Leeds Banter Archive December 30 2020

 

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30 Dec 2020 23:08:14
Berm you do contribute some very valid points at times but I think we’ll agree to disagree when it comes to KP and Bielsa, no coach or player is perfect and that includes them, I rate these two individuals very highly, you take both Bielsa and Kalvin Phillips out of the equation of Leeds Utd and I can say to you without any doubt in my mind, we would still be mid table in the Championship, or lower!
I personally don’t like to knock or criticize any of our players so long as they are honest and do their best for the club and their fans, regardless of their footballing limitations. That includes Cooper and Berra. The natural evolution of the club will decide when the club doesn’t need their services anymore. Meantime we should support them all, like our song Marching on Together, that for me is, Leeds United.

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31 Dec 2020 00:09:11
I agree with the sentiment and it is very much a south London thing. when you wear my teams shirt and represent my team I will judge you. play well I will idolise you, play poorly I will slag you off. As professionals plaid to play football it is part of the teratory just like with my job (and I get judged the same way)

Belisa has his great points but the way he is idolised for me is ott same with Phillips

Belisa fine good job but still a lot wrong and for me he is not in top three managers in the world.

Same with Phillips he should be knowhere near England team

Both have great points but both have great flaws. That said I got great pleasure out of our two wins with no goals conceded from set plays espically the scrappy win at burley

I got great joy from Phillips display in that game which was with ayling motm performance

I want Leeds to do well but I’m not from Yorkshire I’m from outside the bubble and see things differently

I pray next time we play a fast counter attacking team Phillips don’t get roasted and cost us goals. I hate us cocerdeing goals but I think it will happen

Maybe I do focus on the negatives but that is my nature I also love it when it goes right.

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31 Dec 2020 08:18:54
Who are the top 3 managers in the world and realistically do you think Leeds would be able to attract them?

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31 Dec 2020 11:42:02
Berm, you keep using the "outside the Yorkshire bubble so I see things differently".

Here is some news for you. I too am outside the Yorkshire bubble, yet I do think like a lot of the "Yorkshire bubble" People.
In fact I was born in Lancashire which should make me anti-Yorkshire, but it doesn't
I lived in Merseyside during the successful Liverpool era.
I lived in South Manchester during the successful Man Utd era.
By all reasoning I should have not been a Leeds fan but I am, and proud. And surprise surprise I love Bielsa and what he has done for my club. I love that a kid from the academy has made it all the way to an England cap whilst staying with us. I loved it when Smith and Robinson did the same but they were already PL players. Phillips has done it from the Championship.
You can slag them off as much as you like but don't get all "Carney" about it and believe that no one is entitled to challenge your myopic views.

Not sure the vast majority of posters on her have said that Bielsa is one of the top 3 managers in the world, but here you go again using it as some controversy to stir up the site. A typical day in your office.
Mind you I think there is a panel out there who do and many of them voted for Bielsa to be in that position. Mind you, what do they know, they will all have been born in Yorkshire according to your rhetoric.

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31 Dec 2020 12:05:53
'Dont get all Carney about it' lol.

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31 Dec 2020 13:24:06
Alf top three managers is hard ask I would instead say managers who have punched above there weight, managers who have took small teams and overachieved, managers who have learnt from there mistakes,

For me dyce, Wilde and Wagner are three who stand out for me for fitting that criteria and in our history wilko is the only manger I can think of who overachieved. Belisa has got us playing the best football ever but with huge flaws, conisitant results against certain teams that are poor (against the likes of Wigan for example) and I have seen the same problems over again. In my head we are a top ten team so we would have to finish 6th or higher for me to say overachieved like when wilko finished 4th then 1st.

As for the bubble fair enough Alex you are outside of it, but you still have that sentiment that I don’t have. I loved Robinson, Delph and cook from the academy because they was good. I always thought smith and Phillips are over rated. I also don’t have the gate when they sign for Man Utd, it simply done any bother me. I don’t dislike Rio I think he was one of our greatest defenders ever while smith was below average player

I don’t get karney about it, have your views, what I hate is like with you it gets personal and people say don’t take it personal. it is personal which is fine but call it what is it

I also don’t mind debate but I hate it when I am constantly taken out of context. I hate when I am right I get shouted down and when I am wrong I get ridiculed

Let’s be honest my views on both Phillips and belisa are 100% fair and pretty accurate

Belisa teams play great football, he is one of the best coaches in the world, the style and how he improved the players is world class.

