Leeds Banter Archive February 04 2018

04 Feb 2018 22:57:19
Yeah. Just got up to the news. Nice man tc gone. Radz grows some! Right. Get right man in. ? And let's stick it up em! Not larry or mclaren.

05 Feb 2018 01:55:13
Hi Aus. Good news to accompany your breakfast.

04 Feb 2018 22:53:23
Bets on McLaren suspended the merry go round continues Orta still in charge of recruiting dear oh dear Leeds Are Falling Apart Again.

04 Feb 2018 22:41:04
Lots of names being linked with the Managers job, some good some bad, some posts on here say Larry, and although I like him I would say let’s leave the past where it belongs, he’s been there done it and has the Tshirt, no to Strachan and the rest of the ex Leeds linked, let’s have some foresight and let’s really use this as a lesson! I think Cook from Wigan, or Silva

04 Feb 2018 22:53:59
Would go for Silva, can't see him coming unless Orta goes. Also the number of player's new manager is stuck with on 4 year contract's. Good old Orta knows how to screw a club.

04 Feb 2018 22:24:12
No point sacking TC unless Orta goes as well, TC was cluelees in the end, Orta is the real problem.

04 Feb 2018 22:08:42
Please not Mc McLaren, get the right man in who knows the league inside out, with the right man all is not lost for this season! MOT

05 Feb 2018 03:02:37
Nigel Pearson

04 Feb 2018 21:51:05
TC gone then. If McLaren gets the job I'm off to support Donny Rovers! That's how much I rate him. In fact I would be embarrassed to have him coaching my beloved team.

04 Feb 2018 21:54:30
Have to agree Danum McLaren would make me vomit

04 Feb 2018 22:17:48
Conte will be available soon ;)

04 Feb 2018 23:10:28
so will Zidane

04 Feb 2018 21:49:57
Shame for TC but the right decision for sure. Shall we bring Larry back?

04 Feb 2018 22:18:35
He'd do for me . a contract till the end of the season and see where we end up

04 Feb 2018 21:49:35
TC gone hope we get the right man next

04 Feb 2018 22:19:24
I think we should start with who we DON'T want and see who we're left with

04 Feb 2018 19:55:56
Still think, with a few bits of good luck, our full first team is capable of the playoffs. It's the quality of the future that is the big question mark.

04 Feb 2018 19:23:38
Iam not yet in the Tc out camp but I am 100% in the Orta Out camp. Radz should shoulder some blame. What possesed him to recruit Orta in the first place. Did he not do due diligence and check his CV. Did he not look at social media, check the press or even speak to any professionals? Unfortunately it's got to the point now where it would be embarrasing, at this point, to say he made a mistake. In fact I can see him compounding his error by following the expected path of releasing TC which would not solve the problem. Orta would still be there and any manager worth his salt would not come to Elland Road if he could not pick his own team. No, the recruiting system has to change and the manger must have veto over any targets and then it goes without saying Otrta must Go.

04 Feb 2018 19:38:25
Sorry Leodis, orta has signed a four and half year contract!

04 Feb 2018 19:48:05
Agree with you 100% Leodis

04 Feb 2018 17:44:14
All Sit down with a cupper and injoy the nest five years your in for a long long ride.

04 Feb 2018 18:01:52
And the translation is : sit down with a cuppa and enjoy the next 5 years 😁

04 Feb 2018 20:42:43
Speedy you got it,

04 Feb 2018 16:40:35
People on about getting a new manager in like Pearson or Hughes. I doubt we could afford them and they would still have Orta to deal with. He is the problem. My mate plays for Boro and he said he's a lunatic. Charging into the dressing room to confront a coach who had criticized him on a match day. Steve Gibson soon found him out and got rid. I reckon TC is too soft, so its up to Radz to sack him. Orta out!

04 Feb 2018 17:42:17
thats the trick win and then both orta and fans will be happy, people don't like orta fair enough but that is no excuse for tactics and game plan at er. TC is doing enough damage with out orta

04 Feb 2018 18:12:20
Does anyone know where Orta lives? I'd like to watch him surrounded by Beeston's Most Wanted

04 Feb 2018 18:46:52
Orta rents one of those 1 bed flats just around the corner from me in Rodley. They're only about £80 pw and it overlooks the park. He's often seen peering out of his bedroom window trying to spot the ones for the future who play jumpers for goal posts.

