Leeds Banter Archive October 30 2015

 

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30 Oct 2015 22:27:47
Mixed emotions at the minute. Is this all hot air? If the 'consortium' don't have some serious funds then what do we do to bring in new players and pay the wages? Raising money to buy is one thing and actually running it effectively is another - we still don't own ER! So tickets go to rent. I don't pretend to know all the details but we still have GFH taking their cut - when their is cash to take. If there is no money to run the club then MC will utilise this to highlight he is the only one who can payroll us, keep GFH at bay and give us a fighting chance of being raised from the ashes - I will wait and watch it unfold - we need to be careful otherwise we won't have a club at all. Be careful what you wish for.

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31 Oct 2015 00:38:33
This is an astute evaluation. I view it as a lose-lose. We need Cellinos money but not his ego maniac running of the club.

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31 Oct 2015 07:20:58
You can't blame Cellino for that performance. He has spent a bit on the team and bought players who said they could play football! Alright his choice of coach ain't great but UWE was a reasonable pedigree and he turned out bollocks too!

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30 Oct 2015 21:59:08
Why is everyone so keen for red bull? their other teams aren't exactly Real Madrid?!

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31 Oct 2015 05:27:07
They aren't exactly Tranmere Rovers either which is where we could end up in 2 years.

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30 Oct 2015 21:45:16
I'm depressed. At the start of the season things were looking up- new, better quality players coming in with overpaid inferior ones going out, Pearson adding football business nous and steadying the good ship Leeds, and decent confident football on the pitch. 3 months later, Pearson gone, results awful, and a team of strangers running around like headless chickens. I'm depressed.

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31 Oct 2015 07:21:44
Join the 50,000 of us mate.

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30 Oct 2015 21:20:06
Well Cellino is going, unless Leeds Fan Club have some major backers looks like owners with empty pockets again. Last time I heard the LFC had amassed the grand sum of £500,000, not enough to buy a decent player. Cellino will want the money back he has invested. Expect half the squad to go in jan, which will probably be a good thing but will we have money to buy. Hope rumours were right that they have been in regular talks with red bull or we will end up with another consortium. Hope the price of season tickets go down when we hit league one.

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30 Oct 2015 20:46:21
What seems a good idea of selling to fans this will only mean years of mediocrity and no real ambition, yes we probably be stable but never will we be winners challenging for champions league places again and whilst even premier league seems so far away only a rich owner or company with football knowledge and sound minds will ever put us where we belong, if massimo wants to sell surely with his contacts we can sell to someone else, good intentions won't get us there.

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30 Oct 2015 21:26:08
Think Cellino was hurt by the chanting and is saying if the fans want to run the club let them run it, he's italian short fuse and that. He does not want to sell but after the abuse he and his family have took he will not do us any favours, he will not want a profit but will want his money back, can FLC give him that.

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31 Oct 2015 09:58:42
Cellino knows that LFU don't have the money to buy him out. Is this just his way of saying TINA. Unless someone with a huge amount of money is willing to come in and clear the debt we owe to GFH, buy the ground, give Bach Cellino his money back and invest in the squad. We'll carry on as we are. Anyone got a spare £80 million?

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30 Oct 2015 20:31:18
I realise emotions are running high at present. And if MC is to leave us (am concerned about the fans buyout, although would buy shares if it happened) a lot of people will say good riddance.

However, ever since MC joined in the main the entire banter and rumours pages have been football related issues. Yes the manager situation has been farcical, but at the same time MC has moved his family to Yorkshire had put his own money where his mouth was (Don't mention Elland Road buy back) but we have all very quickly forgotten weekly stories about us going back into administration or losing million every month, or creditors refusing to lay pitches at TA.

The queue for other suitable buyers didn't exactly stretch very far, and who other than crazy MC would accept a deal that involved the GFH leaches.

Not saying he hasn't done many things badly, but without him, can we be certain we would still be running to criticise him?