However as a manager he is deeply flawed, at championship we was constantly unable to work our how to beat the rubbish yet physical teams who dat back. Everyone else beat them hence they was near bottom of league yet they consistently beat us

He is also easy to predict therefore some prem managers work him out. Palace, lesctier, Man Utd and even Fulham after Scott Parker’s sub worked out how to hit our soft belly and put a large number of goals past us

I think my last two paragraphs are very insightful and accurate but the out of context misquoting etc got me a lot of stick than is fair

Phillips the same, world class at passing a ball his vision is second to none. If like Everton you let him play he will rip you to bits. He was also great against burley sitting back so you couldn’t get behind him

On the flip side his lack of pace with poor positioning makes him our weak point against certain teams. Look at the Man Utd game he was at fault for all the goals. I have put an in-depth critic on where his lack of pace and positioning has cost us. again this is all fair accurate and insightful but it is taken out of context or misquoted

So now Alex using just what is above do you think what I have said is fair. if not debate that’s fine I’m not karney if you take out of context I will get dicked off which I think is fair.

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31 Dec 2020 14:45:59
Berm, your views on Philips and Bielsa are far from 100% fair and accurate unless 100% of people agree with you. One day both will probably be gone from Leeds and many of us may change our view maybe not, fans of a club are fairly fickle. No player or manager, coach or person is without fault, even the very best. Me personally I don't rate Tyler Roberts but will defend him while he pulls on a Leeds shirt, far from continually banging on about their faults because they will have bad games, doesn't prove you right. Maybe says more about you that you need to be right, sadly you spouted off about KP never playing for England and something about a Tattoo, you were wrong and the tat never happened. I have no real issue with you pal other than it seems you would rather be proved right to the detriment of our club, me personally I am usually happy to be proved wrong if it means Leeds do well. Cheer up fella, the club is doing ok, and happy New year.

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31 Dec 2020 15:02:53
Good post Mezzer.

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31 Dec 2020 15:22:34
Bit harsh Mezzer posted on here when we went up how delighted I was to be wrong, was first to post on this site that Phillips was amazing against burley and how impressed I was with him in that game and against Everton so I am very vocal when I think I’m right I’m equally vocal and delighted when wrong that’s my point. some on here as you just proved only seem to notice half my posts. you are happy to jump on me at certain points yet ignore others. you just proved that

On your point you don’t think I’m 100% right in my post above. please in any form of detail tell me where I am wrong in my assement of belisa and or Phillips? Happy to debate . it is one thing saying I’m wrong it is quite another saying how I am wrong. yet another thing that annoys me and rightly so I would say

I put my opinions on here but always back them up so rather than saying I’m wrong tell me how?

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31 Dec 2020 16:58:42
Bermo, you ask for me to debate but then in the same post you go back to the "I am 100% right" yet again

Its not worth the effort typing when that's the initial stance you cone from.

I have no idea who you are so I am not sure what your definition of "personal" is. As in personal attack. I have read your views and find myself 180 degree in contrast, with my own views and am willing to text my views on here too. If that's a personal attack then so be it, and welcome to a world less snowflaky.

You don't rate Phillips, whoopee do. Your in a minority on here. I didn't much rate Lukic, seeing Martyn as a far superior version of a goalkeeper, but I can imagine there are other posters with their own views. Not once will I say my view on Martyn is 100% the right one. I don't live for the feedback from controversial posts.

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31 Dec 2020 17:48:11
Axe you comment on Bermondsey twsisted narrative was personal and can not be seen as anything else that is fine but stand by it and calm it what it is

As for debate yes I think I’m 100% right so educate me tell me where I am wrong as said I’m goby ion here but I do listen and willing to say when wrong

As for lukic I agree matyn was by far the better keeper but lukic was my boyhood hero but I do agree with you and see your point.

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31 Dec 2020 18:13:30
Bermo, thank you for that last point. Appreciate it

I definitely understand the boyhood hero rose tinted glasses as mine is Tony Currie. Didn't stay long but he was the first one I really watched once I had got in to football. I still had Peter Lorimer, Eddie Gray and Paul Madeley to idolise but TC was my hero

We can challenge each others views in the New Year but for now Happy New Year.

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31 Dec 2020 19:42:40
Happy new year mate and to all others Tony currie was my step dads hero sadly I haven’t seen much of him but my all time favs are gray whoninthinkbwas every bit as good as best on his day and Lorimer would be my all time greatest over bremner just

Happy new year mate.

