the side during the emergency window.
KB .. thanks, take the money and do one ... you can't take us to the next stage so it's time for you to bow out ...... I think we can all start dreaming again ... :-)
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30 Aug 2012 11:53:21
I don't care what's happening behind closed doors anymore. Given the fack that Neil has had the same to deal with as Grayson did last season and last season with Howson, Gradel Snodgrass we hadn't won a game and we have now lost one in five and kept 3 consecutive clean sheets at home. I'm happy. Long may it continue
Sam luFC
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Remember the DOL season when were almost unbeatable up until January and then nearly failed to qualify for the Champions League? 3rd place was handed to us on a plate by Liverpool imploding in the end.
Don't want to sound negative and there's a bit of devil's advocate here but I do think it's a bit early to read too much into this and assume this will last all season. We've beaten 4 poor to very poor teams, Wolves included, and been completely outclassed by the only good team we've had to play.
Another way of looking at this is Warnock win rate 29%, Grayson win rate 50%. Get some perspective and let's see where we are by Christmas.
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More than 3/4 of that % is from Graysons team. So at the moment its Grayson 50% win rate and Warnock 80% win rate, with own players, stick to the facts properly mate.
BARMY ARMY!!
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Like I said - bit of devil's advocate in there. You can prove anything with statistics.
Warnock was brought in last year to improve things and last year he failed - very badly. If he's a better manager he should have been getting better results with the same players last year as well as this. This 'his own players' argument is nonsense.
The real point though is this - singing Warnock's praises on the basis of 5 results, 2 against lower league teams and 2 against poor teams, seems to me to a bit premature.
Read the posts on this site after each game - certain promotion after Wolves, doom & gloom after Blackpool. Too early to say either way don't you think?
I'll make a judgement come December rather than getting carried away in August.
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Not getting carried away. Just going on the fact Warnock has his own set of players now and none of them players from last season stopped us from leaking goals. So no matter who was the manager, them players were not up to the task. Now tell me how many goals Warnocks players have let in so far and don't for get, yes we did get beat by Blackpool but only by 2-1. Ipswich got took apart and we were in there back yard. So yes you are right its to early to say this is the season but bringing in a whole new squad in a short space of time and this is what you get. Just imagine if he had the funds for the iceing. I don't see one weak link but in Grayson's team, i couldn't even see a chain. I exspect good things, if he gets the chance to bring in another 2-3 players to bolster the squad.
BARMY ARMY!!
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Original poster here :) love how on a very positive post people can still turn the negatives. I was simply stating that we had kept clean sheets at home and won games. You can only beat what's put in front of you and with the exception of Blackpool we have and not looked shakey at the back (with the exception of Blackpool)
All I was trying to do was create some positivity around here but I guess I was wrong?
What are your thoughts ed?
Sam luFC {Ed013's Note - I like positivity on here (it doesn't come often!}, but also understand people's frustrations. We are a stronger unit and it makes a change to trust the defence. 2-3 good players needed to be a very good force}
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Positivity's good - I believe we'll win every match at 3pm on a Saturday - but a reality check's also good now and again. As for Blackpool - if you were there you'll know that the scoreline flattered us.
ML {Ed013's Note - White Hart mate, let the beer flow tomorrow}
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30 Aug 2012 11:46:43
So happy to wake up to the news of bates leaving!! I have 100% confidence that mr warnock will be able to keep us in the mix until Christmas and then with the investment in January we can push for an automatic spot! MOT
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Spot on - if this comes good then the January transfer window should be a busy time for Warnock --
Woody LUFC
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Dont count your chickens. If there is to be a new owner lets see what they are like first before we start cheering. Beware of Greeks(or sheiks) bearing gifts.
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"So happy to wake up to the news of bates leaving! "
...here we go again?
Believe it when you see it for real, surely you don't think the sun knows something nobody else in the world knows??
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30 Aug 2012 11:36:16
may have two tickets spare for leeds v blackburn this saturday they are junior tickets under 16 though please contact me if intersted 20 quid for both {Ed013's Note - Please leave e-mail details in the correct field and I will pass them on}
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30 Aug 2012 11:29:44
Last call on OS for season tickets or Mr B bonus?? time for him to get as much money as he can before he sell this weekend!
Please please Buy us soon!!
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This sums up what the club thinks about us fans, we have no money to bring in players, we have the longest takevoer in history yet lets get some more mugs to fork out for a season ticket £800 for me and my lad in family stand - Get Real!!
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This sums up what bates thinks about us leeds fans,not the club as a whole thats unfair
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30 Aug 2012 10:38:39
This is great news about Mr Bates!the news paper in question is usually on the money.fantastic news, but just too late for the deadline,may persuade diouf to sign though!this is the news I've been waiting for!
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The company in question
I don't know if I trust them ive heard there loses are rudiculas can somone please shed some light.
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Now then lads,
Just in response to the finance situation at GFH...
In 2010 they posted net losses of $340+ million, however following strong shareholder support and a huge turnaround in trading etc the Company posted net profits of $380,000 in 2011...now that may not seem like much, however, if you put it into perspective the Company have had a turnround in fortunes of somewhere in the region of $400million! If this rate has continued into 2012, as planned, the Company will be sitting on net profits of somewhere in the region of $350-$400million...