Just a personal view, I'm Leeds till I die, so yes I will rant and moan and add to sites like this whether it's championship, Premier or Yorkshire Tea Conference North!

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30 Oct 2015 21:30:28
Got to say everyone, including media keep going back to the managers he sacked, the fans wanted rid of three of them maybe if fans were not chanting for them to get sacked he may have give them a bit more time.

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30 Oct 2015 20:07:40
Anyone else just wish we were a boring club for a few years? maybe an Ipswich type? just a few years of consistency and dependability.

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30 Oct 2015 20:50:56
Bang on Ben. But that will never happen with constant changing of manager.

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31 Oct 2015 00:41:38
It's not the changing of manager. It's the club we all support, unfortunately while blessed with excitement and passion we were cursed with endless drama. Leeds will never be a boring team.

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30 Oct 2015 20:02:23
Crikey never a dull day supporting Leeds I think in essence selling to Leeds Fans Utd is a good idea but they have to be backed by individuals (s) with four things the financial backing to buy the club, have the money to inject to buy the ground back. invest in players and lastly must have a person (s) who can run a football club effectively, it has proved recently then when you have a person like Pearson in charge things started to look more proseprous. Without those the club could go downhill even more quickly than it has been lately. I dearly hope this could be a turning point for the better the fans truly deserve it.

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30 Oct 2015 21:33:57
Hope it is but can't see any positives in selling to LFC unless they have one major backer.

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30 Oct 2015 19:48:48
Could this be a smoke screen for someone already mentioned to take over?

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30 Oct 2015 19:41:25
Sad fact is there is no where to hide now players, owners etc but one thing is for sure they don't think playing for the famous white shirt is that important anymore, I'm nt sure even the home grown players really understand the honour of wearing that badge, perhaps it's our fault as the best fans in the world expecting to much for years and being to often disappointed I dnt care if we lose every game as long as I see passion and die for the shirt attitude but it's saddens me a fan of 50 odd years, that this once great club has fallen so low in other people's eyes no fear factor just laughing stock that's my fellow die hardship cuts much deeper than losing! Mot till the world stops!

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30 Oct 2015 21:02:44
Had a few now Posh but you could say the same about all clubs. Do any modern day players really really care say like Revies boys? Dunno for sure. Personally I believe most of our lads do care but have little leadership on and off pitch. Lots are young lads and need guidance. Jesus our best player is 18 yrs old. Wheres a Strachan or a Bremner to guide these players on the pitch? Need more experience. I've been saying it for ages but MC will not make that very important buy which we need. He only thinks of future profit on any player he buys, hence he never buys a player with experience cause of sell on value.

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30 Oct 2015 22:59:19
Maybe right corky still sad that it come to this?

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30 Oct 2015 19:38:06
Sell to the fans?
Please NO!
How on earth would this be a good idea?

I that happens it will be the end of Leeds!

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30 Oct 2015 19:23:14
Start od season lots said get Joe Barton. Wasn't sure then but he is exactly the player we need right now. Badly need experience in midfield.

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30 Oct 2015 18:05:46
Once we lose next game I believe there will be one more manager left for Cellino to eat. Himself! I can see him selling by Easter.

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30 Oct 2015 18:03:55
Blackburn have now won more games at Elland Rd since March than us, how embarrassing is that, as bad as Celllino's management is the players are professionals and get paid a decent amount of money on that basis, it's about desire, passion, respect for the paying public, and overall pulling on the shirt, they honestly need counselling on how the other half live.
I like many other graft day in and out to support my family and to afford to watch Leeds play, I could choose not to but my passion for the club is beyond cost, they all seriously need a good kick up the backside.

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30 Oct 2015 18:18:42
Andy I understand where you're coming from but I don't believe the players go onto piych with the intention of not trying, although it does look that way sometimes. Too many managers is killing our club. End of. The players don't know whether they are coming or going.

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30 Oct 2015 17:05:11
Thing is who really would want to buy us at the moment. i'm talking people who could actually really take us foreard.