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31 Dec 2020 20:20:15
See VillaDave, me and Bermo have totally different view points, we can bang on at each other all year, but at the end of the day we know there is respect and banter is just that. banter

If you come on to our site you have to deal with our hard banter

See you all next year guys.

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31 Dec 2020 20:24:36
Berm, on this site you have previously called KP, Carp and Pony. Also said he would never make the England team, something you were proved wrong on. But hey you say you are 100% right, to me this doesn't prove anything other than its just your opinion .

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31 Dec 2020 21:59:31
Happy New Year Mezzer, we are all just opinions mucka, thank god we are not all the same one. That would be no fun.

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30 Dec 2020 21:07:40
Did anyone hear the BBC continuity announcer on Tuesday evening who introduced Match of the Day by saying words similar to:

"And now on BBC1, Match of the Day featuring my team, The Mighty Leeds United".

I am sure that will be the last we will hear from him, the BBC don't want to be seen as biased!

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30 Dec 2020 22:33:51
I did my mrs told me to rewind it she thought I was joking.

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30 Dec 2020 22:36:26
Yeah heard that don’t know who it was though.

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30 Dec 2020 23:51:41
"Let's see how your team got on, including my mighty Leeds"
Got out of bed to check on my recordings when I read your post prem! Don't know who he is but sounds a bit Lancashirie to me.
Good lad though.

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31 Dec 2020 00:11:59
Haha love it and PLAB when have the BBC not been Ok with bias against us?
Maybe now the street no longer has a one way sign.

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31 Dec 2020 09:09:54
I heard it too, made me laugh, but when you think there are lots of leeds fans these days.

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30 Dec 2020 18:44:25
I see that Jack Clarke might be at Coventry for a while Interesting.

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30 Dec 2020 19:06:44
Where would he be in his development if he had stayed at leeds?

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30 Dec 2020 19:44:50
Be at Barnsley by now.

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30 Dec 2020 20:09:29
Gutted about Jack proper exciting player who took on full backs and got fans off there seats . can’t believe he never kicked on.

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30 Dec 2020 20:27:46
His agent bought new car new house I suppose 🤔🤔, sometimes that's more important in players eyes . Shame really.

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30 Dec 2020 20:50:46
JC was never the same after that mystery challenge. Feel sorry for the kad as he had loads of potential.

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30 Dec 2020 21:15:25
Change my reply above from the words challenge to challenge and kad to lad. Too much leftover Xmas cheer me thinks 👍🏻🍺🥃.

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30 Dec 2020 21:17:20
I've heard no one at Tottenham speaks to him. That's why he's being sent there. 😜.

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30 Dec 2020 21:50:21
Thanks ed 😉.

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31 Dec 2020 08:21:11
Did you mean challenge Lucas? I agree.

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31 Dec 2020 09:12:06
Alf, the Ed's are being up to their old tricks. I typed mystery 'challenge' but the changed it to mystery 'challenge'. They must have been bored without me for entertainment over these past 2 years!

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know what that is Lucas, it is being changed by the filters, not sure why. I know certain words relating to the pandemic have to be changed or the advertisers will not pay up, as I have to be careful which words I use when writing articles. It could be one of those? Though I don't know what it could be or why the word challenge is the one it is changed to.}

31 Dec 2020 10:07:55
OK then, thanks for the clarification. Instead of challenge could I put injury, condition or cocksucking?

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{Ed001's Note - er. I guess if you wanted.}

31 Dec 2020 13:25:20
Mystery cocksucking. you got my attention.

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30 Dec 2020 18:09:26
I wonder how much our heavy pitch is affecting our home form/ results?
Last night at West brom on what seemed like a cracking pitch we played some of our best football of the season!
Maybe Spurs new ground will suit our game!
Mind you it didn't help at old Trafford!

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30 Dec 2020 18:48:26
Has it rained more in Leeds than anywhere else or have we over watered?
Dont ever really recall any recent drainage issues at ER.

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30 Dec 2020 21:32:55
Big drainage issues! The groundsmen wanted to relay pitch in the summer but no time to do the work!

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30 Dec 2020 23:07:13
I hear it is because the football is so good eve the rain don’t want to leave and miss it.

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30 Dec 2020 17:44:46
Evening all, I'm back and in good health again.