I hope this clears things up for you and all concerned. MOT!!
Youngie!!
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Wouldnt put it past him to pay the snu to put that, reveryone go rush get a season ticket before sat, and lo and behold, the deals off...
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I've heard from good friends who work in finance companies that the debt was bigger than that and was approx $750M. There have been restructuring plans in place since then and this has been considerably reduced but they don't sound like the kind of people i'd want running the club. However if they have passed the FA's fit and proper person test then there can't be any issue.
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Also, worth pointing out that it is in fact GFH Capital that are fronting the bid, not GFH.
That's where David Haigh is CEO, and also the Chairman of GFH Capital (H.E Dr Ahmed Al Mutawa) has some interesting links into Al-Mubarek and the UAE Government.
My guess is GFH Capital are fronting and financed by backers linked to Al-Mubarek.
The actual website (Ed, if you can post) is www.gfh-capital.com
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30 Aug 2012 10:10:50
72 hrs,that makes it just after the transfer window closes,BRILLIANT.
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Who cares if window shuts know what i would rather see happen bates go all day long
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Can I point the difference between 'in the next 72 hours' and 'in 72 hours' this rumour could still mean it goes through before the transfer window closes.
But we will know in 72 hours if it's true or not.
LUFC-Bob
P.S. I think we are down to 'within the next 60 hours' now, let's hope for it to be resolved sooner.
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P.S. I think you have all been reading too many fairy tales.....
...why else would you believe this rubbish, posted in just one single media outlet?
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30 Aug 2012 10:00:03
This is not a rumour but I think the deal has to be done by the transfer window close so the new owners have time to get in more players otherwise if not I can see this rumbling on and on.
If true about bates financial situation and Leeds crowds falling then I'm sure the new would be owners will wait until bates is so desperate to sell they get a great deal.
No one really knows what is going on its all half stories 2+2= 25.i hope we find out the reason why it took so long but I'm sure bates has made them sign confidentially clauses to keep it quiet but I have a feeling old bates has been fleecing us for years and now the till is empty no more players to sell ticket sales money for next 2 years used to pay back loans he took out to build more corporate offices court case money owed so think we're in a right mess.
Hope we can just focus on our great team again instead of debt debt debt.
Come on Leeds I'll be there Saturday cheering on our 2-1 win over Blackburn.
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Disagree. Deal should be concluded mid to late Friday evening with a host of Bates favorable changes to the usual deal if the seller had not been greedy and senile. Will leave insufficient time for incoming transfers. Reason will not ramble on. I'm hearing strong rumor NW has given KB til December 1st to do takeover otherwise he walks. NW been more than reasonable so far and he doesn't want the emotions and uncertainty going into the winter window. Bates knows he's done with the fans and all at the club.
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Hi, so NW is calling the shots? He is instructing the owner on what to do with his club? Interesting.
On a much smaller level, I know what I would do if one of my employees tried the same thing.
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"I'm hearing strong rumor NW has given KB til December 1st to do takeover otherwise he walks. NW been more than reasonable so far and he doesn't want the emotions and uncertainty going into the winter window. Bates knows he's done with the fans and all at the club."
Dream on mate, It's Bates who hires and fires people here, not Warnock......
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30 Aug 2012 08:18:56
This lack of investment could leave us way behind clubs in the championship even huddersfield, by the end of the transfer window they will have a better side than us,the difference between there chairman and ours is,he will re invest any transfer fees into the team cos he is ambitious,so the 8m they get for Rhodes will be pumped back into the team,I bet Grayson is having a right old laugh at Warnock who can do nothing because he has not got a pot to p--s in..
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All we need is a couple more players and we will give this league a run for the money. Plus Grayson hasn't got 8 million to spend because its only that high, if he meets all thats exspected. We have the best manager in this league and that is priceless.
People are forgetting for some reason Ipswich sold him from the championship and that must of been for a reason. In my book, this lad is has not been tested in this league but i coild be wrong and time will tell. One thing is for sure, 2 of ares are tested in this league mac and becc and it will be like a new signing when Somma comes back into the fold.
Huddersfield are goin to have to go down the same path as us, loan market. There isn't anothe time to sign someone now i feel. Plus the fact still remains, we are above them and long may that continue.
BARMY ARMY!!
mot4life
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They sold him because Roy Keane was the manager.
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30 Aug 2012 07:49:59
Stories in media of deal to buy leeds and bates to go fandabidozi.
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Which paper is reporting all this pal? I really do hope this is the beginning of the end.
TIME TO GO, TIME TO GO, NOW F++K OFF!!
BARMY ARMY!!
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30 Aug 2012 08:11:31
The current bun are running a story saying bates will step down as chairman in next 72 hours. Usually wouldn't believe anything printed in the sun but I'm hoping this one is true
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the take over happened the secon the window shuts either.
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Hopefully a light at the end of this dark tunnel
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This will be the long kiss goodnight, Mr Bates. Ridsdale nearly killed are club and will never be forgiven for it but atleast he didn't leech and suck the life out of it.
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30 Aug 2012 05:53:40
Guess Blackburn will win the league now. Probably with the other Black (pool) coming runners-up. We should make play-offs. Got to keep players fit.
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