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30 Oct 2015 17:51:41
I think there'll be a couple buyers sniffing. The real point is for what price? Can't see top money being discussed as we look weaker than when Cellino took over and are relegation fodder who haven't won at home for almost the length of a domestic season. Cellino may have to take a loss but will his ego permit this?

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30 Oct 2015 18:21:23
Agree, but would a large organisation with plenty of money want to have us?

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30 Oct 2015 14:04:56
Omg. I taped it. And just watched it. Didn't know result
Disgraceful rubbush
Wtf
Trying to think of players I'd give more than 3 out of 10
Er
Berradi. Best player this year so far maybe 6
Byram 4
Cook 4
Dallas 3.5. For effort
Rest. Absolute rubbush. Can not believe that is Leeds United
Ant. Wood. Absolute rubbush. We are in deep poo

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30 Oct 2015 17:55:48
We need a clearout starting with the owner.

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30 Oct 2015 20:58:53
Byram 4 are u serious . watch the tape again -4 more like.

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30 Oct 2015 16:36:09
Those who thought 4-3-3 was the problem need to think again. Overrun in midfield. They cut through our midfield way too easy. Need to get Erwin back and go 4-3-3 imo.

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30 Oct 2015 17:37:02
Overrun in midfield so you want to drop a midfielder and go 433? That's a worldbeater right there.

The problem is twofold. Insufficient quality on park. Devoid of heart and passion to play for LUFC.

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30 Oct 2015 18:09:35
Talking to Allan Clarke he said systems don't win football matches players do and he's right you rather have better players than the opposition or you don't.

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30 Oct 2015 18:11:33
George mate I don't think you understand the what 433 works. Three in the centre of midfield and two wide players supporting attack and tracking back whrn defending. We arecway too open in midfield with just 2 in the centre. that's the way I see it anyway. Cook and Ady holding with Mowatt supporting the striker when opportunity is there. We need to tighten up pronto.

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30 Oct 2015 22:07:18
Know all about 433. What you describe is actually 451. If it is 433, then presumably our forward 3 have bagged a few. Byram, Dallas, Buckley and Botaka have scored how many between them? It rhymes with Nero. Antenucci and Wood are our best hope. 442 is best for this team.

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30 Oct 2015 15:33:33
Continuing from my previous rant and must say that I don't think Wood had a shot at goal and Antennuci had only one effort, I bet Erwin must be wishing his loan spell was over so he can return to Elland Road and at last show us what he is all about.

It's quite clear the the partnership of Murphy and Adeyemi does not work. Neither knows what to do in a crisis and end up occupying each other's space. Steve Evens cannot be blamed for that debacle last night and now needs to get out there in the next few days and try and find an experienced goalkeeper, central defender and a midfielder with a bit of guts about him whose not afraid to get stuck in.

I realise that this is asking the impossible of the man but if he doesn't get someone in then the 19,666 who turned up last night will drift away in their droves and I could quite easily be one of them.

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30 Oct 2015 17:38:30
A thousand of them were Blackburn fans. We could soon get attendances in the high 4 digits.

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30 Oct 2015 18:53:19
George, Blackburn sold only 500 tickets. Night match on TV, expect quite a few long distance Leeds fans gave it a miss. Though I agree home crowds will fall, I'm doing more away games this season, instead of home. A lot of the away games closer for me.

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30 Oct 2015 15:20:47
My normal match day preparation involves thinking about the probable team selection, how the game might go and the possible result. This Thursday this was not the case I couldn't muster any enthusiasm about the match even when walking to the ground that match day feeling was missing and then the reason why hit me after 17 seconds of the start an impending disaster was about to happen.

What occurred was a total shambles and in all my 52 years of supporting this once great club imploded before my very eyes. I think this was the worst of the worst games I have ever witnessed and we now have the record of conceding the earliest goal in the championship, one which I doubt will ever be beaten.