Maybe I'm a bit late to jump onto this one, if Karen Carney can't take as good as she gives then she should keep quiet. Along with all those people defending her as well, they can shut the flip up too.

Do they think if a man, someone who is not such a likeable character maybe, eg Piers Morgan, said what Karen said, Andrea said what he said in reply, then there would be such an uproar? No, there wouldn't have been. It's because she's a woman who said a daft comment without thinking it through first, she can expect people on this occasion our great owner to come out and defend our Leeds United. Now if that's not 'reverse sexism' I don't know what is, another example of this soft nation and why I'm often fed up with the way we are losing our freedom of speech.

Rant over, let's have a heated debate!

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30 Dec 2020 18:05:26
Glad to see you back Chief.
Agree 100%.
Radz, didn't say anything sexist whatsoever. Didn't say anything personal, basically said 'nope you are wrong'.
Load of fuss over nothing in the PC mad world.

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30 Dec 2020 18:06:36
Isn't this a world ( well country) where we can't discriminate on the grounds of gender, well she got treated just like anyone other ignoramus so what's all the fuss about?

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30 Dec 2020 18:27:37
Karen Carney stepped over the line in my opinion Lucas, there’s pitching a bit of banter like say, Gobby Abongahor who irritates me immensely as a trashy philistine so called football pundit. As you might of guessed already I don’t have much of a opinion of most football pundits.
These parasites should think before they open their mouths, after all their pathetic bilge is being transmitted over the airwaves to many people and Radz is right in saying it is completely offensive to everyone at Leeds United football club. I imagine some of these toilet traders are just trying to get noticed more by the public by making these outrageous comments.
Rant over.
Lucas welcome back and glad to hear you’re in good health son.

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30 Dec 2020 18:45:43
mate glad you are back and well.

what she said was slightly ill informed and not very well explained. while I and most fans can see an element of sense to what she was saying she didn't say it well. as for rads fair play to the bloke, a professional who was paid to speak said something in the public domain that another professional (rads) disagreed with and defended it in the public domain

it shouldn't be about sex race or anything other than the point made and fair play to rads and a few others who jumped on her

they all read paper, stats etc from the producers and make there opinions from that. its why half of them chat s''t most of the time.

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31 Dec 2020 00:54:14
Even Rio has had his say, what a surprise.

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31 Dec 2020 09:17:16
She obviously did her homework prior to her comments.
Pre lockdown we won 5 in a row then we were hit with the
"Carney Promotion Break"
1st game back we lost to Cardiff.
Enough said!

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30 Dec 2020 15:38:18
Extended rest period for Spurs with today’s game with Fulham being cancelled, hopefully, Bubs will drop murderball from this week’s preparations.

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30 Dec 2020 13:43:15
I wonder if Bielsa has his favourites and sees their performances through rose coloured glasses. He said, after the game, that Dallas didn't make any errors. Whilst not noting his every action I noticed at least six misplaced passes - one potentially serious, and two unnecessary fouls in areas we didn't want them. It didn't make his performance bad but it wasn't mistake free.

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30 Dec 2020 14:34:58
Not to the media he won’t put them.

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30 Dec 2020 14:50:43
Your just knick picking now hess deliberately looking for faults 😆😆.

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30 Dec 2020 18:48:53
dallas was motm for me but of course no one is flawless. like others I think this was a comment for the media. but yes I do wonder if belisa like most have a few pet favs, Cooper and harrision are another two for me. although the latter has put in some blinding displays but also some very under par performances yet not been taken off

all managers do it, although I don't remember srgt having any he was quite ruthless when he needed to be.

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31 Dec 2020 02:03:13
Agree Hess.

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30 Dec 2020 12:20:41
“TV football punditry is 50% presentation, 50% experience and 50% informed logical analysis”.

In other words. am not surprised we get all sorts of reviews by the pundits. they haven’t the ability to pigeon hole this creative force of nature called Leeds and the mighty wizardry of Bielsa.

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30 Dec 2020 13:30:10
They all work from a script and follow the same opinion you get a few exceptions but as a rule they know nothing.

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30 Dec 2020 14:34:09
I prefer the likes of Ray Parlour who do it for a bit of fun, I’d rather listen to someone not taking him or herself to seriously on the radio or tv, rather someone rattling out the same old garbage like the previous cretinous pundit did. There’re very few pundits who know what that are talking about and express it articulately.
Berm’s right they all follow the same script with the same opinions like, ”all Bielsa’s teams tire towards the end of the season. ”! How boring and totally overused opinion is that?

