Leeds Banter Archive October 03 2012

 

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03 Oct 2012 20:04:40
Ive just read on PFC site (being generally nosey trying to dig out what i can of this takeover as it seems to have disappeared from view again) and a post written on 02.10.12 someones put Bates is sniffing round PFC ( yes i know old news and all that) and its due to be when he flogs LUFC.
Ed ? Shed any light ? {Ed013's Note - I doubt it, retirement is a must}

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03 Oct 2012 15:36:57
Can everyone please stop this debate about Grayson/Warnock. Grayson is in the past so can we please leave him there. I was disappointed when he got the sack, as i thought he had a lot more to offer and had Leeds in his heart, but we move on. All that matters now is that Warnock is in charge of our beloved Leeds. So please stop all the stats etc as they are irrelevant, things change, teams change. The Bristol we beat this year is different to teh Bristol of last year etc. My moan is over. So bring on Barnsley for redemption from last year, and let us go into the international break on a high and hopefully in a play-off place!

L3EDS

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03 Oct 2012 15:18:00
I see risdale banned for 7 1/2 years from running a company for pocketing company money tut tut risdale

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About time

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About time

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03 Oct 2012 14:28:53
"Former Cardiff City chairman Peter Ridsdale has been disqualified from acting as a company director for seven and a half years after an investigation into financial irregularities concerning payments made to him by the club.

The company investigations team of the UK Government's Insolvency Service discovered that nearly £350,000 which should have been paid to a company called WH Sports Group (WHSG) was in fact paid into personal bank accounts in Mr Ridsdale's name."

He loves living the dream old Peter does. But at least what happened at Leeds wasn't his fault!!

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03 Oct 2012 12:44:28
Seen that diouf story online about getting offered a new deal has got me slightly worried. His agents quotes saying this could be his last contract so it has to be right sounds to me like his pay demands or should I say his agents could b out of our league! And isn't his agent one of the more (being very polite here) slimey of ones with lots of mercenaries? I hope I'm so wide of the mark with this thought

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It may not be about the money it may be the length of the contract he is concerned with, if it is his last i have no doubt he wants it to be longer than a year.

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My post wasn't in anyway a dig a diouf it was aimed at his agent, I think the guy is class and hope he stays as I've always been pleased to have him with us I'm just worried that now the vultures are flying the agent will asked for stupid amounts. If it was Warnock and diouf doing the deal I could see him signing 18mnths in about five mins its just that agent I'm sure he's one of the slimey ones we hear about but like I said hope I'm wrong

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Diouf and his agent obviously want a bigger pay deal and I think we will have to go to 15k a week to keep him. That's treble what he's on. I'm sure his agent will be fielding offers double that but I truly believe he wants to stay at Leeds. Timing of EHD being captain is noteworthy my opinion. Bolton may have been a former club but I expect him to keep the armband not only because he probably makes a better cap than Peltier but it's a little message NW is sending both to Bates and to Haigh. Message reads. We need to keep this guy beyond Xmas and I'm making him captain so that if we don't keep him I can leave with my head held high (NW) because then you got rid of my captain. I hope we give him the contract he and his agents wants but we already know we can't compete with PL salaries. I think he'll stay. Especially if we are still in the League Cup. {Ed013's Note - Diouf has already said it isn't about money. He was on 2 grand a week at Donny, he just wants security of a longer deal}

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To Ed13, I accept EHD wants a longer deal but trust me it's also about money. The agent will emphasize his client's great on field performances and demand a more appropriate wage. If you think otherwise wake up. Thumbs up to EHD for accepting a low wage his attitude and his performances but now he's shown his worth he will want to make more money. I believe 15k a week for 18 months will keep him at ER. {Ed013's Note - Of course he would accept money, but in the words of Neil Warnock "it's not about money for him" he wants to settle down somewhere and have security at his age. He went nearly a full pre-season with no offers from other clubs, so this is just his agent stirring up things}

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Dioufs agent is very clever and very devious.you cant blame them for throwing a spanner in the works when he has started off so well and yes he will need a rise and longer contract to stay beyond jan.i expect he will get this but not at all costs.i expect there are no prem clubs at all for him.every agent makes this up to get the best deal.he will stay and get better terms but not silly money...shrew leeds

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03 Oct 2012 12:28:39
just read el hadje diouf's agents comments on news now. Please read it like i have and tell me he's not leaving in january.His last comment was my client's contract will be his last and has to be right. Plus premiership clubs have enquired about his availability in januart. goodbye diouf .

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My clients contract will be his last....this means diouf intends to see out his career with Leeds....IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE

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03 Oct 2012 12:00:42
"Just a quick question and I apologise in advance but....
Where are all you 'graysons better than warnock' clowns gone
Very fickle people
Hopefully you have gone away and stay away
Good riddance
Russ"

Last season under Grayson in league P4 D2 L3
This Season under Warnock in league P4 D2 L3

I'm sorry but I was never Graysons biggest fan but having said that statistics don't lie. I think you jumped the gun a bit early there lad.

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Still think grayson is as good a manager as warnock and he plays better football than warnock when we get promoted we will come straight back down with him without heavy investment his football doesnt fly in prem and why bring this rubbish up wen everyones seems to be united at the moment your trying ta stir sh**e grow up BrianMOT

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How can you draw 3 and lose 2 when you've played 4?