Then to concede again 6minutes later allowing Rhodes to score his usual goal against us was unforgivable. On both occasions I could not blame Silvestri this time. But the rest of the shower with possibly the exception of Berardi and Cook, must bow their heads in shame they disgraced the proud name of Leeds United.

One person in particular (Bamba) more than all of them, his stupid reaction to a poor referring decision beggered belief and as know cost him a one match suspension having collected 5 yellow cards.

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30 Oct 2015 17:40:37
Bamba has aged. Time to drop. We don't actually have a decent central defender. They all have weaknesses. Some more than others.

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30 Oct 2015 14:26:29
I for one have had enough with the whole debacle! last night I stood and watched 11 grown men wearing the famous white shirt made to look like timid boys! IN THERE OWN BACKYARD!, all the players and staff like to throw around the 'lets make Elland road a fortress' line to the media week in week out yet the only people doing that are the fans! not one player was willing to bust a gut last night, no one wanted to put there foot in, our midfield went missing and our strikers were bullied.
the players love the tag of playing for the 'Famous Leeds United' but that tag was earned by the likes of Bremner, Speed, Batty, etc who week in week out gave the fans full commitment and weren't afraid to get hurt or injured in the process!
its a sorry state of affairs at ER and I do not see it getting any better any time soon unless each player to man can roll up their sleeves and show the paying fans why they deserve to were the famous jersey as at the minute that is not the Leeds united I love that run out onto the pitch each week

rant over!

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30 Oct 2015 17:43:13
The heart and soul of club has gone. You know it's gone when you suspend an Assistant Manager because he is doing well and you fire a woman who did well for us at Academy level and you then don't even know who she is. Cellino is a nut. He needs to sell but to whom?

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30 Oct 2015 13:10:37
There is a lot of posts on YEP suggesting that MC is after the sympathy vote with his latest statement (considering selling) . I however, think he's only a small part of the problem. Yes he sacks managers, but the people he's sacked haven't been getting results. If I fail to do what is expected of me in my job, I will get the sack, and a Championship Manager should be no different. Based on the results they achieved, I would have sacked them too. I wasn’t the only one who called for the head of 'The Hock', and Redders (and a few in between) . I can't think of a single manager under MC that I would have kept. I'll give Evans a chance, but I'm not holding my breath.

MC went on public record and slated Byram. We could argue whether he was right to do it publicly, but in my opinion Byram doesdid consider himself to be the "Big I Am", when he's clearly not. MC was right to bring him down a peg or two (perhaps not in the public eye) . There are a few other jumped-up players in the squad who seem to think they are bigger than the club. To those players I say goodbye, and don't let the door hit your ar*e on the way out. It just puzzles me as to why the players seem to dislike their own club. Talk about “bite the hand that feeds you”. They could ruin their own careers by playing this badly.

With MC’s latest statement about leaving, I’m getting worried. I think it’s a veiled threat (causing the club damage by selling it) . I seriously think we’ll be relegated this season. LUFC is a joke and MC knows it. So back to my original point, I don’t think MC is after sympathy, I think he’s telling us “better the devil you know”!

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30 Oct 2015 14:12:27
I disagree mate
I think McC is sussing out buyers
I would have sacked all the managers so far. All wanders
But I would have hired better. Not the dross he sets up to fail
Sell mate if u want to. I won't cry a tear
Let's get a medically sane certificate for next owner and manager. The lot are currently really good at winking.

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30 Oct 2015 15:06:43
You say hire better, but who would come to mediocre Leeds?
Even with a different owner, you can't see a high quality manager wanting the job.
I remember the advert for milk many years ago, "Accrington Who"? We're the job that nobody wants.