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30 Dec 2020 11:36:36
One of the (many) things I noticed about WBA is lack of character, and characters. They probably enter the field thinking that, probably, they will lose and giving away a freakish goal early doors only confirms what they are all thinking. They then have nobody to regroup them, take a deep breath, and go again.
Very early on, heads went down and a collective acceptance of their fate overtook them.
Until they get a couple of never say die, muck and bullets players I despair of their future.

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30 Dec 2020 12:17:01
Let’s hope not leodis.
Let’s see Sam sink.
Liked wba playing style in the championship. Good to watch. Sam will kill that.
Although he will prob spend about $50 mill next week.

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30 Dec 2020 12:34:49
Yes it was noticable how Gallagher was just about the only one putting in a shift for them in the 2nd half.
Don't know if that effort level was the norm under Bilic or is a reaction to his sacking.

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30 Dec 2020 13:31:49
That’s one thing that has to be said about us we have been ripped apart, Sunday league defending but showed real character and fight and belief in what we do, paying good football is nice but the fight and spirit we have is priceless.

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30 Dec 2020 13:47:18
May be sam's bonus could be carried forward to keep them in the championship next season.

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30 Dec 2020 14:33:15
On the subject of character. in the WBA team in this case, I always thought Barkley was a leader when he was with us. Always talking to his team mates, always gesturing to positions he wanted them to be taking up, and always playing the game with a smile on his face.
I am not saying he is a Bielsa players, or that he could do a job for us but he did keep Cooper out of the team when he was on loan, and wear the captains armband, and he never went route 1 when he got the ball. Nowhere an I saying he is better than Koch or Llorente but as an improvement on Beradi I still feel he could offer something. he ain't going to lose many headers either in those Burnleyesque games.

Also, as mentioned, Gallagher looked a good player. Didn't we look to loan him at the beginning of the season? If so I can see why. He has the lungs of our own Shackleton. However I am glad we didn't pick him up as that would have meant less opportunities for Shackleton to progress.

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30 Dec 2020 15:10:34
Why do u think Big Sam wants a circuit break?
No outball last night, never this season have I seen our defence so comfortable, even last season a lot pressed more than that.

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30 Dec 2020 18:50:55
again to be fair to big sam his comments in the paper were spot on and if I was there manager I would want a circuit break to fix the team and spend some proper money getting players Iin.

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30 Dec 2020 08:32:00
Klich has a knock to his thigh but it’s not certain how severe it is. Hope he is ok for the Spurs game.

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30 Dec 2020 10:13:41
Think there is a ready made replacement in baby shacks though Alf, and given Klich’s most recent form a rest would do him good and actually lift the energy levels in midfield for the Spurs game.

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30 Dec 2020 10:15:44
Would not hurt Alf to give him a rest for a game or two.

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30 Dec 2020 11:05:08
I agree our best player at start of season but he is blowing out of his a at the moment and a rest won’t hurt and I love baby shacks to do a good job.

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30 Dec 2020 08:44:31
At half time I remembered that game v PNE where we were 4-0 up at half time but lost 6-4. Thankfully. WBA are no PNE.

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30 Dec 2020 09:00:40
It took 4 to settle me.
Although 1 was prob enough.

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30 Dec 2020 09:35:51
4 1 to be exact.

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Review Of The Day 30th December 2020

30 Dec 2020 07:39:19
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 30th December 2020

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30 Dec 2020 06:26:23
Didn't see fat Sam smile all game? No class. You'd think when being taught how to play football you should show some appreciation. Miserable git.
How good were we 👍
But they were absolutely woeful. Worst team I've seen this year.
Hats off to the team tonight.
Great defending against burnley and wba after the manc game. Showed real character in both last two games.
So much good to admire.
Individuals. Aliosk Ralph Phillips struik harrison Dallas and Rodrigo.
Thought goalkeeper looked better catching the ball but still loses his head with punches and passes sometimes.
Good to see other players chipping in with goals and well taken good goals.
Does Bamford need dropping. Bit of a dry spell for him.
The versatility of the players is amazing. On more than a few occasions I thought why as he doing there only to see another player had automatically covered. Players roaming all over the pitch hard to play against.
Fantastic points tally so far.
Be a good measure against Spurs. Need to be tight. Son worries me.
I must admit I didn't really relax until the fourth goal tonight.
Does anybody know what biesla said to mc il Roy at the end.
Finally. Ha ha ha ha ha ha big Sam. I don't think your team like you like most of us. They really didn't even try tonight. Top manager.
Are one finger emojis allowed ed?