04 Feb 2018 19:30:57
Surely not too British for him

04 Feb 2018 20:57:53
On my way to Rodley for recon 🕵️‍♀️

04 Feb 2018 22:04:28
are you sure he's not watching take their jumpers off? ;)

04 Feb 2018 15:41:28
Orta has been in charge of recruitment at Boro first and then Leeds for over 3 years now. At Leeds he has brought in one decent player in Saiz out of nearly 25. Add to this all the failures he recruited for Boro. Rough guess would be the best part of 35 to 40 players in total between both clubs. With a track record like this he should not be allowed near any football teams recruitment. This is really hard to believe and accept when you really think about it. What a shambles . Stop the Rot

04 Feb 2018 16:09:22
PA only one person to blame and that’s Radz himself, end off

04 Feb 2018 18:03:35
Maybe but the owners not going to go

04 Feb 2018 20:47:43
Speedy, I agree but the could do a deal Radz with Staveley investment team, and have Rafa in the deal,

04 Feb 2018 13:30:42
I thought AR was bringing in a more open, supporter incision style of ownership with him. Let's listen to the fans, He must know we are not amused! Or his head is stuck up a dark faecal crevice Manager who has championship knowledge and experience with good credentials. Good experienced championship players. Allow the manager to have say in player recruitment. It's not funny anymore!

04 Feb 2018 14:08:44
He's a very naughty boy !

04 Feb 2018 14:14:12
Problem is he believes in a different system. Don't think he will sack TC either

04 Feb 2018 14:29:08
IBiko so did many others, he cut from the same cloth as all the others and it not going to change any time soon, so you will have to buy in to his plan sorry mate.

04 Feb 2018 14:24:17
Joking aside I think AR has been a bit duped, he has trusted Orta etc to get on with things while he in all probability deals with the things he knows best. I meet people on a weekly basis who think there experts in my field of work and it always backfires when an issue comes upon them that they do not have the knowledge or skills to correctly deal with . I have said a number of times that I do not claim to be an expert on football, however I thought we just might mix are signings with a number of proven players . Just how poor are recruitment has been is highlighted by are Jan window, Angling injured Cooper suspended, no signings not even a loan .

04 Feb 2018 12:32:11
The inclusion of Sacko seemed to be a waste. As far as I can see the only weapon he has is his pace and unless he sits on the shoulder of a defender whose team is playing high up the pitch then his effect is negligable. I do not know but My guess is that the percentage of times he beats his defender, one on one, is low. Certainly for my money not one to answer any problems except who to put on the release list this summer

04 Feb 2018 12:54:44
They were all useless mate. Not just sacko!

04 Feb 2018 12:04:45
Pearson ahead of Hughes every day, don't forget where Hughes played!

04 Feb 2018 12:15:03
It doesn't matter who we replace TC with, we will still have the same problems while Victor Orta is allowed a free hand with recruitment. Any good team should allow the manager/ coach a decent input into players being brought it. It is clear from TC saying ask Victor, he has little or no input on such matters. Most coaches/ managers bring in a few they know or have worked with before, how many of the lot we got in did TC recommend? None would be my guess.

04 Feb 2018 12:59:53
Pearson or Hughes would be good choices both experienced in English football don't care where Hughes came from don't forget where Giles and Stachan came fom

04 Feb 2018 13:10:59
If we replace TC which doesn’t like it maybe to far away, Strachey would be my choice to replace TC MOT

04 Feb 2018 11:56:25
Like everyone else feeling deflated, but with us it seems if it could be a card it WILL be a card. Have seen a lot worse than Beradi and Cooper's tackles go unpunished.

04 Feb 2018 11:44:38
Good morning fellow ĺeeds supporters, we now need to forget about promotion this is not going to happen. We need to get in a championship proven manager who has the balls to sell and buy the players he wants, this manager is needed asap so he can work with the player's his got at this time, and be ready to build his Saud for next season. The majority of players we have now are ok and bring some youngsters through, and buy 5 known championship players with gritty. goalkeeper 2 centre halts, playmakers, and 2 proven strikers. Then next year we will win promotion.

04 Feb 2018 12:02:39
Agree totally, also need some pace on the wings with a couple of players who can go past defenders

04 Feb 2018 12:05:10
can see your point but dissagree we should get plays off this year as we should of got play offs last year. look at the talent we have, look at the money we spend, look how good we are when we 'get going' we have a top 6 squad now time to get the manager in and get up the table, there are enough points to play for if we get a manager in who can win them. if we woke up today and it said leeds appoint carlo anticlotti we would all expect play offs with current squad now i know carlo won't come to us but it prove we can do it, and let's demand that we do.

04 Feb 2018 12:27:04
I wonder whether we will have enough players left to field for next couple of games with a number suspended and Pilot injured . It's a telling factor that Forshaw has received positive feedback that's because he has championship experience . Just look at the Cardiff set-up . Our player recruitment is as much to blame for what is happening at our club . As for TC time to go I'm afraid and please bring in someone with championship experience .

04 Feb 2018 12:54:21
Dogwise totally agree, recruitment of players not been good enough but more emphasis been put on recruiting for the future rather than addressing Problems with current Issues correctly.