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30 Oct 2015 12:21:21
I don't get it, something is very very wrong, were these not the players who triumphed at Derby and played Fulham off the park 3 short games ago. I mean, I earn £9 an hour as a carer for adults with learning difficulties, I have to work 50+ hours a week to get a decent wage, but its a great job and I give it all. My son is going to Lympstone next tuesday to follow his dream of becoming a Royal Marine, its all he wants to do and wants it passionately. Tough ask but his dream is now in his hands and you can bet he will bust his guts to try and achieve it. Those players need to realise pulling on the shirt does not mean they are going for a sunday morning saunter around the local park. We Leeds, we faithful do not ask the world, you don't have to be Pele. Just go out there and show the same passion commitment and pride we do. I look forward to every match, it makes or breaks my week and right now I am a 1000 piece jigsaw.

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30 Oct 2015 14:45:04
Think you're right vid, too many people backing away from the man in possession instead of closing down and harrying. I think it perhaps is also that no one is brave enough to take some responsibility. Everyone seems scared of having the ball. Perhaps a break to go our way and get a win and confidence will hopefully grow. However I think all we may now have is that hope . Playing in other teams most of these players would probably be tearing up the division.

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30 Oct 2015 14:13:50
Agree mate
Good luck to your son
Leeds are crap.

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30 Oct 2015 12:15:33
Where is Red Bull when you need them!

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30 Oct 2015 14:14:44
It's not funny mate. That performance was bad. Real bad
Conf bad.

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30 Oct 2015 15:25:00
They have wings, they flew off.

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30 Oct 2015 12:14:19
I need to know. Who is the clown that went to Cellino and said "look boss I've found this great player who we need to buy. His name is (insert any one of a number) and he will transform the team. " The conversation probably continued " His agent is waiting in my office. Now don't argue too much with him as he is my sisters lad".

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30 Oct 2015 10:11:01
Well its easy to over react and panic in the heat of the moment, so I thought I'd do a final post (for a while) after a nights sleep.
My considered thought are - PANIC!

Firstly, ignore Steve Evans - he's not part of the problem or the solution. Last night's defeat was not his fault.
Don't doubt he would have the ability to keep a team in the championship - which is now our best case scenario for this season.

Clearly we have far too many players who are not interested in giving their all for this club - and that has been the case under several managers/coaches.

The short term solution can only be that MC stumps up some serious cash for some decent players. There is zero chance that the young stars will stay next season, so some could be sold in January to release cash.

The longer term solution is that MC sells (but we would need a seriously rich purchaser - unlikely), or he digs deeper in his pockets and provides even more cash to get better players. There doesn't seem to be anyone around who can pick out players who would fit into our team anyway.

Regrettably, I don't see any of those outcomes happening, so the most we can hope for is to stay up this season, and next season, and the season after.

50 + years a supporter and the future is looking as bleak as I can remember.

Depressing, and although I'll keep reading, I've lost the will for witty banter. This has stopped being funny.

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30 Oct 2015 10:56:17
Keep posting Speedy, I know how you feel, down, but posters like you are needed for moral, even though there's not a lot we can do to make performances better we need to keep speaking, honestly when I got home last night I could of cried, but today's another day, try and stay positive.

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30 Oct 2015 11:54:29
Speedy, that post is very true and very depressing and unfortunately I'm in the same boat as you. Knowing our luck it will probably capsize. So the question is can you swim pal?!

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30 Oct 2015 12:16:15
Speedy/Andy

When they went 2 up in 5 mins I sort of held my head in my hands but did I think have a weird smile on my face (was smile of pain) everyone around me was bit shocked as it was even worst than normal.

What I don't get is why don't the players want to play for us (if you think that is the case Speedy), I just don't get it, nothing to do with Big steve (can't say fat boy as editors seem to edit that out for some reason, bit to PC? ) so what is there problem.

Can it be that they are not as good as we think? I don't get it really cause you would think it must be better playing for Leeds in terms of size/facilities etc than clubs that get 10- 15 k support and not much away?

Last night I didn't blame anyone but the players, I'm no real fan of MC anymore but if everyone chants against him then you see what happens with other clubs like Newcastle/Blackpool etc it just gets worst.