Think I lie down now

fatfreddyscat

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01/02 - D O'Leary - W5 D3 L0 -18 points
02/03 - T Venables - W4 D0 L0- 12 points
03/04 - P Reid - W2 D2 L4 - 8 points
04/05 - K Blackwell - W3 D3 L2-12 points
05/06 - K Blackwell - W4 D2 L2-14 points
06/07 - KB/Various - W2 D1 L5 -5 points
07/08 - D Wise - W7 D1 L0 - 24 points
08/09 - D Wise - W5 D2 L1 - 17 points
09/10 - S Grayson - W7 D1 L0 - 24points
10/11 - S Grayson - W4 D2 L2 - 14points

There you go, in your words 'statistics dont lie'... Dennis Wise and Simon Grayson are the best managers we have had in the past 10 years.... the thing is statistics might not lie, but how is to say that SG could have got these points that Warnock has against different teams? Just leave past managers and players in the past and concentrate and the present and future! Now i have wasting an hour getting this info i had better get back to work before my boss starts questioning what i have been up to this afternoon!

L3EDS {Ed013's Note - You cannot say that, each game is different in each league. Dennis Wise was terrible once Poyet left!}

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Sorry ed... that was my point but got teh words messed up! i was trying to say that just because the statistics say it doesnt mean it is true. {Ed013's Note - ok mate, no worries, I wasn't sure}

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Well if stats don't lie then surely it means that warnock is the best manager we had since revie due to what he has won or do the stats only count when your trying to climb inside graysons ass
I think I prefer the warnock style if it gets results which he has proved and his contract ends this season anyway so maybe won't stay with us after he gets us up
By the way
What is so wrong about his style of play
Russ

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Stats don't lie check Warnocks win percentage as a Leeds manager.

Warnock our best manager since Revie!! Shame on you, I hope Howard doesn't read this website.

There's nothing wrong with Warnocks style of play it's all a matter of opinion and personally I'm not a fan of his style but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it he's had plenty of success with it throughout his career and also plenty of failures.

I hope I'm completely wrong and we get promoted under Warnock and will gladly hold my hands up and say I was wrong but if we do get promoted then I know this is harsh on Warnock but we need to not renew his contract because he's definitely not Premiership material.

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I'm saying is if we're gonna go on stats then where do you draw the line
Warnock has won more than any other manager we had since revie
My point was ,as you point out, by pulling up stats is ridiculous and proves nothing
Football is all about opinions
Just saying mine is that Grayson is an average manager and warnock is a good manager AT THIS LEVEL which is all that matters cos that's the level were at
Russ

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Fair comment but to say Warnock is a good manager at this level when he's been managing for over 30 years and has 6 football league promotions (only 2 to the Premiership) and then to say Grayson is an average manager at this level is very harsh considering he's been managing for 6 or 7 years and has already achieved 3 promotions (0 to Premiership).

I'm not trying to belittle Warnock by using stats against him but when voicing an opinion you have to show some sort of evidence to back up statements.

Overall my opinion is by the end of the year Grayson will finish higher than Warncok but I pray to god that doesn't happen.

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Maybe the fact that warnock has been in management for 30 years is testament enough
I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is and put £500 on Leeds finishing higher than Huddersfield so if anyone who thinks Grayson is better or Huddersfield better then its easy money for you
Russ {Ed020's Note - i would second that bet too.}

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03 Oct 2012 11:14:50
Im not sure NW will sign anyone until January. Diuf playing well up front and with green back after the international break he can play on the wing. Bryam can play right wing as well plus tonge can play left wing leaving aidy wight to play on the right like pre-season.

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Well judging tonge is on loan til January and NW has said he wants to sign a few other icing on the cakes and hasn't managed to....I think your wrong!

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03 Oct 2012 11:12:31
Still conceding alot of goals this season,it would be nice if we won a game 1-0
Think we need a new defensive coach in
Lucas ? Matteo ?

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03 Oct 2012 09:12:20
We have to score to 3 to win most matches again this season. In my opinion our defence is no better than last .
Having only missed 1 game home and away this season i believe our weak link is our captain lee peltier.
agree or disagree.

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He didn't play last night, so how do you get that? our weak link is an inexperienced centre half partnership, but they will grow into it with the right coaching.

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Sorry, my bad, he did. having only listened to Bates Radio commentary i don't remember hearing his name once, thought Byram was Right Back. so yeh you could be right.

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03 Oct 2012 08:59:44
If anyone can get a confirmed picture of John Fitz on the Sightings page, I will get the train up to Leeds and buy the beers for the day for the lucky snapper!

LR, Northants

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I can get a picture of fitzy hes my nephew when u coming up look forward to it

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03 Oct 2012 08:20:51
anyone noticed takeover gone very quiate. what is going on.

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02 Oct 2012 22:59:38
Really pleased with tonight's result. Bolton have got some real quality, eagles petrov etc. they will get better and we've got them out of the way with a good point. The lads are doing us proud.

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I thought we would have struggled against the three relegated teams having them so close to the start of the season. Taking 5 points off them and being a goal up against all three with 15 to go is a tremendous effort. Great job by the boys and NW. He has really got a good team and a happy team put together....even though I thing a good cup run would be detrimental to the fitness of the squad, the benefits in moral must outweigh this.

The takeover is to me, the icing on the cake, as I believe we have the team to get promoted once the walking wounded are back.

Fredh MOT In Warnock we trust

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02 Oct 2012 22:41:07
sunderland trying to offload connor wickham and frazier campbell and matt kill gallion

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Yep...They have all been spotted at t/a by john"oracle"fitz!KEA

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