Leeds Banter Archive November 05 2015

 

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05 Nov 2015 23:48:15
What happened with bridcut another day another kickup or what hoping for another 3pionts this weekend and hopefully a bit. Of a run get back in the top half.

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05 Nov 2015 19:27:26
I hope mr cellino stays. I agree with fredh. The guy saved our club. He backed rosler. he's eccentric impulsive and sometimes too quick to react to certain situations. Wish he could buy out the other 25% because he is used to been in total control. Its his money. If he can take leeds united forward I for one won't care how much profit he makes on his investment as he will deserve it. MOT.

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05 Nov 2015 19:41:02
Cellino has met with interested parties who want the club. Maybe these meeting have gone well and that's why he pulled the plug on LFU. Sounds like he want's out quickly.

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05 Nov 2015 20:13:01
Sorry Hunters I could not disagree more! Whilst I cannot deny that he saved us and has put money in, for whose benefit do you think?
He is a businessman and for all his badge kissing he is an investor and looks for a return. An entreprenour will buy a company, cut where necessary, add where necessary and sell when it's right. Now maybe we want to be kind to MC and say that he made have had visions his statue outside Elland Road but his bubble has burst and now he cannot wait to get rid. If he stays I can only see more heartbreak on both sides.
The man is a ticking timebomb with so much legal/FA baggage that his future is untenable. No Mr Cellino a big thank you but a bigger goodbye.

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05 Nov 2015 20:23:10
Deda

I think the reason Cellino pulled out is he saw through Thwaites and his undesirable character traits. There is no doubt he would've been terrible for Leeds. The first thing Cellino should've done was buyout GFH even if it meant handing them 50m. We may have seen a better MC.

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05 Nov 2015 21:54:50
George

Don't think Cellino ever had an intension of selling to them. He wanted other parties to get involved. Two people are interested and they won't take years to raise the funds.

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05 Nov 2015 22:18:49
If they had the money he would have sold. He knew they did not and was just showing what a load of blowhards they are. Chanting for him out and for fans to take over, he gave them the chance and all Thwaites wanted to do was turn it into a fight with media backing, so glad he blew them out.

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05 Nov 2015 23:08:03
Agree bige.

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06 Nov 2015 10:55:56
I think Mr Cellinio does know what he is doing he is a very good businessman, probably waiting to see what the corrupt football league
decide what to do. I think who ever buys Leeds the football league will find something wrong, the guy didn't pay his VAT and most business people do the same thing. If he does sell the club it needs to be to someone who has the money a football knowledge.

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05 Nov 2015 18:56:09
Told you they were all bluffing did they really think Cellino would sell to the likes of them love him or hate him he got business clout and has put his money where his mouth is more than some we could mention as I keep saying careful what you wish for! I for one dnt like his running of our beloved club BUT he has put his money up and saved our club so for time being until we get credible owners let's get behind him and team?

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05 Nov 2015 18:45:20
It goes back to years ago when gypsys were told to sling there hook by revie and one particular gypsy cursed him and said " you will never win a major trophy here "! And since then every one has tried to lift the curse and failed I was there in in Paris I couldn't believe it till that day!

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05 Nov 2015 18:25:19
All this ridiculing of Cellino for having the pitch blessed, what us older Leeds fans know is that he is not the first to have a go at lifting a curse on ER the great Don Revie got the gypsies in to do the same.

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05 Nov 2015 19:05:48
Could it be written into the sale contract, that the Pope wanted ER blessing, before the Vatican bought the club off MC? By all accounts they are loaded?

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05 Nov 2015 19:48:32
If he believes then it won't do no harm. Once again he gets ridiculed for doing something positive. Wonder if the media would be as sarcastic if he had got the pope to do it.

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05 Nov 2015 20:12:20
I know what the gypsies told him to do as well. It kinda takes the anagram of another word for gently imbibing. Lol.

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05 Nov 2015 18:20:02
All this ridiculing of Cellino for having the pitch blessed.

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05 Nov 2015 17:18:49
Something different.
Anyone else going to the Yeboah event next Saturday at the pavilion.?

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05 Nov 2015 10:43:38
I've just read on Newsnow that Michael Green (chairman of LUST) wants us to show our disgust at pulling out of deal with Dylan Thwaites ( the new Alan Sugar NOT )

What is it with people like him when they think they have some kind of power, I wrote to him personally.

FAO Michael Green



Just read online that you wish people to send a message to Cellino for pulling out of deal with Leeds Fans United. Whilst I am sure your intentions are good do you ever stop for one minute to think about why he may have pulled the plug on this deal.