End of day if no-one comes in with the money then MC has right to keep the club, in the real world nowt we can do about that really, it is the way of the world. I just want my team to win at home in the next 100 years cause at the moment we could go all season not winning.

Anyway off to do some work now, on positive side I can't make the Cardiff game, first one I will miss for a while so we will prob win as I'm not there ha ha.

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30 Oct 2015 14:19:07
I agree grip. It's horrible
I can't think of a positive
Looking forward to the game. Recorded it
Shouting at my missus after 20 seconds. Said
Watch what happens now babe
Wat a ****er I am.

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30 Oct 2015 09:39:23
Abysmal, only way to describe last night. We can't keep blaming the coach or Cellino for performances like that. The players should be ashamed. Expect Bamba to give hie weekly evening post interview and blame it on Cellino getting rid of the canteen cat.
Sylvestri is not that clever but he must despair when he looks at his centre backs, clueless both of them, is Bamba this solid leader we wanted. Need left back, playing Berardi there means we lose the option of Byram on the wing if Botaka out. Midfield devoid of any ideas, apart from Cook, don't know what to do with ball. Wood is not the type of forward we needed, for a big lad he should be getting stuck in pressuring them on and off the ball he dont. Dallas puts the effort in but not what I would call a left winger so need one of those as well. No real game changers on bench, Mowaatt for Murphy is pointless both same. Bring Erwin back if we can he is needed he can play wide left and score goals. Sad thing is most of them are players chosen by the coach Ady, Murphy, Cooper, Bamba, Wood, all lacking. can't help but think if we had persevered with Fabro, Monty and Adryan would we have a more creative team.
My team for next match would be
Sylvestri/ Horton
Byram/Berardi
Berlusci
Cooper
Taylor/Berardi
Cook
Botaka
Sloth
Dallas
Ant
Erwin/ Mulhern
Subs Phillips, Bianchi, Mowat, Bamba Wood.

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30 Oct 2015 11:59:12
Two things BIGE. I did not see the new "back to his best" Mowatt. So I agree sub at best, but I would try to find a place for Phillips other than that, agree with your suggestion.

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30 Oct 2015 12:13:52
we might aswell let sloth have a go 'things can only get better'

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30 Oct 2015 12:53:41
Sorry leodis should have read dallas/phillips.

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30 Oct 2015 13:07:36
Bige, do realise bamba is suspended?

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30 Oct 2015 09:30:19
Every game I have a bet on a Leeds win. I think a safer bet would be that Cook, Mowatt, Byram and Taylor will be playing somewhere else next season.
I thought they were the future of the club but I would be amazed if their agents aren't looking for new clubs for them. They could all get into lower premier league teams on bigger wages. I've been a Leeds fan for a very long time and if I were in their position I'd be off as soon as the opportunity arose.
I really thought Cellino was going to be our Savior but not now.
I'm not feeling that angry or unhappy, just really, really sad.

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30 Oct 2015 09:08:39
The club is rotten from top to bottom and Cellino is to blame. Numerous sackings hardly helps for a good work environment. The players don't look like they want to play. Reward for playing well is to be offered a contract with less money. 2 year plan to get out of this league, we can do it in 1 but it's league 1 we are heading to. Just think if we had spent the money on players instead of paying off ex coaches. Money for lawyers to fight numerous employment tribunals,winding up potions, lawsuits. If Macro and Enterprise insurance take us to court we'll be in administration. If we go down, which after last night is a possibility, then we will be lucky to survive. Where are the Cellino apologist today. TIME TO GO MASSIMO.

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30 Oct 2015 13:29:41
Totally agree Deda. MC has ripped the heart out of our club from the moment he walked through the door. We have no leadership from the top down. We have no stability. I am worried we shall be dragged even lower, league1.

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30 Oct 2015 13:51:18
Right on let's sack Cellino and get a honest truthful owner like Abramovich. don't matter if we end up in league one we can build again. And if these players get 10 grand a week, half a million a year that's way too much for the way they play. Sack them as well and pork pie sack him. Sure poundland would buy us.