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30 Dec 2020 08:21:10
Dry spell of one game for Bamford. Serious.

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30 Dec 2020 08:33:16
Aus Sammy Lee at the end, not the person you mentioned.

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30 Dec 2020 09:14:47
Re Sammy Lee Aus, He spent 3 years playing in Spain so maybe Bielsa came across him then! Would be funny if he thought he was the manager 😂.

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30 Dec 2020 10:07:31
You bit Alf lol.
Thanks George for the correction. They look the same.

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30 Dec 2020 10:18:04
Nah Dsw, he shook hands with big ham 1st, I think Lee impressed with his constant coaching throughout game on touchline,

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30 Dec 2020 11:22:18
leeds have conceded 3 or more goals on a large number of occasions this season, in a number of games we have been carved open and looked both hopeless and gutless. yes belisa is god and the greatest manager ever

belisa been at club three years, mostly his players, spent over 100 million

big sam loses one game after a great point in what must of been a exhausting game at liverpool

sam been there less than 14 days, with a sub standard squad who has spent very little

yet big sam is useless, should retire and has no place in footballl

if you lot can not see the how dumb, narrow minded and stupid these comments are then there is no point even trying to debate anything with you lot

for the record I am delighted that we went two games against big organised teams and kept two clean sheets, our defending of corners is sunday league standard however last two games we have been organised and defended well (partly because the manager couldn't pick Cooper like he wanted to so there is an element of luck over judgement in this) but still last two games I have been delighted

but some of the comments on my views, big sam and football in general and quite frankly in poor taste and so biased it is a joke

and I twist things to my narrative. yeah right.

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30 Dec 2020 11:57:17
Bermo, me finks it's not a PERSONAL thing, it's the thought that people like Allardyce, Pardew, Warnock, Pulis, etc some people reckon they still have a place in modern day football

Just like the football shirts from early 90,s the 1,s you could use for cover in glastonbury 😂😂 . Well they are finished with . The park the bus, hoof the ball is mind numbingly boring and no supporter wants their club to adopt that style of play

Don't be reading others comment on a personal front, well certainly not mine anyway .

People are commenting on opinions here, yes we all have / entitled to 1, so that's why we all love this group because if we all agreed it would be boring and no point putting up counter view points

Bermo you are 1 of the main posters on here so we need lads like you to lost regularly to keep the interest alive

Cheer up pal, Leeds are doing ok and that's 1 view we all share on here, ALAW 💪👍.

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30 Dec 2020 12:22:41
He took praise for Liverpool draw. Immediate effect and all that crap. So. Guess what. Got found out in game two.
My opinion. Don’t like him. He is a pig ignorant and talentless.
Don’t care what you think bermo. Just like you don’t care what I think.
Both still able to air our opinion though.

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30 Dec 2020 12:58:29
Berm why are posters opinions biased or in bad taste perhaps connected with Sam Allardyce? There’s nothing meant personal to you. There are no footballing oracles here, no who is right or wrong. Just people with their own personal opinions about football. Except Whackaday and VD, but a the end of the day who’s to say they are wrong. So long as folks don’t get judgmental and personal in a nasty way then for me it’s fine.

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30 Dec 2020 13:41:53
Mr Bielsa know s is onions better work rate is everything and WBA couldn't keep up can you imagine next season with 4 more quality players in all working hard tho it's only way with the boss man onto spurs big MOT boys and all the best.

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30 Dec 2020 13:38:52
Maybe find it hard not to take some of it person

I. e let’s see how Bermo twist this to his personal narrative.

My personal view is football will never change and they still have a place

Let’s be honest the biggest flop this year is city. they have underachieved more than anyone

Wilde has done amazing for three years, Burnley do well year after year. Big sam is in a hard place but let’s see what he does

I think it is football snobbery, if pep was Pulis he would of been sacked this year for job at city this year but we can’t slate pep. Belisa top three managers in the world according to experts yet Wilde did wonders last year and got nothing

Everyone entitled to view but personally I hate the snobbery results are results and I love that old way,

That said last two games have been perfect for me because we got the basic rights then I appreciate our amazing style

Next step is not getting ripped apart by quick counter teams. If we do well again spurs it will be another huge step in the right direction.