Dylan Thwaites has been a director of 31 companies in his business life, 30 of these companies are now dissolved, out of business, the only one still in place is Leeds Fans United. Wonder what will happen to this company with him leading it? Do you not think for one minute they may have checked this guy out and realised that he is a charlatan. If we are going to have a business leader to promote this kind of buyout, this guy is not the one.



Whilst I agree that Cellino may not be the man to take us forward, this Thwaites character is certainly not either. Why don't you urge fans to cheer on our team and not have some sideshow putting them off or making things worse. Do your protesting in some other form not before a match or when a match is on. I want my team to win.

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05 Nov 2015 12:37:21
It wouldn't be right for me not to show his response, actually comes across well I think.

Andy,




Thank you for your email.




Firstly what I said is clear, fans should make there voice heard, like they did at home to Blackburn and have done, without my prompting, on other occasions. That voice is to ensure Cellino, as shown by his actions from January 2014, recognises he is not fit to run our great club. I believe that is a now widely held opinion and one I am content it is right to express.




Secondly, Leeds Fans United can look after themselves, if you wish to question the competenceb or integrity of Dylan Thwaites or any other members of the LFU executive you should direct questions to them. The Trust has been clear, we are happy to work with any reputable group working towards fan ownership (that is a basic premise of the Trust) . We don't and won't endorse the LFU pay-in scheme, its for individual supporters to do the due diligence on that and make their own minds up (for the record I am not an investor, my wife would be less than pleased if I was) . However we can say that at all times we have found them professional and transparent, something that contrasts with the club over the last 15 years. As such, and given Cellino's conduct, I am again happy with my positon of smypathy towards LFU for the way this deal, enacted publically by Cellino himself, has fallen away.




Finally you will forgive me if as a regular attender of games over 35 years, as an existing season ticket holder who travels from South West London each home game and as someone who does this role as a vounteer, I indicate i'm content I know how to support my team and club and equally content with the judgements I make. All my public comments as Chair are predicated by the ethos and principals of the co-operative democratic society we are and consistent with the Trusts aims, values and principles.




Cheers




Michael Green - Chair.

Michael




Thank you for replying so promptly, whilst I do not wish to get into a ping pong email with you, I do have the right to reply to your response. I am in total agreement that Cellino is not the person to take us forward, whish I too am happy to express (at the right time) what I do disagree with is the timings of your vocal protest. I believe that when it comes to matchday, our total focus should be getting behind our team and cheering them on to win, especially in the current league position we are in. I do not believe it is healthy to enhance any off field issues before or whilst the match is on.




I am sure that we both want what's best for Leeds United and would agree on many things, but what I do not like is people, seemingly jumping on the Leeds Fans United bandwagon and dismissing Cellino's change of mind as insincerity and maybe not considering for one moment that they cannot fulfil any kind of financial commitment to this kind of buyout or the persons involved are actually inadequate to do so. I have taken my time to look at the people involved and do not believe that they are the right persons to take this forward, even though maybe there intentions are just.




Finally you will forgive me if as a regular attender of games over 35 years, who travels from Kettering Northants, that I do this for the love and best intentions of Leeds United and that I do not want our club to fall into the wrong hands AGAIN. I also know how to support my team positively on match days and one who believes in the power of mind and positive thoughts and actions and that negativity breeds negative responses and negative RESULTS (Blackburn Rovers) .


Cheers

Andy

Andy,




Happy to read your reply and happy to agree to differ. For me, speaking in a personal capacity, it has been the failure of the support to articulate itself coherantly that has lead us to a succession of incompetent owners.




I suspect, again speaking personally, there will be some interesting chanting Saturday and games until a sale is concluded but I don't believe for a minute it will have any effect on the teams ability to finish 13-16th for the 5th successive season.

Cheers


Michael

Michael




All I would say is be careful what you wish for. let's see what happens next


MOT

Andy,




The speed of change never surprises me at LUFC.




Best wishes.

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05 Nov 2015 12:39:52
Top letter. Please advise if you receive a response.

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05 Nov 2015 15:01:33
You work fast ket. Good exchange of emails. We can surely do better than Thwaites.

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05 Nov 2015 16:07:20
TYPICALLY ARROGANT. Why do people who gain a bit of responsibility seem to think its their job to lead others instead of work with them. Its not just the chanting that affects players its the uncertainty it brings. I go to elland road to cheer my team on, crap or not. How can they play good football in the atmosphere created by certain sections of the crowd.