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30 Oct 2015 08:55:57
Talk about 'Fortress Elland Rd' it's actually the exact opposite! I genuinely feel the the team are scared to death to play at ER and would rather play on the road where expectations are lower. Am I wrong?

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30 Oct 2015 08:49:57
One of the disappointing aspects of watching Leeds at the moment is that there are 'talisman' players. Players who you can get behind and cheer on individually. Even in recent times in league one even we had Becchio and Beckford; McCormack and Snodgrass. Even the midfield of Howson, Johnson and Kilkenny were of a higher order than the present lot. Whilst they had their limitations and could be frustrating we could always believe that they could come up with something worth cheering. We even had had honest dependability and character in the team - Richard Naylor, Andrew Hughes and even Paul Butler. We were in the lower divisions but there usually something to cheer about. Who apart from perhaps Botaka do you get remotely excited about when they get the ball in the hope something special might happen. We talk about out 'talented' team but when did any of them deserve to be cheered on like 'Luciano' or 'Jermaine Beckford'. Barardi seems honest and dependable and Botaka has potential who else looks like they can raise the bar and excite? Cook maybe and that's it.
We can't really get after the manager anymore. because we haven't got a 'boss' just temporary coaches. Wise and Poyet, Grayson etc they were seen to be in charge and it was news when they went now its the norm. How can these coaches be expected to get the players going when, if they don't like being pushed, they know the coach will be gone if they don't perform. It's not them that takes the flak. The whole situation is poor. The players must also know, particularly the youngsters, that people they they respect and admire have gone in poor circumstances. Redfearn, Lucy Ward and the others claiming unfair dismissal. This can't can't make for a happy team or club despite what Steve Evans said after the game. No light at the end of the tunnel yet.

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30 Oct 2015 08:46:59
Don't know where to begin
A Leeds fan of 40+ years and I am struggling to think of a more inept performance, being positive there probably was one.

Very few positives other than Berradi who actually looked a very good championship player, Dallas tried but the quality of the final ball was woeful. The rest?

I believed that the preparations in the summer, beginning with MC appointing Pearson looked promising and to be honest it did not look so bad until he left the club.

I think the club has a serious underlying problem, find out why Pearson left and we will be closer to the root problem. On field activities are poor but resolvable off field problems persist and with 3 more court cases pending MC needs to either install revolving doors at Elland Road or find a buyer

I left really disappointed once. again last night and have finally reached breaking point. I will not be putting myself through this pain again until something changes.

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30 Oct 2015 08:32:24
Went last night took my son and my grandson.
anything to smile about, nothing the only positive is us the Leeds supporters we still follow our team. One thing I think we will have to stick with the manager we can't keep changing managers every few months the players don't have a clue, will be off on Tuesday night and then on the Saturday only because we have the tickets don't think I have felt this way about leeds ever even back in the 80's.

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30 oct 2015 07:57:33
mc is finding this very taxing . so bamba heads across area byram right behind him and they say thank you very much player unmarked goal. so coach low profile crawley rotherham . does in take traing join in no a bit over weight . play higher and up tempo . says about young striker and sloth look aroung onwher to be seen . same team . players knocked of the ball like a feather . shocking is an unstatement . just when i thinks it can't get any worse it does . dalllas well hasn't done a thing since day one buckley no one as seen him. erwin not seen sloth not seen phillips not seen . one step forward four steps back . two wins in fourteen . doukara well good evans sorry goodbye evans . well we might get a run in fa cup if were lucky but otherwise season gone . great club knobs in charge . get a knowledgeable coach yes it costs but then we might get results . same old same old.