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30 Dec 2020 14:48:44
Bermo

I said the comment about "your personal narrative" and I stand by it. If you find it hard to take comments from other posters then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to give us all your "told you so" garbage when we lose, and perish the thought, lose badly.

Got news for you, most posters on here know we are going to lose games in the PL, and not one of us claims to be an oracle.

Also some more news, we all see the game differently even when watching the same television picture. So you telling us all how crap an individual is just isn't relevant to most of us. We don't see the game like you do.

I am loving the fact that your now saying Leeds are doing well when only 2 weeks ago you were the rally call for Biesla's style of football won't work in the PL.

Its almost as if you can't ever just say something positive, there is a need in you to also give a controversial comment so any feedback shows your posts are being read. Be satisfied in the knowledge I do read all your posts as do most others. The non-controversial bits are insightful.

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30 Dec 2020 18:03:29
Of course we will lose, everyone knows that

My problem with belisa is losing the same way and having the same problems. My biggest question is . as a stubborn man will he learn and apadt

For three years he has picked cooper. who ain’t good enough, after three years we still defend set plays like a Sunday league team, after three years will still struggle against teams who sit back and against teams who counter. After his whole career burn out with small squad still seems a problem. For all his greatness comes huge problems also

I don’t mind losing to Leicester Man Utd etc although palace loss hurt. what I mind is the silly set plays, and conceding four plus goals with such ease against any team with pace

So the loss I can take but when I know how we will lose before kick off and it happens I get very angry. This is then compounded when everyone acts like belisa is a god and anyone who raises any questions of comments Is treated like an idiot. which I am many things but an idiot is not one of them

That said last two games have been blinding. I have been first to say that. Our victory against burley impressed me more than the wins against villa or Newcastle due to the nature of it. we beat one of our biggest problems. set plays. Some jump on my comments yet ignore my other comments which is what mps do and it does my nut in

So very impressed with last two games. we start defending set plays like Sunday league team I will moan again . if we play spurs and they cut through us like hot knife through butter with kp being left for dust and out of place of goals I will moan again

I don’t mind losing but nature of it will get me angry. so belisa don’t make me right. I’d love nothing more than to say I was wrong like in last two games.

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30 Dec 2020 18:24:14
Football as they say is a game of opinions. if people say that big Sam is useless, then they should be labelled dumb, narrow minded and stupid. But if you should say Leeds player Kelvin Philips is useless then we'll you are the orifice, sorry oricle.

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30 Dec 2020 20:16:27
I say Phillips is amazing at passing, his vision and execution of a long pass is devinistating and second to none other than maybe de Byrne

I also say his positioning is often off, I say his chronic lack of pace costs us goals

Now sorry but I am 100% right

Against Everton he showed his class of like Everton you let him play he will rip you apart

However against Fulham and Man Utd ect he also proved me right against Fulham he was at fault for two goals against Man Utd you could say he was at fault for all four goals., due to lack of pace

So to say useless is dumb. to say what I have said for years is hard today anything other than spot on and insightful.

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30 Dec 2020 20:36:13
Bermo, I also agree with your Liam comment he's definitely the weak link now, sentiment needs to be set aside now, and on current trajectory Liam could find himself CH num 4 soon, because with game time pascal hopefully will grow into a reliable option for us .

That being said luke's done a stellar job this season everywhere he's has been asked, he's my player of season so far, love luke and his no frills crap, a solid player and seemingly a top man to boot .

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30 Dec 2020 21:03:32
Could not agree more, Luke is my favourite Leeds player by a mile love everything about him. plus he looks like a girl I went to school with.

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30 Dec 2020 06:14:52
Well done 👏💛💙 Andrea for sticking up for us. You're a man of principles. Benjamin White take a bow for your comic 😂😂😂 tweet in response. You're a great guy. Jeff Stelling with his tweet though should take most of the plaudits something along lines of yes they were really struggling with 5 consecutive wins before the break. If George recalls correctly those 5 wins came with 5 clean sheets too. Suggestion for Andrea. Invite Jeff and Ben over for afternoon tea to say thanks. 💛💙.

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30 Dec 2020 06:39:40
George, male or female pundit, it’s just another retired pro making insignificant opinions and getting paid for for it which is concerning! I believe there are far to many ex pro pundits in the football media today, spouting their mindless chit chat. They should be putting something more significant back into football than this, it’s an easy buck is all.