I love Leeds United not Cellino but I will put up with him while he is investing in us. What he did in Italy does not interest me, its a sideshow, if he gets banned probably better for us. Evans looks half decent, team getting better. All I can see is improvement since he took over, not there but getting there.

LFU would have made us bankrupt in 18 months if they were going to borrow all the money, we would not have been able to sign anyone. FFP rules etc. Most of these people have an agenda and its not what's best for Leeds its just an outcome they want to happen. Cellino will sell I think but to some one with the money to buy us, so why chant till he goes, and if we get promoted while he is still here will they still be chanting.

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05 Nov 2015 15:53:37
love this I might write to him find a better chairman or do one. LUST never put leeds first and just stir Poo in our own club on our own door step. doing something good or do nothing or just go do one you pompus little muppet. wonder what my reply would be?

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05 Nov 2015 17:40:46
Good letter and good reply BIGE. It seems to me that Michael Green is every bit as unprofessional as Dylan Thwaites - no wonder Cellino won't deal with them. Even in his replies to Andy's email he has a few little back handed digs. No wonder Fruit Loop backed out and organising protests against a man who won't even be there to be hear them (and probably wouldn't give a stuff anyway) is going to be really effective, not!

MM.

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05 Nov 2015 09:18:21
Lets all be honest we will be better off without MC however he has put a few quid in the purse over the last few months but the only time things were anything like stable was when Adam Pearson was involved, all that's needed is some stability and the rest will follow, let's hope if and when MC sells the buyer completes proper due diligence and gets us back to something like a normal club who is in the news for football reasons and not for the benefit of someone's ego like MC.

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05 Nov 2015 10:19:13
Ego, no he's just mad! compared to the egos of publicity Pete and and radio bates.

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05 Nov 2015 10:23:26
think it is all realative we will only be better off with out MC if we get someone better and their is a lot worse. We would not be better with Bates, GFH or a load of leeds fans with no clue so no we might not be better off without MC, that said we would be better off with Roman abmovic or shek I got loads of money so it depends.

We can't really say it was only stable when adam pearson was here because he was only here for five minutes so not here long enough to make anything stable sadly, and the fact he left says a lot about what stablity he did/didnt bring.

I think a lot of leeds fans clung to pearson as a decent man (which I agree with) however he made no difference in reality

I hope we get a better chairman as it would mean we would improve but we have not had a better chairman since since 1996 when the lovable cockney left leeds. so recent (or no so recent) history would suggest we are lucky to have MC so I wish until we get a btter person in place we would back OUR MAN MC. because if he left we would be worse off than we are now. HOw many clubs would love a chairman who puts his own money in the club and loves the club even if he is far from perfect?

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05 Nov 2015 18:57:30
Well said bw!

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05 Nov 2015 21:27:37
Steve Gibson childhood fan of Boro became successful and put his money into the club.

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05 Nov 2015 08:23:01
Mornin siblings, a bit of good news, totally off topic but I can't help myself, my son Sam passed his first day at Lympstone yesterday and won a 3 mile run! Fingers crossed after 2 years of waiting and training he will get his boots come friday, yippeeeee, very proud.

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{Ed001's Note - congrats mate.}

05 Nov 2015 10:13:49
Nice one Vid junior.

MM.

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05 Nov 2015 10:24:06
well done to your son mate, hope all the family are proud.

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05 Nov 2015 11:22:38
Well done young vidi. Lympstone is no picnic, it sorts out real men.

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05 Nov 2015 11:32:13
You must be one proud man.

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05 Nov 2015 16:26:09
Thank you people, really appreciate your kind wishes. All he has wanted for the last 2 years is a chance and I have no doubt he will do himself proud and change his stars! No word yet today so I guess he is still hanging in there! I will update you tomorrow.

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05 Nov 2015 18:59:36
Good luck vid be proud day for you and your family.

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05 Nov 2015 03:20:40
Corkie, yes let's bury the hatchet. That's exactly what Ed's wife told me to do last weekend.

Apology accepted. We have a passionate love of Leeds and I'd rather mud wrestle something female speedyg.

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05 Nov 2015 10:03:04
You made an assumption Corkie is male Georgie?

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05 Nov 2015 12:41:51
I did Speedyg. It was a 50:50 shot. I'll take those odds. It's more obvious with someone like Liverlass.

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05 Nov 2015 01:05:25
Hello My Leeds Family!
I think we should sing 'MARCHING HOME TOGETHER' when we play Hudders!
LETS DO IT! We will defo get a win after that so we can all walk march home happily!

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05 Nov 2015 19:01:41
Long bloody walk mate! Anyone want a lift? lol.

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