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30 Oct 2015 07:56:15
I am not worried about the turn over of staff, providing the new ones are better than those going out the exit door. However can anyone see any improvement since Redfern and Thompson went, for all Mr Cellino's business acumen all I can see from these changes are costs. Player wise we could do the same, Smith gone Woods in, Lees gone Cooper in. No improvement in quality just added costs.
Redfern could motivate his kids, and that raised the rest of the team, I have seen no evidence of commitment since his departure.
Can you imagine Mr Evans problems this morning, how will the players respond when they have probably concluded he will be gone anyway next week.
I do believe we're F., ED.

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30 Oct 2015 07:51:16
Well, speechless, don't have the words to describe that performance or my emotions about it. Any more of this and I will be booking my ticket to Switzerland.

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30 Oct 2015 07:38:28
My health and general morale is plummeting as for the last many years I am optimistic and then depressed as reality sets in. When depressed I eat bad food and drink too much. My mental health is off the scale. Doctor asked me "are you a Leeds fan? " and then had a laugh! The tiniest glimmer of hope explodes the following week into full blown despair. The emotional rollercoaster has seen me age 20 years in the last ten. I am arguing with my work colleagues over the smallest thing. Even though I am not from Yorkshire, I sure as hell act like a doom and gloom Yorkie. I spend too much time and effort trying to listen to the matches or get internet updates while at sea only to every week think the internet or results service is playing a trick on me. League 1 here we come. I can not believe this car crash of a decade. "Leeds till I die" . well at this rate, I will only be Leeds for a little longer. The life and sparkle in my eyes and the spring in my step has gone. A zombie has more spirit than me. Why Leeds?

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30 Oct 2015 07:14:31
Stability is the key and following some of the amateur dramatics last night then we need to get some fresh blood in - I don't think asking MC to sell will help - he won't! We need to stand united and get behind what's left - stand strong and hope that our loan players of the right quality can be brought in to bolster the squad - we have some good players and I could see the frustration on some of their faces last night. I am not making excuses but we need to turn this around and any negatives to add to the current atmosphere cannot help - I want my club back and I want to be proud to be Leeds - I know it's tough but we can do it - let's pull together and try and be positive - as tough as it is. MOT.

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30 Oct 2015 00:27:24
Well I was working late tonight so followed the game on a betting app on my phone. thought it was broken, 6 mins in and 0-2 down, I actually thought my phone or app was broken.
That is it for me now, I will not be putting one penny more in to my beloved Leeds until that fruit cake of an owner either sells up or does a complete 180 and turns things around.
Enough is enough.

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30 Oct 2015 00:01:28
Call me crazy, but I honestly believe if you put the starting XI in another team's shirt, they would be challenging near the top of the league. Why is it that players can't perform for Leeds but they can do it elsewhere?

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30 Oct 2015 09:29:04
Because no other club has the expectations of Leeds United! I don't care what anyone says, Leeds are THE biggest club outside the prem, end of! Even bigger than half the teams in the prem! Biggest fan base in the championship, with the most loyal fans! And simply our players can't deal with! Mentally not strong enough! Why do England never win the World Cup? Because of the expectations!

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29 Oct 2015 23:32:29
What on earth have we come to. Could not believe what utter rubbish I was watching. Never felt as awful as that.
Anyone else noticed before kick off how wood was chatting and joking with the opposition before KO? Clearly his mind was not on the job, Did he really cost £3 mill?

Wood has got to be one of the worst strikers and one of the biggest wastes of money to pull on a leeds shirt and let's face it he's up against some stiff competition. I have never seen such a spineless performance from player such as that. He NEVER wins headers, Never fights for anything, clueless off the ball, completely static in attack all the time. he is so easily bullied and harassed off the ball, he is a centre backs dream striker, like shelling peas defending against him.
That was the laziest, the most gutless performance I have ever seen a leeds team put in.

Don't know who cellino thinks will come in after he
decides to sack evans (after the inevitable loss tues night)
No manager will touch us with a stick following this lot.
We are a complete laughing stock, we look like real relegation candidates on that performance, can't see where the win is coming from.

Very depressed.

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