04 Feb 2018 10:02:47
Looking at the Match reports yesterday both wolves and Cardiff both play 3 at back. Works for them Wonder after this terrible run is here any harm in perhaps a different formation. When everyone is fit and not suspended. I don't think we have the players to do it tho. In an ideal world I think ayling and dallas would make great wing backs with Philips foreshaw Okane/viera as 3 centre mids with saiz and lassoga up front or saiz and Tyler Roberts. I think one issue we have is we are playing Roofe hernandez and alioski at moment and leaving 2 centre mids v quite often 3. Think we need to go 3 centre mids and 3 centre backs.

04 Feb 2018 10:17:45
It’s worth a try because system now not working

04 Feb 2018 09:47:04
Jolly decent of Bamba to put one in for us, when he is not even on our payroll anymore. I hope that those who are, follow his lead. Aus, I like TC a lot, but I now concur with you, he needs to sod off.

04 Feb 2018 09:23:26
Have I just got back in time 15 years or something. can't understand for the life of me why some people are saying if TC goes replace with o'leary or Strachan? can't remember the last time o'leary even managed a football team. i'm Not sure if there is am argument for he has to be British, many non British managers do exceedingly well over here even in champ look wagner got hudderscum promoted looks like this nunes fella will take wolves up carvahal got wendies to play offs

04 Feb 2018 12:10:21
agree, don't get me wrong some british managers would be a great call, like pearson, hughes even maybe but oleary and strahan are both very poor managers. I don't care where they come from but do care if they are carp. There are so many great managers out there I think Martin Jol is also a decent shout, knows the country, good track record and think he just might come to us

04 Feb 2018 09:01:48
Get Mr Strachan in he knows what this clubs about and looking for a job MoT

04 Feb 2018 12:11:46
just a shame he is a usless manager, look at gary mac top player poor manager

04 Feb 2018 08:36:01
What's gone wrong ? Well I think it's pretty obvious ORTA I think TC is doing the best he can with what he's got ! He's playing players who VO has picked/signed ( the job of a foreign DOF ) it's exactly the same as what happened at Boro and there still reeling from it, if AR wants a DOF get VO out and get a a British one in I'd say Harry Redknapp who know the English game . IMO that's why Aitor Karanka never came to us in the summer he knew exactly what was going to happen with signings and how much say he would be given .

04 Feb 2018 08:45:01
Agree with a lot of that but certainly not harry 'spend all the clubs money 'rednapp

04 Feb 2018 08:59:36
I agree that Orta is a problem but on surely TC does not get a free pass because he doesn't sign the players ? Surely you are not saying that TC is doing a good job ?

04 Feb 2018 09:47:16
Some good points there, but not Redknapp, he would be like George Graham, first job available down South and he would be off like a shot.

04 Feb 2018 04:21:59
24 hours after. I just watched it. Gobsmacked. Thought TC would have been sacked by now. Really confused that he hasnt. Orta should go too but TC today. Cardiff were crap. And they thumped us. We looked like we had never played football before. No idea how to defend or attack. Unable to pass to team member. Not chasing loose balls. They just don't look like they know what they are doing. Its atrocious. Radz should have walked down to the dugout at final whistle and walked TC to the car park there and then. If he stays i fear relegation. The players don't want to play for him anymore. As for players today. Forshaw was good. Pennington was ok. Roofe worked hard. Beradi was unlucky as he won the ball in second tackle! The rest were rubbish. Wield still looks well dodgy. Viera was brilliant last year and begining of this season but today was awful.

04 Feb 2018 07:30:22
I thought roofe was really poor Aus. your right about the players not playing for tc

04 Feb 2018 07:38:22
He tried though. 100% of balls passed forward went to him. Not great technically but 100% effort.

04 Feb 2018 08:11:52
If that's the best he can do 'trying' then he's a mile off it. same with alioski, he tries, but he's useless, can't beat a man, can't cross, always on the floor. terrible signing

04 Feb 2018 09:05:41
Roofe was poor, should have been taken off ahead of Lasogga

04 Feb 2018 11:33:35
Aus Viera missed the start of season. First dozen or so I seem to remember:

04 Feb 2018 00:05:43
So if TC was to go who would Leeds fans want in? Larry, OLeary, Silva, Pearson, McClaren, Strachan, or anyone else? Personally someone British who buys his own players so Orta to go too for me!

04 Feb 2018 00:27:20
Get the Chief in! Radebe to take us up!

04 Feb 2018 07:11:45
A club like leeds should be able to attract a prem manager look in to prove a point bilic Clement de silva or dare i say hughes
If not look to the lower leagues
Cook at Wigan Alexander at scunny or Cowley at lincoln