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30 Dec 2020 07:03:14
10 points is a lot to win a league by.
It’s not fair or even sensible to make such a stupid ill informed comment.
She is entitled to her opinion but she should expect a back lash when it’s a stupid one.
She is really showing a lack of understanding of the game.
And a lack of brain matter too.

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30 Dec 2020 09:16:53
JFH not that great either! Much prefer Beckford doing analysis!

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30 Dec 2020 09:48:36
Makes me laugh now with those trash like comments made by Karen Carney, that she shouldn’t be criticized because it’s sexist! Really! .
All those powder puff, snowflake, so called righteous do gooders who are saying this are blight to humanity.
I give up!

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30 Dec 2020 09:48:53
Excellent spot on posts by George, OP, Aus and DSW.

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30 Dec 2020 10:21:41
Rio also, very quick to chastise Radz, but said nowt about her idiotic comment .

Wonder if she commented on men commiting adultery would Rio agree with that 1 also.

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30 Dec 2020 11:29:26
She should shut up.
I used to say to my ex. If you don’t know what you’re talking about it just makes you look stupid.
She talked a lot.

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30 Dec 2020 06:07:39
Very pleased with the result and with how we played. But let’s remember this was a poor team that probably ran its legs off against Liverpool and is coached by a insignificant out of date manager. It’s not a surprise he’s the first to be calling a halt to the season due to the the virus situation worsening. He may have a point, but at the same time he knows how much football has advanced from his antiquated footballing methods and is completely out of his depth.
I know Berm rates Allardyce but he really belongs in the retirement home of football, for good.
If football is not suspended soon which we all hope I’m sure, then it’s our next game against Spurs will for me be the interesting challenge. Jose who I have always admired as a coach with all of his successes in the past, but of late seems to have fallen behind, perhaps due to his coaching methods now being a little obsolete?
Im not entirely convinced with what he is doing with this very talented Spurs team and I can favour us getting a result out of this game.
Very excited for the Mourinho vs Bielsa, battle of the superior football minds.

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30 Dec 2020 06:25:41
OP I believe I'm correct in saying Mourinho has never faced a Leeds team. Will be the first such match ever. Reasoning? He was appointed manager of Chelsea in summer of 2004 by which time we were already relegated to the Championship. When we faced ManU in the cup in 2010, Fergie was still their coach. When we lost to Chelsea in the cup late 2012, Mourinho had long departed Chelsea but later rejoined them the following year. Don't know whether Marcelo has ever faced off against Jose but what I can confidently say is Leeds has never faced him. That will change 40 hours into 2021.

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30 Dec 2020 03:51:57
5-0 shows how far we’ve come from same fixture last season.

Worried about Meslier, though. Great shot stopper but his head were all over the shop today.

Pleased to see Alioski on form. Raphinha’s quality showing through. Good game for Pascal. Aylin’s and Philips were solid. Rodrigo can turn a square defender like he were a sixpence. Harrison had a cracker. Dallas’s versatility has gone up two thre levels. Klich not on a rich vein but good enough. netting it out . good result against a knack weed team. but someone needs to really work with Meslier. goalieing is 50% mental. we could lose that talented young man’s head if we’re not careful.

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30 Dec 2020 00:44:52
What a way to sign off 2020, been a tough year but we got back to the premiership and acquitted ourselves well so far.
All the best banter boys for 2021 and hope Lufc can kick on, loved watching this team for the past few seasons under beilsa, he has been amazing.
Top performance tonight against a poor side but took care of business, bring on Spurs and a Jan transfer window.

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30 Dec 2020 00:23:39
2 wins and the table looks different again! Where's all the "Bielsa" out, and "Allardyce" for Leeds brigade gone? 😁.

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30 Dec 2020 06:30:09
Farsley That was just the Berm.

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30 Dec 2020 07:42:27
Gone to speak with uncle?

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30 Dec 2020 09:00:45
And Aus.

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30 Dec 2020 09:01:50
And Hess.

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30 Dec 2020 00:08:26
Did you listen to the after match comments from Karen "Adam's family" Carney. Where do they dig em up from! So we only got promotion because of the virus and we'll drop off the planet for the final 3rd of the season, blah, blah, blah. Who is she?

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30 Dec 2020 06:05:10
Farsley Former women's pro.

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30 Dec 2020 07:44:44
Former Birmingham ladies player, think she went the same school as agbonlahour!

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